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Marriage is for Pussies

Marriage is for Pussies

I have been married and I have lived with a few women in LTR. Here is my experience, every LTR ultimately degrades to a friendship. You can only bang any woman so much before she loses most of her sex appeal. So, if you can't be good friends with a woman, don't marry her. Because once the sex and initial passion is over, all you are going to be left with is a bitch on your ass. A lot also depends on your personality. Some people need someone around. They would rather be in a bad relationship than no relationship. Others, like me, prefer to be alone rather than be in a non-functional relationship.

Marriage and all LTR, as we currently define them, are inherently flawed. Because the more we get of anything the less we appreciate and value it and all LTR break this cardinal rule of human nature.
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Quote: (07-22-2014 11:15 AM)robreke Wrote:  

Quote: (07-22-2014 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 10:21 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.

That's a joke, right? Women hold nearly all the cards in the dating game. Time to get your facts straight. Women are the supply, men are the demand. Men want sex more than women.

I can't even keep up with the demand for me, seriously. Chicks die on the vine all the time.

I'm not saying this to brag. I'm saying this because what you said was a limiting belief.

If you believe you are the prize, and make yourself worthy of being so, the demand appears to be infinite. at least so far at age 38


regarding this^ and "marriage is for pussies"........

Okay....I'm 44 and dating a cute 25 yo law student. So...at what age....or is it never....that marriage is no longer for pussies in yall's opinion? At my age...I still get interest from women under 30 a lot and can pull it off because I look probably about 10 years younger and I'm tall and fit which I suppose helps.

But...that being said...I don't think I'll be able to do this at 60....that is ....sleep with hot women in their 20s/early 30s. AND I don't really want to grow old with no one....I would like to have someone and even a family at home soon.

I mean...at 38....I used to think....'yeah by 44 I'll certainly be over the hill...etc." but I'm not. I look young or at least youngish and get young women to date me....so...maybe the envelope keep getting pushed....especially in those with good/young looking genetics.

So....yes, marriage maybe for "pussies" if you're in your 20s or 30s even....but at what point do you throw out that "alpha" sounding proclamation that "marriage is for pussies" and say...'.hey....I need to a good woman for a wife? I want a legacy....I want someone to be home when I come home from work when I'm entering old age....I don't want to die alone on my bed, etc." ? It may be the majority of the forum members that marriage is for pussies no matter what the age....but I'd like feedback on this.

funny. at 38 i tell myself, ok maybe til 44 i'll still have it like this. happy to hear from you that the envelope keeps getting pushed. i'm 6'4 and fit so that helps too.

for me at least, getting kids out of the way first has secured my legacy. the rest of it i dont know. right now i can't imagine finding a woman i'd want to really let into my life beyond a silo-ized fashion.

if it happens, it happens, but i aint looking for it.
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Recent conversation with a 20-something female colleague who's engaged

Her: What ever happened to that one girl you were hanging out with?

MDP: Who are you talking about? (even though I knew)

Her: Ummm think her name was Michelle or something?

MDP: Oh, she's around

Her: Are you guys getting 'serious' or what?

MDP: As in marriage? NO

Her: Oh, why not?

MDP: Because it mostly benefits the woman

Her: Yeah, you're right. I know

GAME.SET.MATCH

MDP
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Great comment Nomad. MDP, yep, I love hearing women say that and understand it.

I was married, too young, no kids, divorced by 28. I see no reason to marry again. Sex is to men as kids are to women...they're the ultimate victories. Marriage is a big step, but not nearly as much of a victory as bearing your children.

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Quote: (07-22-2014 11:27 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-22-2014 11:15 AM)robreke Wrote:  

Quote: (07-22-2014 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 10:21 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.

That's a joke, right? Women hold nearly all the cards in the dating game. Time to get your facts straight. Women are the supply, men are the demand. Men want sex more than women.

I can't even keep up with the demand for me, seriously. Chicks die on the vine all the time.

I'm not saying this to brag. I'm saying this because what you said was a limiting belief.

If you believe you are the prize, and make yourself worthy of being so, the demand appears to be infinite. at least so far at age 38


regarding this^ and "marriage is for pussies"........

Okay....I'm 44 and dating a cute 25 yo law student. So...at what age....or is it never....that marriage is no longer for pussies in yall's opinion? At my age...I still get interest from women under 30 a lot and can pull it off because I look probably about 10 years younger and I'm tall and fit which I suppose helps.

But...that being said...I don't think I'll be able to do this at 60....that is ....sleep with hot women in their 20s/early 30s. AND I don't really want to grow old with no one....I would like to have someone and even a family at home soon.

I mean...at 38....I used to think....'yeah by 44 I'll certainly be over the hill...etc." but I'm not. I look young or at least youngish and get young women to date me....so...maybe the envelope keep getting pushed....especially in those with good/young looking genetics.

So....yes, marriage maybe for "pussies" if you're in your 20s or 30s even....but at what point do you throw out that "alpha" sounding proclamation that "marriage is for pussies" and say...'.hey....I need to a good woman for a wife? I want a legacy....I want someone to be home when I come home from work when I'm entering old age....I don't want to die alone on my bed, etc." ? It may be the majority of the forum members that marriage is for pussies no matter what the age....but I'd like feedback on this.

funny. at 38 i tell myself, ok maybe til 44 i'll still have it like this. happy to hear from you that the envelope keeps getting pushed. i'm 6'4 and fit so that helps too.

for me at least, getting kids out of the way first has secured my legacy. the rest of it i dont know. right now i can't imagine finding a woman i'd want to really let into my life beyond a silo-ized fashion.

if it happens, it happens, but i aint looking for it.

Ok...here's a thought. Don't get married....but in order to secure a legacy...purposely get a girl you really like pregnant. Have children out of wedlock.

What are the laws and downsides regarding this? ( Besides the ones I can think of such as the kids being "bastards").....but just in essence have children so your sons will be there in your old years....but not with the chain of marriage. It's kind of like I want kids....but don't want to get stuck with one woman or fucked over in a divorce in the future. Anyway to have your cake and eat it too in this fashion that makes sense?

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Quote: (07-22-2014 11:15 AM)robreke Wrote:  

Quote: (07-22-2014 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 10:21 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.

That's a joke, right? Women hold nearly all the cards in the dating game. Time to get your facts straight. Women are the supply, men are the demand. Men want sex more than women.

I can't even keep up with the demand for me, seriously. Chicks die on the vine all the time.

I'm not saying this to brag. I'm saying this because what you said was a limiting belief.

If you believe you are the prize, and make yourself worthy of being so, the demand appears to be infinite. at least so far at age 38


regarding this^ and "marriage is for pussies"........

Okay....I'm 44 and dating a cute 25 yo law student. So...at what age....or is it never....that marriage is no longer for pussies in yall's opinion? At my age...I still get interest from women under 30 a lot and can pull it off because I look probably about 10 years younger and I'm tall and fit which I suppose helps.

But...that being said...I don't think I'll be able to do this at 60....that is ....sleep with hot women in their 20s/early 30s. AND I don't really want to grow old with no one....I would like to have someone and even a family at home soon.

I mean...at 38....I used to think....'yeah by 44 I'll certainly be over the hill...etc." but I'm not. I look young or at least youngish and get young women to date me....so...maybe the envelope keep getting pushed....especially in those with good/young looking genetics.

So....yes, marriage maybe for "pussies" if you're in your 20s or 30s even....but at what point do you throw out that "alpha" sounding proclamation that "marriage is for pussies" and say...'.hey....I need to a good woman for a wife? I want a legacy....I want someone to be home when I come home from work when I'm entering old age....I don't want to die alone on my bed, etc." ? It may be the majority of the forum members that marriage is for pussies no matter what the age....but I'd like feedback on this.

One problem with young "alpha" men is that they think they know everything. What you should ask is not what the majority of young members believe, because their opinion is not based on knowledge, but what do the older members believe. A man who has never been married, or was married as a "beta" and had an ugly divorce, cannot offer a valid insight into the pros and cons of marriage. No offence, guys! As to your question: of course you want to get married one day and enjoy family life, you just want to do it without giving up your balls. Guess what? It can be done.
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Awesome Article. Direct and to the point. This certainly reaffirms why Im not getting married anytime soon, because I like "doing me", and I certainly dont want the stress of dealing with a total bitch for Lord knows how long. Also I cant imagine knocking down the same chick for a long period of time.

Most married guys I know wish they were single like me so they can do things I do and travel like I do. They flat out tell me they wish they were single because married life isnt cracked up to what its believed to be, and I know they are right. To be honest I dont know any happily married men.
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Quote: (07-22-2014 11:15 AM)robreke Wrote:  

I want a legacy....I want someone to be home when I come home from work when I'm entering old age....I don't want to die alone on my bed, etc." ? It may be the majority of the forum members that marriage is for pussies no matter what the age....but I'd like feedback on this.

Thats exactly what Im saying. A hot, much younger wife who loves you and respects you is a lot better than having multiple bitches to screw around with. I mean you can still have some sex on the side just treat your main woman with respect and that would be enough.

The trick is to pick a good woman who respects you and accepts your lead. also if you and yur GF live in the same country, ther s no need to get married officially - marriage laws in the US are a rip off indeed. just create a family where you are the leader and being treated accordingly. and never forget to keep an eye on your wife and keep the situation under control
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Ok...here's a thought. Don't get married....but in order to secure a legacy...purposely get a girl you really like pregnant. Have children out of wedlock.

What are the laws and downsides regarding this? ( Besides the ones I can think of such as the kids being "bastards").....but just in essence have children so your sons will be there in your old years....but not with the chain of marriage. It's kind of like I want kids....but don't want to get stuck with one woman or fucked over in a divorce in the future. Anyway to have your cake and eat it too in this fashion that makes sense?
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its not just about getting a girl pregnant. you really need to build a family with that girl. otherwise the kids will be screwed. besides there are legal ways to make a man pay child support and manipulate him refuse to give him visitation rights and such like even if you and your girl were never married.

what Im basically saying is, you have to find a girl you can trust. live with her for a few years and see how she treats you and other people around you. before the two of you decide to have a kid you really need to figure out what you both want from the relationship, what your obligations will be what you expect from each other. what you will tolerate and what not.

before I commited to my woman I had explained to her that I expect her to do all of the domestic duties and bother me asking for help as little as possible. also she had known, after living with me for about a year, that I cant stand fatties and if she wants to keep me around she should work on her appearance on a regular basis and not gain any weight. besides she had known I tend to sleep around but as long as I come home sober and in time we simply dont discuss it. she doesnt go through my phone or email box, she knows her place in this relationship. on the other hand I also dont just invite mistresses in our bedroom and dont just disappear for days with other women. I enjoy quite a lot of freedom in this relationship but I also know my limits.

I would never consider just humping and dumping a girl for the sake of having a kid. It would have been an incredibly egoistic thing to do. a child must grow up wth both of his parents present. but also I know that no woman is perfect and if my woman screws it up I will fight for my kid and my property and if she betrays me I dont mind being a single dad. Yet Im still hopefull and trust my girl as long as she deserves it. I go in this relationship with full trust and good expectations but also being realistic.
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Quote: (07-22-2014 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 10:21 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.

That's a joke, right? Women hold nearly all the cards in the dating game. Time to get your facts straight. Women are the supply, men are the demand. Men want sex more than women.

I can't even keep up with the demand for me, seriously. Chicks die on the vine all the time.

I'm not saying this to brag. I'm saying this because what you said was a limiting belief.

If you believe you are the prize, and make yourself worthy of being so, the demand appears to be infinite. at least so far at age 38

Yeah, it's called hypergamy. Alphas fux beta bux. Top 20% of men get best 80% of women and sex. Not saying a man can't claw his way to the top but the facts are the facts. Women are supply men are demand.

Remember for every girl you get there's a guy beating off at home.

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Quote: (07-23-2014 07:29 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (07-22-2014 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 10:21 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.

That's a joke, right? Women hold nearly all the cards in the dating game. Time to get your facts straight. Women are the supply, men are the demand. Men want sex more than women.

I can't even keep up with the demand for me, seriously. Chicks die on the vine all the time.

I'm not saying this to brag. I'm saying this because what you said was a limiting belief.

If you believe you are the prize, and make yourself worthy of being so, the demand appears to be infinite. at least so far at age 38

Yeah, it's called hypergamy. Alphas fux beta bux. Top 20% of men get best 80% of women and sex. Not saying a man can't claw his way to the top but the facts are the facts. Women are supply men are demand.

Remember for every girl you get there's a guy beating off at home.

this is amurica dude! land of social class mobility. opportunity. history littered with people changing and growing. thats what this place is all about, right?

it can be done. you just have to want to do it, if you're not already.

actually for every girl i get, there are 4 guys beating off at home.

but they are losers. and i'm a winner.

so whats the problem?

be a winner.
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Quote: (07-23-2014 03:04 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

what Im basically saying is, you have to find a girl you can trust.

stick around, newguy.
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Quote: (07-23-2014 08:18 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-23-2014 03:04 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

what Im basically saying is, you have to find a girl you can trust.

stick around, newguy.

read my previous posts. and yes mariage in america is like suicide while most US women are garbage.

people do you even get out of your hellhole once in a while? if you cant make it to eastern europe, at least go to germany. plenty of talent on the streets and women are easily approachable
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Quote: (07-23-2014 03:04 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

it's not just about getting a girl pregnant. you really need to build a family with that girl. otherwise the kids will be screwed.

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I would never consider just humping and dumping a girl for the sake of having a kid. It would have been an incredibly egoistic thing to do. a child must grow up with both of his parents present.

Seconded. Also, this post on the first page of the thread

Any society where people do not make and value children is a society that will only last for one generation. The main reason why the US is not as prosperous as it was in the 1950s and 1960s is because we lost our moral compass with the sexual revolution.

I believe in marriage because I value having children, and, on a gaming level, because I can't enjoy pussy unless I blast my load inside.
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Quote: (07-23-2014 08:16 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

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actually for every girl i get, there are 4 guys beating off at home.

but they are losers. and i'm a winner.

so whats the problem?

be a winner.

thats a pretty tragic situation. a man must not reap his ass while trying to please a woman who s got other men fighting for her attention. it must be the other way around. women must fight for a good quality guy and he will have his pick. and those women must have no other options. then they will be soft and submissive
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Quote: (07-23-2014 03:04 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

Quote: (07-22-2014 02:26 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Ok...here's a thought. Don't get married....but in order to secure a legacy...purposely get a girl you really like pregnant. Have children out of wedlock.

What are the laws and downsides regarding this? ( Besides the ones I can think of such as the kids being "bastards").....but just in essence have children so your sons will be there in your old years....but not with the chain of marriage. It's kind of like I want kids....but don't want to get stuck with one woman or fucked over in a divorce in the future. Anyway to have your cake and eat it too in this fashion that makes sense?

its not just about getting a girl pregnant. you really need to build a family with that girl. otherwise the kids will be screwed. besides there are legal ways to make a man pay child support and manipulate him refuse to give him visitation rights and such like even if you and your girl were never married.

what Im basically saying is, you have to find a girl you can trust. live with her for a few years and see how she treats you and other people around you. before the two of you decide to have a kid you really need to figure out what you both want from the relationship, what your obligations will be what you expect from each other. what you will tolerate and what not.

before I commited to my woman I had explained to her that I expect her to do all of the domestic duties and bother me asking for help as little as possible. also she had known, after living with me for about a year, that I cant stand fatties and if she wants to keep me around she should work on her appearance on a regular basis and not gain any weight. besides she had known I tend to sleep around but as long as I come home sober and in time we simply dont discuss it. she doesnt go through my phone or email box, she knows her place in this relationship. on the other hand I also dont just invite mistresses in our bedroom and dont just disappear for days with other women. I enjoy quite a lot of freedom in this relationship but I also know my limits.

I would never consider just humping and dumping a girl for the sake of having a kid. It would have been an incredibly egoistic thing to do. a child must grow up wth both of his parents present. but also I know that no woman is perfect and if my woman screws it up I will fight for my kid and my property and if she betrays me I dont mind being a single dad. Yet Im still hopefull and trust my girl as long as she deserves it. I go in this relationship with full trust and good expectations but also being realistic.
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Interesting. So, what are some good "non piggish" ways of letting a woman know you can't stand fatties? I don't want my girl going down this road.

I ask because most all women I know think that's "shallow" including the girl I'm seeing that I like. So, I don't want to come out and say..."hey you better stay in shape and never get fat." cause then I'm a "pig".......so, what methods/subcommunications did you employ to let your women know you appreciate in shape ( read non-fat) girls?

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I think one needs to be cautious when picking a girl to marry but I certainly don't think the institution of marriage is flawed. Having a family is a respectable goal and it's something that I look forward to.

I think the problem lies with men who wife up the first piece of pussy they get and wonder why they get walked all over.
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Amen brother I cannot imagine why any sane man would choose just one girl out of the millions AND have kids too==prison and adds to the world's burdens by adding more humans to this overpopulated planet we call earth....Bravo you are my new jesus ! HAHAH !

Quote: (09-05-2012 01:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

This is the best rant against marriage I've ever read. And I've read a lot of rants against marriage. This one is worth the effort.

Some context.

Blogger Donlak wrote an article why it's okay to get married if you have game: https://donlak.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/get-married/

Then a guy named Mark Minter decides to set things straight. (Grab a beer, sit down for 15-30 minutes, and read this.)


Marriage is for Pussies

By Mark Minter



This is the most ridiculous logic I have heard. To call someone a pussy that counsels not to get married because of the risk is blowhard bullshit. You have a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of dying when you leave the house. You have 1 in 2 chance of divorce. 1 in 2. My opinion and observation of data is that your odds are higher if you marry someone attractive. Higher still if you were a player. So go to a roulette wheel and bet 40% of all of your future income on the red or the black. Same thing. It depends on your definition of Game. Some say Game is proactive and allows you to get the best out of life. I think it is somewhat reactive. I say it is defensive. Game enables you to avoid Oneitis and to make sane and rational decisions, to not be dragged, tricked, or manipulated into marriage.

You ever been married for 17 years? I have. I know what it is like. I know the boredom you will experience. I know what it is like to be chained to a career that is not your choosing because of the financial pressures placed on you. I am a expert at mid 19th Russian history because my fucking wife went to bed early for 10 years. Ask me how much mid 19th century Russian history I have read since divorce. None. I spent this weekend watching every college game on TV.

The odds are you probably will end up divorced. You don’t know how to be married. You think you do and you think that Game might help to avoid divorce. Fuck off. The only way you will stay married is if she has no better alternative to you. And if you have no balls. If you are a nice little handyman, if you stand around and hold her coat and let her direct the movie, then she might just let you keep on being her slave. All this talk about Game saving you from divorce is pretty recent and to me, mighty suspect with what I know about being married. My opinion is that if you are a lion, then you will be divorced. If you are a mouse then you might be divorced. You have to toe the line of what women think is the “good dad” and you will have to subordinate yourself to the woman’s definition of the “greater good”. Both me and my brother-in-law were faced with a situation where both of us had vetted wives based on the fact that they would work. “Sure. Sure. We love to work. We’re modern women”. Then when the kids came both wives quit or got fired. They were both faced with some tough situations at work and both sat down. “My baby needs me.” Fuck that. She didn’t work anymore and used the convenient justification. Both, my brother-in-law and I freaked out. Both women felt absolutely justified. “People change. When I said I would work, I didn’t know the reality of how much I would want to be with my child.” You can say same about a ton of things, where you live, how much money is acceptable, how big a house. Also, my wife was supposed to inherit about 7 million dollars from her dad and then the dad re-married, out of the blue, right before he died, and the new wife took a great chunk of that money when the will was changed. My ex-wife figured, hey a few million isn’t enough for two people to live on so it is in her advantage to ditch this guy before her dad died.

Fine, marriage might work out for you. It probably won’t and you will fuck yourself bad. It happens to 1 in 2 men. 1 in fucking 2.

This might be the first time I have read this blog and I don’t know man, but I certainly will filter anything you might write after this. This is pure hyper macho “Real alphas aren’t afraid to marry”. Fine, get a revolver, but 3 bullets in it, spin the chamber, and put it to your head. Same thing, buddy. 1 in 2 man.

The essence of modern divorce law is that it changes the classical trade of surplus labor for sex. Once anyone can receive the benefit from any deal without supplying their part then you can bet your ass that they will use the situation to their advantage. Dalrock wrote last week that the modern church preaches that it is the duty of the woman to withhold sex to coerce her husband into acting “right” as she defines “right” to be. Fairness never enters into it. “He won’t go to Home Depot with me because I want to change all the light switches in the house because I don’t like them and he wants to watch stupid football instead”. That’s justification enough for her to withhold sex. Or “I’m too tired. I have my job and the kids.” or any 100s of reasons that the hamster will use to justify it and you can do nothing to keep it from happening. So then when she has starved you out for 6 months and then you look at porn after hours and hours of being alone, then “Aha, he looks a porn and I am justified in divorcing him”. The law gives the woman undue advantage legally and you are hoping she will listen to her better angels and not take advantage.

It not a lack of courage. It is prudentiality. You examine the rewards and you consider the risk as well as the potential loss. And just because you have read four blogs that say game your wife and she won’t leave you is not enough to make me forget that millions of men are tossed out into the street every year. You can read all you want about trading in Forex and think you are just the shit on trading the JPY-EUR pair and then lose your ass. Prudentiality or prudence, however you want to look at it, will allow to know a bad risk when you see it. Courage has nothing to do with judgement.

Your kidding yourself if you think you can eliminate risk by looking at age, education, parental history, and a bunch of factors. The only safe way is to not marry. And it is not a coward’s way out. You will be happier in the end when you are 55, 60, 70. I have been alone for two years now at 57. The lack of stress, of not having a bitch, of no abuse, of no arguments, no Home Depot, no stupid female bullshit is tremendous. My dad never remarried after my mom died. They fought for years throughout the whole marriage and she slept alone in another room for about 5 years before she died. No one was more Alpha then him. He partied a bit and she was always on his ass about it. Once she accused him of having a girlfriend and he said “Evelyn, you may not have cured me of drinking, but you damn sure cured me of women.” And he meant it. After she died, he never even had a girlfriend.

We all thought “Gosh, he must be lonely” He fucking wasn’t. He had ample money to do as he pleased and he did exactly that. I didn’t really know how happy he was to not have 5 kids up his ass all wanting something from him and a bitch on his back all the time. Until I did it.

He had sort of been a role model for me. I surely wanted to wait to marry, to not have a lot of kids, because even as a boy I figured out he was getting the shit end of the stick. I should have paid even better attention and never married.

Sure, when your in your 30s and early 40s, people will think there is something fucked with you because they all think old school, if you were worth a shit then a woman would want you or you would “man up”.

You have to leave all that bullshit thinking behind. Like it or not, this is a new era in mankind. Marriage is and will continue to be the first casualty of PostModernism.

You know what. I am going exactly the other direction from you. You are a pussy if you do marry. You are a coward that is falling for conditioning, that you need the social validation of it, that you are afraid that you will be alone when you are old, that you need to follow what you are told to do and man-up and meet your responsibilities, that you are afraid to stick your nose out there and continue to struggle to get what you want from women and from the world and you want a bitch to tell you what to do, that you are such a fucking wimp that you need a woman so you can lay your head on her chest and seek your mother like you were a little baby infant (Coco Chanel’s word about men, not mine).

Pussy.
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Best post ever on this site !
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Marriage is for Pussies

For some of us the choices have been made for us...i.e. we were passed over by women in our prime, never found what we were good at or had a stable career..I am 51 and am single not by choice but because most of the women I loved didn't love me...And now that I have discovered how many women I can get overseas and I realize how much I hate kids, hate humans overpopulating the earth, and how I view marriage as un-natural---nowhere else in the animals kingdom except humanity does monagamy exist...I now wonder if I am the lucky one..I just did 3 months in the Fils and Thailand and fell in love w no one, didn't give anyone money, didn't buy a house, didn't have a girlfriend and didn't get married...It is a big world out there and there are billions of cute women...Why settle for one woman ? One city ? One country ? Explore...be free !


Quote: (09-05-2012 05:31 PM)durangotang Wrote:  

Honestly, what woman would want to have children with a man unwilling to marry them? She is going to carry a baby to term, potentially risk her life during delivery, need your financial support and protection while she raises the child - and you aren't even willing to marry her because someday she might divorce you and you lose some possessions? She is all in when she gets pregnant. It is only reasonable that she wants the same commitment in return.

Getting married lets her know you are in it together and that you mean it. It is the same statement to society as well (not that I care too much what others think, but she will). Now don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of no fault divorce necessarily, or indefinite alimony, so I can understand certain objections. Our laws need reform. If you really want protection, put your assets into a trust before you get married.

I wonder about this place sometimes. This argument is the same thing as wanting a feminine, demure, attractive girl and bitching about assuming the masculine role and buying her a drink or dinner. This forum loves to bitch about how feminists have changed women, yet balks at assuming traditional males roles like husband or father. In the long run, raising successful children in a loving family will be 100 times more satisfying than just banging sluts in one night stands and ending up old and alone.

If you don't want children then by all means don't get married. I understand that argument.

The stability and tradition of a loving two parent household, however, is important to raise well adjusted children - and that means living together for the long term, and that doesn't mean her divorcing you and taking the children out of your life either. You need to find the right girl.

Here are some stats:

-63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census)
-85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes
-71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
-70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes
-85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home
-Boys who grow up in father-absent homes are more likely that those in father-present homes to have trouble establishing appropriate sex roles and gender identity.

Why dog on marriage? To raise children a healthy marriage is important. If that's not your thing and never will be, then game on player.
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Genius: For myself the choice was taken away..I have been invisible to women most of my life...I didn't have any game until my 40's and never had girlfriend till I was 50...So HOW THE FUKK could I have kids if no one wanted to fuk me or have me as their boyfriend ??!! Get a clue some of us get cut of the gene pool because we are too ugly and have no career....So we are forced to go into middle and old age alone..What choice do we have other than suicide ???

Quote: (07-11-2014 10:21 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

Quote: (07-11-2014 09:39 AM)memcpy Wrote:  

If I had kids, it would be my luck that I would have 2-3 girls instead of all boys. That would drive me nuts. Then when those girls grow up I know all to well their future if they should decide to ride the carousel.

is this the end of the world? having a daughter by a beautiful mother is awesome. me and my Gf are planning on having kids untill there is a son. if after 5-6 daughters we still dont have a boy, we`ll adopt. plus there s new technologies that allow you to create embrios of a certain gender.

as for women riding the cock carousel, well Im not against game in general but I believe in pumping and dumping sluts only. I dont screw over relationship minded women. If you dont want your daughter to ride the cock carousel, raise her in traditional ways and marry her off when she is in her early twenties. if all men out there will become players like roosh, eventually Im afraid relationship minded traditional girls will have no chance to get married and reproduce and also become extinct. next thing you know most female population will be sluts for ONS. on the other hand maybe thats what most ppl on this forum want.

People here believe being an alpha means fucking around with women, having as many of them as possible and then dying alone at 50 surrounded by 16 year old phillipina whores or whatever.

I believe being an alpha means having a whole buch of high quality women during your twenties, settle down with a keeper in your thirties and then have your perfect stepford-esque wife raise a bunch of kids while you build up your career enjoy life and also fuck around a bit with younger chicks from time to time. your wife knows you like messing around but she keeps her mouth shut as long as you treat her with respect, bring home no diseases and dont have no illegitimate children. you die at 80 surrounded by multiple kids and grandkids after having built a famiylbusinnes to hand over to your sons and stiff like that.

I dont mean to sound like a white knight and I undestand roosh and other players but at the same time if we keep slutting around how do we expect women to stay pure and traditional? they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.
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I'm on this site to study game and I appreciate the lessons. Some of the young guys here have way more experience in game than I do even though in many instances I am three times their age. So, here, I am a student. But when a young guy who calls himself "alpha" and who has never been married starts opining about marriage, and cites as evidence things like numbers of divorces, I can't help it but remember that I am a professor, and as such I try to teach my students critical thinking. So let's take the case of a young guy who believes the following two statements:
1. The divorce statistics prove that marriage is bad for an alpha
2. Alpha males are a minority among males; that is, almost every man is beta.
Do you see a problem in the logic here? By 2, most man are beta. Therefore, the divorce statistics apply mostly to marriages where the man is beta! So how does that even apply to you who think of yourself as an alpha? In addition, divorce is not the end of the world. I've done it a couple of times after giving it the same amount of thought that I gave to ending several other LTRs (I define LTR as living together over a year). Marriage is a formality that helps with some important functions; e.g., if your LTR is from the ex-Soviet Union and you want to bring her to America you have to marry her. But other than that, marriage is just a form of LTR. Financial issues can be properly planned for, as discussed elsewhere in the forum. Now if you say that you do not ever want an LTR then I say you don't know what you are missing. And I am not talking about sex now: life is not 100% about sex.
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Genius: For myself the choice was taken away..I have been invisible to women most of my life...I didn't have any game until my 40's and never had girlfriend till I was 50...So HOW THE FUKK could I have kids if no one wanted to fuk me or have me as their boyfriend ??!! Get a clue some of us get cut of the gene pool because we are too ugly and have no career....So we are forced to go into middle and old age alone..What choice do we have other than suicide ???

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you only have yourself to blame. you were born in a feminist fucked up place but your american passport allowed you to travel freely. you could have gone to Ukraine or Poland 20 years ago when the iron curtain fell, and found yourself a decent european wife and made a bunch of kids. instead you sat on your ass in America trying to please spoiled feminist bitches, wasting your youth away, believeing in the stupid myth of America being the best in the world. for fucks sake if you are such a pussy and afraid to travel to faraway places untill they become tourist friendly, you could have gone to Italy, spain, germany, sweden ,yes those countries are polluted with feminist agenda, but they are also full of good looking women who may not be so good for marriage, but good for sex. still, its better than nothing.

you are afraid to break your heart by a cheating/betraying woman but the trick is not to trust a woman completely as if she were some saint. the trick is to have one main woman that keeps the house clean and raises your kids while you enjoy life. and if she ever starts messing around you will always replace her iwth someone else.

a suicide at 50? are you a freaking idiot? go to Ukraine, you ll find women who are 30-35 and more than happy to meet a decent guy in his 50s. go to latin america. a healthy man in his 50s is like a treasure there. you can still have family and kids and everything just stop being a pathetic loser and start living your life.
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Quote: (07-25-2014 02:45 AM)newarrior Wrote:  

I dont mean to sound like a white knight and I undestand roosh and other players but at the same time if we keep slutting around how do we expect women to stay pure and traditional? they will ride that cock carousel mainly because we provide it to them.

No. We provide the cock carousel because they demand it. If it weren't us, it would be some other players (created by women themselves through unleashed twin demons of hypergamy and preselection).

Roosh wrote a very good article about this, but I don't know what it's called.

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Quote: (07-23-2014 01:18 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Interesting. So, what are some good "non piggish" ways of letting a woman know you can't stand fatties? I don't want my girl going down this road.

I ask because most all women I know think that's "shallow" including the girl I'm seeing that I like. So, I don't want to come out and say..."hey you better stay in shape and never get fat." cause then I'm a "pig".......so, what methods/subcommunications did you employ to let your women know you appreciate in shape ( read non-fat) girls?

you apparently live in the US and date american women. I believe that all US women are crap except for the traditional christian types. since I detest US women so much I cannot give you a perfect solution for keeping her thin. I can only tell about my experience.

first of all, I picked a woman from a culture that values marriage. an unmarried woman over 25 here is considered a loser, a divorced woman with a child has no chance to get married.therefore, women have to compete hard for a man and constantly work on their looks. my GF is a fitness/yoga/aerobics couch, she had completed her schooling only a year and a half ago. of course she has to stay in shape if anything, than at least for work purposes. plus while I had been living in Russia she always had a high competiton around me and she knew she had to stay in shape. I actually heard her mother saying to her over dinner, do not eat any sweets after six, do you want to get fat on your hips? there are so many cute girls in the city, you dont your man to stray from you.

I mean its a different type of culture where a man is put high on a pedestal and its just a different approach to a man. If you ever date a girl from Russia, Ukraine or Belarus you will see that the way she treats you is a completely different experience. she actually tries to please you so as to keep you by her side and prevent other women from taking her away. of course she will try her best to stay thin.

I personally chose a girl who is also very laid back and drama free. One the tests I ran on her was how she responded to me making compliments to other women. for example we would be on the beach sitting in a cafe and I would be eyeing a hot girl sitting next to us in a short dress. I would say smth like "wow that girl has amazing legs. and shes so tanned. i hope after we return from this holiday we will have the same tan." or when we watched a tennis game and would be lookinmg at maria sharapova and say "does she have a nice ass! looking at her, I understand why it is important for a woman to work out." Imagine the reaction I would get from a brainwashed american slut. how dare you look at other womens legs! so you think she`s prettier than me? funnily enough even some eastern european women may react this way if they have a dramatic character. I filtered a lot of chicks untill I found a fitness fanatic who openly publishes pictures of fitness models on facebook writing underneath it "I want to have those abs!" she is a huge fan of maria sharapova and would only suggest smth like "yes, you re right, she does have a nice body. obviously tennis does a lot to improve a womans phisique maybe I should see if they have a tennis court somewhere near by where we could go." its just that kind of girl. I dont need to tell her to stay fit she already knwos it.

another important factor is also the country where you live. I live in Germany where people put a lot of emphasize on looking good and stay fit. my mother is in her 60s and she still is fit, thin and rides her bike to work everyday. its not even to please or "keep" my dad its just her (and german) way of life. most of my collegues ride bikes to work because its healthy and the car here does not symbolize a high social status. most women start riding bikes everywhere as mush as possible at the age of 7 till their late 60s. in my country its just not cool to be fat. obesity is widely accepted in the american society and already became part of the general picure while in germany fatties are rare and frown upon. the society does not harrass or shame fat people but it also does not accomodate to them. there are no extra large seats in restaurants no mega sized clothing, even seats in trams and buses are narrow. if you are oversized you will soon feel uncomfortable. so people are trying to stay in shape just for the sake of feeling good about themselves.

also here in germany as well as in scandinavian countries people (incl married couples) enjoy physical activities its a part of the culture here. instead of going to a fast food restaurnat to buy a cheap meal with a coupon they go riding bikes, boats or horses, hiking, camping, rowing and so on. they take their children along with them and teach them how cool it is to be sporty and fit. plus we also try to eat healthy our food is better quality tahn in the us. a lot of eastern european women are obsessed with diets while german swedish and danish women just make healthy choices. even food in our school7college canteens is healthier than in the US. Ive never seen any horrible bullying or fat shaming but fatties are just rare and therefore not acceptable.

I guess it would be wise to find a woman in a country with a healthy population, a woman who has a high level of self discipline and will not allow herself slide. the problem with America is that average looking bitches are put on a pedestal and treated like queens so it gets in their head. they have so many choices in men they can easily start cheating and so on. no idea hwo to date an american woman and how to keep her in line.

but I could advise a few shit tests. say smth about a hot actress or singer you like, how she has nice abs or smth like that . throw a few expressions such as "women need to work out a lot since their youth, when you re over 30 and have a baby its harder to get back in shape." see her reaction. suggest to eat healthier at home, no deep fried foods, no sodas. watch if she can cook if she has a passion for nice home cooked meals or whether she just heats up a tv dinner in a microwave. its all about those little things. give her a gym membership for her birthday and suggest you go there together. basically make it known that you support a healthy lifestyle, value beauty and fitness and expect the same from her. but be respectfull. I would never tell a girl some model has got a better ass than her. Id rather say, wow she has a hot ass she probably works out a lot. another important factor is when a woman really went out of her way to look good, make sure she knwos you apprecaite it. I often tell my Gf how I like her in taht dress or how cool it is that she takes care of herself. she will wnat to keep up with that appearance in order to earn your compliments.

but take all of my a advices with a grain of salt. I aint no marriage or relationship counselor Im just trying to explain my view on women and how I think a man could achieve happiness.
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