Quote: (10-06-2017 12:08 PM)Titus Wrote:  

Hi Brazilianguy, nice to talk to other Brazilians here. I was actually posting my view from a man perspective.

I think your thoughts regarding the type of guys that do great here are valid, but are more applicable for some niches:
- Upper class girls
- Young girls (18-25 yo)
- Internet celebrities
- 9s or 10s that are hit by tons of guys and therefore have a vast portfolio of options to choose from
Those girls tend to care more about social circle and social status, therefore gaming them is more difficult… totally agree with your thoughts in that way.

But according to my own experience, single middle class older girls (25 -35 yo, 6s to 8s, most) tends to be more open minded and are still bangable through the good old game. I know it sounds ingenuous, but I have lots of friends, that are not the best looking, some even unemployed, that manage to get new notches from nice girls, some that even pay the motel room in a ONS situation…

And also, competition is lower for those girls. It´s like they´re a "forgotten niche". After 25 yo, if single, they missed the ideal age of being in a LTR to get married. They have independent lifes, with nice jobs, that reduce their time available to socialize and know new people. At the same time, lots of Brazilian men are becoming hipsters or revealing theirselves as gays. It´s common to hear those girls complaining: "THERE´S NOT ENOUGH MEN AVAILABLE!"... Yeah, that´s where my harem comes from... lol

The bad thing about that is that this kind of girls are usually more westernalized in dressing, looking and attittude. Even though that they´re healthy and have nice bodies, forget about the typical stereotyped misterious young latina that foreigners love (Colombia is the place for that).


What I really thinks that there´s a real factor of difficulty when coming to gaming Brazilian girls in average is that the “traditional game” applicable to other countries doesn´t apply here: Forget about daygame. And you need to have the perfect combination of looks, attittude, a great opening and the right aggressiveness (too soft and slow, will be considered a moron, too hard and fast, will be considered an idiot). As I mentioned, even locals sometimes find it hard to adjust their game.

The reason why 25-35 year old women are easier to bang is because their value is lower, and their value is lower precisely because when they were 18-24 they acted as if they were princesses (an attitude which was made possible only because of social media, which was created precisely for that).

Now they know they ain´t so hot anymore and their time is limited, so since they couldn´t secure their first choices in men when they were in their prime years, they are settling for Mr. Good Enough. And you can bet they´re going to put their best effort into looking like good girls, because they´re not after hot sex (they had plenty when they were younger), no no no, they´re after a relationship and you´re gonna have to work for it.

So when you choose to use your game on one of these women (supposing you´re a man who is into self improvement on all areas) you´re devaluing yourself, because deep inside you know she´s not the woman you really want, and it´s clear to you that she also considers you one of her last options.

This means your game is based on neediness and deception and not confidence and honesty, which are the foundations for any real relationship, be it sexual or just a friendship.
And that´s why you have to keep lying to these women, because their only use is recreational sex.

No real relationship, not even a casual one, can exist between a guy who´s into self improvement and a loser woman, because she will drag you down with her attitude and lack of values (not feminine, can´t and won´t please a man, career oriented, yadda, yadda).

And worst of all, she will never recognize your value as a man. She can´t!
Because if she does, the abysmal difference between the both of you will be crystal clear and she will know that it will take a lot of effort to overcome that (an effort she is unwilling to make).
The result is that she will have to reduce you with words to make you believe you´re not high value.

So, yeah, low tier women can be had in Brazil, but is that a good enough reason to spend time, money and effort on a country with a high cost of living, huge crime rates and low cultural and educational level?

edit: double

Quote: (08-08-2017 10:25 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

Brazil isn't shit for women, at least not for me. I've met some absolute babes in Brazil.

Here is my prescriptive being a foreigner in both countries. This only applies to ME, others may have different experiences and I do not claim to be an expert.

Colombia has hotter women than Brazil.
Colombian women have better bodies.
Colombia is safer than Brazil.
Brazil has better beaches.
Brazilian men have better physique and game than Colombian men, so expect competition.
Brazil is easier to get laid using social media.
Colombia is easier to get laid using daygame.
Brazil is easier to get laid using nightgame.
Brazilians are much sluttier than any women in the world except asian gutter sluts.
Brazil is more expensive than Colombia.
Nightlife in Brazil is better and on average a lot more sexier, especially watching funk dancing.
Colombians party until 2am. Brazil parties until 6am.
You'll get shot a lot faster in Brasil than Colombia, and people will probably stand around and watch without offering any help whatsoever.

Overall I prefer Colombia, but Brazil is a good alternative. The crime keeps people away from Brazil. Saying that, I'll be back in Brasil in the next month doing my thing. I cant rate culture and food because all I care about is women.

Again, this is only my experience, and others may have a different one.

As a Brazilian, I must say that this is accurate. Your had a very good insight, congratz

Quote: (10-05-2017 07:18 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

Quote: (10-05-2017 03:10 PM)BacanT Wrote:  

Ok, so. Since my first time in 2004 i've been to brazil 5 times and in total spent about a year there.

SERTANEJO
It's a type of music i got to know living in london with guys from Goyania. This is where the music originates. Brazilian cowboys.
Since, it's become popular all over brazil and is now even starting to take of in Rio. I don't like the music much, but it does attract all the "traditional" hotties. Best looking girls i encountered in brazil (especially at sertanejo nights) Goiania and Cuiaba (Medellin eat your hearth out)

Have you been to club Villa Country in SP? No idea if it still exists.

Edit. It exists: Villa Country

That place was by far the easiest club in SP to kiss (I'm talking 2008-2011).

Lads, I've written a topic about it a few years ago, it might be helpful for other players as well: thread-58080.html

Quote: (10-06-2017 04:08 PM)the_ox Wrote:  

Lads, I've written a topic about it a few years ago, it might be helpful for other players as well: thread-58080.html

Read your post on Sertanejo. It's interesting to see how guys have issues with going to Sertanejo and the bad reputation it has. Just showing by even one guy in this thread warning about violence at its parties. When you pay 70RS, you can be pretty sure it's pretty safe. Especially compared to Funk parties in Rio. Also ten times more good looking girls than at any funk party.

Though that also depends where guys are from. Some of my best brazilian mates come from goiania and they introduced me to it in 2004. And believe me, two of them are as alpha as it gets. Probably also why they would never be ashamed to admit they love it.

Quote: (10-06-2017 02:41 PM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

The reason why 25-35 year old women are easier to bang is because their value is lower, and their value is lower precisely because when they were 18-24 they acted as if they were princesses (an attitude which was made possible only because of social media, which was created precisely for that).

Now they know they ain´t so hot anymore and their time is limited, so since they couldn´t secure their first choices in men when they were in their prime years, they are settling for Mr. Good Enough. And you can bet they´re going to put their best effort into looking like good girls, because they´re not after hot sex (they had plenty when they were younger), no no no, they´re after a relationship and you´re gonna have to work for it.

So when you choose to use your game on one of these women (supposing you´re a man who is into self improvement on all areas) you´re devaluing yourself, because deep inside you know she´s not the woman you really want, and it´s clear to you that she also considers you one of her last options.

This means your game is based on neediness and deception and not confidence and honesty, which are the foundations for any real relationship, be it sexual or just a friendship.
And that´s why you have to keep lying to these women, because their only use is recreational sex.

No real relationship, not even a casual one, can exist between a guy who´s into self improvement and a loser woman, because she will drag you down with her attitude and lack of values (not feminine, can´t and won´t please a man, career oriented, yadda, yadda).

And worst of all, she will never recognize your value as a man. She can´t!
Because if she does, the abysmal difference between the both of you will be crystal clear and she will know that it will take a lot of effort to overcome that (an effort she is unwilling to make).
The result is that she will have to reduce you with words to make you believe you´re not high value.

So, yeah, low tier women can be had in Brazil, but is that a good enough reason to spend time, money and effort on a country with a high cost of living, huge crime rates and low cultural and educational level?

Buddy, don´t generalize. You sounded like if any single woman older than 25 years old are losers by the rule… That’s far from the reality. Especially nowadays in 1st tier Brazilian cities, such as Rio and Sao Paulo, where women in general are MUCH more comfortable being single than 10 or 15 years ago.

I´m not saying that those girls don´t want to marry, but far from the single status being an issue of lower value of them. I never needed to lie or not being clear with my intention. Actually some of the girls I dated knew that I was dating other girls at the same time… no big deal. Lots of them also have a very solid career… lawyers, physicians, managers of multinationals, having studied abroad, etc. And in bed, Brazilian in general are VERY good, they don´t disappoint in that. By the end of the day, can´t see why they´re supposed to be losers and why dating them would drag any man down.

Another thing to mention is that being 35 yo and with a solid career, I just don´t see a point of dating regularly girls under 25 (although of course I try to bang them when there´s an opportunity). We usually don´t share the same cultural interests and goals in life with that age difference…


Anyway, I´m talking about my personal experience in dating girls in Rio and Sao Paulo (where I live, and where I travel a lot due to work, respectively). Your experience can be totally different, just don´t generalize things.

In 2nd tier cities or other regions of Brazil, situation is totally different. Actually, Rio and Sao Paulo are surely the hardest places to game in Brazil, but as most tourists go to those cities, I thought it was worth to share a little bit of my view of those places.

Quote: (10-06-2017 03:54 PM)the_ox Wrote:  

Quote: (08-08-2017 10:25 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

Brazil isn't shit for women, at least not for me. I've met some absolute babes in Brazil.

Here is my prescriptive being a foreigner in both countries. This only applies to ME, others may have different experiences and I do not claim to be an expert.

Colombia has hotter women than Brazil.
Colombian women have better bodies.
Colombia is safer than Brazil.
Brazil has better beaches.
Brazilian men have better physique and game than Colombian men, so expect competition.
Brazil is easier to get laid using social media.
Colombia is easier to get laid using daygame.
Brazil is easier to get laid using nightgame.
Brazilians are much sluttier than any women in the world except asian gutter sluts.
Brazil is more expensive than Colombia.
Nightlife in Brazil is better and on average a lot more sexier, especially watching funk dancing.
Colombians party until 2am. Brazil parties until 6am.
You'll get shot a lot faster in Brasil than Colombia, and people will probably stand around and watch without offering any help whatsoever.

Overall I prefer Colombia, but Brazil is a good alternative. The crime keeps people away from Brazil. Saying that, I'll be back in Brasil in the next month doing my thing. I cant rate culture and food because all I care about is women.

Again, this is only my experience, and others may have a different one.

As a Brazilian, I must say that this is accurate. Your had a very good insight, congratz

Just came back from some months working in Colombia. Based in Medellin, but travelled a lot to Bogotá. Also visited the coast on some holidays (Cartagena, Santa Marta and San Andres).

I thing that this comparison was indeed very accurate. Would add a few things:

*Colombia seems MUCH safer than Brazil, actually. Walking in the fanciest areas of Medellin and Bogotá I felt 100% safe. Couldn´t say the same for fanciest areas of Rio and Sao Paulo, for example. Also, according to the Colombians I met, crime is not a big deal nowadays out of the poorest neighborhoods (“comunas”), which is different from any Brazilian city, where crime is always an issue in any part of the town.

*Colombian girls are more sexY. Brazilian girls are more sexUAL.

*Colombian girls have a more family oriented and religious vibe. Brazilian girls have a more liberal and party vibe.

*Colombian girls are much friendlier to strangers.

*Colombian girls are INCREDIBLY feminine and cute. Even clerks or waitress, for example, wear make-up, have beautiful hair and have that thin and sexy latina body. Also, in average, have incredible boobs, either fake or natural. Probably the cutest girls in the world (again: in average).

* The only 2 bad things I would say about them:
- EXTREMELY flakey and averse to ONS… Colombia is still a very religious and traditional place. I´ve heard some guys did well there, but at least for me sought to be a very difficult place to have casual relations (although I got my flag and some nice bangs).
- Colombian girls ass…. Yes, that was a minor disappointment, but being Brazilian, asses are one of the most important part of the woman body for me. Although far from being fat or ugly, I saw lot of Colombian girls with very small and shapeless ass. Tons of times I was just looking at this wonderful woman coming in the street, beautiful face, nice hair, hot boobs, cute belly… and then she turns to have only an “ok” ass. Think it´s due to a mix of the Andean region DNA (just look at their neighbors Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia… small asses everywhere) and the lack of an “ass culture”, such as happens in Brazil, where ass is the most loved part of a woman´s body and the main focus of the girls at the gym. Anyway, as said, was only a minor disappointment and, in my opinion, is the only body part that the Brazilian average girl has an advantage over the Colombian average girl.

Quote: (10-06-2017 04:08 PM)the_ox Wrote:  

Quote: (10-05-2017 07:18 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

Quote: (10-05-2017 03:10 PM)BacanT Wrote:  

Ok, so. Since my first time in 2004 i've been to brazil 5 times and in total spent about a year there.

SERTANEJO
It's a type of music i got to know living in london with guys from Goyania. This is where the music originates. Brazilian cowboys.
Since, it's become popular all over brazil and is now even starting to take of in Rio. I don't like the music much, but it does attract all the "traditional" hotties. Best looking girls i encountered in brazil (especially at sertanejo nights) Goiania and Cuiaba (Medellin eat your hearth out)

Have you been to club Villa Country in SP? No idea if it still exists.

Edit. It exists: Villa Country

That place was by far the easiest club in SP to kiss (I'm talking 2008-2011).

Lads, I've written a topic about it a few years ago, it might be helpful for other players as well: thread-58080.html

Vila Country still exists, but Villa Mix and Woods are the top sertanejo clubs in Sao Paulo nowadays…

Quote: (10-06-2017 06:49 PM)BacanT Wrote:  

Quote: (10-06-2017 04:08 PM)the_ox Wrote:  

Lads, I've written a topic about it a few years ago, it might be helpful for other players as well: thread-58080.html

Read your post on Sertanejo. It's interesting to see how guys have issues with going to Sertanejo and the bad reputation it has. Just showing by even one guy in this thread warning about violence at its parties. When you pay 70RS, you can be pretty sure it's pretty safe. Especially compared to Funk parties
in Rio. Also ten times more good looking girls than at any funk party.

My post was not to warn about violence inside these venues, I don't think anyone here is going to get killed or beaten up in a high end Sertanejo place. I just wanted to shed some light into the kind of people that go in there. And yes, I'm talking about the clubs that charge more than BRL 70 to get in. I can post links to some events that took place but I don't want to be accused of being a fearmonger.

Funk parties are a completely different thing. They take place inside favelas, so you know what you're getting into. Sertanejo clubs are usually in prime areas of the city and mostly frequented by noveau riche people and middle class posers.

Sertanejo is yesterdays news anyway, a lot of the clubs are starting to close. Brazilian Funk has invaded middle class and upper class parties (when you thought it couldn't get any worse), as well as Samba/pagode...

I see plenty of beautiful Brazilians girls 25-30 in São Paulo and Rio. They are dresses feminine, educated, and got decent Jobs in multinationals. They also speak good English. A lot of them are open to dating foreigners and expats.

I don’t know where you are keep meeting these feminist women that have a defeatist attitude? For a second I thought you were talking about the CITY in London or Downtime Mahattan.


Just go check out the office areas of Itaim bibi or paulista, plenty of nice looking girls there a lot of them middle class. Even the girls that work at the likes of pwc in barra funda and Deloitte in Morumbi are really friendly, femine and often with a smile. If you think that is bad, you can forget about most professionals in the US or UK, the young ones are in relationships for years if not decades and older one are way worse. Be prepared to deal with some real nasty bitches who might have different agenda to what you are thinking.

I had plans on heading to Rio this December but damn , you guys are giving me second thoughts

Quote: (10-08-2017 03:12 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

I see plenty of beautiful Brazilians girls 25-30 in São Paulo and Rio. They are dresses feminine, educated, and got decent Jobs in multinationals. They also speak good English. A lot of them are open to dating foreigners and expats.

I don’t know where you are keep meeting these feminist women that have a defeatist attitude? For a second I thought you were talking about the CITY in London or Downtime Mahattan.

Where in Rio? lol. Will agree they're easier to find in São Paulo however.

Many gals (people in general) I know from Rio are very well-educated in my books. They just channel their intellectual thinking into dumb feminazi tendencies which irks me.

I respect people that can be very PC or have whatever views, etc. My experiences with certain Carioca chicks is they're always trying to push their thinking upon others = red flag for me.

Quote: (10-08-2017 03:12 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Just go check out the office areas of Itaim bibi or paulista, plenty of nice looking girls there a lot of them middle class. Even the girls that work at the likes of pwc in barra funda and Deloitte in Morumbi are really friendly, femine and often with a smile.

If time & money are permitted, would love to try daygame in those parts of São Paulo..esp Itaim Bibi/Vila Olímpia

Quote: (10-08-2017 06:06 PM)Justvibe Wrote:  

I had plans on heading to Rio this December but damn , you guys are giving me second thoughts

Even if Rio doesn't have the prettiest girls in Brazil, i still think it's the most amazing city in the world to spend a few weeks of holiday.
Not too many places in the world, that have great beaches in the middle of a beautiful exotic metropolitan.

I'd recommend anyone to go there at least once in his life. Best when still single.

Quote: (10-08-2017 06:06 PM)Justvibe Wrote:  

I had plans on heading to Rio this December but damn , you guys are giving me second thoughts

I would reply basically what BacanT already said: Everyone should visit Rio at least once in life.

Even with all the problems, I still think it´s the most beautiful city in the world, with wonderful beaches and mountains mixed in the landscape. I also think the vibe is great, specially for tourists: A mix of laidback vibe with permanent party atmosphere. It´s difficult to find this mix (both the nature and the vibe) in any other major city around the world (> 1 million people), probably only Barcelona has such a tourist appeal...


But safety is a real issue. Think the economic crisis is starting to slow down, so things may be better in 1 or 2 years. If you could reschedule your trip, would be better to wait a little bit until things calm down.

Quote: (10-08-2017 07:57 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Where in Rio? lol. Will agree they're easier to find in São Paulo however.

Check out the bars in Botafogo (especially the ones in front of the metro station), in Baixo Leblon or in Ipanema. My tip is to go from wednesday to friday, from 6pm to 10pm... lots of girls after work in small groups. Nice places to hit.

Quote: (10-08-2017 08:22 PM)Titus Wrote:  

Quote: (10-08-2017 06:06 PM)Justvibe Wrote:  

I had plans on heading to Rio this December but damn , you guys are giving me second thoughts

But safety is a real issue. Think the economic crisis is starting to slow down, so things may be better in 1 or 2 years. If you could reschedule your trip, would be better to wait a little bit until things calm down.

I guess it also depends on your age and how much you've traveled in the past. Rio is maybe not for beginners. Girls wise and also because safety is an issue as well. Had my first ever travel by myself started in Rio as it is right now, i might have gotten myself in to trouble. (Developing) being travel savvy helps.

If you're still young, there should be plenty future opportunities.
Still, you can also just go for a few days and travel from Rio. Plenty of cool stuff close to Rio too. E.g. Buzios. And that's much safer.

Quote: (10-01-2017 07:47 AM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

I really wonder why a high value guy like Quintus Curtius likes Brazil so much and keeps coming back (and to Rio, of all places!).
I´m guessing he´s one of those people who´s so polite he can´t bring himself to say anything pessimistic about anything or anyone.

Hehe...legitimate question, chief.

First let me say that I'm not turning a blind eye to the negatives. Believe me. I've freely admitted that the Rio of 2017 is not the Rio of 2009, when I first started visiting.

I think I've acknowledged the negatives: the crime, more girls with tattoos, more esquerdista girls, changing social patterns, increased difficulties for night life, costs, etc. I grant you all that. I admit it.

But you asked what keeps me coming back. And let me tell you, although I think I've already said it before.

The reason is: love. I love the people. And I love the city. I have close friends here that I've known for many years. There are girls here that I've known for many years. Some of these people are as close to me as family. So no, I can't just turn my back on all of that, just because of some social discomfort. That's not in my DNA. When the object of your love is going through tough times, you stick by her. You don't abandon her. I'm sticking by Rio because she is going through tough times...I'm not going to give up on her, or on my social circle there.

I also thrive on the feeling in the air, the raw torrent of emotions that pulse just beneath the surface of things, and that threaten to explode at any time in a geyser of brutal intensity. That's just me. I don't want to ever become so sanitized to real life that I forget what it feels like to be alert on a city street, with all your senses attuned to a high level of acuteness. I am not a zombie. I am not a pale, wooden shell of a man.

I happen to think Brazilian women are fantastic. Just fantastic. I don't care if my girl is a blue-collar, office girl. Does not matter to me. I've paid my dues and no one is going to run me off. My last two times in Rio, I was robbed one time, and then got a bad case of strep throat the most recent time, when I was sharing and apartment with a girl. But you know what? Doesn't matter. I say to myself: suck it up. Deal with it. This is the life you've chosen. Make your choices, roll with it.

Just my way of seeing things. Rio's not a place for whiners, complainers, beginners, or those who want to be spoon-fed everything.

I tried going back to Tokyo a few years back. It felt like being in a hospital ward filled with lobotomy patients. I was not feeling it. I had changed. Permanently.

Living in the USA can become a numbing, stultifying experience. You can become hypnotized into being a drone. But in Rio, you have to be alert and on your toes. There is a pumping intensity in the air, like the beating heart of a panther. This is what men of adventure crave. This is what men of adventure need.

But you are right about one thing: I need to visit different cities in the country. That much is true, and I'm going to work on that.

Quote: (10-08-2017 08:35 PM)BacanT Wrote:  

I guess it also depends on your age and how much you've traveled in the past. Rio is maybe not for beginners. Girls wise and also because safety is an issue as well. Had my first ever travel by myself started in Rio as it is right now, i might have gotten myself in to trouble. (Developing) being travel savvy helps.

If you're still young, there should be plenty future opportunities.
Still, you can also just go for a few days and travel from Rio. Plenty of cool stuff close to Rio too. E.g. Buzios. And that's much safer.

I'd say Brazil period is not for beginners; being "travel savvy" also helps tremendously in Brazil

Not only did studying the language beforehand and after every Brazil trip help...but my background of traveling throughout Europe alone and taking family trips to chaotic SE Asian destinations prepared me for all the funny bounces that came during my time in Brazil...whether that was visiting or living there.

One of the most rewarding places I've ever been affiliated with despite some shortcomings...(every culture has them really). Extremely proud to have invested much of my time in Brazil & can't wait to go back.

Just had a date with a mid 30s professional girl I picked up in Ipanema. Four drinks deep and making out in front of her apt. Sensual but no dice for SNL which I knew going in. She was fun to game but was pretty straightforward about dragging it out. I even joked yeah I can tell you’re a 2-3 date type girl. She said maybe even more I had to bite my tongue (her tongue actually). I’m thinking lol on what planet would I ever see you again, lady?

It was actually a pretty good date intellectually since she’d lived abroad and was very well educated. But christ she’d gone through two husbands and instead of kids had a couple little doggies.

On the one hand I kinda like the fact that women aren’t coming with post partum bodies and single mom baggage. On the other hand having to look at pictures of her “babies” makes me weep inside for mankind when a good woman’s mothering instincts are converted to toy poodles. So erm yeah Brazil has the same shit I deal with in NYC.

Oh yeah in our two Block walk we got approached by two bums. The first she bought a meal for in the store. The second she gave two riels to. He was so fucking dirty and half clothed insane he started weeping and ran away gleefully shouting. But not before he had her sign his body with magic marker (he was covered in scribble). This right after she tells me she’s never had anything bad happen to her in Rio and there’s lots of cops in Ipanema to protect the rich people.

I was like shot god damn lady. Are you sure I can’t come up and take a piss? She was nice enough to stand guard until my uber came.

You can’t make this shit up!

Quote: (10-08-2017 10:52 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

Just had a date with a mid 30s professional girl I picked up in Ipanema. Four drinks deep and making out in front of her apt. Sensual but no dice for SNL which I knew going in. She was fun to game but was pretty straightforward about dragging it out. I even joked yeah I can tell you’re a 2-3 date type girl. She said maybe even more I had to bite my tongue (her tongue actually). I’m thinking lol on what planet would I ever see you again, lady?

It was actually a pretty good date intellectually since she’d lived abroad and was very well educated. But christ she’d gone through two husbands and instead of kids had a couple little doggies.

On the one hand I kinda like the fact that women aren’t coming with post partum bodies and single mom baggage. On the other hand having to look at pictures of her “babies” makes me weep inside for mankind when a good woman’s mothering instincts are converted to toy poodles. So erm yeah Brazil has the same shit I deal with in NYC.

Oh yeah in our two Block walk we got approached by two bums. The first she bought a meal for in the store. The second she gave two riels to. He was so fucking dirty and half clothed insane he started weeping and ran away gleefully shouting. But not before he had her sign his body with magic marker (he was covered in scribble). This right after she tells me she’s never had anything bad happen to her in Rio and there’s lots of cops in Ipanema to protect the rich people.

I was like shot god damn lady. Are you sure I can’t come up and take a piss? She was nice enough to stand guard until my uber came.

You can’t make this shit up!

So the bottom line is: you had to spit game on a mid 30s woman in order to get a bang (which you ended up not getting).

Don´t take me wrong: I don´t know you, but I don´t think you´re a loser.

I´ve been through the situation you are describing many times.

The fact of the matter is that here in Brazil, as women hit their 30s and mid 30s their list of demands- specially financial and emotional ones - increases.

The 30-35 year old woman also takes longer to put out because she knows the clock is ticking and she has to find Mr. Nice Guy Who Doesn´t Care About Her Past, and make him jump through hoops so that, when he finally has sex with her, he is locked in a relationship.

That´s why I decided to avoid pursuing women of that age.
The cost/benefit is shit: too much work for too small a reward.

Here´s my opinion: unless you have a taste for MILFs, if you´re a normal guy you probably prefer younger women.
So, when you invest your time, effort (and sometimes money) on a mid 30s MILF you´re disrespecting yourself and wasting the woman´s time.

The problem is that game has become such an ungrateful chore in Brazil that it´s hard to have access to younger women nowadays unless you manage to fit in one of the categories I listed in my earlier posts (internet famous, baller, etc), so many times you´re stuck with the leftovers, even if you´re a stand up guy.

I wouldn´t say banging chicks in Brazil is any easier than doing that in the States or in Europe these days.
Like you said, Brazil isn´t for beginners.
The funny thing is that many guys seem to wear that like a badge of honor, but I think it´s just stupid.

If I´m living in a country with subpar women who think they´re God´s greatest gift to mankind and treat 99% of men like shit, I´m gonna want to travel somewhere where I´m actually treated with respect and have a shot at the young hot chicks.

What´s the point in wasting time on a thirdworld country with high prices where women have the same attitude as the ones back home?

On a different note, for those who like Rio, I´d strongly recommend checking out João Pessoa, in the state of Paraíba: much more beautiful in terms of nature, much, much lower prices and more of a hidden gem (it´s also a smaller city).

Quote: (10-09-2017 09:00 AM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

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The 30-35 year old woman also takes longer to put out because she knows the clock is ticking and she has to find Mr. Nice Guy Who Doesn´t Care About Her Past, and make him jump through hoops so that, when he finally has sex with her, he is locked in a relationship.

This is not specific to brazil.
In my experience, girls under 30 are willing to take fuck buddies etc. Girls over thirty feel like it needs to lead to something. They are willing to go to for the ONS if you meet them out, but that's it. When investing time, the aim is usually a relationship. And honestly, i don't feel like you can blame them. They start realizing that for them the market is closing in, beauty is fading and biological clock ticking.

Quote: (10-09-2017 09:00 AM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

So the bottom line is: you had to spit game on a mid 30s woman in order to get a bang (which you ended up not getting).

Don´t take me wrong: I don´t know you, but I don´t think you´re a loser.

I´ve been through the situation you are describing many times.

The fact of the matter is that here in Brazil, as women hit their 30s and mid 30s their list of demands- specially financial and emotional ones - increases.

The 30-35 year old woman also takes longer to put out because she knows the clock is ticking and she has to find Mr. Nice Guy Who Doesn´t Care About Her Past, and make him jump through hoops so that, when he finally has sex with her, he is locked in a relationship.

That´s why I decided to avoid pursuing women of that age.
The cost/benefit is shit: too much work for too small a reward.

Here´s my opinion: unless you have a taste for MILFs, if you´re a normal guy you probably prefer younger women.
So, when you invest your time, effort (and sometimes money) on a mid 30s MILF you´re disrespecting yourself and wasting the woman´s time.

The problem is that game has become such an ungrateful chore in Brazil that it´s hard to have access to younger women nowadays unless you manage to fit in one of the categories I listed in my earlier posts (internet famous, baller, etc), so many times you´re stuck with the leftovers, even if you´re a stand up guy.

I wouldn´t say banging chicks in Brazil is any easier than doing that in the States or in Europe these days.
Like you said, Brazil isn´t for beginners.
The funny thing is that many guys seem to wear that like a badge of honor, but I think it´s just stupid.

If I´m living in a country with subpar women who think they´re God´s greatest gift to mankind and treat 99% of men like shit, I´m gonna want to travel somewhere where I´m actually treated with respect and have a shot at the young hot chicks.

What´s the point in wasting time on a thirdworld country with high prices where women have the same attitude as the ones back home?

On a different note, for those who like Rio, I´d strongly recommend checking out João Pessoa, in the state of Paraíba: much more beautiful in terms of nature, much, much lower prices and more of a hidden gem (it´s also a smaller city).

We´re mixing 2 different topics here:


1) Are the more aproachable "older girls" (> 25yo) worhty it?

I think you´re generalizing those girls based on your experience, but as I and other users already said, YES, they can be worthy spending your game on them...

In 1st tier cities, especially in Rio and Sao Paulo, being single by that age is not a handicap as it would be some decades before. Girls are pretty comfortable with that, we now have large groups of single friends going out and having fun, girls don´t have that paranoid feeling of “my friends are getting married and I´m still single”… Just check out bars and restaurants of Itaim Bibi, Morumbi, Vila Olimpia (Sao Paulo) or Botafogo, Leblon, Ipanema (Rio): Full of single girls, self-confident, with solid careers, well-educated and with time and money to spend on her looks (they usually look younger), having fun and opened to casual or short term relations.

And also, banging a 20yo girl is great when you´re inside her… but after that, what are you going to talk about? What cultural interests do you share? Really don´t see a point for having more than a ONS with younger girls.

Of course, if you go to 2nd tier or smaller cities, the situation is totally different, as most of the “higher value” girls are already married after 25 yo. But in the other hand, younger girls are very hot and pretty easier in those places, such as Goiania, Juiz de Fora, Londrina, Maringa, Blumenau, Cuiabá, Vila Velha (just to mention some “hidden gems” outside the biggest cities). Not to mention the North and Northeast, where most cities are literally a pussy paradise, although the quality and level of education is lower (like a SEA inside Brazil).



2) Is Brazil worthy a visit?

That depends. Costs and crime rates are very high nowadays, as everybody knows. But there are lots of things to consider: Wonderful nature, tons of tourist things to do across the country, cosmopolitan major cities, laidback and friendly people and a permanent party and fun-loving vibe. There´s a reason why people are still coming here and that´s that they still have a good time.

Quote: (10-09-2017 01:34 PM)Titus Wrote:  

We´re mixing 2 different topics here:


1) Are the more aproachable "older girls" (> 25yo) worhty it?

I think you´re generalizing those girls based on your experience, but as I and other users already said, YES, they can be worthy spending your game on them...

In 1st tier cities, especially in Rio and Sao Paulo, being single by that age is not a handicap as it would be some decades before. Girls are pretty comfortable with that, we now have large groups of single friends going out and having fun, girls don´t have that paranoid feeling of “my friends are getting married and I´m still single”… Just check out bars and restaurants of Itaim Bibi, Morumbi, Vila Olimpia (Sao Paulo) or Botafogo, Leblon, Ipanema (Rio): Full of single girls, self-confident, with solid careers, well-educated and with time and money to spend on her looks (they usually look younger), having fun and opened to casual or short term relations.

And also, banging a 20yo girl is great when you´re inside her… but after that, what are you going to talk about? What cultural interests do you share? Really don´t see a point for having more than a ONS with younger girls.

Of course, if you go to 2nd tier or smaller cities, the situation is totally different, as most of the “higher value” girls are already married after 25 yo. But in the other hand, younger girls are very hot and pretty easier in those places, such as Goiania, Juiz de Fora, Londrina, Maringa, Blumenau, Cuiabá, Vila Velha (just to mention some “hidden gems” outside the biggest cities). Not to mention the North and Northeast, where most cities are literally a pussy paradise, although the quality and level of education is lower (like a SEA inside Brazil).

C´mon, man, you know that´s bullshit.
Are you new to the red pill?

Every single woman over 26 that I banged was looking for a relationship, and the ones in their 30s were genuinely desperate.

Of course they try to put on that "independent and confident" façade the media sells, but we all know it´s just lies.

And, by the way, I think having relationships with 18-23 year old women is hands down infinitely better than dating over 25 year old chicks: the sex is much hotter and as a consequence, connection is stronger; they are more than willing to be led and easier to impress, so they respect you more.

My ex was 20 (I was 34 at the time) and the relationship was great, until I lost her when she started using social media.

Women over 25 tend to be jaded, have feminist values and are a lot more demanding and high maintenance, and they also have a blockage when it comes to pleasing men.
Sex is much worse, of course, and their so called "culture" really comes down to feminist brainwashing and sitcoms.
I´ve yet to find one of those "worldly" older women who are into real high culture like literature and classical music (or even more refined types of popular music like jazz, blues, etc).

^@ Brazilianguy - I don't think Titus is insisting that women over 25 are better than chicks from the 18-23 range. Of course not.

In more "developed" settings of Brazil however, many gals from the 18-23 range tend to have social circles and dating lives that revolve around the immediate social circles surrounding them...on average.

As a foreigner that speaks Portuguese and has experienced many types of women in the US, around the world, and in of course Brazil...gals in your country above the age range of 25 are quite impressive in terms of looks & sex. Brazilian women with emphasis on their health tend to age more gracefully than your average western cunt.

When it comes to sex..you take what you can get...and there are many Brazilian gals above the 8 range in my books that happen to be over the age of 25. Is any guy going to pass up the chance to smash a really hot Brazilian gal over the age of 25 if the opportunity presents itself? Of course not.

Gals between the age of 18-23 tend to be on average at their sexual peak as banging them is like icing on the cake. It's not something you can completely dwell on unless your wish is to be obsessively disappointed. From my experiences, I know many Brazilian women who didn't really have that much sex or hookups before age 25 because their time mainly revolved around just social circles. As they grow past that age..some even learn to take much better care of their overall appearances & become more independent which makes them more accessible to guys like me.

Quote: (10-09-2017 01:34 PM)Titus Wrote:  

Of course, if you go to 2nd tier or smaller cities, the situation is totally different, as most of the “higher value” girls are already married after 25 yo. But in the other hand, younger girls are very hot and pretty easier in those places, such as Goiania, Juiz de Fora, Londrina, Maringa, Blumenau, Cuiabá, Vila Velha (just to mention some “hidden gems” outside the biggest cities). Not to mention the North and Northeast, where most cities are literally a pussy paradise, although the quality and level of education is lower (like a SEA inside Brazil).

Haven't been to those cities above but would have to whole-heartedly disagree about Londrina. Most of my bangs in Curitiba were surprisingly from the interior of Paraná. They tend to be really cool when relocating to Curitiba but are quite cold when you encounter them in their hometowns. Women in Paraná tend to be cold in general though it's easier to break the ice in Curitiba since they tend to have more personality & conviction to play off of. Gals in the interior of Paraná tend to be a bit boring & stiff along with their colder.

Don't know what it is but the gals in smaller cities of São Paulo (state), Rio Grande do Sul, or Santa Catarina tend to be better bets. Would like to try Campo Grande, Goiânia, Cuiaba, and Campinas one day though.

As for Londrina more specifically, the younger gals have male social circles like a motherfuck. It's a real big university town where just about every college chick has beta orbiters around all the time. Curitiba is by far way better however in terms of quality (personality/looks) AND quantity.

+1 from a day game approach from last month. This girl was busy all September. Finally had free time this week. Glad I double booked her because the Tinder date had an excuse. Being Monday all the museums are closed. Hit the Botanic Gardens for a few hours then headed over to Leblon to fuck around.

Got this 21 year old 7 to meet me in Botafogo for happy hour. She traded crypto which surprised me. So we hit it off. That was actually the excuse to get her upstairs.

I’m gonna have to give her an extra point for that shaved pussy and lovely Brazilian ass. Maybe plus 2 for her willingness to strut ass around he room and dance up on me while I tried to act disinterested. I had her get on all fours and point her ass at me while crossed my arms standing in the corner judging and admiring that college bubble butt. Mmm...

She gave me about a solid hour of resistance before declaring it was “game over”. More annoying to game than the 30 year old professional from last night but once I felt that bald punani on the couch I knew she was just playing hard to get.

Perfect English was helpful. Couldn’t have done shit without that to be honest. She also said I’m gonna give you a gift: either you can take off my top or bottom. Uh bottom, bitch.

That ass jiggled so nice. I must be fucking crazy gaming 30+ age chicks in Brazil. Thanks for that feedback.

That fucking old lady was telling me about Mendoza wine region of Argentina and showing the hotel she and her friend would be staying at right around the same time into the date this young hot chick was having me slap her ass hard. No contest. And she didn’t even drink any alcohol. Fuck it. In the third world always go as young as possible.