Just like scotian talks about going to some godforsaken -20 degree oilfield, San Francisco is the white collar equivalent. You come to San Francisco to get paid.

Anybody who cries, "it's so expensive there", never takes into account the income side of the equation. It's not how much everything costs. It's how much you make compared to how much everything costs. That's the only thing that matters with respect to personal finances.

The fact is that San Francisco is where the opportunity is if you're in tech, or if you want to be. There is no other city that comes close. The entire Bay Area is a massive, massive network effect of money, education, and technical talent.

A couple decades ago, the prevailing attitude by MBAs was that you could just outsource to India, or wherever, and hire engineers for pennies on the dollar. After all, they're just typists. Then after that stupid idea blew up enough times, people realized that engineers (as well as designers, project managers, etc.) have to be co-located. That's why there's been a massive rise in real estate prices in the Bay Area, because all these highly paid people have to be located in the same tiny area, next to all the venture capital money.

And in my estimation, it's only going to continue in that direction. Every other article nowadays is about remote work, but the reality is that projects at scale are done in-person. And the wealth is increasingly moving from smaller cities to large urban areas, especially San Francisco.

If a recession does hit, it'll hit everywhere else much more in the long term. Boom and bust cycles exacerbate the concentration of wealth.

Yes, San Francisco is not a good city for game. Just like a mining camp back in the mid-19th century was not a good place for game. Many forum members are making it work by adapting. They are going after FOB asians, focusing on college campuses, or staying within certain scenes that suit them like the Marina or the Mission. It is workable, and I don't like to see defeatism. But if you're not in tech or finance, or really like the area for some reason, I wouldn't recommend it.

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San Fran is a poo filled shitty, but even when I go there for work, I still get women approaching me. Same thing in Los Angeles. Hell I'm not that good looking either

I don't know if most guys who are not good looking or even average looking can relate to this sentiment. Girls regularly cold approach you? It seems that most guys on this forum, even if they have above average game, report that they have to put in significant work almost wherever they are. I'm not trying to contradict you, because I don't know what you look like, but this seems odd to me.

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I don't know where you guys go to in California, but status seeking fake people do not exist as far as I can see. And I'm now hanging in some moneyed circles to boot in Los Angeles of all places.

Ever been to the Bungalow in Santa Monica? You'll find plenty of them there. They most definitely exist, especially in Los Angeles. That's the home of people that lease BMWs and then drive them back to their shithole apartments. Maybe your status is really high, and you're just not perceiving it because you're on the same level as the people in these circles. And it wouldn't surprise me that people who are in that position would be pretty laid back and friendly. Why not be if they've already made it? It's often the people who are trying to ascend that social structure that can be really nasty.

I agree with you to an extent though. People make a big deal about how superficial places like LA are. There are plenty of cool people there, it's just a matter of which circles you choose to run in.

Quote: (01-16-2019 12:03 AM)Lampwick Wrote:  

Yes, San Francisco is not a good city for game. Just like a mining camp back in the mid-19th century was not a good place for game. Many forum members are making it work by adapting. They are going after FOB asians, focusing on college campuses, or staying within certain scenes that suit them like the Marina or the Mission. It is workable, and I don't like to see defeatism. But if you're not in tech or finance, or really like the area for some reason, I wouldn't recommend it.

Completely agree with this. Thankfully for my line of work, I found another city that suited me better.

There's nothing wrong with suggesting avoiding a city or pointing out flaws that a city has. I think most people here will agree that on a relative basis, SF is not the best place to live if one of your top priorities is game.

The issue is when people think that a situation is unsalvageable and suggest that if somebody lives in a city like San Francisco (or Portland, Seattle, etc), they are literally going to be jacking off every night or fucking 3s once a year. In reality, there are plenty of men getting laid with decent looking women in the Bay Area. If you end up there, you will just have to work harder to be one of them, go to the right areas, and find your niche, whether its in nightgame, online, or daygame at the yoga studios.

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San Fran is a poo filled shitty, but even when I go there for work, I still get women approaching me. Same thing in Los Angeles. Hell I'm not that good looking either

I don't know if most guys who are not good looking or even average looking can relate to this sentiment. Girls regularly cold approach you? It seems that most guys on this forum, even if they have above average game, report that they have to put in significant work almost wherever they are. I'm not trying to contradict you, because I don't know what you look like, but this seems odd to me.

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I don't know where you guys go to in California, but status seeking fake people do not exist as far as I can see. And I'm now hanging in some moneyed circles to boot in Los Angeles of all places.

Ever been to the Bungalow in Santa Monica? You'll find plenty of them there. They most definitely exist, especially in Los Angeles. That's the home of people that lease BMWs and then drive them back to their shithole apartments. Maybe your status is really high, and you're just not perceiving it because you're on the same level as the people in these circles. And it wouldn't surprise me that people who are in that position would be pretty laid back and friendly. Why not be if they've already made it? It's often the people who are trying to ascend that social structure that can be really nasty.

I agree with you to an extent though. People make a big deal about how superficial places like LA are. There are plenty of cool people there, it's just a matter of which circles you choose to run in.

So let's clarify a few things and I can talk to my own theories as to why I jive so well here. Hell, for all I know i'm running Ronald Reagan game.

I go to San Francisco for trade shows. I dress well, but we're not talking custom suited. I haven't worked out in 2 years, but my weight is consistent. I'm happily married, carry myself well, have solid friends, and feel like I live in paradise.

The last time I was in San Fran, this thick big tittied Jewish girl at an off conference site meeting took quite the fancy to me. If I was single, I would have smashed because why not, but I'm married and couldn't do that to my wife. She was the type that spent oodles of time traveling abroad. Let's not delude ourselves to the foreign disco sticks she was riding!

Let's clarify an interesting point: Being unavailable and above all happy drives women NUTS.

The girls that give me attention nowadays aren't worth the trouble. Some are decent looking, but I know deep down they would be shit partners. Most bitches can't come close to my wife's cooking, let alone everything else she does for me. Why would I toss this away for a lay that lasts like 10 minutes at best?

I have been to Bungalow and a few other places in the west end. I'm flattered you think my status is high, but it really isn't if you start to quantify standard status things. I get asked from people where I live and my answer is always the same, "Oh I live in North Hollywood and love it. It, like totally speaks to my inner valley girl!"

Always get a chuckle from this.

It's a mindset thing. I personally believe I truly live in paradise. Everything about this city jives with me. The weather, the roads, the culture, it's a dream. NoHo is also really affordable. Can't beat that!

I also get to drive my dream car here which is a classic Benz. Do you know that this piece of crap has stranded me twice now, was on the verge of critical engine failure up until fairly recently, and is technically in its mid 30s?

I couldn't afford to drive a car like that in the UK or even on the east coast. The damn thing looks so cool and is so much fun to drive.

Someone over New Year's remarked to me that I ask a lot of questions about people in that I get people talking about themselves more than I talk about me. Frankly, I don't think my life is all that interesting. I work from home, do sales, drive an old ass car that's more trouble than it's worth, and go to church on Sundays.

Everyone here has a story, loaded with drama. Suss it out of them!

Ironically, the hate people give San Francisco is precisely how I feel about Boston. Boston is truly the most miserable, hateful place in the entire world. It's practically purgatory and my style of conversation would leave people thinking, "What the f*ck is this guy asking me crap for?"

"To get to know you Masshole!"

Tl;Dr - how to make friends and influence people in LA and San Fran
1. Ask them questions about their lives. Speak 40% to people's 60%.
2. Drive a cool old ass car you're passionate about.
3. You could be living in a place like Boston or Toronto. Weather drives 75% of happiness.

If you want to work in finance you come to NYC, not San Francisco. I am not that familiar with the world of software engineering but it seems like talking to people in that field that Austin, Denver and Seattle are other alternatives to San Francisco and as much flak as those cities might get, they're still a better alternative. In fact a lot of software companies have branched out of Silicon Valley which scares me because they might bring the toxic tech culture with them, lord knows how bad it will get if San Francisco invades a game rich city like NYC.

Even reading through the thread, the guys who come to San Francisco's defense have been married guys not interested in game as much or guys who say it is good when game is not concerned. Now lets look at our target audience and the target audience for this forum in general, younger men that want to get laid and score. As much shaming as there has been towards such men, this is a game forum after all and a place where the whole concept of "poosy paradise" was invented.

I think if you are a young man in general, game should be in your top 5 priorities although it should not be the only one. In college I played it by the books and stuck to the academics and building the resume, it might have paid off but man am I having some serious regrets over what I missed out on. Similarly, if you are a younger guy, do not let morally self-righteous older folks make you feel guilty for wanting to make game one of your priorities.

Going back to the topic of San Francisco, it is flat out trash for game and young men in general.

Some will argue guys "make it work", yeah by going well below their weight class and below their league in a city where a 6 is spoiled like nowhere else in the world. A city where the party scene is abysmal and the quality soul sucking.

If you are a younger guy below 30, your best and most active years are better served outside of a city like San Francisco. Not only is the cost of living abnormally high but you also have to deal with a toxic social culture for young men in general. Some of your best years for getting out, running game and having fun are down the toilet in a city which doesn't have much going for it socially. Do not take the bait by people making you feel guilty for wanting to enjoy your youth and get laid by selling you on such a garbage city because of its "culture" and "career opportunities".

Stay the hell away from this dump unless you want to grow up to a life filled with regret.

Go to San Francisco once you are old with a family and past your prime, not in your younger fun years. Please stop selling this garbage location to clueless young men out there, it is a fucking dump.

To anyone that disagrees with me, if San Francisco is so great then why are its liberals infesting other places like Colorado, Austin and tons of other cities? If it is truly so great then stay there and keep your toxic Silicon Valley culture there as well.

Quote: (01-16-2019 04:49 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

If you want to work in finance you come to NYC, not San Francisco. I am not that familiar with the world of software engineering but it seems like talking to people in that field that Austin, Denver and Seattle are other alternatives to San Francisco and as much flak as those cities might get, they're still a better alternative. In fact a lot of software companies have branched out of Silicon Valley which scares me because they might bring the toxic tech culture with them, lord knows how bad it will get if San Francisco invades a game rich city like NYC.

Even reading through the thread, the guys who come to San Francisco's defense have been married guys not interested in game as much or guys who say it is good when game is not concerned. Now lets look at our target audience and the target audience for this forum in general, younger men that want to get laid and score. As much shaming as there has been towards such men, this is a game forum after all and a place where the whole concept of "poosy paradise" was invented.

I think if you are a young man in general, game should be in your top 5 priorities although it should not be the only one. In college I played it by the books and stuck to the academics and building the resume, it might have paid off but man am I having some serious regrets over what I missed out on. Similarly, if you are a younger guy, do not let morally self-righteous older folks make you feel guilty for wanting to make game one of your priorities.

Going back to the topic of San Francisco, it is flat out trash for game and young men in general.

Some will argue guys "make it work", yeah by going well below their weight class and below their league in a city where a 6 is spoiled like nowhere else in the world. A city where the party scene is abysmal and the quality soul sucking.

If you are a younger guy below 30, your best and most active years are better served outside of a city like San Francisco. Not only is the cost of living abnormally high but you also have to deal with a toxic social culture for young men in general. Some of your best years for getting out, running game and having fun are down the toilet in a city which doesn't have much going for it socially. Do not take the bait by people making you feel guilty for wanting to enjoy your youth and get laid by selling you on such a garbage city because of its "culture" and "career opportunities".

Stay the hell away from this dump unless you want to grow up to a life filled with regret.

Go to San Francisco once you are old with a family and past your prime, not in your younger fun years. Please stop selling this garbage location to clueless young men out there, it is a fucking dump.

To anyone that disagrees with me, if San Francisco is so great then why are its liberals infesting other places like Colorado, Austin and tons of other cities? If it is truly so great then stay there and keep your toxic Silicon Valley culture there as well.

I don't know much about San Fran but your post was real as fuck.

The forum is about getting pussy so that takes priority. I'm also regretting not getting laid enough during my early years 19-26. I'm almost 30 now and I've made up for it to some degree. but it's important to get pussy out of your system earlier so you feel like you've done it all before you settle down for sure.

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If you want to work in finance you come to NYC, not San Francisco.

Agreed. I was basically saying that you have to be in tech or finance to afford to live in San Francisco. Otherwise, you will be struggling.

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I am not that familiar with the world of software engineering but it seems like talking to people in that field that Austin, Denver and Seattle are other alternatives to San Francisco and as much flak as those cities might get, they're still a better alternative.

All of those cities are sausage fests too. Seattle may even be worse, since people don't go outside for nine months out of the year.

Plus, a lot of the tech opportunities in those cities are satellite offices for the big software companies. The opportunities are generally much more limited at satellite offices versus the Bay Area, which is usually where the headquarters reside.

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I think if you are a young man in general, game should be in your top 5 priorities although it should not be the only one.

I will say this. If you are young and starting a career in technology, you should look into getting a job at one of the FAANG (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google) satellite offices in NYC. In general, being in a satellite office, you may not progress as rapidly in your career as if you were in the Bay Area, but the NYC dating scene would be a good tradeoff. Plus, NYC just smashes all other US cities in terms of almost everything, except for weather.

Keep in mind though, not everyone has the skill level to get into one of those companies. And if you don't, the pool of potential options in NYC pales in comparison to the Bay Area. The number and quality of startups in the Bay Area provides much more opportunities for a broader range of skill levels.

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To anyone that disagrees with me, if San Francisco is so great then why are its liberals infesting other places like Colorado, Austin and tons of other cities?

Because they now have shitloads of money from working in the Bay Area and can now buy huge houses for peanuts. That's why.

Quote: (01-16-2019 09:04 PM)Lampwick Wrote:  

Because they now have shitloads of money from working in the Bay Area and can now buy huge houses for peanuts. That's why.

Actually, Chinese investors are buying up real estate and it causes prices to rise.

California has very high taxes. Even if you ton of money, a chunk of it would go to taxes because the state government likes to milk you for your money.

Quote: (01-16-2019 04:49 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

word vomit

Holy shit. You have serious issues with negativity. That makes what — 4 posts spewing hateful bile on a place you don't even live?

I wouldn't want to spend any time in your shoes.

As for myself, and all the rest of the guys in San Francisco that love living here, we'll continue to enjoy it.

a beer is enough,

That's just shitty advice

Any guy with his shit modertly together can come smash and grab in the Bay without issues

If you work in tech you owe it to youself to at least spend some time in the Bay if you treat your career seriously at all.

There are many high end girls that work all over SF and live in 4 chick deep 2 bedrooms to make things work. They all party hard and do hard drugs all weekend. They are starved for solid male attention because they only work around women and 80% of the males in the city are flamming.

If you step to them with any kind of technique they crack right open.

It is America TYOOL 2019, getting play in the states is really never an issue.

There are a lot of alternative and interesting scenes in the bay and ALL of them have fly girls tucked away. If you are at all interesting you can make friends and get some decent connects. If you know who is who and what is what then you can get around the city easy.

There is no super high end scene in the same way as NYC, LA and Vegas so it is mostly easy to crack. In the Bay guys worth a bil are the type to just hang out at an East Bay pub in sandles. Which can make it a playground for a young cat who is willing to shark a bit.

After a stint you might upgrade to another city but the yay area is a good early hunting ground.

Oh and if youre a tech guy then it is basically a mandatory stay.

Quote: (01-16-2019 09:04 PM)Lampwick Wrote:  

All of those cities are sausage fests too. Seattle may even be worse, since people don't go outside for nine months out of the year.

Plus, a lot of the tech opportunities in those cities are satellite offices for the big software companies. The opportunities are generally much more limited at satellite offices versus the Bay Area, which is usually where the headquarters reside.

The other cities are much more doable than San Francisco and from my experience with people from Seattle as well as having short visits there, it isn't just the gender ratio that makes a city bad. San Francisco has an elitist culture that you do not get to the same degree in other cities, that makes it even worse. The 49er comment was about that very thing and what makes me sick about the culture of the city is the hypocrisy involved in it.

I'll admit NYC has an elitist culture too but the people there own up to their douchebaggery and almost pride off of it, what you see is what you get. San Francisco elitism is masked in moral self-righteousness but a deeper look shows the hypocrisy involved in it. Similar to a lot of tech companies preaching equality and social justice but then you find they rarely practice what they preach, case in point the shit Amazon and AirBnB put Roosh through.

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word vomit

Holy shit. You have serious issues with negativity. That makes what — 4 posts spewing hateful bile on a place you don't even live?

I wouldn't want to spend any time in your shoes.

As for myself, and all the rest of the guys in San Francisco that love living here, we'll continue to enjoy it.

Well that's too fucking bad snowflake, this isn't your safe space.

That's great you love your fucking city, keep living there but I will caution all young men against moving there and speak the truth about it being horrible for game on a fucking game forum. While you're at it, do you mind telling your locals to stay there?

I genuinely mean this, please keep your superior culture and folks in your own fucking city. Don't move out east, stay out west and keep your lovable radical feminism, aspie software engineers, hideous looking women and overcompensating tech bros right where they are at. I speak on behalf of Austin when I say this, no need to tell me how awesome your city is, remind your fellow residents and tell them to stop infesting other cities and trying to change the culture. Thank you very much!

Very sad when bitterness goes to a man's head so much he has to post copious amounts of rants in a forum about a variety of topics, but that's fine. You have your reality, and we have ours.

On a positive notice, I am still having fun gaming and living in SF after almost five years, and have enjoyed meeting likeminded guys. If anyone is reading this and would like to meet up sometime, shoot me a PM!

Quote: (01-17-2019 05:22 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

a beer is enough,

That's just shitty advice

Any guy with his shit modertly together can come smash and grab in the Bay without issues

If you work in tech you owe it to youself to at least spend some time in the Bay if you treat your career seriously at all.

There are many high end girls that work all over SF and live in 4 chick deep 2 bedrooms to make things work. They all party hard and do hard drugs all weekend. They are starved for solid male attention because they only work around women and 80% of the males in the city are flamming.

If you step to them with any kind of technique they crack right open.

It is America TYOOL 2019, getting play in the states is really never an issue.

There are a lot of alternative and interesting scenes in the bay and ALL of them have fly girls tucked away. If you are at all interesting you can make friends and get some decent connects. If you know who is who and what is what then you can get around the city easy.

There is no super high end scene in the same way as NYC, LA and Vegas so it is mostly easy to crack. In the Bay guys worth a bil are the type to just hang out at an East Bay pub in sandles. Which can make it a playground for a young cat who is willing to shark a bit.

After a stint you might upgrade to another city but the yay area is a good early hunting ground.

Oh and if youre a tech guy then it is basically a mandatory stay.

We know women from SF are ugly and have deranged SJW, feminist beliefs. But if your selling point is that they’re degenerate drug addicts, too, then Man Fran is somehow even worse than I thought.

I’d honestly rather live in Syria than San Francisco.

How on earth is drug abuse an attractive behavior? A girl that does hard drugs is repulsive and pathetic.

Quote: (01-17-2019 09:38 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  

We know women from SF are ugly and have deranged SJW, feminist beliefs. But if your selling point is that they’re degenerate drug addicts, too, then Man Fran is somehow even worse than I thought.

I’d honestly rather live in Syria than San Francisco.

How on earth is drug abuse an attractive behavior? A girl that does hard drugs is repulsive and pathetic.

Sorry to burst your bubble bro, but in basically every big city in the US, the hottest women who are down for an ONS with a random tend to disproportionately be the ones who are racking lines and popping mollys on the weekend. Before somebody says "well I know one girl who's hot and doesn't even drink", I'm saying this is a trend, not an unequivocal fact. This is true in any big city that I have spent time in, whether it is SF, LA, Miami (a city that I recall you like based on other threads), Vegas, wherever.

I'm not going to say that its "attractive behavior", but that's the truth. If you're looking for quick bangs, chances are you'll be dealing with those type of girls.

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Quote: (01-17-2019 09:38 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  

We know women from SF are ugly and have deranged SJW, feminist beliefs. But if your selling point is that they’re degenerate drug addicts, too, then Man Fran is somehow even worse than I thought.

I’d honestly rather live in Syria than San Francisco.

How on earth is drug abuse an attractive behavior? A girl that does hard drugs is repulsive and pathetic.

Sorry to burst your bubble bro, but in basically every big city in the US, the hottest women who are down for an ONS with a random tend to disproportionately be the ones who are racking lines and popping mollys on the weekend. Before somebody says "well I know one girl who's hot and doesn't even drink", I'm saying this is a trend, not an unequivocal fact. This is true in any big city that I have spent time in, whether it is SF, LA, Miami (a city that I recall you like based on other threads), Vegas, wherever.

I'm not going to say that its "attractive behavior", but that's the truth. If you're looking for quick bangs, chances are you'll be dealing with those type of girls.

Don't even bother arguing. Check his post history - his first post was in this thread. He basically registered to talk smack about San Francisco despite not even living here.

It never fails to amaze me how much anger guys have bottled up inside them on this forum...

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Quote: (01-17-2019 09:38 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  

We know women from SF are ugly and have deranged SJW, feminist beliefs. But if your selling point is that they’re degenerate drug addicts, too, then Man Fran is somehow even worse than I thought.

I’d honestly rather live in Syria than San Francisco.

How on earth is drug abuse an attractive behavior? A girl that does hard drugs is repulsive and pathetic.

Sorry to burst your bubble bro, but in basically every big city in the US, the hottest women who are down for an ONS with a random tend to disproportionately be the ones who are racking lines and popping mollys on the weekend. Before somebody says "well I know one girl who's hot and doesn't even drink", I'm saying this is a trend, not an unequivocal fact. This is true in any big city that I have spent time in, whether it is SF, LA, Miami (a city that I recall you like based on other threads), Vegas, wherever.

I'm not going to say that its "attractive behavior", but that's the truth. If you're looking for quick bangs, chances are you'll be dealing with those type of girls.

That is a valid point. That being said, if that’s his main selling point, then that proves how dreadful a city it is. I could find many amazing things to mention about, say, Miami, before “Well, at least they sure love hard drugs!”

Quote: (01-17-2019 09:12 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Very sad when bitterness goes to a man's head so much he has to post copious amounts of rants in a forum about a variety of topics, but that's fine. You have your reality, and we have ours.

On a positive notice, I am still having fun gaming and living in SF after almost five years, and have enjoyed meeting likeminded guys. If anyone is reading this and would like to meet up sometime, shoot me a PM!

You seem very confused.

You literally just said SF was the worst city for game in North America one month ago, lol.

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I know I have said a lot of shit about San Francisco but I will summarize it with this, if game is one of the top priorities in your life then do not go there. If your priorities in life involve things like a career or maybe helping raise funds for the Democratic party, maybe consider that but that is where I will end it. I think anyone telling young men to head to the city is lying to them and being dishonest if those young men are single and have game on their minds. Every piece out there talking about why San Francisco sucks for game is on point.

If you are one of these enlightened wizards who has ran through his fair share of women and is now done with game, dating and does not care for that one bit this is a different conversation.

If you ever had questions about just how insane the people in San Francisco - and the city government - actually are, look no further than this uncuckable man's 4-year, 1.2m USD battle to try to build an apartment complex that social justice warriors have blocked ever step of the way due to the fact they want to keep the Mission District "diverse."

I don't understand Corsega. Why can't you just admit SF sucks and move on? Some people want to discuss the specifics.

Quote: (01-18-2019 12:33 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

I don't understand Corsega. Why can't you just admit SF sucks and move on? Some people want to discuss the specifics.

Because these days it is more and more taboo to talk about putting game as a priority in life, it is immature and frowned-upon to admit as a young man you want to get laid and you have to wear the mask of being noble or holier than thou as you look down upon those countless sleazebags who seem to want to admit to themselves that perhaps they want to enjoy their youth and get their dicks wet. You see young man, it is a sin for you to want to get laid, can't you understand that there is more to life than game?

I mean you should be perfectly okay with not being naked in bed with a fit attractive woman who has an ounce of femininity left in her, in fact to want such a thing makes you obsessed with pussy, I mean its just pussy bruh. Like don't you have other priorities in life bruh? Fuck getting laid and running game, life doesn't revolve around that. Report your not getting laid and not fucking fit attractive women as you go on to chasing everything else in life while posting a fucking game forum.

Focus on all other shit, move to San Francisco because it is the only city that offers you career opportunities and lose these toxic thoughts of wanting to sleep with hot girls. Don't you know those rainbow haired hambeast feministas working at Starbucks need love too?

Please go give them some love Catalyst, you don't be such a pussy-obsessed tool whose life revolves around game mate. It all feels the same when the lights go out, you don't need that sexy Latina in Miami or that sexy Euro in NYC to keep you happy. I mean grow up bruh, stop like objectifying women, its a crime!

In all honesty Corsega, I do love a lot of your posts but whole-heartedly disagree with you on San Francisco being a city a young single man needs to be in. Don't take any of this personally.

Getting laid by fly girls just isnt an issue there.

Get good.

"Before somebody says "well I know one girl who's hot and doesn't even drink","

That girl is just lying cause these cats would judge her. She still coming to my spot to take lines once she's done giving you the run around on Tinder.

Quote: (01-17-2019 10:29 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  

Quote: (01-17-2019 09:12 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Very sad when bitterness goes to a man's head so much he has to post copious amounts of rants in a forum about a variety of topics, but that's fine. You have your reality, and we have ours.

On a positive notice, I am still having fun gaming and living in SF after almost five years, and have enjoyed meeting likeminded guys. If anyone is reading this and would like to meet up sometime, shoot me a PM!

You seem very confused.

You literally just said SF was the worst city for game in North America one month ago, lol.

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Of course it's the worst city for Game in North America (by a long shot). I still have a blog post about this.

Yet I still do fine here.

And I attribute that to taking action to improve myself and my game instead of bitching about it endlessly on an internet forum.

True mastery means accepting your circumstances working within them.

I don't complain. I simply accept reality on reality's terms.

Quote: (01-16-2019 12:03 AM)Lampwick Wrote:  

Anybody who cries, "it's so expensive there", never takes into account the income side of the equation.

The fact is that San Francisco is where the opportunity is if you're in tech, or if you want to be. There is no other city that comes close. The entire Bay Area is a massive, massive network effect of money, education, and technical talent.

Median income in the bay area = 120k

Median home price in the bay area (between SF and San Jose along the peninsula, and Hayward to San Jose, and Marin County) = 1.1 Million

Median rent in the bay area (between SF and San Jose along the peninsula, and Hayward to San Jose, and Marin County) = 3k/month

There is no way a tech or finance worker can afford to live in the Bay Area. Unless they live with multiple roommates, live 1-2 hours away from work, or move to cheaper cities like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Seattle, Dallas, or Houston. Plus California has the highest income tax in the country.

Quote: (01-18-2019 07:31 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

Quote: (01-16-2019 12:03 AM)Lampwick Wrote:  

Anybody who cries, "it's so expensive there", never takes into account the income side of the equation.

The fact is that San Francisco is where the opportunity is if you're in tech, or if you want to be. There is no other city that comes close. The entire Bay Area is a massive, massive network effect of money, education, and technical talent.

Median income in the bay area = 120k

Median home price in the bay area (between SF and San Jose along the peninsula, and Hayward to San Jose, and Marin County) = 1.1 Million

Median rent in the bay area (between SF and San Jose along the peninsula, and Hayward to San Jose, and Marin County) = 3k/month

There is no way a tech or finance worker can afford to live in the Bay Area. Unless they live with multiple roommates, live 1-2 hours away from work, or move to cheaper cities like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Seattle, Dallas, or Houston. Plus California has the highest income tax in the country.

This is simply not true. While the median rent is 3k, you can find studios from 2k-2.5k in San Francisco proper, and even cheaper right over the bridge in Oakland, or to the south in South San Francisco / Daly City, both of which are not even close to an hour away.

Even so, many tech workers do actually make enough to afford 3k+ in rent (even 4k+). Doing the math, 3k a month at 40x (a common way of computing an upper bound of how much you can afford to spend on rent) is 120k, which many people in tech make. Sure, it's expensive, but many people can still afford. That being said, if you are not in a cushy job, you are very likely struggling to live here.