Ask him if bar owners get lot's of trim.

When he says yes, tell him to open a poosy bar.

The other one is trying to chat up a girl in my office right now. " Is there a street corner I can meet you on" "You're no longer a cougar are you?"
"'Do you have a date with a 14 year old?" " Are you like Rose on two an a half men stalking me?""Do young girls dressed slutty turn you on?"

Brutal shit here and the only reason he's talking is because she's the skankiest slut that comes here.

Sometimes it takes an emotional shock to loosen up the blue pill choke hold - being served surprise divorce papers, a bad break up, wife's adultery, etc. This is the best time to introduce Red Pill wisdom to a man.

A guy (usually younger) just puttering through life getting the occasional 5 isn't really motivated to take the red pill. And his rationalization hamster tells him that all the attractive girls getting bedded by his Red Pill friend are skanks and sluts not worthy of his attention. This means that even leading by example won't work, very frustrating.

Frankly, I tend to associate with other guys with my point of view. When I'm around other guys still being choked by the blue pill, I don't even bring this stuff up because it's fruitless. Sad.

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The other one is trying to chat up a girl in my office right now. " Is there a street corner I can meet you on" "You're no longer a cougar are you?"
"'Do you have a date with a 14 year old?" " Are you like Rose on two an a half men stalking me?""Do young girls dressed slutty turn you on?"

Brutal shit here and the only reason he's talking is because she's the skankiest slut that comes here.
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My main man for several years was leading a double life. He was fucking up in the game so bad he was ashamed to ever have a convo about it. He would deflect and switch topics. He came clean one day that his "friend" (co-worker) was really his girlfriend and that he moved in with her and her KID months ago he bought her a car and was paying her bills and shit. It blew my fuckin mind. Among our other friends we'd talk about how we're not paying for anything. No trickin no simpin no drinks no dinners no trips no nothin! From the lip and not from the hip. He would cosign, but then here he goes with that shit. He was doing the exact opposite of everything. I put him on King Flex and he read the Art of Mackin. He copped to being a pushover like you all call blue pill (I know I've had my moments too but damn). We were in the spot one time and he snapped a picture of us fellas chillin and we asked what it was for. He said he his lady ("friend") really wanted to meet us and see how we looked. We never wanted to meet that broad unless he could show us pictures of her friends. He never did. Fast forward.

He started weasling out of hittin the town first with excuses and then none at all. He was gone. No call no show. I saw the dude a year or so later and he had his first child. I went on about my biz for a couple years and then I saw him again. This mofo now has 2 more kids and is married. I'm like damn wtf happened to you man. He could've told me anything... anything... ANYTHING but THAT. I just said well as long as he's happy (and I don't think he is). I told him about what I was trying to do in the game (graduate/GTFOH/travel/mack overseas/learn languages/stack bread/start a biz) and it was like I was dead to him. He's talkin about some construction paper with crayon scribbles his kids made on the fridge. I don't have time for that shit and I guess he doesn't have time for my shit. I was humble about it too. I'm no master of the game, but what's right is right. His role in the group was always the mediator and he smoothed things out. Our group went to hell after he disappeared because everyone else had strong personalities and wouldn't budge on disputes.

After all that I just keep my discussion of the game light.

Tried to explain this to my young cousin who's 21 and really should be ploughing the field with his cock. He wants the life, I'm waiting to see if he'll get back to me.

One of my best friends does this thing of falling in love almost instantly...he's actually got certain parts of his game down solid without calling it "game". I've told him about these forums and he scoffs, "Dude that shit's just weird." He's a fearless approacher and a pretty charming guy. He's interesting and well-travelled. However he's got a case of falling-in-love within a couple weeks, clings on hard, and freaks the fuck outta the girl.

He's been going through a few teenage girls. I'm actually pretty envious he has that kind of access. But instead of plowing through these girls and keeping a rotation, fucking their friends, going for threesomes, having fun with them, what does he do? Falls in love with them. WITH TEENAGE GIRLS. Can you imagine?

And he tells me this shit and it drives me nuts. I don't even bother commenting anymore. I just tell him, "Cool story, bro." He wonders why after a few weeks they bail and tell him not to call them anymore. After getting more details he'll tell me shit like he'd take them out shopping, take them out to fancy dinners, proclaim his undying love for them.

Quote: (11-19-2012 01:06 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

One of my best friends does this thing of falling in love almost instantly...he's actually got certain parts of his game down solid without calling it "game". I've told him about these forums and he scoffs, "Dude that shit's just weird." He's a fearless approacher and a pretty charming guy. He's interesting and well-travelled. However he's got a case of falling-in-love within a couple weeks, clings on hard, and freaks the fuck outta the girl.

He's been going through a few teenage girls. I'm actually pretty envious he has that kind of access. But instead of plowing through these girls and keeping a rotation, fucking their friends, going for threesomes, having fun with them, what does he do? Falls in love with them. WITH TEENAGE GIRLS. Can you imagine?

And he tells me this shit and it drives me nuts. I don't even bother commenting anymore. I just tell him, "Cool story, bro." He wonders why after a few weeks they bail and tell him not to call them anymore. After getting more details he'll tell me shit like he'd take them out shopping, take them out to fancy dinners, proclaim his undying love for them.

That deserves more than just a facepalm

Quote: (11-19-2012 01:06 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

I'm actually pretty envious he has that kind of access.

Where does he meet them?

I'm talking about girls 18 and over.

Quote: (11-19-2012 03:00 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (11-19-2012 01:06 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

I'm actually pretty envious he has that kind of access.

Where does he meet them?

I'm talking about girls 18 and over.

Without giving too much away (I might one day pull him to the dark side of RVF) let's just say he's involved in the educational system.

Sounds like another Mr. Powers

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher...00504.html

Quote: (11-19-2012 07:08 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Sounds like another Mr. Powers

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher...00504.html

Yep, that'll be him at that age.

i think your regular guy friends don't want to take your advice cause they view you as a scumbag screwing bunch of "easy deadbeat white thrash whores". here's why...

guys in general judge girls hardcore and have double standards. they associate high quality girl directly with her being hard to get / not promiscuous / etc. so for example that cute little suzy from their work who is little sweetheart star there and has orbiters kissing her ass in every department of the company, they view her as that amazing sophisticated woman and project all those qualities on her don't exist probably. why? just because they didn't see her making out with random player after 5-10 minutes of the interaction in a bar at night. once they saw their little suzy doing that they would be disgusted disappointed and mad at her labeling her as slut. they just don't know shit about women nature.

so while you swim in pool of warm pussy they view you drowning in a garbage. that's why they don't want to hear shit from you cause they envision themselves ending up with those fast easy skanks. especially if they clearly look for serious GF/wife. also your stories (i bet you told about some glorious pulls haha) only discourage them from listening to you more.

at least that's my take on it


PS. no no haha, i meant SUZY, random english name, it has nothing to do to that horrible song.

Quote: (11-20-2012 06:04 PM)XXL Wrote:  

i think your regular guy friends view you as a scumbag screwing bunch of skanks. here's why...

guys in general judge girls hardcore and have double standards. they associate high quality girl directly with her being hard to get / not promiscuous / etc. so for example that they view that cute little suzy from their work as that amazing sophisticated woman and project abstract qualities on her that may not exist at all. why? just because they didn't see her making out with random player after 5-10 minutes of the interaction in a bar. once they saw their little suzy doing that they would be disgusted disappointed and mad at her.

so while you swim in pool of warm pussy they view you drowning in a garbage. i think this is why they don't want to hear shit from you about getting "easy deadbeat white thrash whores". it's very common especially if they clearly look for something serious like proper GF/wife.

Suzy or suczki?

Quote: (11-12-2012 10:28 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

And I just don't understand why.

One of them that I hang with everyday girl told him she need space after 13 years so he's waiting. The dude won't roll with me at night for some reason and he's combating his loneliness buy hanging a couple nights a week in a sausage fest bar. I told him I can walk him through this entire process and even make his ex's hamster spin out of control.

Another one gets a number a couple weeks ago and I told him how to handle the interaction start to finish. What does he do? The exact opposite and calls her all the time ending up in total failure.

The last for today...I go on facebook and one of my best childhood friends is pedastalizing some Indonesian girl online she even has his last name in her profile. He sends her e-flowers every day and tells her he loves her every 5 minutes. I sent him a message "We need to talk buddy" I'm sure he's ending all his cash to her...

My advice, ignore them and let them be, I not telling you to ditch your friends el machanico, I am telling you to let them be because at this current time their is nothing you can do for them and that is because their head is caught up in the fog and they can't think straight, even if you told them 1000 times not to be a beta they are going to do so anyways.

Once you leave them alone and they keep getting rejected and by tons of women for being a beta chump, eventually they are going to look at you(whom I assume gets women on a regular basis) and say maybe I am doing something wrong, and they will ask you for advice, trust me this is coming from personal experience, at this point their is nothing you can do because they still think by some miracule that being a complete beta can get them the girl, once the finally realize that was retarded they will ask you for advice and that is when you can show them the right path, to pussy.

Quote: (11-21-2012 09:59 PM)Insignia Wrote:  

My advice, ignore them and let them be, I not telling you to ditch your friends el machanico, I am telling you to let them be because at this current time their is nothing you can do for them and that is because their head is caught up in the fog and they can't think straight, even if you told them 1000 times not to be a beta they are going to do so anyways.

Once you leave them alone and they keep getting rejected and by tons of women for being a beta chump, eventually they are going to look at you(whom I assume gets women on a regular basis) and say maybe I am doing something wrong, and they will ask you for advice, trust me this is coming from personal experience, at this point their is nothing you can do because they still think by some miracule that being a complete beta can get them the girl, once the finally realize that was retarded they will ask you for advice and that is when you can show them the right path, to pussy.

"Beta chumps" don't approach. They might get acquainted to few girls through social circle here and there and afraid of risking the friendship he will never show sexual interest, and the girl remains unaware of the fact that the guy has a dick. Betas hardly ever get rejected the way that we who go out pick up girls, do.

"Law 10: Infection: Avoid the Unhappy and Unlucky"

I agree with radio silence. If they saw value in your help, they would immediately bite. Maybe they see the light, maybe not. Let em figure it out alone.

ha. this reminds me of a friend who moved in with his girl he met off pof after 3 months. I warned him from the get go that he was acting like a beta bitch and it was a bad idea. Now they are broken up and he lives w her miserably in a one bedroom place because he is on the hook with the lease and cant afford to live elsewhere.

Quote: (11-12-2012 11:01 AM)ABDada Wrote:  

Haha, I love seeing the man-children of the world produce more fodder to serve my needs.

1. They'll be in debt over the pussy pedestal, so they'll work for you cheaper;
2. They'll remind women that there are so few good (alpha-behavior) men, so your value increases;
3. Free comedy

These aren't your friends, they're your beta orbiters. Make them do shit for you or cut them out.

This is what I am slowly starting to accept.
If they want to be hard headed dummies, then they can eat it.

This is going on in full force still to this day and made me want to update..

One dude has had a money meltdown and refuses to pay for anything. A girl (fat) asked him to hang out after a few dates and he said ok but I'm not spending any money or my gas.

The other is on a dryspell since this thread started and now he's asking me for advice. NOW!!! he works with me and sits next to me all fucking day and his stubborn ass is now asking me!!!

A girl driving an ice cream truck stopped at his house to look at his car and he gave her a hug before she left and made plans to visit him tonight. He text her today "Hi how are you are you keeping warm or do you need a hug" Right next to me he wouldn't listen.... Now she said she needs a miracle..2200 for dog surgery... He's freaked out and is going to leave his house so he misses the date!! lolol fucker is right next to me as I type this and wont fucking listen to me!!

edit: now he's saying that she has a "causes" page for her dog surgery but he can't risk he asking him for cash if he fucks her because of morals. Fucker thinks he's stealing pussy!!

^

It's fear mixed with laziness.

Change is hard.

You can't help somebody until he is ready to help himself.

el mech, what happened with the filipina girl!? the suspense is killing me