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Again, don't go to India.

Again, don't go to India.

One of the weirdest moments that I had when I been using my default line on Tinder.
My opener is..."Hey, xxx (their name), I checked your thing and you seem alright."
This been working pretty well for everyone except Indian chicks.

By all means, that doesn't mean that I swipe on Indian girls, I rarely do.
However, this girl replies back with, "Sure thanks, but I am pretty sure you are not alright." <- lol...

I usually get "haha, thanks" or "haha, thanks...I guess? lol", "just alright? [Image: wink.gif]" from girls who are "normal"...

Indian chicks have 0 game and they just don't have any clue how to move the convo forward...

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
- Heat

"That's the difference between you and me. You wanna lose small, I wanna win big."
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-22-2017 02:21 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

One of the weirdest moments that I had when I been using my default line on Tinder.
My opener is..."Hey, xxx (their name), I checked your thing and you seem alright."
This been working pretty well for everyone except Indian chicks.


Indian chicks have 0 game and they just don't have any clue how to move the convo forward...

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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-22-2017 03:28 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

Quote: (12-22-2017 02:21 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

One of the weirdest moments that I had when I been using my default line on Tinder.
My opener is..."Hey, xxx (their name), I checked your thing and you seem alright."
This been working pretty well for everyone except Indian chicks.


Indian chicks have 0 game and they just don't have any clue how to move the convo forward...

[Image: 2sknbep.jpg]

Agreed, that's not the strongest opener.

However, Indian girls are notoriously bitchy so I'm not surprised by these responses.
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-22-2017 03:42 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Agreed, that's not the strongest opener.

However, Indian girls are notoriously bitchy so I'm not surprised by these responses.

Any suggestions on openers?
The only lays I gotten were race opener, "So are you philipino?" or something like that, but I think the girl already liked me based on my bio/profile.
Another chick I got lay was she opened me and pursued me pretty directly. Lol...

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
- Heat

"That's the difference between you and me. You wanna lose small, I wanna win big."
Reply

Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (11-10-2017 09:51 PM)Denzel Wrote:  

I like Indian people...they have been great friends to me in North America.... I like Indian cuisine ...spicy, very tasty....but let me write this clearly "don't go to India for gaming." This comes from a guy who got his Indian flag from a big-breasted 7, and whom Indian women living in North America finds handsome (more on this point below). I hope there are other forum members who have excellent game, and figured out India. I would like to listen and learn. Anyway, here is my story....

I spent more than a month in India, and stayed in more than three cities. Full disclosure.... I was working hard, and my logistics were impossible to bring a woman to my place--for reasons I do not want to disclose-- but every time I went out, I looked for opportunities to game Indian women but could not find much opportunity....so I gamed Japanese, Taiwanese, Ukrainian tourists instead. In most cases, Indian women were below my standards, and in rare cases when they were above, it seemed impossible to penetrate to their circle. The only gaming opportunity was at work where there was at least one interested woman but I did not want to shit where I eat. She was a 6 after all so it would not worth it. She kept sending me IOIs during my stay which I ignored.

If you go to Delhi, check Hauz Khas to game tourists. This is the place to be. Museums and tourist attractions are also good place to game tourists.

One of my biggest surprises in Delhi was seeing colored-eyed "Caucasian" Indians. I was told that they were from regions close to Himalaya.

Goa was nice but I went there to chill in a hotel for a few days. I was hoping to game hotel guests but they were old tourists (daaa, how many youngs can afford an upscale hotel), and none were worth to game. I think I went to Goa in the low season. At least, I enjoyed my vacation.

So how did I get my Indian flag? Not in India. I got it in Singapore from a coffee house day game. A highly educated woman in her late 20s working in finance. I still remember the breasts [Image: biggrin.gif] . I could have SNL but she was busy on that night. On our first date, I took her to a place in Clarke Quay, and she was all over me while dancing within 15 minutes so I asked "Should we go to my place or your place?" We went to her place [Image: biggrin.gif] . After sex, during my usual interrogation of why she slept with me, she told me "how can I be with a guy like you". This was obvious given how she made it easy for me. She was not the first Indian woman to like my physical appearance. I have been approached by Indian woman in North America (NA) before although they are not naturally forward (how many women are forward anyway). I especially remember one which I later learned that she was the daughter of a very rich industrialist in India. She was not beautiful but attractive in ways I can't explain. However, the rich brat pissed me off, and I ditched her. There was another one whom I met briefly in a night club in NA. We figured out that we have a common Indian male friend. A few days later, Indian male friend told me that she wants to talk to me. I understood that she wants to go out with me. As a gentleman I went out with her although she was not my type, and did not sleep with her although she waited in my car for a long time to kiss her when I gave her a ride to her place.

I wrote these not to brag but to make a point that even a guy, who is considered to be handsome by Indian women, could not figure out India.

I have not done proper night gaming in India by going to clubs although I like it, mainly due to my logistics. I went to Hauz Khas bars at night though. Admittedly, this is a big weakness in my conclusion of "don't go to India for gaming."

Would I visit India again? I might but to do some more sight seeing, and if I know that I will get better logistics. Would I be successful? I could get one or two but I would not bet on it. I would rather go there with a girl, or mainly game tourists. Second time to India is way way down in my list at any rate.

So, any of you figured out India? If so, kudos to you, and let us enlighten with your wisdom.

Denzel.

Is there a specific type or style that they like? I bet they like the  good white boy with a preppy style and silky hair.

Some of them are beautiful but the culture is so beta...I am too straightforward for them I think.
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Again, don't go to India.

I guess most Indian girls don’t even sleep with their husband but rather emasculate him. For most Indian girls there is just no sex life.

Good news is that most nightclubs are at hotels. Figure out which one is hip.

Look like you have money and a story to back up. Don’t be afraid to approach mixed groups. Indian guys will not be aggressive.

Hope for the best...that has worked for me a few times but ratios are rough.

Generally Indian chicks are much more open outside India - Dubai, KL, Singapore- even Sri Lanka.
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Again, don't go to India.

Ran into a girl or two from India here in Scandinavia, but it was pre game so I f*cked up both encounters (I actually thought one of them would not like me as Im blue eyed, blond regular white guy lol.

Dont know alot about the region, heard the upper class broads there are really geneticly (mostly) of Persian descent as the eyes confirm this aswell.

•Can imagine how unattractive the female turists there are, all hairy hippies.
•They should be atainable in Canada and the west easier (If they stop aborting female unborn babies)
•I mean we're all different but there are alot better warm places with easier girls *cough* SEA *cough*
.
Just my two cents
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Again, don't go to India.

Been to India on holiday with my wife. no gaming at all.
However when I went out during the day with some friends we had , playing basketball , some girls seemed to overlook at men from their dormitory window and gave us fresh looks.
It all sounded 1930 in west and was kind of refreshing.

India has many despicable aspects but I was impressed by their millenary culture . If you make an effort , it is a very interesting country. For gaming , I haven't tried it but I would say that it requires specific skills and that it is not the best place.
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-22-2017 02:21 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

One of the weirdest moments that I had when I been using my default line on Tinder.
My opener is..."Hey, xxx (their name), I checked your thing and you seem alright."
This been working pretty well for everyone except Indian chicks.

By all means, that doesn't mean that I swipe on Indian girls, I rarely do.
However, this girl replies back with, "Sure thanks, but I am pretty sure you are not alright." <- lol...

I usually get "haha, thanks" or "haha, thanks...I guess? lol", "just alright? [Image: wink.gif]" from girls who are "normal"...

Indian chicks have 0 game and they just don't have any clue how to move the convo forward...

I'm glad someone pointed this out and I can completely relate to the awkwardness you must have felt.

This social ineptness of Indian girls is exactly why I want to move the fuck out of this country.

In order to make sense of why majority of Indians are boring and dumb. you have to understand something which is often not talked about.

Which is that India is a place where emotional expression is repressed as much as sex.

By emotional expression I mean expressing things that make a smart personality like being witty, having a sense of humor, exhibiting a playful arrogance, etc. Anyone possessing these qualities is usually looked upon as someone who's "trying to show off".

Basically majority of the Indians want everyone else to be as boring and straight-forward as them.

For instance, if you greet someone with a "How are you doing?" (since they won't be able to comprehend "Howdy"), in 90% of the cases you'll get a boring reply like "fine" or "good" and that's it. There be no attempt at using the brain to make the reply a bit creative and witty. So most of the times you'll feel you're having a conversation with a kid.

And that's exactly what Indian women are. Immature kids trapped inside an adult body.

A typical Indian woman grows up in such a protected environment (family) that all hopes of intellectual development (not to be confused with academic achievement) are completely squashed right from the start.

Indian girls are brought up with just one major goal to pursue: MARRIAGE.

Conversations about marriage are the ONLY time I see an Indian girl come alive. It's so hard-wired that it makes having any sort of relationship here almost impossible unless the guy is in for marriage too. The only women I see here who go into dating without the idea of getting married are the ones who usually have just had a divorce and are in a relationship to "escape" from their current "misery". But even there you can be rest assured that she is more motivated towards setting herself up for a second marriage than investing energy in the current relationship.

All this leads to a very unrounded, boring and timid personality. An existence where just the basic child-like pleasures are enough and there is no craving for higher intellectual goals.

A typical Indian women's day goes in the following activities:

1. Going to work, which is basically done as an obligation until marriage.
2. Eating unhealthy "chaat" and oil-filled food at road-side joints. (ever wondered why an Indian dusky woman's skin never looks as shiny as that of a South american one?)
3. Going for over-the-top Bollywood musicals (they pass as films here). Most of these flicks are oriented towards the plot of wedding/marriage/romance, further strengthening her desire to "get settled".
4. Sitting with their moms and screening guys for marriage.
5. Learning the tools of the wedding trade - making the right "chapati", dressing the "appropriate way", etc etc.

They are too lazy to hit the gym or even groom themselves properly.

So as a result of all this, what you get is probably the least desirable, in most cases ugly looking, socially awkward, timid and unadventurous, insufferably boring and emotionally unintelligent three year old dolls who have nothing to do in life but to pass time till they get married.

Yes, there are some good ones but majority of them are smart enough to see how everything works here and are quick to fuck off abroad.
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Again, don't go to India.

In India, can you still ask strangers to be an incarnation of God for you?
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-28-2017 04:50 AM)testos111 Wrote:  

Quote: (12-22-2017 02:21 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

One of the weirdest moments that I had when I been using my default line on Tinder.
My opener is..."Hey, xxx (their name), I checked your thing and you seem alright."
This been working pretty well for everyone except Indian chicks.

By all means, that doesn't mean that I swipe on Indian girls, I rarely do.
However, this girl replies back with, "Sure thanks, but I am pretty sure you are not alright." <- lol...

I usually get "haha, thanks" or "haha, thanks...I guess? lol", "just alright? [Image: wink.gif]" from girls who are "normal"...

Indian chicks have 0 game and they just don't have any clue how to move the convo forward...

I'm glad someone pointed this out and I can completely relate to the awkwardness you must have felt.

This social ineptness of Indian girls is exactly why I want to move the fuck out of this country.

In order to make sense of why majority of Indians are boring and dumb. you have to understand something which is often not talked about.

Which is that India is a place where emotional expression is repressed as much as sex.

By emotional expression I mean expressing things that make a smart personality like being witty, having a sense of humor, exhibiting a playful arrogance, etc. Anyone possessing these qualities is usually looked upon as someone who's "trying to show off".

Basically majority of the Indians want everyone else to be as boring and straight-forward as them.

For instance, if you greet someone with a "How are you doing?" (since they won't be able to comprehend "Howdy"), in 90% of the cases you'll get a boring reply like "fine" or "good" and that's it. There be no attempt at using the brain to make the reply a bit creative and witty. So most of the times you'll feel you're having a conversation with a kid.

And that's exactly what Indian women are. Immature kids trapped inside an adult body.

A typical Indian woman grows up in such a protected environment (family) that all hopes of intellectual development (not to be confused with academic achievement) are completely squashed right from the start.

Indian girls are brought up with just one major goal to pursue: MARRIAGE.

Conversations about marriage are the ONLY time I see an Indian girl come alive. It's so hard-wired that it makes having any sort of relationship here almost impossible unless the guy is in for marriage too. The only women I see here who go into dating without the idea of getting married are the ones who usually have just had a divorce and are in a relationship to "escape" from their current "misery". But even there you can be rest assured that she is more motivated towards setting herself up for a second marriage than investing energy in the current relationship.

All this leads to a very unrounded, boring and timid personality. An existence where just the basic child-like pleasures are enough and there is no craving for higher intellectual goals.

A typical Indian women's day goes in the following activities:

1. Going to work, which is basically done as an obligation until marriage.
2. Eating unhealthy "chaat" and oil-filled food at road-side joints. (ever wondered why an Indian dusky woman's skin never looks as shiny as that of a South american one?)
3. Going for over-the-top Bollywood musicals (they pass as films here). Most of these flicks are oriented towards the plot of wedding/marriage/romance, further strengthening her desire to "get settled".
4. Sitting with their moms and screening guys for marriage.
5. Learning the tools of the wedding trade - making the right "chapati", dressing the "appropriate way", etc etc.

They are too lazy to hit the gym or even groom themselves properly.

So as a result of all this, what you get is probably the least desirable, in most cases ugly looking, socially awkward, timid and unadventurous, insufferably boring and emotionally unintelligent three year old dolls who have nothing to do in life but to pass time till they get married.

Yes, there are some good ones but majority of them are smart enough to see how everything works here and are quick to fuck off abroad.

Here we go again. We have a bad ass over here.

Dude, again, aren't you Indian? I've been through this in other posts of yours where you continue to hate on your own culture and ethnicity.

India has its problems as I sure as hell know from growing up there in the 80's and then visiting occasionally since then. However, the problem was never with social engagement with others or tradition. I have enjoyed myself around younger Indians especially middle class and above. They have absolutely no problem making friends although they do not engage people in the same way Americans do (eg small talk). Scandinavian cultures are somewhat similar in this regard. Of course we don't hate on them becauase, first of all it's not a bad thing and next of all their women are pretty.

As far as Marriage? Are you kidding me? You have a bunch of western white guys screaming for help out here because women are not as feminine and marriage minded as they want. You on the other hand describe a country where it's still important, yet cannot help your liberal tendency to spit on it. I'm assuming you would rather have liberal minded women that sleep around, ride the carousel and hit the wall at 30 when no one will marry them like in the USA. Come on dude.

India is a conservative society still. Its problems are infrastructure, health, education and upward mobility as you almost described. However, let's separate that from the conservative nature and behavior of its people. With all its problems, I'm actually glad it keeps its culture somewhat intact even though it's been infiltrated by liberal influences like yours.

As far as the women I met there especially the younger ones, are some of the most caring, social and feminine I have ever seen. I actually spent time with them. You on the other hand appear to have no facts but are rather drawing on your own hate than true perspective. Women in India are affected by poverty and culture mostly. The ones with more money are better looking more liberal (but still much more conservative in general than their western counterparts). The ones that are poorer are just more conservative and not as pretty. Now, I'm speaking about Indian girls from India. The ones that grew up in the west are just no good liberal princesses that are just as try hard as their male counterparts like yourself who spit on their culture. Feel free to date any of them.

I grew up in a traditional India and actually learned my red pill values growing up. They unfortunately were buried by western culture when I moved here at the age of 12. My father worked and my mother was a home maker. I played with other kids in the street and didn't watch much TV or video games. Women were feminine and served their husbands. Men did the heavy lifting. Sure there was poverty and nutrition was sub par but a lot of that is on a steady improvement. Check out the bollywood actors/actresses of today versus 20+ years ago.

I have no doubt you are smart. The problem I have with you is that you are a borderline race troll to be spitting on your own culture jumping on the bandwagon wirh other try hards that don't know better. Difference is that you know better but choose to ignore it.
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Again, don't go to India.

Yeh.. Like he said... Don't go to India if you want casual and frequent pussy. Simple as that.
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-28-2017 08:13 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

Quote: (12-28-2017 04:50 AM)testos111 Wrote:  

Quote: (12-22-2017 02:21 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

One of the weirdest moments that I had when I been using my default line on Tinder.
My opener is..."Hey, xxx (their name), I checked your thing and you seem alright."
This been working pretty well for everyone except Indian chicks.

By all means, that doesn't mean that I swipe on Indian girls, I rarely do.
However, this girl replies back with, "Sure thanks, but I am pretty sure you are not alright." <- lol...

I usually get "haha, thanks" or "haha, thanks...I guess? lol", "just alright? [Image: wink.gif]" from girls who are "normal"...

Indian chicks have 0 game and they just don't have any clue how to move the convo forward...

I'm glad someone pointed this out and I can completely relate to the awkwardness you must have felt.

This social ineptness of Indian girls is exactly why I want to move the fuck out of this country.

In order to make sense of why majority of Indians are boring and dumb. you have to understand something which is often not talked about.

Which is that India is a place where emotional expression is repressed as much as sex.

By emotional expression I mean expressing things that make a smart personality like being witty, having a sense of humor, exhibiting a playful arrogance, etc. Anyone possessing these qualities is usually looked upon as someone who's "trying to show off".

Basically majority of the Indians want everyone else to be as boring and straight-forward as them.

For instance, if you greet someone with a "How are you doing?" (since they won't be able to comprehend "Howdy"), in 90% of the cases you'll get a boring reply like "fine" or "good" and that's it. There be no attempt at using the brain to make the reply a bit creative and witty. So most of the times you'll feel you're having a conversation with a kid.

And that's exactly what Indian women are. Immature kids trapped inside an adult body.

A typical Indian woman grows up in such a protected environment (family) that all hopes of intellectual development (not to be confused with academic achievement) are completely squashed right from the start.

Indian girls are brought up with just one major goal to pursue: MARRIAGE.

Conversations about marriage are the ONLY time I see an Indian girl come alive. It's so hard-wired that it makes having any sort of relationship here almost impossible unless the guy is in for marriage too. The only women I see here who go into dating without the idea of getting married are the ones who usually have just had a divorce and are in a relationship to "escape" from their current "misery". But even there you can be rest assured that she is more motivated towards setting herself up for a second marriage than investing energy in the current relationship.

All this leads to a very unrounded, boring and timid personality. An existence where just the basic child-like pleasures are enough and there is no craving for higher intellectual goals.

A typical Indian women's day goes in the following activities:

1. Going to work, which is basically done as an obligation until marriage.
2. Eating unhealthy "chaat" and oil-filled food at road-side joints. (ever wondered why an Indian dusky woman's skin never looks as shiny as that of a South american one?)
3. Going for over-the-top Bollywood musicals (they pass as films here). Most of these flicks are oriented towards the plot of wedding/marriage/romance, further strengthening her desire to "get settled".
4. Sitting with their moms and screening guys for marriage.
5. Learning the tools of the wedding trade - making the right "chapati", dressing the "appropriate way", etc etc.

They are too lazy to hit the gym or even groom themselves properly.

So as a result of all this, what you get is probably the least desirable, in most cases ugly looking, socially awkward, timid and unadventurous, insufferably boring and emotionally unintelligent three year old dolls who have nothing to do in life but to pass time till they get married.

Yes, there are some good ones but majority of them are smart enough to see how everything works here and are quick to fuck off abroad.

Here we go again. We have a bad ass over here.

Dude, again, aren't you Indian? I've been through this in other posts of yours where you continue to hate on your own culture and ethnicity.

India has its problems as I sure as hell know from growing up there in the 80's and then visiting occasionally since then. However, the problem was never with social engagement with others or tradition. I have enjoyed myself around younger Indians especially middle class and above. They have absolutely no problem making friends although they do not engage people in the same way Americans do (eg small talk). Scandinavian cultures are somewhat similar in this regard. Of course we don't hate on them becauase, first of all it's not a bad thing and next of all their women are pretty.

As far as Marriage? Are you kidding me? You have a bunch of western white guys screaming for help out here because women are not as feminine and marriage minded as they want. You on the other hand describe a country where it's still important, yet cannot help your liberal tendency to spit on it. I'm assuming you would rather have liberal minded women that sleep around, ride the carousel and hit the wall at 30 when no one will marry them like in the USA. Come on dude.

India is a conservative society still. Its problems are infrastructure, health, education and upward mobility as you almost described. However, let's separate that from the conservative nature and behavior of its people. With all its problems, I'm actually glad it keeps its culture somewhat intact even though it's been infiltrated by liberal influences like yours.

As far as the women I met there especially the younger ones, are some of the most caring, social and feminine I have ever seen. I actually spent time with them. You on the other hand appear to have no facts but are rather drawing on your own hate than true perspective. Women in India are affected by poverty and culture mostly. The ones with more money are better looking more liberal (but still much more conservative in general than their western counterparts). The ones that are poorer are just more conservative and not as pretty. Now, I'm speaking about Indian girls from India. The ones that grew up in the west are just no good liberal princesses that are just as try hard as their male counterparts like yourself who spit on their culture. Feel free to date any of them.

I grew up in a traditional India and actually learned my red pill values growing up. They unfortunately were buried by western culture when I moved here at the age of 12. My father worked and my mother was a home maker. I played with other kids in the street and didn't watch much TV or video games. Women were feminine and served their husbands. Men did the heavy lifting. Sure there was poverty and nutrition was sub par but a lot of that is on a steady improvement. Check out the bollywood actors/actresses of today versus 20+ years ago.

I have no doubt you are smart. The problem I have with you is that you are a borderline race troll to be spitting on your own culture jumping on the bandwagon wirh other try hards that don't know better. Difference is that you know better but choose to ignore it.

Cobra, like I mentioned in another forum where we had our disagreements; apart from the fact that you're well repped here so obviously are contributing in a positive way on the forum, the main reason I don't want to argue with you is because you are NOT IN INDIA.

That very aspect makes all your pro-India arguments baseless. You keep on advocating the virtues of Indian culture while sitting in the west. Why don't you come back if you like it so much?

And yes, you're quite right that I don't care about opining against the Indian culture since I prefer stating the truth over protecting my country because of some patriotic illusion.

It's easy to talk from there when I'm the one who is actually facing the harsh realities of this country. Again, I respect you for what you have done to this forum but unless you are living in India, my opinion, by default, weighs way more heavily than yours.

That'll be that from my side.
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Again, don't go to India.

Testos: Wanted to comment here because of some thinking I've been doing today, not because I've got a dog in this fight. I'm not Indian or in India, in fact I don't particularly care about India as countries where most people don't drink alcohol or eat meat don't particularly appeal to me.

Here's the thing, though: Self-criticism, whether directed at oneself or one's culture, is a good thing. It's what separates a person or a culture to improve, and in my opinion largely what separates men from women and Western culture form the rest. But it's a good thing UP TO A POINT.

Because: what is a cuck? This is what I was thinking about day. Ultimately, a cuck is someone who DOESN'T ROOT FOR HIS OWN TEAM. It's a man who undermines and talks shit about other men to ingratiate himself with women. It's a man who undermines and talks shit about his own culture to show what an enlightened person he is. It's a man who talks about "heteronormativity" as if being a homo is just as healthy and sound as being straight.

I have no doubt things in India are shitty, frustrating, and fucking infuriating for a smart, red-pill guy such as yourself. But find it in you heart to root for your own team. Even if there's nothing to love about contemporary India, there must be something in that ancient civilization to give you a sense of pride and dignity.
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-28-2017 08:13 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

Here we go again. We have a bad ass over here.
Dude, again, aren't you Indian? I've been through this in other posts of yours where you continue to hate on your own culture and ethnicity.
India has its problems as I sure as hell know from growing up there in the 80's and then visiting occasionally since then. However, the problem was never with social engagement with others or tradition. I have enjoyed myself around younger Indians especially middle class and above. They have absolutely no problem making friends although they do not engage people in the same way Americans do (eg small talk). Scandinavian cultures are somewhat similar in this regard. Of course we don't hate on them becauase, first of all it's not a bad thing and next of all their women are pretty.
As far as Marriage? Are you kidding me? You have a bunch of western white guys screaming for help out here because women are not as feminine and marriage minded as they want. You on the other hand describe a country where it's still important, yet cannot help your liberal tendency to spit on it. I'm assuming you would rather have liberal minded women that sleep around, ride the carousel and hit the wall at 30 when no one will marry them like in the USA. Come on dude.
India is a conservative society still. Its problems are infrastructure, health, education and upward mobility as you almost described. However, let's separate that from the conservative nature and behavior of its people. With all its problems, I'm actually glad it keeps its culture somewhat intact even though it's been infiltrated by liberal influences like yours.
As far as the women I met there especially the younger ones, are some of the most caring, social and feminine I have ever seen. I actually spent time with them. You on the other hand appear to have no facts but are rather drawing on your own hate than true perspective. Women in India are affected by poverty and culture mostly. The ones with more money are better looking more liberal (but still much more conservative in general than their western counterparts). The ones that are poorer are just more conservative and not as pretty. Now, I'm speaking about Indian girls from India. The ones that grew up in the west are just no good liberal princesses that are just as try hard as their male counterparts like yourself who spit on their culture. Feel free to date any of them.
I grew up in a traditional India and actually learned my red pill values growing up. They unfortunately were buried by western culture when I moved here at the age of 12. My father worked and my mother was a home maker. I played with other kids in the street and didn't watch much TV or video games. Women were feminine and served their husbands. Men did the heavy lifting. Sure there was poverty and nutrition was sub par but a lot of that is on a steady improvement. Check out the bollywood actors/actresses of today versus 20+ years ago.
I have no doubt you are smart. The problem I have with you is that you are a borderline race troll to be spitting on your own culture jumping on the bandwagon wirh other try hards that don't know better. Difference is that you know better but choose to ignore it.

I agree with everything you are saying. I have encountered two types of guys who hate on India. Some guys just want to smash pussy. They hate India because it's hard to do that, because the women are feminine and family centric.

Now, with white western guys there is this cultural thing. Many of them WANT to marry within their own group. The resent the fact that their women are the worlds biggest whores. They hate on India because they are JEALOUS. Also, because there is this tendency to believe that Indians are racist and would not marry a western guy.

In my experience dealing with expat Indians... the women are very marriage minded and family centric... until they get married. Lots of the guys they marry are extreme Betas... some would be Omegas in another culture. Married expat Indian women are a fucking goldmine for Alpha guys who can work social circle game.
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Again, don't go to India.

India's is one of the most boring, crowded, filthy and disgusting places to visit. I really wonder why any white person would visit this useless country. And the only Indians who love India left the country long time ago and would never want to go back and live there ever. Honestly wouldn't want even my enemies to visit that shit hole, where they kill you for eating beef !!
There are so many more wonderful countries to visit. Give India a pass at all costs.
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Again, don't go to India.

I'd rather go back to Djibouti....
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-28-2017 05:24 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

I agree with everything you are saying. I have encountered two types of guys who hate on India. Some guys just want to smash pussy. They hate India because it's hard to do that, because the women are feminine and family centric.

Now, with white western guys there is this cultural thing. Many of them WANT to marry within their own group. The resent the fact that their women are the worlds biggest whores. They hate on India because they are JEALOUS. Also, because there is this tendency to believe that Indians are racist and would not marry a western guy.

In my experience dealing with expat Indians... the women are very marriage minded and family centric... until they get married. Lots of the guys they marry are extreme Betas... some would be Omegas in another culture. Married expat Indian women are a fucking goldmine for Alpha guys who can work social circle game.

Indian women are feminine? Please go to SEA to see what an ACTUAL feminine girl looks like. No one is jealous of India, trust me. I went there once and vowed never to set foot in it again. Shitty infrastructure, homeless people everywhere, and low average talent.

American born Indians are different, and hail from the upper crust of Indians and would gladly bang a few westernized Indians.
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Again, don't go to India.

More try hard comments. Great. It's like going to Baltimore or South side of Chicago and saying America sucks. Here's some initial advice: set better expectations on travel, do better research and plan better. That will save you from heartache not only in India but anywhere.

If I could, in India, have a great standard of living AND infrastructure AND still enjoy a conservative culture and its people AND the "very few" women that are quality, I would move in a heartbeat! I didn't come here to the USA by choice, but I would still choose standard of living and infrastructure in the USA over the remaining items in India. I'm just being honest. OP's issue is that I'm choosing not to be in India and commenting on how one should act if living in India. That is an interesting one. So.....

Here's my counterpoint: Let's take India out of the equation for a second. I would not complain about the country I live in, whichever it may be. That happens to be the USA for me at this point. As an armed forces veteran of THIS country, I am proud to be its citizen and am loyal to it first. Being loyal to your country whether adopted or born in is respectable. THIS is the value I'm challenging. I don't think I need to move to India to challenge this.

As for the remaining forum members, you guys need better tour guides or just need to set better expectations when travelling. If you were going for girls, I sure as fuck don't understand how you ended up there of all places you could; and if you did, how you ended up in the shittiest parts of India, AND apparently forgot to enjoy the same EXACT things other tourists come repeatedly to enjoy (AGAIN, not girls).

It's like being in the mood for Sushi, driving over to the gas station to get some (GAS station) and then complaining that the Sushi is no good.

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Again, don't go to India.

I have never really tried to do pickup in India. I got plenty of matches on Tinder in Delhi, and hooked up with two girls from India, one in the states and one in Nepal. The country is not conducive to pickup at all -- the infrastructure in the big cities, the family-oriented culture, the heat, etc make India utterly terrible for trying to lay random women. Even when I actually did hook up with Indian girls, the experience was far from pleasant. They can be incredibly timid, shy, physically weak, and unnecessarily bitchy/childish. I personally have run into some fairly attractive Indian girls, and get pretty decent interest from them in return, but I will agree that they are not exactly easy to deal with.

India will also get a bad rap for having ugly women, but even this isn't really true anymore. In Delhi, I saw hundreds of very attractive Indian women, many with beautiful aquiline features, several with light skin and blue or green eyes. Middle-class and upper middle class women in large Indian cities can definitely be good looking. Even in poorer Muslim areas I still saw plenty of cuties. I also saw a lot of good looking women in Ladakh, a Himalayan region in the far north of India, and in Nepal, which has a nice mix of Indians and East Asians. Pickup in South Asia isn't bad because of women's looks, it'll be hard because of environmental factors, as I stated above.

It's definitely possible to meet and bang women in India, but actively going out and looking for casual sex there is not going to go very well. In India, trying to smash involves as many negatives as it does positives. Who wants to try running street game in a crowded ass bazaar in 115 degree weather? On girls surrounded by friends and family? Where in the world would this be worth anyone's time?

But in my opinion, travel is about far more than just trying to fuck as many girls as possible. The most beautiful and poignant moments of my life were not spent daygaming or grinding on drunk women in clubs, nor were they spent trying to shore prostitutes in the Dominican Republic. They were spent viewing gorgeous scenery, experiencing the hospitality of other people, and learning about myself. Vast areas of the planet won't be good for pickup for one reason or another, but they absolutely can still offer you a great travel experience.

Don't go to India for girls. Go for this:

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or this three-thousand year old temple carved out of rock:

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or for fantastic wildlife viewing:

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India's poor reputation also comes from the fact that things like this are not well known. A lot of Americans only know about India through Slumdog Millionaire or Reddit comments, while the few who actually make it there end up staying in huge cities and never properly see the country.

In twenty or thirty years, I think India can clean up its act. It's already drastically cleaner and nicer than it was in the 90's. Its problems are more fixeable than some other nations -- there are no serious political conflicts (like in the Middle East or Africa), people are fairly proud of their roots and culture (unlike Europe), and family structures/spirituality are strong (unlike the U.S). The biggest problems associated with living there will be linguistic (English proficiency is actually not that great, many people prefer their native languages) and environmental (extremely hot weather).
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Again, don't go to India.

I love this debate I wonder who is right please continue I can learn about India without the pain of traveling there I love it.

Indian girls have big breast and are very attractive. So motherly and feminine.

First time I read they are like children please give us more information.
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Again, don't go to India.

Most of the posts which are "pro india" and beautiful india nonsense are by Indians who have settled in US or Europe and will never spend more than 10 days there without an aquafina bottle in hand (cause the water is usually mixed with sewage).
"Child like" is the wrong word to use for Indian women , it's more like immature and unprofessional. Don't go to India for women. In fact there is nothing to goto india for anything, unless you are a backpack hippie or a geriatric.
You get amazing castles and sceneries in Europe in a more cleaner and hygienic environment.
You want the real india feel? Watch slumdog millionaire.
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-30-2017 02:10 AM)Scorpio25 Wrote:  

Most of the posts which are "pro india" and beautiful india nonsense are by Indians who have settled in US or Europe and will never spend more than 10 days there without an aquafina bottle in hand (cause the water is usually mixed with sewage).
"Child like" is the wrong word to use for Indian women , it's more like immature and unprofessional. Don't go to India for women. In fact there is nothing to goto india for anything, unless you are a backpack hippie or a geriatric.
You get amazing castles and sceneries in Europe in a more cleaner and hygienic environment.
You want the real india feel? Watch slumdog millionaire.

Have you ever lived there or spent substantial time there? I understand that a brief visit to Mumbai or Bangalore could leave you with a very negative impression of the country. Posts like this are how I felt about the country as a kid, but I also hadn't seen more than very specific parts of it. Most of the country is actually nothing like this, especially more rural/nature regions like the Himalayas.
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Again, don't go to India.

Quote: (12-30-2017 02:10 AM)Scorpio25 Wrote:  

Most of the posts which are "pro india" and beautiful india nonsense are by Indians who have settled in US or Europe and will never spend more than 10 days there without an aquafina bottle in hand (cause the water is usually mixed with sewage).
"Child like" is the wrong word to use for Indian women , it's more like immature and unprofessional. Don't go to India for women. In fact there is nothing to goto india for anything, unless you are a backpack hippie or a geriatric.
You get amazing castles and sceneries in Europe in a more cleaner and hygienic environment.
You want the real india feel? Watch slumdog millionaire.

Childlike is what I call this post; biased emotional diatribes like this when you have only made 3 posts on the forum make you look like a 13 year old homosexual or a woman. Let us know which one.
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Again, don't go to India.

Very obviously you are an Indian bigot based outside, with an American passport for all you know. This kind cannot take any criticism and go into some kind of pathetic personal insult mode. Hey if you love your country so much. Why don't you go back and live there? I heard they kill people who eat beef, Is it true?
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