Quote: (01-24-2018 08:59 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

I wish people would stop using the term alt right. I'm not sure who came up with it, I think it was a website or something back in 2011, but it has clearly been taken over by the media to use as a slur to literally everyone who is right wing but not a cuckservative. Especially if that person comes from alternative media and is under 50.

They are all 'alt right', we are all 'alt right' to them. So the best thing to do is to stop giving that term any more power and stop using it.

Everyone who has been labelled 'alt right' rejects it, except for Richard Spencer and Red Ice they may have even come up with it. So whatever, let them have their term. But realise that's all it is, an ad hominem attack synonymous to racist. There's no point trying to use it to define groups honestly anymore.

Also, any news on the guy who got attacked?

Personally, I could care less if it's used as an ad hominem attack. It's an effective way to differentiate oneself from cuckservatives and the equally cucked new right.

I'm really past the point of "you're a racist" accusations even registering anymore. Any white man that doesn't want to see the Western world overran is a Nazi in their eyes anyhow so I relish the role of being the monster they fear.

Quote: (01-24-2018 09:07 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Richard Spencer came up with Alt Right and it is his (bowel) movement and his website. The Alt Right, Antifa, Leftist militias, and right slanted militias are all well infiltrated by Government informants and many of their thought leaders are likely Government agents.

And what's your point?

Radical movements have always been infiltrated and monitored by the powers at be. There were British sympathizers amongst the revolulationaries.

Doesn't make the cause any less just.

The fact is no matter what you call yourself, the deep state will print a T-shirt with your brand on it and send one of their agents to your first public gathering waving a Nazi flag.

You can't control the narrative. Only who you support.

Both of you are supporting my point.

The Alt-Right is Richard Spencer's term. He can have it. No one else wants it anyway. The media tried to put it on everyone who follows alternative right leaning media but I haven't seen anyone come out and say yes I'm alt right.

If you say you're alt-right, you just mean you're part of a movement led by Richard Spencer. And if you let the media define you as alt right, you're letting the media push their narrative that there's a huge evil group called the alt right and at the centre of it this evil Nazi called Richard Spencer who is the leader.

When it's not true at all, most of us had never heard of him until the media made him famous with that fake nazi salute story. Just using that term gives the narrative credibility.

Differentiate from cuckservatives by outgrouping them, not yourselves. It's so easy to trigger them by just telling them that they're really lefties.

Quote: (01-24-2018 09:38 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Both of you are supporting my point.

The Alt-Right is Richard Spencer's term. He can have it. No one else wants it anyway. The media tried to put it on everyone who follows alternative right leaning media but I haven't seen anyone come out and say yes I'm alt right.

If you say you're alt-right, you just mean you're part of a movement led by Richard Spencer. And if you let the media define you as alt right, you're letting the media push their narrative that there's a huge evil group called the alt right and at the centre of it this evil Nazi called Richard Spencer who is the leader.

When it's not true at all, most of us had never heard of him until the media made him famous with that fake nazi salute story. Just using that term gives the narrative credibility.

Differentiate from cuckservatives by outgrouping them, not yourselves. It's so easy to trigger them by just telling them that they're really lefties.

The alt right is just a new spin on white nationalism. It's a more succinct and palatable term. And I think the idea behind it was that it would bring more disillusioned conservative and right wingers into the fold.

Unlike some members on this forum, I have no problem with Richard Spencer. He's been consistently and publicly espousing the same views for over a decade. So if he's a government plant, that has to be the longest undercover operation in history.

Cernovic, and other alt light figureheads seem to envy the mainstream media coverage he gets. The fact is he's a more interesting character than they are.

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:05 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 09:38 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Both of you are supporting my point.

The Alt-Right is Richard Spencer's term. He can have it. No one else wants it anyway. The media tried to put it on everyone who follows alternative right leaning media but I haven't seen anyone come out and say yes I'm alt right.

If you say you're alt-right, you just mean you're part of a movement led by Richard Spencer. And if you let the media define you as alt right, you're letting the media push their narrative that there's a huge evil group called the alt right and at the centre of it this evil Nazi called Richard Spencer who is the leader.

When it's not true at all, most of us had never heard of him until the media made him famous with that fake nazi salute story. Just using that term gives the narrative credibility.

Differentiate from cuckservatives by outgrouping them, not yourselves. It's so easy to trigger them by just telling them that they're really lefties.

The alt right is just a new spin on white nationalism. It's a more succinct and palatable term. And I think the idea behind it was that it would bring more disillusioned conservative and right wingers into the fold.

Unlike some members on this forum, I have no problem with Richard Spencer. He's been consistently and publicly espousing the same views for over a decade. So if he's a government plant, that has to be the longest undercover operation in history.

Cernovic, and other alt light figureheads seem to envy the mainstream media coverage he gets. The fact is he's a more interesting character than they are.

Richard Spencer is batshit insane, and you would be wise to steer far clear of him. He once was an interesting character, but that is no longer the case. He is not a government plant, he is simply a narcissist driven mad by the very media attention you believe is a good thing. And really, you couldn't be more wrong. Ten years ago, he thought Jews were great and was engaged to a Chinese woman.

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:16 PM)helmutschmidt31 Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:05 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 09:38 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Both of you are supporting my point.

The Alt-Right is Richard Spencer's term. He can have it. No one else wants it anyway. The media tried to put it on everyone who follows alternative right leaning media but I haven't seen anyone come out and say yes I'm alt right.

If you say you're alt-right, you just mean you're part of a movement led by Richard Spencer. And if you let the media define you as alt right, you're letting the media push their narrative that there's a huge evil group called the alt right and at the centre of it this evil Nazi called Richard Spencer who is the leader.

When it's not true at all, most of us had never heard of him until the media made him famous with that fake nazi salute story. Just using that term gives the narrative credibility.

Differentiate from cuckservatives by outgrouping them, not yourselves. It's so easy to trigger them by just telling them that they're really lefties.

The alt right is just a new spin on white nationalism. It's a more succinct and palatable term. And I think the idea behind it was that it would bring more disillusioned conservative and right wingers into the fold.

Unlike some members on this forum, I have no problem with Richard Spencer. He's been consistently and publicly espousing the same views for over a decade. So if he's a government plant, that has to be the longest undercover operation in history.

Cernovic, and other alt light figureheads seem to envy the mainstream media coverage he gets. The fact is he's a more interesting character than they are.

Richard Spencer is batshit insane, and you would be wise to steer far clear of him. He once was an interesting character, but that is no longer the case. He is not a government plant, he is simply a narcissist driven mad by the very media attention you believe is a good thing. And really, you couldn't be more wrong. Ten years ago, he thought Jews were great and was engaged to a Chinese woman.

He was fired from The American Conservative in 2007 for being too extreme.

He dated a lot of Asian women. So fucking what. I don't think anybody in the alt right harbors any negative sentiment towards Asians. They're a model minority.

That feeling goes pretty far back apparently...

“I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves,” Adolf Hitler said in 1945. “They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own.”

As for the Jews, he's tactfully "trolly". I think the Jerusalem Post interviewed him recently and he said he was pro-Israel and wanted white Zionism in the West.

That's a much smarter approach than all the spastics foaming at the mouth about (((them))). I know it's fun...but not very productive.

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:32 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:16 PM)helmutschmidt31 Wrote:  

Ten years ago, he thought Jews were great and was engaged to a Chinese woman.

He was fired from The American Conservative in 2007 for being too extreme.

He dated a lot of Asian women. So fucking what. I don't think anybody in the alt right harbors any negative sentiment towards Asians. They're a model minority.

That feeling goes pretty far back apparently...

“I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves,” Adolf Hitler said in 1945. “They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own.”

As for the Jews, he's tactfully "trolly". I think the Jerusalem Post interviewed him recently and he said he was pro-Israel and wanted white Zionism in the West.

That's a much smarter approach than all the spastics foaming at the mouth about (((them))). I know it's fun...but not very productive.

Spencer has the yellow fever? My nigga. Granted, I still don't know what to think of the guy, but banging Asian chicks is the type of "white supremacy" I can get behind! Maybe if Spencer becomes Supreme Leader we'll stop fighting wars to "liberate" ugly ass Middle Easterners and start fighting them to "liberate" Asian women instead. I'll even pitch in to help with the "nation building" once the dust settles

Quote: (01-24-2018 07:00 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 04:54 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

Quote: (01-23-2018 10:07 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

He physically challenged Richard Spencer over Richard's racist views during Trump's inauguration. He has stood up for black people in the manosphere for years, and did it in real life. I respect that man.

Looks like it won't do him a lot of good once the mindless mob turns on him.

Guy sounds alt light...

The funny thing about these guys is no matter how much they try to distance themselves from the alt-right, the media doesn't care. When they get doxxed, they face the same consequences.

That's what you get for punching right all the time, and being a luke warm pile of poo.

How is Cernovich is a lukewarm pile of poo? He's been out in the open for years. Even in his MikeCF days it was pretty obvious he was a well-known lawyer who put himself out there. If anything, he's been pretty balls deep in this scene before it was even a scene. That is anything but Lukewarm.

Quote: (01-24-2018 11:00 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 07:00 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 04:54 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

Quote: (01-23-2018 10:07 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

He physically challenged Richard Spencer over Richard's racist views during Trump's inauguration. He has stood up for black people in the manosphere for years, and did it in real life. I respect that man.

Looks like it won't do him a lot of good once the mindless mob turns on him.

Guy sounds alt light...

The funny thing about these guys is no matter how much they try to distance themselves from the alt-right, the media doesn't care. When they get doxxed, they face the same consequences.

That's what you get for punching right all the time, and being a luke warm pile of poo.

How is Cernovich is a lukewarm pile of poo? He's been out in the open for years. Even in his MikeCF days it was pretty obvious he was a well-known lawyer who put himself out there. If anything, he's been pretty balls deep in this scene before it was even a scene. That is anything but Lukewarm.

Did I say Cernovich anywhere in that post?

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:52 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:32 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2018 10:16 PM)helmutschmidt31 Wrote:  

Ten years ago, he thought Jews were great and was engaged to a Chinese woman.

He was fired from The American Conservative in 2007 for being too extreme.

He dated a lot of Asian women. So fucking what. I don't think anybody in the alt right harbors any negative sentiment towards Asians. They're a model minority.

That feeling goes pretty far back apparently...

“I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves,” Adolf Hitler said in 1945. “They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own.”

As for the Jews, he's tactfully "trolly". I think the Jerusalem Post interviewed him recently and he said he was pro-Israel and wanted white Zionism in the West.

That's a much smarter approach than all the spastics foaming at the mouth about (((them))). I know it's fun...but not very productive.

Spencer has the yellow fever? My nigga. Granted, I still don't know what to think of the guy, but banging Asian chicks is the type of "white supremacy" I can get behind! Maybe if Spencer becomes Supreme Leader we'll stop fighting wars to "liberate" ugly ass Middle Easterners and start fighting them to "liberate" Asian women instead. I'll even pitch in to help with the "nation building" once the dust settles

My thoughts exactly. What good is white privilege if you don't use it to bang all the foreign chicks with a massive inferiority complex?

I've got an Asian girlfriend myself. She'll sometimes lecture me on white privilege...right before hopping on my white meat stick.

The alt-lite's civic nationalism isn't going to save the West. What is being done in countries such as Poland or Hungary is the model that should be done. The Alt-right is spot on on a lot of issues, the issue is mainly with their presentation and their leadership right now.

Quote: (01-25-2018 12:06 AM)AWright Wrote:  

The alt-lite's civic nationalism isn't going to save the West. What is being done in countries such as Poland or Hungary is the model that should be done. The Alt-right is spot on on a lot of issues, the issue is mainly with their presentation and their leadership right now.

Relax, Mike was just hosting a party, he didn't invite the media or send out press releases either.

Also, just because you've declared someone a cuck or alt lite or whatever doesn't mean you still can't learn from them. It's hard to do but sometimes you realise the thing that they did or said isn't actually that important and there's no need to just say "ah, fuck that guy". I do that a lot and I think lots of people on the right do but I'm starting to realise it's unnecesary.

Quote: (01-25-2018 12:06 AM)AWright Wrote:  

The alt-lite's civic nationalism isn't going to save the West. What is being done in countries such as Poland or Hungary is the model that should be done. The Alt-right is spot on on a lot of issues, the issue is mainly with their presentation and their leadership right now.

Finally a sane man, this TEPID middle of the road shit wouldn't have worked when the Roman Empire was in collapse over a few centuries, it was tried and it didn't.

Red Ice and a few others are paving out the cold facts (Jared Taylor being a prime example), and some have great inspiring ideas (European Colonials returning to European nation of ancestry e.g Australia).
Give people back what they lost and never knew they could be proud of, the thing/s that were always missing.

And I like Spencer, I'd have light years more time for him than let's say Cernovich who I very charlatany/sketchy/untrustworthy and oddly disinterested(I bought Gorilla Mindset and he's so uninspired and sort of bland, no philosophy, on the lower rungs of the bar in any movement he'd be in). It's my gut, I have serious respect for the guy for combatting that hellish skin condition of his, because I have a serious health condition of my own, but on that front.....but that's about it.

Her's something I thought was great from Richard Spencer, level headed and measured:

Quote: (01-25-2018 01:02 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Quote: (01-25-2018 12:06 AM)AWright Wrote:  

The alt-lite's civic nationalism isn't going to save the West. What is being done in countries such as Poland or Hungary is the model that should be done. The Alt-right is spot on on a lot of issues, the issue is mainly with their presentation and their leadership right now.

Relax, Mike was just hosting a party, he didn't invite the media or send out press releases either.

Also, just because you've declared someone a cuck or alt lite or whatever doesn't mean you still can't learn from them. It's hard to do but sometimes you realise the thing that they did or said isn't actually that important and there's no need to just say "ah, fuck that guy". I do that a lot and I think lots of people on the right do but I'm starting to realise it's stupid.

I'm a fan of Mike and support him most of the time other than when he counter-signals the alt-right. I just noticed several people dog piling on the alt-right in this thread when they have a more sound ideology than people give them credit for.

Quote: (01-24-2018 07:19 PM)helmutschmidt31 Wrote:  

A few points from an attendee:

1) Cernovich is a nice guy, and did a decent job with the event. But, the entire backstory just doesn't make sense. You do not reserve a nightclub of that size with that level of staffing for 600+ people with $16,000 on your credit card. You probably couldn't reserve a venue for that many people anywhere in the country for $16,000. The initial two venues released by email were NOT in Midtown West as the invite indicated. This one was. It is clear the two prior events were either distraction or promotion.

2) There was *no* security at the event. It wasn't that long ago EVERY dance club of that size had metal detectors. How on earth was there not even a metal detector? Anyone could have walked in there with any number of weapons without any trouble.

3) The venue was, oddly, a cash bar. Who brings cash out these days? Why no notice? Oh, the bartenders indicate it was all paid for in advance. So they gave me drinks anyway. I guess it is perhaps better people didn't get trashed, but it was weird.

4) The scene by 9pm already had become violent. I left at this time because I brought my girlfriend. One would think with the large number of attendees, most of whom presumably subscribe to the "Gorilla Mindset", a reasonable defense could have been orchestrated in light of the terrible security at the event. How is it possible individuals were left to fend for themselves?

My advice to all of you interested in creating a movement: be very careful. I don't mind risk and danger, but renting a metal detector would have cost less than the gigantic LED screen behind the stage. This approached recklessness, particularly given the large crowd in DC the prior year. Yes, it is true the NYPD don't fuck around, but their numbers were stretched thin due to the women's march, which took up all of Midtown. As well, this was the kind of event where you see just how phony the "manliness" of these people really are. The men in attendance vastly outnumbered the police and antifa. No one should have been left to fend for themselves, and groups should have been organized to walk people to Midtown and the subway.

All that said, it was pleasant to see a surprisingly mixed-race, well-dressed crowd, a number of attractive women, and nothing approaching the madness of the "alt right" faction. Maybe I am being too hard on the organizers, but I can say for certain I will never attend any public events like these again. It's just not worth the risk.

I think the distraction theory has legs - probably the only way to handle something like this that's bound to get infiltrated and targeted by the opposition.

What got violent? The only thing I heard about was the attack on that one older guy and some shouting outside the doors by the antifags.

On the plus side it's good to hear it didn't also get infiltrated by tiki-torch waving asswipes trying to turn it into another Charlottesville mess. Even without their presence the event was already falsely labeled an extremist gathering.

I was at the Night For Freedom. It was a great night! A success by every measure. There was room for improvement but as the first event of its kind, Mike did a fantastic job. Even though I only bought a general ticket, Mike was kind enough to let me in early for the PodCast (worth at least 500). I quickly seized the opportunity to ask the hard questions and make the event serious:

Quote:[url=https://twitter.com/Sam_seau/status/955187933157478400][/url]

I had a great time after I drew attention to myself. I was able to promote a project I was working on to great success. Spoke with both Mike and his wife. His wife knew me from online and told me, "You're Samseau? You make me so PISSED off!" To which I replied, "I piss off a lot of women..." but it was all good. She seemed to like me and Mike was juggling 1000 things at once but he still gave me two good conversations throughout the night.

The first time we spoke was just general introductions, and I showed him a project I'm working on. The second time we spoke was after his wife saw me again and dragged me by my arm to Mike and said "This guy Samseau is the one who pisses me off!" Mike showed no emotion but if I had to guess he thought it was amusing.

I took the opportunity to tell him there, about 3 hours into the event, that it was a big success on every level and congratulated him. He nodded, and said this was the future of political events. He actually asked about this forum. He said, "Seems like every time I log onto the RVF there are people hating on me, why?" I told him I always defend him, and I've criticized those who anklebite. I always ask people here rhetorically, if anyone from RVF becomes successful we have to deal with people on here hating on us? Mike nodded in appreciation, he continued to run his event and I continued to network.

I met Jack Posobiec, who told me he is friends with gmac. Jack is a stand-up man. Clean cut, smart, incisive, I like Jack quite much. He is a man's man and he was also supportive of my project I was working on. His wife was very sweet, quiet, and pregnant. Congratulations Jack.

Gavin McInnes was very dismissive to me. He refused to talk about my project (turned down my card) and seemed extremely elitist. He views himself and his "proud boys" as the super elite men who will go around beating the shit out of AntiFa and other leftists. Not sure Gavin's approach is helpful, but he has a large following so I guess people find him entertaining.

Didn't find Owen.

I spoke with Stefan Molyneux quite extensively at the end of the night. Had some intense philosophical conversations regarding Kant. He's an empiricist, so Kant's transcendental realism (a modified form of idealism) serves as a heavy challenge to the British empiricist school. I asked him some hard questions, and he gave me great answers! I promoted my project to him, and he also asked if I would be willing to talk on his show sometime. I agreed and hopefully I can debate him on a podcast. Us philosophers love a good debate.

After speaking with Stefan, some drunk girl said "WOW you really held your own against Stefan, blah blah blah" and was hanging on my arm for the rest of the night. I did not pursue her because I was traveling with a girl to NYC I had to meet later anyways.

If you guys have any other questions, let me know and I'll tell you more.

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Good stuff.

Seems like the violence statements were overblown.

In our times Antifa would violently demonstrate against St. Francis of Assissi and Jesus Christ - they would try to bash those guys' heads in because they are about some of the values they don't support.

@Sam

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I took the opportunity to tell him there, about 3 hours into the event, that it was a big success on every level and congratulated him. He nodded, and said this was the future of political events. He actually asked about this forum. He said, "Seems like every time I log onto the RVF there are people hating on me, why?" I told him I always defend him, and I've criticized those who anklebite. I always ask people here rhetorically, if anyone from RVF becomes successful we have to deal with people on here hating on us? Mike nodded in appreciation, he continued to run his event and I continued to network.

Look man.

What you witnessed is envy, plain and simple.

Mike, whether we love him or hate him (I defended him during the Baked Alaska fiasco alongside you) achieved something. He wrote a bestseller, has made a name for himself in journalism, is a regular in Info Wars etc. As a RVF member, I am proud that one of us achieved that.

Now...take a look at most of his critics. Yes, he did mistakes (who didn't?) like most of us, had been called out, and improved. I and others called you out once, and you improved both as a man and intellectual. I was called out as well, and I improved both as a man and intellectual. But...most of his critics hate him just because he is simply better than them. You will not hear anything constructive. Just pure hate. Comments like "lol u suck", "go back to auchwitz kike" are a manifestation of jealously. Nothing more, nothing less. As you can see even on this thread, they are coming from the Alt Right, a movement that achieved absolutely nothing since it was conceived (I can't think of a SINGLE achievement except some memes). Again, pure jealously!


This is not limited to Mike. Roosh, for example, is not much loved in the wider Red Pill community. Why? He, unlike many other wannabees, made his own brand and platform, wrote books, and much more. Them, on the other hand? Probably nothing worth mentioning.


Jealously is not one of the Deadly sins just because lulz. You can see why.

^As I mentioned in another thread, I liked Mike's manosphere related writings. He put out a lot of good content on self-improvement.

When he went political during the election though, he's made a habit of punching right...regularly. That's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. It has nothing to do with envy.

I'm not quite sure what his political platform is...free speech? Nothing new there. Libertarians have going off on that for decades, and it's a concern no doubt. But is it really the most serious threat that Western civilization faces? No even close. It's just a more palatable subject, and an easier sale than immigration/race issues.

Mike these days seem more interested in building his brand, and personality cult than actually putting together an effective political movement. Same could be said about Milo (even though I thought he was an opportunist faggot from the start).

On the other hand, Spencer isn't making any money from his endeavors. He's not selling books, or neutraceuticals on InfoWars. It's only when you take the profit incentive out of the equation, that the sincerity of an individual can truly be measured.

^Read somewhere here that Spencer is a trustfund baby?

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:31 PM)Elster Wrote:  

^Read somewhere here that Spencer is a trustfund baby?

Yea, his parents are well off. He went to elite schools,etc.

That makes my point even more valid. He could be using those connections to start a hedge fund, and become filthy rich. Instead, he's chosen the path of societal outcast.

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:44 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:31 PM)Elster Wrote:  

^Read somewhere here that Spencer is a trustfund baby?

Yea, his parents are well off. He went to elite schools,etc.

That makes my point even more valid. He could be using those connections to start a hedge fund, and become filthy rich. Instead, he's chosen the path of societal outcast.

He went to elite schools and majored in bullshit. He entered a PhD program and washed out as soon as he had to face graduate level statistics. Now he lives off his trust fund and does nothing but attention whore and race bait.

He could have been a surgeon. He went to Duke, he could have furthered research in the life sciences at a premier private research institution. He could have done anything with his life and he choose to be a attention whore on a trust fund.

Quote: (01-26-2018 03:29 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:44 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:31 PM)Elster Wrote:  

^Read somewhere here that Spencer is a trustfund baby?

Yea, his parents are well off. He went to elite schools,etc.

That makes my point even more valid. He could be using those connections to start a hedge fund, and become filthy rich. Instead, he's chosen the path of societal outcast.

He went to elite schools and majored in bullshit. He entered a PhD program and washed out as soon as he had to face graduate level statistics. Now he lives off his trust fund and does nothing but attention whore and race bait.

He could have been a surgeon. He went to Duke, he could have furthered research in the life sciences at a premier private research institution. He could have done anything with his life and he choose to be a attention whore on a trust fund.

Exactly - when you are given a trust fund, then this can go either way. He actually risks 1000 times less than anyone else in the Alt Right - the others may actually later never join the corporate world or get fired even years in the future. He had no such risks.

I find it really funny when trust fund babies are engaged in social activism like this black guy who co-created the Black Lives Matter movement and was lecturing others about white oppression while being picked up by his driver.

And we frankly do not even know whether Richard Spencer is not a plant to derail the entire movement - with great success.

At least the men seen above are probably actually believing in everything they say - based on what they know trying to be true to themselves.

Samseau - Gavin refusing your card may have something to do with him trying to be careful as to not be associated with people he has no exact idea where they are coming from. Next he knows he gets press about exchanging contacts with a known Neo-Nazi. Isn't he working for Fox News now?

Quote: (01-26-2018 03:29 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:44 PM)Teep Wrote:  

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:31 PM)Elster Wrote:  

^Read somewhere here that Spencer is a trustfund baby?

Yea, his parents are well off. He went to elite schools,etc.

That makes my point even more valid. He could be using those connections to start a hedge fund, and become filthy rich. Instead, he's chosen the path of societal outcast.

He went to elite schools and majored in bullshit. He entered a PhD program and washed out as soon as he had to face graduate level statistics. Now he lives off his trust fund and does nothing but attention whore and race bait.

He could have been a surgeon. He went to Duke, he could have furthered research in the life sciences at a premier private research institution. He could have done anything with his life and he choose to be a attention whore on a trust fund.

I get why as a black guy, you don't like him, Atlanta Man. You wouldn't have much of a place in his ideal society. Fair enough.

But that's just a silly line of attack. Not everybody is interested in medicine, or hard sciences. I don't think surgeons are the epitome of success. They're often risk-adverse dunces which is why they shy away from the business world..

As for affecting societal change, immigration is the SINGLE biggest issue America and the West faces. It's an economic issue, it's a crime issue, it's a social cohesion issue,etc..Spencer's idea for a 50 year moratorium on ALL immigration would have huge positive impact. And that's why the idea is catching on steam. Even Trump and "mainstream" right wingers are pushing now for restricted legal immigration...