[The Good Life]

(08-08-2017 12:14 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  

If you are searching for women, sorry to disappoint but Brazil is shit for this. If you look for food, hikings, good views then yeah, come here.

Our food, IMO, is one of the best in the world.

Yes yes, you heard it here people. Stay far far away from Brazil, gringos. The women are ugly and fat with bad attitudes, and it's too expensive. The more of you that stay away, the less competition that I'll have

Go to Ireland instead

[VamosaSinko]

(08-10-2017 03:30 PM)Lino Wrote:  

Mate, I have been to Rio and liked it a lot, went there 2 years ago and posted on the forum while I was there.

I had a lot of fun but I also enjoy your culture, language, music, nature and food, not only women.

I am aware that many men struggle when they go there, maybe I have been lucky, I don't know.

I said in my previous post that you have some valid points, the problem is that you exaggerate them a lot.

And when you say that the average UK girl is better looking than brazilian girls then you kill your credibility.

Now my previous message might have butthurt you and sorry if that' s the case, but I think your opinion doesnt reflect reality. Or maybe it is because you are a local and as you say you prefer white slim chicks, which Brazil isn't famous for indeed.

Now the average gringo who doesnt know a single portuguese word, doesnt like the culture, looks like shit and thinks he's gonna kill it there just because he has an american passport, that kind of guy is going to get quickly desillusioned.

If that's your message I think most of us agree on that, don't worry the guys who want super easy lays go to some parts of Asia, not to Brazil.

I just went back from Rio few weeks ago. I have stayed there for 3 months and it is not about men strugling to get pussy in Brazil, because I think it is very easy.

It is about the quality of women, which I found the worst from all the places I have lived in. I really had to lower my standards a lot to talk to any girls during the day.

The most shocking experience for me was hanging out in Leblon shopping (the most baller shopping mall in Rio)...fucking insane how bad looking girls were working and walking around there....like I couldnt believe it because in any other place on the plannet you would find a lot of stunners working and shopping in expensive shops.

As many said daygame doesnt exist in Rio, I had some success but girls are generally very scared and focused on getting to their destination without getting robbed. Propably the only place I been to that you can approach better looking girls and have success during the night then the day but you need to go to very fancy and expensive nightclubs to have this oportunity. Average in cheaper places like Lapa is about 2.5-3, so you have to be really desperated and horny to hunt there. On the flipside you can get laid every time when you go there...

Funny that you mentioned UK, because while Brazil is the most overrated country on the world I think UK is the opossite. I am normally based in Manchester and the city centre it is full of 8s+...all the girls very well taken care of, dressed up sexy and slutty so even if they are not that hot they look sexy + you got all the ethnicities and races here (a lot of eastern europeans and asians). Random girl working in selfridge or harvey nichols would easly be the best looking girl in leblon shopping
That is fucking illegal to put a 2/10 worker in armani store in Uk.
Both Manchester and London are daygame paradises and during the nightime all the girls look like they are going to the wedding or some other huge occasion even if it is casual nightime.

Cliffs:
UK>Brazil for sure

[Lino]

Sure newbee you are right, have fun with your UK pigs, I'll take care of the brasilian.

[Jungle]

(08-10-2017 05:46 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Feels like Brazil was an 8 or 9 on the forum in 2010 now it's a 5.5. From someone that wants to go the reports of crime, fat, butterface, expensive, scare the cat easily seems to just have steadily increased at a constant rate over the years, and the appeal seems to shrink.

^ 100%. I've definitely noticed this rhetoric in the forum over the years, Brazil will be in the running for "The Biggest Decline" in the past decade.

It's still an above average place for RVF members, and like every place someone will do better the more effort they put in such as by learning the language, immersing oneself in the exotic culture and resonating with the energy of the people... every garota I've been with has been electric in bed and full of that latin passion... but it certainly doesn't live up to its pop-culture reputation and it definitely isn't what it was yesteryear or in a past glory era.

(08-10-2017 09:55 PM)Llama Deam Wrote:  

The obesity crisis has hit Brazil pretty hard, but you can still find plenty of beauties.

^ This being the primary reason, to be honest. Supply & demand.

[shotgun]

(08-08-2017 10:25 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

Brazil isn't shit for women, at least not for me. I've met some absolute babes in Brazil.

Here is my prescriptive being a foreigner in both countries. This only applies to ME, others may have different experiences and I do not claim to be an expert.

Colombia has hotter women than Brazil.
Colombian women have better bodies.
Colombia is safer than Brazil.
Brazil has better beaches.
Brazilian men have better physique and game than Colombian men, so expect competition.
Brazil is easier to get laid using social media.
Colombia is easier to get laid using daygame.
Brazil is easier to get laid using nightgame.
Brazilians are much sluttier than any women in the world except asian gutter sluts.
Brazil is more expensive than Colombia.
Nightlife in Brazil is better and on average a lot more sexier, especially watching funk dancing.
Colombians party until 2am. Brazil parties until 6am.
You'll get shot a lot faster in Brasil than Colombia, and people will probably stand around and watch without offering any help whatsoever.

Overall I prefer Colombia, but Brazil is a good alternative. The crime keeps people away from Brazil. Saying that, I'll be back in Brasil in the next month doing my thing. I cant rate culture and food because all I care about is women.

Again, this is only my experience, and others may have a different one.

I agree with all your points. I would only add that Brazil offers more variety than Colombia. A guy who doesn't have a particular preference for latinas or black women, should get bored with Colombia fairly quickly. Whereas in Brazil there are more ethnicities around, depending on the city you hit. I do agree that average beauty in Colombia definitely beats average beauty in Brazil.

Night game in Brazil is still one of the best in the world, hands down, provided you know where to go. In my personal experience, it's miles better than most places in the Americas and Europe, the FSU being one of the exceptions.

Online apps are past their prime, but still more conducive to bangs than in most other countries. It's not Ukraine, or Russia, though. Quality has taken a nosedive, especially on Tinder, compared to only three years ago. If you're not willing to lower your standards a bit, it can be a grind.

Day game is very tough, as been said, because of safety issues. I know some guys who have been successful with that, but they developed very specific niches.

[Ouroboros]

(08-10-2017 05:46 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Feels like Brazil was an 8 or 9 on the forum in 2010 now it's a 5.5. From someone that wants to go the reports of crime, fat, butterface, expensive, scare the cat easily seems to just have steadily increased at a constant rate over the years, and the appeal seems to shrink.

Most of those reports are on Rio and Sao Paulo, and Roosh gave a fairly negative assessment of the latter quite early on (http://www.rooshv.com/is-sao-paulo-brazi...he-visit). They haven't lessened my enthusiasm about visiting Belo Horizonte some day.

[RandomlyGeneratedUsername]

I am Brazilian, lived my whole life in São Paulo and recently moved to Rio de Janeiro because of my job. I have also lived in the UK some years ago.

I’ve been lurking around for a long time but decided to register just for this post. But I want to continue participating and giving my opinion and tips about Brazil.

I must say that, unfortunately, those forum members with negative opinions about flirting women in Rio de Janeiro and, to some extent, Brazil, are correct.

However, one thing we have to keep in mind is that Brazil is a continental country, with different culture and customs in its various regions. The culture and customs in Rio de Janeiro are very different from São Paulo, which are very different from the North and South Region, which are very different from... you get my point. Each region has its peculiarities.

Is Brazil good for gaming women? It depends on where we’re talking about. Rio is not.

Although I now live in Rio de Janeiro, I travel often to São Paulo. The difference in quality and attitude of the girls are astounding.

Regarding attractiveness of girls:
I live in a low/medium middle class neighborhood. Most women here in my neighborhood, all ages, I would rate their SMV values between 2-5. It’s very hard during my daily commute (yes, 5 min walk), going to the supermarket, running errands, etc in my neighborhood, to find a girl that catches my attention. To use the example a poster above gave, if you took a random girl working at Selfridges in the UK and put her in my neighborhood she would be considered a supermodel.

Honestly, sometimes when I see pictures of British girls my breath is taken away because I find them very pretty. Yes, British girls are ugly compared to Eastern European or Scandinavian girls, but they are angels compared to most girls I see in my daily life. To put this in a numeric estimation, if you go downtown in London or Birmingham, for instance, you will see maybe 10-20 bangable girls in a block (HB7+). Here, if you go downtown, you will see 1 bangable girl (HB7+) per 3 blocks.

Also, I have to note that most of them don’t care about their appearance. Most of them are overweight, don’t wear makeup, wear random clothes.

However, if we go to a rich neighborhood (for instance, Leblon, Barra, Ipanema), the situation starts to change. We start to see more fit and slim girls, girls wearing makeup, etc. So my math of 1 HB7+ per 3 blocks would increase to 3-5 HB7+ per 1 block. It’s a lot better, it’s like we’re in another city. But it is still a lot worse than the UK.

In São Paulo, you see a lot more pretty girls around. They pay more attention to their appearance and their body (yes, I know, Rio has a beach and São Paulo, go figure, I don’t get it like you). Comparing girls from Rio and São Paulo is like comparing girls of different countries. In São Paulo you will see a lot more of HB7+, less fat, more fit girls.

Regarding fat acceptance:
It’s arrived in Brazil. The media, newspapers and mainstream culture keeps repeating “beautiful at all sizes”, “real women have curves”, etc. And judging by the ratio of fit:fat girls I see in my daily life (and online dating), I am sorry to say that women have already adopted fat acceptance. They have let themselves go, and what’s funny is that they think they are the hottest shit, behaving orders of magnitude more arrogantly than fit and hot women. Brazil is becoming an obese country, and health authorities are starting to panic. But, with “nutrition experts” that go on TV and say fatlogic like “if you eat less you will get fat because of starvation mode”, I think the problem will get a lot worse. The nutrition advice most people are given by the mainstream estabilishment is pure pseudoscience, and worse, incorrect. Even doctors are guilty of this. I used to be fat some years ago. I started dieting. Now I am hot with less than 15% body fat. But my doctor tried to diagnose me with anorexia because I dropped from 33% body fat to 18%. I’ve also heard similar comments by family and friends. Yes, in Brazilian mainstream culture nowadays, if you’re not overweight, you’re an holocaust victim about to die of hunger.

Regarding feminism:
I am also very sad to say that third wave feminism (aka men-hating feminism) has arrived and is in full motion in Brazilian culture. Do you want to find a lovely and submissive woman? Well, good luck then. Go to Thailand, not Brazil. Women here are arrogant, confrontational, think they are the hottest shit ever (even though they are hamplanets with moustaches and their bodies stink), are bitter, troublemakers. They look very manly if we look at their behavior. I mean, worse than manly, because they are a caricature of men’s worst behavior, with a vagina attached. Yes, she will get offended if you ask her to wash the plate where she ate. Yes, she will get offended and call you a “chauvinistic pig” if you suggest doing anything for you, not for her. This specially applies to women who go to public universities (whatever the field of study) and/or women below SMV 8 (go figure). We’re on that level where women are starting to say that if a men says “hi” to her and she is not attract to him, that is the same thing as rape.

Of course, SOME women are not like that. But most of them are.

I would say that São Paulo feminism and women arrogance is the baseline. You encounter die-hard feminists there, but also down-to-earth girls (although not that easily). Rio is worse. Rio women are very difficult to deal bitches. Northeast region is somewhat (but not that much) better.

Women in São Paulo are a lot more pleasant to flirt and talk to than women in Rio. They act nicer, less arrogant and more interested.

Regarding attitude: see above (“regarding feminism”).

Regarding dating dynamics:

The ugliness situation in Rio is so bad that even those ugly female trolls get catcalled (usually by low value men). I wonder if that contributes to their arrogance?

At the same time, Brazilian men are usually manginas when flirting. But very dominating when in a relationship.

Day game, in some situations, is frowned upon because of the violence levels in the country. If you approach a girl on the streets or a park there’s a high chance of she thinking you’re going to rob her. However, in shopping malls, social events, closed spaces, safe spaces (safe in the context of security from criminals), it can happen normally.

Rio de Janeiro attracts a lot of tourists but it’s not a city where people all over the country go to “make it”, like NYC or London. That city would be São Paulo, not Rio. This means that most people in Rio lived all their lifes in the city and their social circles date back to the elementary school and neighbors from where they lived since they were a toddler (and probably still live at the same place). It’s hard to go to a social event and see girls alone, even at lunch time on business days, they will probably be with their posse. You are an outsider (to these girls social circles, which are huge). That puts you in a big disadvantage. The Red Pill teaches us that girls project their on way of thinking on us. So some of them must think that since they have a large social circle and you don’t, you’re some kind of weirdo nobody wants. You can approach women outside of your social circle, aka cold approach, but that will be a very strange situation for her. She will not be used to it. Most guys in Rio don’t cold approach. Rio is too much social circles. Too much for my taste and my lifestyle. It’s a society that doesn’t understand and/or accepts well the “lone wolf”.

São Paulo is completely different. Since a good portion of the city’s population comes from other places, they won’t have social circles so large and will be more open to meeting “strangers”. From what I hear it must be similar to NYC. And my experience shows me it’s similar to London.

For solo flirting, São Paulo is a lot better than Rio.

Nightlife: In Rio, it’s the only place you will see men approaching strange women. But it is expensive (VERY expensive, A LOT more expensive than it was in the UK).

Most types of nightlife places are, both in Rio and São Paulo, with the exception of the beach:

- The beach: Since I have very white skin and want to keep it that way, I don’t go to the beach to avoid the sun. I could go during the night but it’s dangerous. So I can’t give an opinion about that.
- Baile Funk: cheap, shitty music, but usually in dangerous places, run by shady businessmen (not to say criminals) and loud music that you won’t be able to talk to your girl. WARNING: If you’re a white guy that looks that has a little financial success, you can be mugged, kidnapped or even shot at one of those places.
- Forró: cheap, shitty music that will torture your ears, loud music that you won’t be able to talk to your girl
- Samba/Pagode: middle-range prices, shitty music that all songs sound the same, loud music that you won’t be able to talk to your girl
- Electronic Dance Music Nightclub: expensive, loud music that you won’t be able to talk to your girl, but if they have a lounge playing music on a lower volume, that might be nice - but will not be easy to find one of them
- Concert: middle-range prices, loud music that you won’t be able to talk to your girl
- Bars: You might be thinking a place where you can have a drink and talk to strangers. Maybe standing up or on a sofa. You’re wrong. In Brazil they are simply normal restaurants, where you sit in a small table with your friends. They have a more informal atmosphere but they are still normal restaurants, in my view. Terrible place to approach strangers. Unless you want to sit on an empty seat on a table with a group of girls that you don’t know, and that will be seen as very invasive by them.
- Pub: In Brazil they are bars. The same thing. Don’t get fooled by the name. If you want a real pub, you want a “lounge”.
- Lounge: It would be similar to a British pub. A place that has drinks, sometimes food, tables to sit, but also stools, you can stand up and talk to people or sit in a couch with strangers and interact with them. I usually see them in hotels. Oh, and there’s background music, but in a volume where it doesn’t hinder conversation. They are very rare in Brazil. I don’t know any place like that in Rio.

So you can see that using nightgame in Brazil sucks. In UK it was a lot easier because there were more quality in the venues and some of them were design to allow socialization (like pubs, lounges and some bars). I am the opinion for nightgame, a British pub/lounge atmosphere is the best place. But they are almost non existent in Brazil.

One interesting thing is that even though both men and women in Rio are ugly, the ratio is still in favor of women. I would say that for every HB7+ girl, there would be 3 SMV 7+ chads. Very few men take care of themselves, but this small population that do is enough to give the few pretty women (which are too few) too many options. In São Paulo, I would say that for every hot man, there would be 3 hot girls.

Regarding the “foreigner advantage/foreigner exotic factor”: It could be an advantage with the upper class white girls, and it could be an disadvantage with lower class black girls. I have no idea why. I would love to understand it too. But that has been my experience and I have also heard other men saying the same thing.

Conclusion: Don’t go to Rio. If you REALLY want to know Brazil for some reason, go to São Paulo or the Northeast region instead. I also hear very good comments from Belo Horizonte (Minas Gerais) girls (if you like olive skin white girls). But if all you do is bang white girls, Northern Europe is a lot better. If you like black girls, go to Africa. If you like Asians, go to Thailand. If you want to bang latins, from what I hear Colombia would be a paradise. Honestly, the best city that I’ve been for single men who are lone wolves is London. Great atmosphere, great venues, beautiful girls of all types, colors and sizes, and very receptive girls. I wonder if London will keep that way because of the Brexit, but I digress.

[rottenapple]

Good post Random, how would you say the Northern cities differ from the South? Have you been? Any recommendations?

[Salsero]

I have been in Brazil (Rio, Salvador, Belo Horizonte, Fortaleza) for five weeks now, and lived in Colombia for a year, DR for three months yadda yadda....
Linux's post is spot on for me on all counts,
Brazil is horrendously expensive compared to other Latin pussy paradises that RVFers like, and foreigner factor is markedly less. Perhaps this is because Brazilians are more worldly, which is just one of the advantages in Brazil.
I was surprised at the lack of care Brazilian women put into their appearance (clothes, body, etc) and would even rate Santiago in the DR and almost any city in Colombia much better on that front. In personal experience, receptiveness on approaches here has been similar to Colombia, but getting the bang is much harder.
Having said that Brazil is great fun with tons to do, and the friends you make here will help you immensely. Integrity and the person's word counts more in Brazil and infrastructure/nightlife/food is great.
Ultimately Brazil is great for a holiday and adventure, but unless you have a great job here or huge bankroll, fluent Portuguese and a reason other than just women to be here, there are much better options to swoop in LatAm.

[Brosemite]

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

Also, I have to note that most of them don’t care about their appearance. Most of them are overweight, don’t wear makeup, wear random clothes.

However, if we go to a rich neighborhood (for instance, Leblon, Barra, Ipanema), the situation starts to change. We start to see more fit and slim girls, girls wearing makeup, etc. So my math of 1 HB7+ per 3 blocks would increase to 3-5 HB7+ per 1 block. It’s a lot better, it’s like we’re in another city. But it is still a lot worse than the UK.

You have some upper middle class women in Rio who will not take care of themselves to spite men bc well..they're total feminist cunts. I know this from experience.

I find it harder to game in Ipanema and Leblon though it's definitely more open game in Barra da Tijuca. I remember seeing some gal with a pretty face and the greatest ass giving me IOI...(if I didn't have company that day..)

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

In São Paulo, you see a lot more pretty girls around. They pay more attention to their appearance and their body (yes, I know, Rio has a beach and São Paulo, go figure, I don’t get it like you). Comparing girls from Rio and São Paulo is like comparing girls of different countries. In São Paulo you will see a lot more of HB7+, less fat, more fit girls.

Regarding fat acceptance:

Paulistanas also have more interesting personalities too. I'll gladly sacrifice a beach city with gals that don't suit my preferences for an inland location with a higher density of females that take better care of themselves.

With regards to fat acceptance, certain gals that I boned back in my city (Curitiba) or barely missed out on have gotten have gotten chubby. CWB still has a great gym/park culture so a good portion of people still stay in great shape. It's just weird to see how some upper middle class gals have let themselves go though...

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

Regarding feminism:
I am also very sad to say that third wave feminism (aka men-hating feminism) has arrived and is in full motion in Brazilian culture. Do you want to find a lovely and submissive woman? Well, good luck then. Go to Thailand, not Brazil. Women here are arrogant, confrontational, think they are the hottest shit ever (even though they are hamplanets with moustaches and their bodies stink), are bitter, troublemakers. They look very manly if we look at their behavior. I mean, worse than manly, because they are a caricature of men’s worst behavior, with a vagina attached. Yes, she will get offended if you ask her to wash the plate where she ate. Yes, she will get offended and call you a “chauvinistic pig” if you suggest doing anything for you, not for her. This specially applies to women who go to public universities (whatever the field of study) and/or women below SMV 8 (go figure). We’re on that level where women are starting to say that if a men says “hi” to her and she is not attract to him, that is the same thing as rape.

Of course, SOME women are not like that. But most of them are.

I would say that São Paulo feminism and women arrogance is the baseline. You encounter die-hard feminists there, but also down-to-earth girls (although not that easily). Rio is worse. Rio women are very difficult to deal bitches. Northeast region is somewhat (but not that much) better.

Women in São Paulo are a lot more pleasant to flirt and talk to than women in Rio. They act nicer, less arrogant and more interested.

Regarding attitude: see above (“regarding feminism”).

If we talk about crime in Rio to these feminists, they'll simply ignore it. If you word a sentence in a way that can be misconstrued as "gender insensitive," you'll get a big lecture from Carioca women. It's really annoying.

It's one thing to be unattractive without makeup but it's another thing when women go the extra mile to let themselves go rooted from feminism. That sounds like certain Carioca chicks I know.

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

Regarding dating dynamics:

The ugliness situation in Rio is so bad that even those ugly female trolls get catcalled (usually by low value men). I wonder if that contributes to their arrogance?

At the same time, Brazilian men are usually manginas when flirting. But very dominating when in a relationship.

The ugliness situation is so bad that Carioca men with the means are dating Paulistanas & Sulistas in grand proportions. I've lost count of how many gals I met in Curitiba that were dating a dude long distance whom lived in Rio.

People used to joke about thirsty Paulistanos taking over Balneariu Camboriu & Floripa during the Summer peak seasons. However, I can heavily recall moments when I'd have interactions with Carioca men in Sampa baladas (clubs) only for them to cockblock the shit out of me.

Then again, many women from the favorable Brazilian cities (Sampa, Curitiba, Belo Horizonte) like to escape the female competition within their vicinity and boost their egos by looking exponentially prettier in Rio where many local females refuse to groom themselves properly.

You have quite a few Cariocas now living in Curitiba; their families essentially left due to a combination of increasing safety issues & just getting priced out while being able to enjoy a higher quality of life in Paraná. For whatever reason, these gals have the biggest attitudes in CWB too haha.

I haven't been to either Goiânia or Brasília but the difference between the women in both cities is astounding; Goiânia = friendly & Brasília = really shitty attitudes. Doesn't surprise me that many women in Brasília stem from Rio originally. Go figure.

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

Day game, in some situations, is frowned upon because of the violence levels in the country. If you approach a girl on the streets or a park there’s a high chance of she thinking you’re going to rob her. However, in shopping malls, social events, closed spaces, safe spaces (safe in the context of security from criminals), it can happen normally.

My favorite play was dressing well in a cooler climate like CWB & making moves inside grocery stores, restaurants, shopping malls, etc. It also helped that I looked like a youthful & harmless Korean-faced dude.

Random street game during the day is absolutely rough due to the aforementioned safety issues. Night time feirinhas (food truck events) and street game outside of posh nightlife venues were an absolute gold mine for me though.

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

You can approach women outside of your social circle, aka cold approach, but that will be a very strange situation for her. She will not be used to it. Most guys in Rio don’t cold approach. Rio is too much social circles. Too much for my taste and my lifestyle. It’s a society that doesn’t understand and/or accepts well the “lone wolf”.

São Paulo is completely different. Since a good portion of the city’s population comes from other places, they won’t have social circles so large and will be more open to meeting “strangers”. From what I hear it must be similar to NYC. And my experience shows me it’s similar to London.

For solo flirting, São Paulo is a lot better than Rio

It's easy to get invited out to group settings say a street party in Lapa though it's just really aimless chatter; despite initial friendliness, it's common to feel a bit blown off by the inside convos & therefore hard to crack the personal space of others.

Concur with your views on Sampa yet again.

One of my biggest regrets was never really getting the chance to just daygame in the business districts/shopping malls around Morumbi, Brooklin, Vila Olímpia, or Itaim Bibi. Most of my game in Sampa was just pure night game within clubs or on the streets. Love the city, but it's just so damn expensive to spend a week or two there for pure daygaming in those locales.

(09-09-2017 11:07 AM)RandomlyGeneratedUsername Wrote:  

One interesting thing is that even though both men and women in Rio are ugly, the ratio is still in favor of women. I would say that for every HB7+ girl, there would be 3 SMV 7+ chads. Very few men take care of themselves, but this small population that do is enough to give the few pretty women (which are too few) too many options. In São Paulo, I would say that for every hot man, there would be 3 hot girls.

^As I mentioned above, lot of these Rio "Chads" date women from interior cities always looking for an excuse to simultaneously vacation at the beach for free & escape their own female competition. Can't blame them either.

Though I am jealous of these dudes, I feel a bit sorry for them as well. High SMV players in other cities date hot pieces of ass but always run into great opportunities to fuck chicks on the side. In Rio, guys with hot gfs don't really have that privilege though...

[soltopia]

Brazilian food is some of the worst food on the continent, let alone anywhere else! Greasy crap with little flavouring.

I spent more money in Mcdonalds.

Brazil is also expensive as hell and dangerous too. Corruption is on another level. Any Brazillian with half a brain has left, or is a gang member or has contacts and plays the corruption game.

[Australia Sucks]

I really want to hit up Brazil one day to see the nature. I have seen some pictures of the beaches and jungles and they look pretty damn awesome. Is the nature in Brazil really that good or is it overhyped?

[Brazilianguy]

Hey there, guys!

Like you can guess by my very unoriginal username, I was born and raised (mostly) in Brazil.
I´m originally from São Paulo, but have lived and worked in the Amazon region, Paraná (south) and Minas Gerais because my job grants me some mobility within the country.

Some will say I´m trying to discourage competition from foreign guys, but the truth is that Brazil isn´t the pussy paradise of yesteryears.

Modern man hating feminism is being spread in college campuses and the media for about 10 years and women have become addicted to social media and smartphone use (which of course, removes any check on their behaviour, as they have an unlimited supply of online suitors).

The typical male stereotypes promoted by the media are: the super rich celebrity, the gay/bi hipster and the nice guy who marries an older woman.
The female sterotypes, on the other hand, are: the professional, independent woman who gets married to Mr. Catch when she´s in her 30s, the 20 something lesbian chick and the feminist SJW who´s into equal rights and anti rape campaigns.

This strange cultural brew results in a society in which it´s very rare even for accomplished guys to secure nubile women (18-28) to date and have sex with, meaning that families aren´t being formed and the educated classes aren´t reproducing.

Most guys who come here will have a hard time banging chicks unless they significantly drop their standards, have a huge bankroll or have an ecosystem (ie. DJ, band member, etc).
In other words, traditional game won´t work most of the time.
It´s common to go to parties and bars with single men and women and people just don´t hook up. Brazilian society has become very asexual.

Add to that the economic situation of the country (first world prices and third world salaries on a 30% unemployment rate which is hidden by the government), highest crime rate in history and overall lack of hope in the future and you have a recipe for a very apathetic country.

Most people are happy to wake up to a shitty job (when they have one) and go through the motions of living in debt and posting happy faces on facebook.

I had the pleasure of meeting up with Salsero from the forum and showing him around Belo Horizonte and his overall impression is that Brazilian chicks are pretty hard to bang, a lot more difficult than women from other countries in Latin America.

Most of my friends in the 20-40 age range are planning to leave the country to other latin destinations.

[lonewolf1992]

I've killed it this year with brazilian women. The hottest bodies I've seen and most beautiful faces I've kissed. I don't know, but i guess when you guys say colombian women are better is because of caleñas, costeñas and paisas. But brazilians this year made me realise I completely despise the women from bogota and their shitty attitudes. Besides it was a lot easier to get dates from them and more pleasurable to talk with. Cheers!

[Bill Brasky]

I'm moving to Florianopolis with my girlfriend in about 2 months. We are in a pretty serious relationship so the girls of Brazil and their bangability doesn't concern me much.

She wanted to move to Rio as she has a job lined up there but after researching the city, I have no interest in living in that city as the crime seems astronomically high.

I chose Floripa as it seems like a decent city and safe. I'm not usually worried about safety issues but the rest of the country seems out of control. My girl and her father actually wish the military dictatorship would return and a lot of Brazilians feel the same.

I also need a decent IT infrastructure and fast internet for my job. Floripa from what I've read has the best IT infrastructure in the country.

Another thing that I've noticed is that I don't like high altitude cities like DF, Bogota and This gives another point for Floripa.

I've heard contrasting opinions on Floripa; South American Riviera, underrated, vastly overrated, beaches are great, the beaches suck, internet is the best in Brazil, internet isn't that great, guys killings it Brazil with the girls, couldn't get laid to save my life, lived like a king on 50k USD, Floripa costs as much as Miami/Los Angeles.

The only thing about Floripa that seems consistent is the lack of crime compared to the rest of the country, especially Rio (I refuse to live there).

Any Brazilians or expats living in Floripa have any insight?

[Brosemite]

(09-23-2017 11:40 PM)soltopia Wrote:  

Brazilian food is some of the worst food on the continent, let alone anywhere else! Greasy crap with little flavouring.

I spent more money in Mcdonalds.

Not sure how this is relevant. Could you explain what you ate?

[Going strong]

(09-24-2017 03:36 PM)Bill Brasky Wrote:  

I'm moving to Florianopolis with my girlfriend in about 2 months. We are in a pretty serious relationship so the girls of Brazil and their bangability doesn't concern me much.

She wanted to move to Rio as she has a job lined up there but after researching the city, I have no interest in living in that city as the crime seems astronomically high.

I chose Floripa as it seems like a decent city and safe. I'm not usually worried about safety issues but the rest of the country seems out of control. My girl and her father actually wish the military dictatorship would return and a lot of Brazilians feel the same.

I also need a decent IT infrastructure and fast internet for my job. Floripa from what I've read has the best IT infrastructure in the country.

Another thing that I've noticed is that I don't like high altitude cities like DF, Bogota and This gives another point for Floripa.

I've heard contrasting opinions on Floripa; South American Riviera, underrated, vastly overrated, beaches are great, the beaches suck, internet is the best in Brazil, internet isn't that great, guys killings it Brazil with the girls, couldn't get laid to save my life, lived like a king on 50k USD, Floripa costs as much as Miami/Los Angeles.

The only thing about Floripa that seems consistent is the lack of crime compared to the rest of the country, especially Rio (I refuse to live there).

Any Brazilians or expats living in Floripa have any insight?

I went to Floripa around eight years ago, in local Summer time, and loved it.

But there are, say, 2 kinda distinct Floripas, one on the mainland and the other on the island. The island part is absolutely great, good infrastructure, modern buses, various beaches of different vibes, safe - and full of Argentinian tourists (no fatties) of course, in January-February...

[Bill Brasky]

(09-24-2017 05:36 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(09-23-2017 11:40 PM)soltopia Wrote:  

Brazilian food is some of the worst food on the continent, let alone anywhere else! Greasy crap with little flavouring.

I spent more money in Mcdonalds.

Not sure how this is relevant. Could you explain what you ate?

I've only eaten at Fogo do Chao and it's by far one of my favorite places. Meat, beans and some steamed veggies. It's hard to fuck up.

[Quintus Curtius]

It's painful for me to admit that there's a lot of truth in this thread. Some parts of Brasil are going through a rough period right now. But this is just how the universe works. Things average out.

Adrastia, the goddess of divine retribution, if you want to call it that. She punishes us when we get too full of ourselves. Oh, does she ever.

The commodities party of the early 2000s ended, and the politicos all got fat and happy on the treasury's dime. And then it all dried up. The Olympics turned out to be one big scam. Now everyone's pissed off, with nowhere to vent.

I know Brasilianguy well, who has posted in this thread. What he's being very modest about is that he's in the top 1% of Brasilian dudes. No bullshit: physical appearance, build, job, etc. And if HE's having a tough time, then you know things really ARE rough!
(Although I do think his standards are a bit high!)

My impressions of Rio are that yes, it's tougher than it used to be 5 or 6 years ago, but it's not prohibitively tough. The big problem is safety and (to a lesser extent) high costs.

About safety. I never had a problem with crime until April of this year, when I got careless and paid the price. Oh well. Life. Adrastia. Whatever you want to call it. Roll with it.

The bigger issue is that people are changing their social life patterns. Because everyone's afraid of street crime, people are not going out as much. But they are still going out...it's just that the roosting places have shifted. You need more social circle game than before.

Everybody bitches about prices in Rio but I never saw it as a big problem. You have to develop instincts to spot good deals. It's called hustle. Brasil is not the place for guys who want to sit on their asses and wonder why it's not as safe and orderly as Germany or Japan. It isn't. It's never going to be. So get over it. You have to be part savage, part idealist, and part romantic, to love Brasil. You need to feel that tribal vibe, which pules just under the surface of things.

You have to rely more on social media: it's more efficient and cost-effective, so get over it. Brazilianguy hates social media (I keep busing his balls about this!), but he's one of the few dudes who can get by without it.

Once you have time and history in a place, you've invested blood and sweat equity. You don't want to give it up. You have a footprint there. As for me, I'm grateful for Brasil for all the good times and great experiences. And even if, God forbid, I ever catch a lost bullet or something walking around, at least I can go out with a smile on my face.

[Brosemite]

(09-26-2017 12:31 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My impressions of Rio are that yes, it's tougher than it used to be 5 or 6 years ago, but it's not prohibitively tough. The big problem is safety and (to a lesser extent) high costs.

About safety. I never had a problem with crime until April of this year, when I got careless and paid the price. Oh well. Life. Adrastia. Whatever you want to call it. Roll with it.

The bigger issue is that people are changing their social life patterns. Because everyone's afraid of street crime, people are not going out as much. But they are still going out...it's just that the roosting places have shifted. You need more social circle game than before.

It's not just Rio but many tier 2 cities in Brazil have gotten more dangerous since the economy spiraled downwards end of 2014. Noticed a huge difference between my travels in 2014/2015 not to mention each passing week felt a bit unsafe on the streets.

Overall, locals were much more interested in foreigners when the economy was doing well. Bad times just brought people down & in a sense justifiably so.

(09-26-2017 12:31 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Everybody bitches about prices in Rio but I never saw it as a big problem. You have to develop instincts to spot good deals. It's called hustle. Brasil is not the place for guys who want to sit on their asses and wonder why it's not as safe and orderly as Germany or Japan. It isn't. It's never going to be. So get over it. You have to be part savage, part idealist, and part romantic, to love Brasil. You need to feel that tribal vibe, which pules just under the surface of things.

Perfect way of putting things. Explains why Brazil fits us well.

(09-26-2017 12:31 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

You have to rely more on social media: it's more efficient and cost-effective, so get over it. Brazilianguy hates social media (I keep busing his balls about this!), but he's one of the few dudes who can get by without it.

For invites to "insider" events, parties, and other social stuff...this is very important in Brazil. Gals that I missed out on bangs with are now hitting me up big time via Instagram/Facebook/Whatsapp ever since my disappearance from residing there. It's a big tool; find a way to embrace it.

(09-26-2017 12:31 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Once you have time and history in a place, you've invested blood and sweat equity. You don't want to give it up. You have a footprint there. As for me, I'm grateful for Brasil for all the good times and great experiences. And even if, God forbid, I ever catch a lost bullet or something walking around, at least I can go out with a smile on my face.

To really get the most out of Brazil, you essentially have to be more vested in it than many of the other places I've traveled to. It's one of the most rewarding places to be in once you finally "get it."

[Brazilianguy]

If culture molds society, this is all you need to know about modern day Brazil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Lw6k7k9Rk

[Jungle]

(09-24-2017 03:36 PM)Bill Brasky Wrote:  

Any Brazilians or expats living in Floripa have any insight?

I'm not a Brazilian or a Brazilian expat... but I have visited Floripa...

My insight - Floripa is massively over-rated and I don't think I'd ever return.... I wasn't a fan of the food, the amenities, the locals, the cost... Floripa just doesn't live up to the hype in my opinion, but I've been to over 40 countries so perhaps I've been spoilt a bit.

On the bright side, the beaches and climate in Floripa are incredible.

Apart from other things, maybe one of the biggest gripes with Brazil is how crazy expensive things are. The local salaries are shithouse and yet things cost 50-80% as much as 1st world countries, it doesn't make any sense.

Buenos Aires is a better option to live in basically every category (except beaches obviously).

Nevertheless, have fun

[Marcus187]

I've seen some of the most brutal videos coming from Brazil. More brutal than ISIS beheadings. It really made me think what the fuck is wrong with that country and their people.

Someone told me this is limited to the favelas and certain regions, like Bahia. Can someone confirm that?

[Brazilianguy]

My impression as a Brazilian is that the country has become a mix of globalism and socialism.

Regarding culture and society, Brazilian population is pretty much dumbed down by the media and educational system, which is one of the worst in the world.

Brazilian media is very similar to that of the USA concerning their relations to the globalist elite and the consequent promotion of the culture of decay (homosexuality, inversion of natural sex relations, race war, SJWism, etc), consumerism and bad music and cinema.

They are pushing bad to standardize homosexuality among the general population.
The popstar of the moment is a transvestite called Pabllo Vittar who caters to teenagers and young people in their 20s (think of him as a gay Anitta).

National economy is pretty bad: it´s hard to find good jobs, so much so that every body wants to work for the government.
The total tax rate reaches an unbelievable 70-80% of total earnings, but public education, health, transport, justice system and police are shit.

Overall, it´s really hard to make it in current day Brazil if you´re an honest, hard working guy, so of course the national brain drain is huge (not that the government cares anyway).

I´d say things were much better in the 90s and early 2000s, during my teens and 20s.
Every older guy I knew who took his life seriously was getting laid and paid, and people were still dating, getting married and having children.

Needless to say, it was also great for foreigners who came to Brazil on vacation, as they were highly valued by the women and looked up to by the men (current day Brazilian culture of envy and anti-wealth hadn´t yet taken hold and people still aspired to be rich, intelligent and successful, as opposed to looking good on facebook).

So what you have nowadays is this: poor, indebted, and dumbed down people who are envious of "rich foreigners" and white men (ridiculous, I know) and low class women who are hard to lay because of social media.

But the nature looks pretty.

[shotgun]

(09-24-2017 03:36 PM)Bill Brasky Wrote:  

I've heard contrasting opinions on Floripa; South American Riviera, underrated, vastly overrated, beaches are great, the beaches suck, internet is the best in Brazil, internet isn't that great, guys killings it Brazil with the girls, couldn't get laid to save my life, lived like a king on 50k USD, Floripa costs as much as Miami/Los Angeles.

The only thing about Floripa that seems consistent is the lack of crime compared to the rest of the country, especially Rio (I refuse to live there).

Any Brazilians or expats living in Floripa have any insight?

I don't live there but I have visited many times.

What I can tell you is that prices get crazy expensive during summer, when tourists (mostly southern and southeastern Brazilians, as well as Argentineans) take over, but very affordable during the other seasons of the year. Your experiences will vary not only according to the time of the year you're there, but also the regions you go to, as it's a big island and the different parts of town cater to different scenes. For example, Jurere attracts the high end crowd, Canasvieiras is full of Argie middle class tourists, Mole and Joaquina are surfer beaches, Trindade hosts the main university, etc. So basically you have to find your niche.

Floripa's population is relatively small (250k living on the island plus another 210k living on the mainland in Sao Jose), but it does attract a lot of professional and academic transplants from smaller cities in Santa Catarina state, so it's not that bad in terms of running out of options.

One major downside is that the island is very spread out, so you HAVE to own a car in order to access the best things it has to offer.