I have been back in London since early June. Despite being born and raised here, I only started learning game a couple years back. Which meant that I had to experience what the city was like from a picking up perspective.
This is not really a data sheet just a summary of my thoughts on the city.
- Money & Location, London is divided up into zones, the higher the number, the further away you are living. If you are living in anywhere past zone 3, you are going to have a harder challenge bringing women back. taxis are expensive, night buses are full of degenerates and the tube (Metro) closes around midnight to one.
Which plays into the next point, money is very important. The best looking girls will usually go to the most expensive clubs, exceptions to this may be special ethnic nights around the city, I.e. a Brazilian night in some chain bar.
The nature of the city on the most part, is that poor and rich people live side by side, meaning that plenty of rich guys will have that advantage over you if you are average, in terms of logistics, social standing. Its extreme but I know some businessmen, simply name a price for the girl and increase it until she says yes.
Belonging to a niche, music scene, day game, student social scene, going through a social group, or having a lot of money, will defiantly be a better shot.
- The Women
English women are really something else, yesterday this creature walking around barefoot at 2 in the morning, groped my arse and then proceeded to taunt every man down the street, if they were going to be "man enough to fuck her". Biologically being a male its just not in my genes to know how to deal with such women, hell I think my ancestors would have freaked out.
I started chatting to this "attractive" english women on the bus, turned out she was into weight lifting and a feminist. In all my travels, British women are an all time low, really you can't comprehend how bad they are. The best looking english girls you will find come from the the country side, preferably the home counties. Many of them go down hill quickly though, after the binge and cock fest which is the higher education system in Britain.
However London is full of foreigners, and the big positive of that, is that you have many different types of women to chose from. If you go to the right bar or pub you can find different nationalities. Even if they are "westernised" you will find it a lot more easy to get on with them and they do flake a lot less.
Flaking is a big issue next to logistics, due to settling for number closes as its hard to get a girl you just met in club back to your place in a completely different part on a night bus full of drunks and skagheads.
Places to go out)
Mayfair/Knightsbridge: This is the most expensive part of the city, where you will find the Russian/Arab Millionaires. Assuming you have a high income, you will be able to find the best looking girls here, models, socialites, wags etc. Entry for these sorts of clubs and bars are sometimes exclusive, so it depends on who you know, or if you are willing to pay high entrance fees. These are good locations to do networking for business etc, if your game is feeling tight. This is the creme de la creme.
Shoreditch/Hoxton: This area is like the Williamsburg of London, it used to be a dive a decade or two back but now it is buzzing. Lots of small bars, and underground clubs, again in terms of pricing its expensive. You will find good looking hipster girls around, some essex girls and foreign students. For some reason there are always Spanish and Italians there. I can't talk much about the location because i've only been there a few times, but this is the impression I get. There is a lot of potential to do "street game" there if you are around the main square.
Leicester Square/West End: This is a real cattle market, a lot of tourists will be around here, there is a hierarchy of clubs. You have Tiger Tiger, which is just a complete cattle market, tourist girls, Indian tourist men, african immigrants from inner London and lots of hen parties. If you try hard enough you will be able to pull but its jam packed all the time.
Piccadilly Institute is the same as this, but a bit better club in my opinion.
The top end clubs are like Distrik, Cafe De Paris apparently fits into this. They require guest lists but the girls who turn up are a lot better looking. I wouldn't even bother with the other ones you have dotted around, which you will be bombarded with promoters for.
Inner London)
Camden, Brixton, Peckham, Clapham. These sort of places will all have bars and pubs, catering for different music scenes and sub cultures. Back in the day I used to go to raves around these areas before they were gentrified, good times for being a teenage boy . But they are very different now, high end. You will find better than average looking girls in these parts, as there are a lot of international students and middle class women from overseas who are working in the big city. Be warned there are a lot of disgusting feminists around however.
Suburbs
Croydon, Kingston, Bromley, Romford, Sidcup, if you want to find English girls then go to these territories. These towns are where all the native Londoners and cockneys moved out to. London has sprawling suburbs, so you will have to book into a travel lodge nearby, they will have a fair number of pubs and bars, along with the chain clubs like "Tiger Tiger". There will be good looking english girls there, as these locations verge on to the territories of the home counties. But it will be rough at the same time. Especially Croydon, a lot of fights around midnight to 2am in the morning. I would personally avoid.
Pros
- Foreign women are all around, so you don't have to rely on the natives.
There will be British Indians/Pakistanis too, East Asian chicks all around and not fogetting big booty black chicks in the West End, without having to go to the centre. Rumba is a good club for this, although its terrible for everything else.
- Its a cool city to be in, you can really carve your own individual niche here, there are plenty of spots to do this. If you like Salsa then you can find a salsa place, if you like blues then you can go to the blues place, etc. These places in general will have more interesting people as well.
Cons
- Hypergamy is crazy here, if you are an average guy, you will just sink here. It's necessarily to have some form of game, however if you can do well here, I'm sure you can do well anywhere in the world.
- Expensive, for what you are getting the prices are very high, however if you are running your own business, it won't be a problem.
-Women, aside from the foreigners who reside around the centre, it is really a wasteland. Especially in the suburbs, for the amount of guys who go to the gym, work out and have good jobs, compared to the amount of women who are attractive, let alone have some good characteristics, it can be pretty depressing.
Conclusion
I am probably desensitised to the city because I have lived here for a big chunk of my life and now have been living abroad in the last year. But I think its really overrated. In terms of women, if you have good game and decent logistics you will be fine and be able to make the most of it.
But personally for myself I am just looking forward to moving back out to the East, where I don't have to jump through hoops for some average looking chick who has more testosterone than me.
Cheers
This is not really a data sheet just a summary of my thoughts on the city.
- Money & Location, London is divided up into zones, the higher the number, the further away you are living. If you are living in anywhere past zone 3, you are going to have a harder challenge bringing women back. taxis are expensive, night buses are full of degenerates and the tube (Metro) closes around midnight to one.
Which plays into the next point, money is very important. The best looking girls will usually go to the most expensive clubs, exceptions to this may be special ethnic nights around the city, I.e. a Brazilian night in some chain bar.
The nature of the city on the most part, is that poor and rich people live side by side, meaning that plenty of rich guys will have that advantage over you if you are average, in terms of logistics, social standing. Its extreme but I know some businessmen, simply name a price for the girl and increase it until she says yes.
Belonging to a niche, music scene, day game, student social scene, going through a social group, or having a lot of money, will defiantly be a better shot.
- The Women
English women are really something else, yesterday this creature walking around barefoot at 2 in the morning, groped my arse and then proceeded to taunt every man down the street, if they were going to be "man enough to fuck her". Biologically being a male its just not in my genes to know how to deal with such women, hell I think my ancestors would have freaked out.
I started chatting to this "attractive" english women on the bus, turned out she was into weight lifting and a feminist. In all my travels, British women are an all time low, really you can't comprehend how bad they are. The best looking english girls you will find come from the the country side, preferably the home counties. Many of them go down hill quickly though, after the binge and cock fest which is the higher education system in Britain.
However London is full of foreigners, and the big positive of that, is that you have many different types of women to chose from. If you go to the right bar or pub you can find different nationalities. Even if they are "westernised" you will find it a lot more easy to get on with them and they do flake a lot less.
Flaking is a big issue next to logistics, due to settling for number closes as its hard to get a girl you just met in club back to your place in a completely different part on a night bus full of drunks and skagheads.
Places to go out)
Mayfair/Knightsbridge: This is the most expensive part of the city, where you will find the Russian/Arab Millionaires. Assuming you have a high income, you will be able to find the best looking girls here, models, socialites, wags etc. Entry for these sorts of clubs and bars are sometimes exclusive, so it depends on who you know, or if you are willing to pay high entrance fees. These are good locations to do networking for business etc, if your game is feeling tight. This is the creme de la creme.
Shoreditch/Hoxton: This area is like the Williamsburg of London, it used to be a dive a decade or two back but now it is buzzing. Lots of small bars, and underground clubs, again in terms of pricing its expensive. You will find good looking hipster girls around, some essex girls and foreign students. For some reason there are always Spanish and Italians there. I can't talk much about the location because i've only been there a few times, but this is the impression I get. There is a lot of potential to do "street game" there if you are around the main square.
Leicester Square/West End: This is a real cattle market, a lot of tourists will be around here, there is a hierarchy of clubs. You have Tiger Tiger, which is just a complete cattle market, tourist girls, Indian tourist men, african immigrants from inner London and lots of hen parties. If you try hard enough you will be able to pull but its jam packed all the time.
Piccadilly Institute is the same as this, but a bit better club in my opinion.
The top end clubs are like Distrik, Cafe De Paris apparently fits into this. They require guest lists but the girls who turn up are a lot better looking. I wouldn't even bother with the other ones you have dotted around, which you will be bombarded with promoters for.
Inner London)
Camden, Brixton, Peckham, Clapham. These sort of places will all have bars and pubs, catering for different music scenes and sub cultures. Back in the day I used to go to raves around these areas before they were gentrified, good times for being a teenage boy . But they are very different now, high end. You will find better than average looking girls in these parts, as there are a lot of international students and middle class women from overseas who are working in the big city. Be warned there are a lot of disgusting feminists around however.
Suburbs
Croydon, Kingston, Bromley, Romford, Sidcup, if you want to find English girls then go to these territories. These towns are where all the native Londoners and cockneys moved out to. London has sprawling suburbs, so you will have to book into a travel lodge nearby, they will have a fair number of pubs and bars, along with the chain clubs like "Tiger Tiger". There will be good looking english girls there, as these locations verge on to the territories of the home counties. But it will be rough at the same time. Especially Croydon, a lot of fights around midnight to 2am in the morning. I would personally avoid.
Pros
- Foreign women are all around, so you don't have to rely on the natives.
There will be British Indians/Pakistanis too, East Asian chicks all around and not fogetting big booty black chicks in the West End, without having to go to the centre. Rumba is a good club for this, although its terrible for everything else.
- Its a cool city to be in, you can really carve your own individual niche here, there are plenty of spots to do this. If you like Salsa then you can find a salsa place, if you like blues then you can go to the blues place, etc. These places in general will have more interesting people as well.
Cons
- Hypergamy is crazy here, if you are an average guy, you will just sink here. It's necessarily to have some form of game, however if you can do well here, I'm sure you can do well anywhere in the world.
- Expensive, for what you are getting the prices are very high, however if you are running your own business, it won't be a problem.
-Women, aside from the foreigners who reside around the centre, it is really a wasteland. Especially in the suburbs, for the amount of guys who go to the gym, work out and have good jobs, compared to the amount of women who are attractive, let alone have some good characteristics, it can be pretty depressing.
Conclusion
I am probably desensitised to the city because I have lived here for a big chunk of my life and now have been living abroad in the last year. But I think its really overrated. In terms of women, if you have good game and decent logistics you will be fine and be able to make the most of it.
But personally for myself I am just looking forward to moving back out to the East, where I don't have to jump through hoops for some average looking chick who has more testosterone than me.
Cheers