I want to let this thread go, just to see how long it takes for you guys to tire yourselves out.

The assertion that all positions can be equally replaced by someone else who is more competitive is valid...

...so long as all jobs value competitiveness as indicative of a good employee.

Consider these:

1. An old boy's club, where positions are filled by word of mouth. Reputation is valued more than competition.
2. A creative job, where the principal seeks to hire an employee based on his creativity. Creativity is valued more than competition.
3. A perceptive job, where the principal seeks to hire an employee who will better empathize with the customer. Perceptiveness and empathy are valued more than competition.

These are *valid* reasons to hire someone. So the assertion of competitiveness is only part of the story.

Some people have more talent. Some are more creative. Some have more drive. Some are just too dumb to comprehend what a position entails. Some have fucked up personal lives that ruin their productivity. Etc.

And also, I can learn about computer programming from a dude who can barely speak English, but its because we are speaking a common language: the computer language. Isn't this a much more interesting direction the world is taking, rather than talking about the most prominent language/ethnicity/creed like its a market ticker.

WestCoast, we have over 150 million working people in this country, not all of them can work on the oil fields, do X-rays or draw blood. You're out of touch with the economy, as most Wall Street guys are. I'm not trying to knock you - if you want to be successful in your field you need to be hyper-focused and driven like you are - I just don't think you're really in touch with the reality of the economic situation for the average American, who has lived with stagnant or declining wages for decades while the country has been flooded with immigrants.

Ny digital and scorpion should just move to Maine. I heard digital is already setting up shop there. Why are the biggest anti brown people usually from lame, white bread areas?

Quote: (02-06-2014 05:40 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I want to let this thread go, just to see how long it takes for you guys to tire yourselves out.

The hilarious part is that I was following the exact same strategy.

Why are the biggest anti brown people usually from lame, white bread areas?

Why is anyone who opposes mass illegal immigration considered white racists and "anti-brown?"

I'm "part-brown" as well as "part-white" and "part-yellow" and I live in one of the least non-white States in the country.

The story is no different here. We now have Micronesians flooding into our State, "doing the jobs those on welfare won't do," as well as brazenly committing crimes like robbing tourists in broad daylight.

Give the Mexicans and brown people their cocacola and let them sing in Chinese or whatever. That game sucked that's probably why people were pissed off. I bet the people tweeting were all Broncos fans.

Quote: (02-06-2014 05:55 PM)K Galt Wrote:  

Why is anyone who opposes mass illegal immigration considered white racists and "anti-brown?"

Good question. My parents immigrated legally to this country to obtain higher education, and subsequently raised their american born children here while contributing (conservatively) millions of USD over the years in taxes and real estate and the general costs associated with sending kids to universities and graduate schools. All of the money earned by working was spent here in this country, not send overseas to help foreign families and relatives.

Given our past, I have little problem with importing a reasonable amount of some of the best and brightest talent from around the world, but I fail to see what positive gains over the long term will come from massive ethnic conclaves of impoverished Guatemalans and Somalis in our communities.

Actually in Maine, all the white people are doing the petty jobs.

And I made a few very small comments.

Why am I suddenly anti brown? I'm confused.

Quote: (02-06-2014 05:40 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I want to let this thread go, just to see how long it takes for you guys to tire yourselves out.

What's funny is that nothing is coming out of this except more "likes" and "rep points" being tossed around. No one in the "real world" is listening to the guy who signs his checks from the back. Oh, you file a W-2? Well, fuck your broke ass.

The man with the purse strings signs his checks on the front. Vast majority of men in that situation support immigration, illegal immigration especially. Keep overhead costs as low as possible while raising productivity as high as possible. Those same men have sway over the lawmakers. They fill their coffers in exchange for favorable policies while the hoarder asks for something in return for nothing. Every man who wants to remain in America should make it his goal to be the man that writes checks on the front. If not, get as much as you can out of the opposite situation and dip the fuck out when you're ready.

Interestingly, this thread has proven the need for immigration. Who the fuck is going to do the work when you've got Americans spending all day on the Roosh forum arguing about shit that they have no ability to change.

Man this thread is getting really heated.

Let's all take a break and have ourselves a drink.

Quote: (02-06-2014 05:14 PM)K Galt Wrote:  

It's the immigrants who come here (many illegally) and establish homogeneous enclaves, make no attempt to assimilate to the culture at large, but rather attempt to force the host culture to accommodate their own practices and values. Like the Somalis in Minnesota or the Muslims in Dearborn, MI...or the Mexican barrios all over the South West.

(EDIT - recalled the immigrant populace incorrectly, that was Somalis in Minnesota, not Nigerians)

Most Somalians living in MN are here as legal refugees, and though many can be found in one neighborhood most live spread across the twin cities metro area. The Somalian population in Minnesota is integrating rather well. We have Somali teachers in our schools, Somali officers on the police force (not an easy feat, MN is one of two states where you need a degree to become an officer), and just elected our first Somali politician - they're even represented fairly well between democrats and republicans. Back in 2006 Somali's owned over 600 businesses in Minnesota, and I'm sure that number has only grown since then.

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:12 PM)Rosca Wrote:  

Let's all take a break and have ourselves a drink.

Here, have one of these instead:

   

Anyone else here boycotting the new robocop movie?

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:13 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:12 PM)Rosca Wrote:  

Let's all take a break and have ourselves a drink.

Here, have one of these instead:

or one of these

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:12 PM)Osiris Wrote:  

Quote: (02-06-2014 05:14 PM)K Galt Wrote:  

It's the immigrants who come here (many illegally) and establish homogeneous enclaves, make no attempt to assimilate to the culture at large, but rather attempt to force the host culture to accommodate their own practices and values. Like the Somalis in Minnesota or the Muslims in Dearborn, MI...or the Mexican barrios all over the South West.

(EDIT - recalled the immigrant populace incorrectly, that was Somalis in Minnesota, not Nigerians)

Most Somalians living in MN are here as legal refugees, and though many can be found in one neighborhood most live spread across the twin cities metro area. The Somalian population in Minnesota is integrating rather well. We have Somali teachers in our schools, Somali officers on the police force (not an easy feat, MN is one of two states where you need a degree to become an officer), and just elected our first Somali politician - they're even represented fairly well between democrats and republicans. Back in 2006 Somali's owned over 600 businesses in Minnesota, and I'm sure that number has only grown since then.

One of countless examples. Add Nigerians, Indians, Vietnamese,
Lebanese, Iranians, Cubans, pretty much any "South American" country, etc to that list.

These groups add value.

Look at Elon Musk. South African man who always felt like an American trapped in the wrong country. Look at the outsized value he's created since coming here. Tesla, Paypal (huge benefit), etc.

Hell, at one point the military was offering citizenship to illegals in exchange for service since recruitment levels have dropped significantly ever since the US transitioned to voluntary service.

How many guys on this thread has put on a uniform? Not many. Ali is one. He's not saying anything though. Yeah, don't talk about loyalty then when all you want is a damn job simply for existing on American soil.

I'll just leave this here: http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/01/...nks/61515/

Hen, have you served?

You know, I've got a lot more to say on this particular topic. Anyone wants to see the end result of unimpeded migrations of foreigners effects on a native culture, look no further than Hawaii. We who are of Hawaiian ancestry are minorities in our own homeland. Our native language and many of our practices came very close to extinction. We've been utterly diluted by mass miscegenation. And yet, we survive. Why? Because many of us have strived to revive and maintain many of our old cultural practices, values and ideals - and the most important way to do this? Most Hawaiian cultural practitioners teach anyone of any race or creed as long as they are honestly interested in learning and perpetuating the Hawaiian culture....aka ASSIMILATE.

The Hawaiian hula school will teach hula to any and all students willing to learn and assimilate into the culture of Hawaiian hula. But the student MUST conform to the rites, practices and values of the school they seek to join.

The hula school does not allow a group of Mexican students to start holding mariachi dance lessons in the middle of their school on a regular basis, disrupting their own Hula lessons...and if the Mexicans wanted to try that, the Hawaiian Hula school would have every right to kick them out without being called "racists" and "bigots."

We got people from all over the globe that migrated here. Difference is, until quite recently, most of these migrants "assimilated" into the unique culture of Hawaii. But it seems like in the last decade or so, we are getting our own "migrant enclaves" who have no interest in assimilating to the culture at large, but rather seek to live like a parasite off of it...just like all over the US and Europe.

To oppose this is not "racist." I think "white" Americans have every right to want to preserve their cultural heritage (but then, I think the same for the Native Americans who would wish to kick all the whites out and take back their homeland.)

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:23 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  

Hen, have you served?

Nope. I wanted to after college but OCS had budget issues and weren't taking any more candidates. Ended up getting a job instead and never looked back.

I'm just saying, to bring up loyalty, one has to ask what have they done for their country, not what their country can do for them.

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:21 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Yeah, don't talk about loyalty then when all you want is a damn job in simply for existing. Ohh, how bad it must feel.

No one said that.... It's about unnecessary wage depreciation, not free jobs for everyone who inhales and exhales.

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:27 PM)Saga Wrote:  

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:21 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Yeah, don't talk about loyalty then when all you want is a damn job in simply for existing. Ohh, how bad it must feel.

No one said that.... It's about unnecessary wage depreciation, not free jobs for everyone who inhales and exhales.

Well, then do what the French do and hold some CEOs hostage. Arguing ad nauseum on the Roosh forum during "work hours" is only proving why multigenerational Americans have a terribly bad work ethic. The French figured out a long time ago to physically go after the man who signs the check on the front when they want a solution.

"Ended up getting a job instead and never looked back."

Yup. So youre saying you can make your points but we can't?

Quote: (02-06-2014 06:19 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

or one of these

Or, one of these.

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These groups add value.

Groups that choose to assimilate their host countries values and cultural practices are not a problem. It's when they form enclaves and refuse to assimilate, and then agitate to get their hosts to accommodate their home culture, and even allow them exception to rules and laws, that's when we get problems.

"White" American cultural identity only emerged, because all the Euro-races put aside their former Nationalist identities and assimilated to a common "American" one.

This is not what we are seeing in places all over the world today.