This response will be harsh but needs to be said. Also, threads like this spread nothing but hate when started with "Again, don't go to India" when clearly that's shitty advice and the content of it in reality alludes more to "Again, don't go to India
for girls." Some people just can't help themselves.
Quote: (12-30-2017 10:20 AM)Scorpio25 Wrote:
So you are run away case. Read the newspapers more or maybe travel to India little more to know that beef is illegal in almost half of North India.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news/na...70177.html
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/man-foun...ws-1774453
And your culture sucks and that's the main reason you ran out with your tail between your legs.
I suggest you start being more patriotic to your adopted country rather than being a traitor who is using the facilities of America but hope to live in india. It's people like you who will sell out America at the drop of a hat, you need to be watched.
I have better things to do than deal with traitors.
So you and testos111 know, I didn't run from India. I was a child at the age of 12 that was brought here by parents who wanted to give me a better life. I didn't have a choice. I had a tough time due to the culture change. I wanted to go back to India for years but had no choice, accepted it and moved to adopt this country as my own. Here's the whammy though.... I changed and grew to adopt this country as my own, and eventually....
I am a United States Navy veteran with an honorable discharge. I served in the US military for 8 years after high school. So, I can hold my own as a patriot of the U.S.A. I'm proud to be a citizen of this country and considered it a privilege to have fought for it.
Please take your moral arrogance and virtue signalling somewhere else. Nice try genius!
Quote: (12-31-2017 04:34 AM)testos111 Wrote:
Quote: (12-30-2017 09:58 AM)Cobra Wrote:
Quote: (12-30-2017 04:42 AM)Scorpio25 Wrote:
Very obviously you are an Indian bigot based outside, with an American passport for all you know. This kind cannot take any criticism and go into some kind of pathetic personal insult mode. Hey if you love your country so much. Why don't you go back and live there? I heard they kill people who eat beef, Is it true?
Here we go, another bad ass.
I save personal insults only for those that have truly decided they are going to hate on my culture without any openness to see otherwise. That's hate and given I AM Indian, of course I take it personally, and I have no problem defending what is personal.
I don't hate the American culture and neither am I comparing it. I'm just defending my own culture of origin which I haven't lost.
This bullshit about me being a traitor "just because I moved," is amateur schoolyard insult. I mentioned why I moved. Irish people don't stop being Irish once they immigrate to the US. It's fine to pursue a better life and still stay true to your roots. That doesn't make you a traitor. As a matter of fact, we need more of this support to ward off race and culture trolls like yourself.
There you go. Your "defense" of your culture is based on personal emotion, not logic.
The very fact that you're getting all flustered about someone calling you a traitor probably showcases the guilt you feel of leaving a messed up culture and country and taking the easy way out by escaping to the west.
You are attacking my culture, and consequently who I am; so of course I'm taking it personally. However, I am as calm as a Cobra, so I know how to separate the two. Go ahead and read my response to your troll buddy above. I have no reason to go back to India. You still don't understand my point about separating country from culture. As Agastya explained there are many South Asians that celebrate their culture where they move. They move for their family and kids because India truly doesn't have the infrastructure or economy to get them success. That doesn't mean they need to throw their culture away and they can still be nationalistic towards their adopted culture. Take me for example. I didn't come here by choice but I am very American, including not only being a citizen but also having enjoyed serving in its military (very enjoyable and positive 8 years by the way). I hope it makes sense.
Quote: (12-31-2017 04:34 AM)testos111 Wrote:
For a person like me, that would be the ideal thing to do and that's what I'm trying to do myself.
A person like you is not only arrogant but ignorant of who you really are. I'm not trying to insult you; just pointing out your flaws so you can help yourself. I don't care that you are escaping India. Many do that for different reasons. However, it's your reason that I disagree with and consider disingenous. Why? Because instead of moving out and taking your culture with you (which is pretty normal), you are trying to leave your culture behind forcefully, just take yourself and somehow hope that you will become westernized, make lots of white friends and bang hot white girls. Trust me, it won't happen in that manner. The world has changed and no one likes a traitor to their own culture. As much as some people on the forum shit on Indian culture there are a bunch of Indian guys that own their culture who wil run circles around you. Believe it or not, genius, you are Indian and will ALWAYS be Indian. Just like me. Own it now and make it easier on yourself instead of trying to be someone else you're not.
I can just imagine you talking to a girl and when she asks where you're from, you commence shitting on your culture. It never works. My advice: be proud of your culture, be cool and they will sleep with you. Yet, instead, if you will try to be white, it will not work and you will be wacking off every night. As someone who has been a try-hard before, I can speak to it.
Quote: (12-31-2017 04:34 AM)testos111 Wrote:
But for a person like you who's still under a strong bullshit patriotic illusion, the guilt you feel is because deep down, you are extremely aware of your hypocrisy of defending your home country when you yourself are not living in it.
Again, I'm defending the Indian culture since it's a part of me. I'm not defending India as a country. Understand the difference. On top of that, like I said, I am an American patriot and from the perspective of patriotism, this country is my priority even though culturally, I'm pretty Indian also. It's okay to do that.
Quote: (12-31-2017 04:34 AM)testos111 Wrote:
And I've seen you always dodge the main question we keep asking you - Why don't you come back to India if you love it so much?
If you really liked India, there's absolutely nothing in the west that can tie someone down. It only happens the other way round.
You and your buddy are asinine to suggest that we are "runaway" cases when scenarios are more complicated and have nothing to do with patriotism. I have no desire to come back to India as there are many cultural aspects of "being" Indian I already enjoy here that are Indian as well as having built a foundation of friends, family and kids here. As I explained before, in addition to this, I have become very American and accepted and adopted this country, so why would I go back? That said, I'm still not going to stand around when someone shits on my culture and then wants me to help them escape it. I have better things to do.
Quote: (12-31-2017 04:34 AM)testos111 Wrote:
You have a good reputation here so it makes it all the more shocking to me as to why a supposedly red-pilled person would give a hoot in hell about something as "conditioned" and beta as nationalism, especially when he's not even living in the country that he is trying to defend.
Instead, you can help out people here by making threads on hacks of getting out of India so all those facing the harsh realities here can have something to hope and look forward do.
Here is where you are wrong. Nationalism was never beta. India was never beta. I grew up in a conservative manner in India and was red pilled there to start with. I didn't become liberal until I came here to the USA. I realized how much of a mistake this was and now follow a more conservative nationalistic approach. This forum is full of generally white/black/brown nationalists. They are not beta. If this confuses you, it's because you're not there as far as understanding it yet.
Also, I don't mind helping people leave India. As a matter of fact, I have helped many people assimilate to the culture here. Within this category of people there are three types of people: IRT (Indian Race Trolls) that believe that Indian men/people are the best and do really weird shit that I can't be around; normal people that take constructive criticism, improve themselves, own up to their heritage and work hard; and the arrogant kind like yourself that believes that North America is some kind of liberal mecca where they will love you if you become westernized. The only way the latter would happen effectively is if you would have immigrated here at a very young age (like me) or born here. If it's neither, you will have a very tough time. Stark reality, unfortunately. When you're ready to realize it, we here at the forum will welcome you with open arms.