Laugh. You guys think you're the only one into Dom game? I do that shit all the time. But a young hot American chick is still a cheating slut. I've fucked girls till they bleed. They love the sex. But ultimately a slut is a slut and they will move onto new cock.

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:10 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

In all my years and all my women I have never ever once had a girl cheat on me.

And before you say I am naive and don't know consider that I've been steady fucking and getting laid since I was 15. I'm 37. I am pretty sure I know what's what.

Bro, I once finished fucking a girl in the ass. Right after I rolled off her, her phone rang. She picked it up and spoke like nothing ever happened. I'm sure her boyfriend thought he had the greatest girlfriend in the world. After all, she picked up on the second ring!

Tell me, for such a man as experienced as yourself, hasn't a girl ever cheated with you?

Anybody that says "no girl has cheated on them" is a fucking idiot or mentally retarded.

A slut is a slut is a slut. You really think you're that special? GTFO.

EVERY player gets played and/or cheated on. Even myself the Great McQueen. : )

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Vanilla sex with a guy is fungible. To a girl, "a cock is a cock," for the most part.

Once you start taking girls to her most primal self, other guys are going to bore her:

The 50 Shades of Grey series has sold over 70 million copies.

If you are not already tying girls up, choking them, leaving bruises on them from biting them...then you are late to the party.

It is, but at the same time they aren't attracted to the majority of men and still can be very picky.

I remember when that Eminem song with Rihanna came out in 2010, about an abusive relationship, literally every girl was quoting that on her facebook.

Even girls who claim they want "nice guys", which everyone knows is a lie. But I'm starting to think they want more than just conventional alpha, they want a man who is borderline abusive or at least rough in bed to the point it could be.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:57 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

Anybody that says "no girl has cheated on them" is a fucking idiot or mentally retarded.

A slut is a slut is a slut. You really think you're that special? GTFO.

EVERY player gets played and/or cheated on. Even myself the Great McQueen. : )

You're berating someone for chest beating and closing off with some chest beating of your own.

Way to call it.

Where are the girl's text messages at?

Snooped on my ex gf phone, that trip to New York she wanted to take with her friends was a trip by herself that she wanted to take to fuck her ex boyfriend best friend.

Dated a chick a couple of years ago, who wanted to be in a relationship with me. After I fucked her twice I told her I had a gf and wanted to only keep fucking her and she can fuck who ever she wants. Next week after that I found out she is periodically fucking some dude that she met online, borrowing money to her separated husband( I didn't even know she was married, until I told her she can go fuck whoever she wants!) so she can get her green card, dating a guy from her class, and on top of that draining my balls two times a week. I would sometimes sit on her bed and watch youtube with or without headphones while she would be on the phone with either her husband or some guy she was dating/banging.

Those two were conservative shy chinese girls. I don't even need to tell you what I've seen American girls do.

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:02 PM)wolf Wrote:  

( I didn't even know she was married, until I told her she can go fuck whoever she wants!)

It is incredible what you will find out from girls when you drop all pretense of being boyfriend material. Those shy conservative girls, or normal girls, will tell you dirt you wouldn't believe.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:02 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

@ Pyre, I don't really have a horse in the race these days because I don't really care what a girl does. I just find the degree to which girls will misrepresent themselves amusing.

Several years ago, I invested both my time and emotions into a girl that appeared to be everything I would look for in a woman (she was extremely cute, and seemed to be chaste, innocent and loyal). Several months in, she stayed at mine one weekend, and over the course of the weekend pressured me to agree to an exclusive relationship, which I did (I played it cool, but inside I jumped at the offer).

She left her facebook open after leaving my place, and I was able to watch a chat unfold in real time as she sat in the taxi back to hers. She was talking with a young footballer from the reserves of a high profile team in another city. She agreed to meet him when he was going to be in our city in a few weeks time, and even asked him if he was staying in a hotel.

I looked around her facebook and there were more conversations with several other men in the early stages, in which she told them she was single and not seeing anyone, and in some, even used the same in jokes that I had developed between us etc (game 101).

This all felt like a kick in the stomach, and I remember that I lost my appetite and couldn't sit still for days. It wasn't her actions in and of themselves though (I wouldn't have cared had she been honest; I was a big boy and I knew that girls are having sex out there etc), but that she had deceived me into falling in love with her.

I'd already been betrayed and hardened in other areas of life at a young age, but still held some hope that there were good girls out there. I turned pretty cold after that.

I'd be curious to hear how you ended it too. Sorry that that happened to you.

Quote: (08-14-2013 11:57 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

Any chance we could see a data sheet on how you lead up to this, any particular techniques you like to use in terms of BDSM?

I understand the importance of dominance, and I've done the basics before with multiple girls, but nothing particularly planned out or methodical

Plan it out. Have an upfront communication with the girls about what they think they want, what you plan to do, what their limits are. Use a safe word. Some girls are just going to be into the bondage/domination aspect, others will be into the S+M, the Venn diagrams overlap, but not completely obvs. They are different - some girls will love nipple clamps, others will turn green if you mention them ... But then that girl might love a princess plug.

As for leading up to the bondage, you can pull out your silk ties and tie them around her wrists or ankles without tying her to the bed. You can even do this while giving her a massage.

For someone you have higher trust with, or is 'up for anything,' I prefer to start with bondage cuffs now. Same idea - put them on her arms and wrists while telling her what I'm going to do to her for the next 2 hours.
If they are nodding or doggy-eyes or wet you're on the right track...any girl who lets you tie them up wants to be dominated, the skill comes in gauging how far she wants to go.
Take it step by step - dirty talk, lightly bound, collared, spanking, tightly secured, make her beg, add toys, hogtied, choking, uncomfortably tied and chained, various levels of humiliation and/or pain, hot wax, water sports, pony play.

Dominance isn't just about Bondage/S+M. You can have a lot of fun just telling her you're taking her out in the sluttiest outfit imaginable. Like a 10" skirt, stilettos, and a tube top/t-shirt that covers maybe 60% of her tits - complete bimbo wear. If she's into it she'll soak her panties before you even get far. Take her to a bar, or a club, or dinner, walk around the city, go to a strip club, girls who see you roll in like that get *very* interested in what you can offer.

If you want a 3-way it can happen much faster than you think because you have her on display. I've never had so many girls approach me as when I took out a leggy blonde on a collar & leash in a leather micromini and gladiator heels. And this was in a University town.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:12 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:02 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

Several years ago, I invested both my time and emotions into a girl that appeared to be everything I would look for in a woman (she was extremely cute, and seemed to be chaste, innocent and loyal). Several months in, she stayed at mine one weekend, and over the course of the weekend pressured me to agree to an exclusive relationship, which I did (I played it cool, but inside I jumped at the offer).

yeah, that's cold to do right after pressuring you into an exclusive.

What did you end up doing? Break up with her? Call her out? Keep her as a side piece but say you were exclusive?

I went out with another girl on valentine's day which was a few days later, after we had tentatively made plans. After my date (didn't get anything), and about 50 missed calls later, I answered and got her round very late that night, hate fucked her and then just brought it all up. She cried fake tears and made a show of closing facebook and deleting numbers from her phone, but I told her it would be difficult for me to trust her again. I went on seeing her here and there for about a month, and then it just fizzled out. Her facebook was back on almost immediately.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Vanilla sex with a guy is fungible. To a girl, "a cock is a cock," for the most part.

Once you start taking girls to her most primal self, other guys are going to bore her:

The 50 Shades of Grey series has sold over 70 million copies.

If you are not already tying girls up, choking them, leaving bruises on them from biting them...then you are late to the party.

I'm sure you're right, but this kind of thing just doesn't interest me at all.

Quote: (08-16-2013 12:56 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

If you are not already tying girls up, choking them, leaving bruises on them from biting them...then you are late to the party.

but basic hard fucking is all I'm interested in.

So....tie her up and fuck her even harder? She will definitely think you did.

Glad to see this thread getting back on track after the derailment

Quote: (08-13-2013 09:05 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

Going through a girl's phone is opening Pandora's Box. If you're new to game your heart will start racing at just how many cocks she's playing as well.

If she's not YOUR girl don't give a fuck and don't snoop. It's pointless anyway; you're not trying to lock her down or put a ring on it.

I say do it if you can to share the info here on the forum.

If not enlightening, it can be entertaining at the very least.

Quote: (08-14-2013 05:50 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I've dated 3 at once. They weren't with other guys.

How can I know?

When you are banging them and they are bleeding, or need you to stop at the second time, then obviously some guy is not up in there.

Or as I joked to reaper, "Sure, she might be cheating. But if she is, at least he's not packing heat."

Also, they would buy me stuff. One girl said, "I got so mad at myself for buying you this shirt [hands me shirt]. We aren't even in a relationship!"

Women start spending money on you when you do it right.

By now you guys should've been with enough girls that you can tell when those labias have been unfolded.

Here's a hint: If those pupils aren't dilating when you go up in there, someone else has been keeping her warm.

I've had girls bleed. Is it from being to thick or from being too long and hitting the back by their cervix?

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

I think a lot of this comes to down to sex and how big your dick is etc.

If you are giving it to her better than other guys, she's going to be hounding you for dick.

Keep in mind, guys don't need a big dick to pickup girls. But, it definitely is going to make a difference if you want to keep them around. All of the actual "non-game" values matter a lot more after you've fucked a girl.

Sure their is relationship game, but being rich, attractive, tall, hung.. all that shit is going factor in greatly after that initial bang.

I'd bet the guys who are posting on this forum about girls going nuts for them after the first bang have thick cocks. This is the case for most of my player friends who have girls showering them with gifts like Ipads and even cars.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Vanilla sex with a guy is fungible. To a girl, "a cock is a cock," for the most part.

Once you start taking girls to her most primal self, other guys are going to bore her:

The 50 Shades of Grey series has sold over 70 million copies.

If you are not already tying girls up, choking them, leaving bruises on them from biting them...then you are late to the party.

I coincidentally had a girl text me that same thing today "a dick is a dick"

Quote: (08-16-2013 06:38 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

I think a lot of this comes to down to sex and how big your dick is etc.

If you are giving it to her better than other guys, she's going to be hounding you for dick.

Keep in mind, guys don't need a big dick to pickup girls. But, it definitely is going to make a difference if you want to keep them around. All of the actual "non-game" values matter a lot more after you've fucked a girl.

Sure their is relationship game, but being rich, attractive, tall, hung.. all that shit is going factor in greatly after that initial bang.

I'd bet the guys who are posting on this forum about girls going nuts for them after the first bang have thick cocks. This is the case for most of my player friends who have girls showering them with gifts like Ipads and even cars.

Even a 4 inch cock can hit the back of a girl's cervix if you position her right. Not sure if dick size is everything it's cracked up to be.

My dick is bigger than 4 inches, by the way, so it's not like I'm trying to defend the micropenis. I'm just saying if the big dick is so special because it can hit the back of a vagina, then it's not that special because a small dick can do the same thing.

Also, quality of sex may not be everything for some girls. For some girls it is, for some girls it isn't. Golddiggers especially - they will go with a guy just for the things he can provide.

There are girls who go months without sex. Attractive ones, even.

So I'm not sure why fidelity is so surprising. If a guy is the first person a girl has fucked in several months, why is she suddenly going to start jumping on strange cock?

Quote: (08-16-2013 09:31 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

There are girls who go months without sex. Attractive ones, even.

So I'm not sure why fidelity is so surprising. If a guy is the first person a girl has fucked in several months, why is she suddenly going to start jumping on strange cock?

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't be surprised any particular girl is being monogamous. What I find hard to believe is that over a lifetime of women not a single one strayed. Especially when some of them are actively dating other men (as reaper23 stated happens with his girls). The absoluteness of the statement makes me think that reaper23 probably isn't as good at detecting cheating as he thinks he is. That's not a dig on him, I don't think any man can know with 100% certainty that a girl isn't messing around.

Guys shouldn't get their egos wrapped up in girls monogamy - it can only lead to a fall.

Quote: (08-16-2013 09:22 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2013 06:38 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

I think a lot of this comes to down to sex and how big your dick is etc.

If you are giving it to her better than other guys, she's going to be hounding you for dick.

Keep in mind, guys don't need a big dick to pickup girls. But, it definitely is going to make a difference if you want to keep them around. All of the actual "non-game" values matter a lot more after you've fucked a girl.

Sure their is relationship game, but being rich, attractive, tall, hung.. all that shit is going factor in greatly after that initial bang.

I'd bet the guys who are posting on this forum about girls going nuts for them after the first bang have thick cocks. This is the case for most of my player friends who have girls showering them with gifts like Ipads and even cars.

Even a 4 inch cock can hit the back of a girl's cervix if you position her right. Not sure if dick size is everything it's cracked up to be.

My dick is bigger than 4 inches, by the way, so it's not like I'm trying to defend the micropenis. I'm just saying if the big dick is so special because it can hit the back of a vagina, then it's not that special because a small dick can do the same thing.

Also, quality of sex may not be everything for some girls. For some girls it is, for some girls it isn't. Golddiggers especially - they will go with a guy just for the things he can provide.

I think the thickness thing is the main factor. The guys I'm talking about are all part of the magnum club.

Not saying you need that- there's other guys I know who are part of the very good looking club who get these kinds of clinger girl relationships, but I've noticed that it's fat-D club that elicits this gifts and worship behavior from women.

Of course these cats also have very good game.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Bro, I once finished fucking a girl in the ass. Right after I rolled off her, her phone rang. She picked it up and spoke like nothing ever happened. I'm sure her boyfriend thought he had the greatest girlfriend in the world. After all, she picked up on the second ring!

Tell me, for such a man as experienced as yourself, hasn't a girl ever cheated with you?

Reading these quotes scars my soul a little when it comes to women, truth is best though. It used to be sad now it is just humorous.

Quote: (08-16-2013 10:36 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2013 09:22 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2013 06:38 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

I think a lot of this comes to down to sex and how big your dick is etc.

If you are giving it to her better than other guys, she's going to be hounding you for dick.

Keep in mind, guys don't need a big dick to pickup girls. But, it definitely is going to make a difference if you want to keep them around. All of the actual "non-game" values matter a lot more after you've fucked a girl.

Sure their is relationship game, but being rich, attractive, tall, hung.. all that shit is going factor in greatly after that initial bang.

I'd bet the guys who are posting on this forum about girls going nuts for them after the first bang have thick cocks. This is the case for most of my player friends who have girls showering them with gifts like Ipads and even cars.

Even a 4 inch cock can hit the back of a girl's cervix if you position her right. Not sure if dick size is everything it's cracked up to be.

My dick is bigger than 4 inches, by the way, so it's not like I'm trying to defend the micropenis. I'm just saying if the big dick is so special because it can hit the back of a vagina, then it's not that special because a small dick can do the same thing.

Also, quality of sex may not be everything for some girls. For some girls it is, for some girls it isn't. Golddiggers especially - they will go with a guy just for the things he can provide.

I think the thickness thing is the main factor. The guys I'm talking about are all part of the magnum club.

Not saying you need that- there's other guys I know who are part of the very good looking club who get these kinds of clinger girl relationships, but I've noticed that it's fat-D club that elicits this gifts and worship behavior from women.

Of course these cats also have very good game.

The 'other guy' in the OP has a thick dick (slut's own words) But he is a 2/10 and weighs 400lbs. Girth can easily be attained via jelqing. It's length that is harder to gain. If your packing at least 5.5-6 inches in length but your thick, you won't have issues.

Quote: (08-17-2013 12:50 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2013 10:36 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2013 09:22 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2013 06:38 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

I think a lot of this comes to down to sex and how big your dick is etc.

If you are giving it to her better than other guys, she's going to be hounding you for dick.

Keep in mind, guys don't need a big dick to pickup girls. But, it definitely is going to make a difference if you want to keep them around. All of the actual "non-game" values matter a lot more after you've fucked a girl.

Sure their is relationship game, but being rich, attractive, tall, hung.. all that shit is going factor in greatly after that initial bang.

I'd bet the guys who are posting on this forum about girls going nuts for them after the first bang have thick cocks. This is the case for most of my player friends who have girls showering them with gifts like Ipads and even cars.

Even a 4 inch cock can hit the back of a girl's cervix if you position her right. Not sure if dick size is everything it's cracked up to be.

My dick is bigger than 4 inches, by the way, so it's not like I'm trying to defend the micropenis. I'm just saying if the big dick is so special because it can hit the back of a vagina, then it's not that special because a small dick can do the same thing.

Also, quality of sex may not be everything for some girls. For some girls it is, for some girls it isn't. Golddiggers especially - they will go with a guy just for the things he can provide.

I think the thickness thing is the main factor. The guys I'm talking about are all part of the magnum club.

Not saying you need that- there's other guys I know who are part of the very good looking club who get these kinds of clinger girl relationships, but I've noticed that it's fat-D club that elicits this gifts and worship behavior from women.

Of course these cats also have very good game.

The 'other guy' in the OP has a thick dick (slut's own words) But he is a 2/10 and weighs 400lbs. Girth can easily be attained via jelqing. It's length that is harder to gain. If your packing at least 5.5-6 inches in length but your thick, you won't have issues.

I knew it.

The question becomes why would you want a girl around for too long anyway?

I get bored easily.

I need new levels to keep me excited. There's only so much kink etc.

I think the end-state for me and a girl is that she's available to me when and how I want her to be and doesn't make drama and knows her place in my pantheon of pussy.

That said, I'm still curious to see what you guys are finding snooping around on these girls' phones.

Please post specific examples.