Quote: (08-07-2014 02:49 AM)N°6 Wrote:
Quote: (07-27-2014 03:37 PM)HankRearden Wrote:
One of my best friends here is a great looking guy, has a great job, dresses well, speaks well, is actually just a genuinely good person, and has probably slept with under 10 women at age 23. He can't figure it out, and neither can I. I do know, however, that if he lived in Canada/America he would be over 25, with better looking girls, and have put in much less effort (so long as he keeps that ever-fawned after English accent of his).
I have noted this time after time in the UK: the man is often better looking than the woman in a couple. Moreover, I can tell an internet date as the man is often far better looking than the woman.
I don't think that there is a more female-friendly dating market than that of the UK. The signs are there which normally suggest a seller's market:
*female obesity,
*generally poor clothing,
*a better looking boyfriend
* a slimmer boyfriend,
*hostility to natural heterosexual male desires (in contrast to the numbers and weird and wonderful things that gay men are into - gay rights are to be defended),
*a demand that potential boyfriends have suitable political beliefs,
I would advise every young British man to travel before basing his confidence on the British market or the validation of English women.
When I advertise a spare room, I subtly disqualify English women from moving in. I find them to be the least house proud women I have ever met. Italian, French and Spanish women have the place looking spotless while English women rarely clean up after themselves never mind doing the odd general house clean. They can't cook and a female Italian housemate remarks how often British men cook for British women and that would never happen to Italy. I replied that British men have no choice other than going out to eat.
The UK dating market it just like its domestic property market. It favours the seller. The value of the seller's asset increases regardless if he has invested anything into the repair and upkeep of his property. The UK housing stock is the worst maintained, most expensive and poorly constructed in all of Europe - just like its women.
^ Bullseye - it's absolutely spot on as a description of the UK dating market experience for men. I used to live in Germany but returned to the UK in 2013 and am still suffering from a state of disorientation from the realization of how out of whack the dating dynamics are here for men in the UK. So many guys, especially if they are average-looking, have to date down - way down - just to secure a girlfriend, it's hard to take in at times.
In addition to the list of factors that the OP gave as indications of a seller's market for women, I would add the following:
* An extreme aversion to being approached by members of the opposite sex, which assumes the form of studiously avoiding eye contact at all times, aided by the use of smartphones to blank out any sense of their surroundings. Furthermore, any attempt at contact with them is likely to be met with a sense of reproachful suspicion verging on paranoia that will leave the male "offender" feeling like he has committed a grave violation of the woman's space simply by accosting her. Indeed, I would go so far as to assert that merely looking at a half-way attractive woman in the UK will elicit such a reaction more often than not.
* A pronouncedly narcissistic and stuck-up obnoxious personality, fully devoid of any vestige of classical femininity or even basic humanity with many of them. Their overtly haughty manner is also openly contemptuous to the gaze any of male who she would deem to be not worthy of viewing her - the walking with the nose perched in the clouds, the quick flick of the head to side on the pavement when a male approaches, et.c.
* Epic levels of male thirst comparable with the situation in Australia, US, Canada and the other Anglo hellholes for men. Forget night game, even when running social circle game I find that even the most unattractive females - i.e. hambeasts - all have boyfriends/husbands, with the sole single female in the group either having an visceral aversion to men (i.e., single by choice) or suffering from a personality disorder (of which there are many in the UK in my experience). Naturally, the number of excess males in the groups is obvious - guys who often work out at the gym, earn decently and who are pro-active in seeking out female company, yet they all go home alone to the comfort of nothing but porn and their right hand. I've witnessed this too many times, in too many different social scenarios to be in any doubt.
But it's hard to really digest on an emotional level, whatever my intellect and sense are repeatedly telling me. Living in the UK, outside of London, feels like I'm living inside a dating prison.