What up Bricks.
1) A lot of the story is missing
a) why you living with 2 other couples?
b) where are their boyfriends in all of this?
c) what are you doing to get out of this situation?
2) the scenario - Do they smell beta?
Maybe, maybe not.
The real issue here is that they've sufficiently ground down their boyfriends and now they look @ you, the lone wolf as the next person to put under their thumbs. They generally do not have that fear of a strange man that they SHOULD have. It's one thing to nag your boyfriend, but this other dude? He might slap the shit out of you, and your weak ass boyfriend ain't gonna do shit about it. - that's what should happen, and that's what typically happens when you're at a bar, and your chick is half-way sensible. That dude might bump into her, but if she cares about you, she's not gonna get you into a fight.
But they're trying to beta-ize you, even if you aren't beta. In the dating context, the alpha things that attract her are the very things she'll try and destroy if she gets into a relationship with you - and then she'll leave you.
They may be doing this consciously, but I suspect that the feminine imperative is what is at work here. Something deeply disturbs them about living with an unattached guy - and maybe in their minds you need a woman to civilize you. There might even be some hidden sexual tension as well. This is part of the reason, I really don't blame women for being how they are. This is them. (Feminism though, that's some other shit, that ain't the typical female unconscious behavior on the individual level but something far more malevolent)
But throw in the "herd" mentality, if one goes against you, the other goes against you just so that their in accord. Maybe behind closed doors it's a different story. Girl B might think Girl A overstepped her bounds, but she's going to present a united front.
Also throw in the fact that their men aren't keeping them under control.
If my broad were to get angry with and try to control another man, IN MY PRESENCE AND IN MY HOUSE, I've really lost "hand". No other man should be able to pull her emotional strings like that. (that's the idea at least, the reality is that she's an open book to the best of us)
In this situation, if she's bothered by something that you did, she should tell her boyfriend, and HE should talk to you man to man. To voice her opinion on her own means that Her Boyfriend is put in a spot.
He can't back you up and still live with her, even though he wants to.
"I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU TOOK HIS SIDE! OMG, YOU ARE ALL THE SAME"
And God Forbid she says something like "this asshole tracks mud onto the carpet, RIGHT HONEY" - Then now you and him have potential beef.
This behavior is common with individual chicks. Throw in a 2nd chick and now you've got some hell on earth.
As to whether you are beta?
There's a commonly held belief in this version of the manosphere, that if you're Alpha enough a bitch just stays docile, cleaning house, cooking food, sucking dick. The only time you see that is in non-Western countries, and even then, those men all exist by the motto, "happy wife, happy life". It's like women were genetically designed to come into your life and think that they're supposed to shape you up. And the second they manage to bend you, they rule you, and get disinterested and go look for another dude to break.
This is what they all do to all men. If relationships are about compromise, best believe you are doing most of the compromising.
So you could be Alpha as fuck, her beta-izing mode will be triggered regardless.
3) As to how to handle the situation
a) Using female shaming language against her - Again, you need to be well versed in girl-ese and have strong frame to do this. But essentially, you're trying to make her hamster spin by using their language. I don't recommend this unless you're an expert. I certainly would not attempt it.
b) Approach the dudes - "Homey, handle your bitch" - You will be greeted with, "man I know dude, but fuck...I can't get away with shit and i'm fucking her..."
c) Fuck em - dismiss everything they say out of hand.
Them -"OMG, you left the chain off the lock, we coulda been raped by roaming Cubans"
You - "So"
d) Fuck em - actually sleep with them. - this may backfire in all sorts of ways, but sometimes some dick will shut the bitch up.
e) Imply that they both want to fuck you - "I don't ever see you get this worked up around your man, you tryna hit this?"
f) Jealousy I - Bring hot girls home regularly. Younger especially.
g) Jealousy II/Chess - One of them likes you more than other, play them against each other.
Girl A - "Why did you DVR that MMA Fight, you're such a violent misogynistic pig"
Girl B - "Yeah, why Bricks, I wanted to watch the Real Housewives of Sheboygan"
You - "Girl B, you always seem to follow girl A, like *insert some other incident unrelated to the DVR* - Does she control you?"
Everytime they throw something you DID, you ask them about who they ARE.
They focus on action, you focus on person.
Then approach them one by one and start sowing seeds of doubt.
Women are notoriously fickle about their friends. I'd say 90% of the guys I knew 20 years ago, I'm still cool with.
How many chicks can say the same about their girl friends?
But we all know the right answer is H.
H) You need to move the fuck out, ASAP.
Let us know how it turns out.
WIA
Quote: (07-24-2013 03:49 PM)Bricks Wrote:
Having a few issues at home recently. Live with 2 other couples long time friends.
I am finding that i am getting consistently challenged by one of the woman and the other one backs her up. Over all sorts of insignificant crap. The main instigator is an alpha female bitch personality. The only reason i notice this, is that it never happens to the other guys in the house.
My questions are why is this happening? Do they sniff beta on me?
I try not to get wound up but it seems so unnecessary it annoys me. The course of action i try to take but not always manage to follow is to just be nonchalant and not argue back. Whats the thought on managing this behavior?