Quote: (08-07-2017 10:55 PM)BrickLake Wrote:  

Quote: (08-07-2017 10:46 PM)Suits Wrote:  

This is an NTP level mini-data sheet.

Note the lack of personal anecdotes, the mind-numbing generalities and the focus on platitudical advice.

OP is an "invented persona" troll.

There is a lot of good advice in this thread regarding lifestyle improvement, tactics/techniques, and potential blind spots or congruencies I might have.

That's what I posted for.

I'm not here to talk about business, that's your own path and there's already libraries of great reading material on the subject.

We aren't asking because we need the advice. There are many of us who have excellent sources of business information and even successful mentors available to us.

We're asking because we don't believe your story.

Quote: (08-07-2017 10:55 PM)BrickLake Wrote:  

Is it that hard to believe some dude with some cash and a pretty good setup is frustrated because he still can't pull the women he wants?

It's not that hard to believe.

However, there are some details in your story that simply don't add up.

You're either (intentionally or unintentionally) leaving facts out, exaggerating certain facts or outright lying.

No one has perfect perception of their world, but some people have a decidedly poor perception of reality.

If you are one of those people, you would be incapable of giving us a proper picture of your situation.

Without knowing you in person, it's safer to be doubtful of the information you provide us with. This is doubly true when you post a laughably amateur mini-datasheet of "business advice."

Millionaire international playboy with game has trouble sleeping with hot women.

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this right now. I see dudes breaking out fake game nerd statistics on the sexual market determining its quadruple as hard to get an exceptionally attractive girl to justify putting putting hot pussy on a pedistole,but despite that little synopsis deal I just don't see how things add up. Who the hell are these girls fucking then? Athletes? Politicians? Artists? Club promoters? DJs? All the rich good looking cats who don't fit those categories go by the wayside?

Quote: (08-07-2017 11:13 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

Millionaire international playboy with game has trouble sleeping with hot women....

On the other hand, at least he doesn't have to worry about having his phone stolen.

Aloha!

OP, other more highly repped members have either directly or indirectly said what I am going to say.


The problem seems to be your game, and on a more fundamental level your personality. At 6'2'' and around 300 lbs, living in my parents house, and trying to spend as little money as possible, I was able to pull women once I got off my ass and decided to fix my mistakes. The whole rating system for women is entirely subjective, like one man's 9 is another's 6 and one's 5 is a 7. That being said, you mentioned 8's and 9's are Maxim quality girls and you seemed to be speaking only on the physical side of things. I live in Houston, a city with tons of attractive women (although not the highest quality in the US and certainly not in the world), but I can't remember too many times in my life where I've seen Maxim quality girls in person. I've also lived in LA and NYC, and that still holds true. Also, and maybe I am the only man in the world like this but I highly doubt it, once you end up pulling a chick her physical attraction drops in your mind. As I remember reading somewhere on here and agree with, for every 10 out there, there is a guy that is tired of banging her.

I didn't read this entire thread because you seem to have already made up your mind despite what others are telling you.


This is me speaking as someone who hasn't met anyone on this forum in person, but you should meet someone from here that you think knows what's up and have them evaluate you. I'm not talking going out gaming together, just a 30 minute conversation. I know in 30 minutes of face to face communication I will be able to have an idea of what your issue is, and probably in less time than that.

My guess, though, is:

1. Your game is weak or at most average. You just seem to equate your ability to approach as being game, and it is more likely that you get laid simply by a combination of the fact that you approach and your lifestyle/Sexual Market Value is good or maybe even great. This is enough to get laid, but you need "personality" to keep a chick. Think of it like this. Good pimps have beautiful women sell their bodies and give them the money simply to have the right to call the pimp their man. You are doing the opposite. You are selling yourself (your time and "hard earned" money) to get a chance to bed a hot girl. I am not saying pimps are good people or moral or the epitome of game, but they certainly have a good amount of game and you seem to literally be doing the opposite.

2. You seem arrogant and proud. Let's say you did in fact make a good amount of money at a young age. What does this offer to a woman? Are you looking for a gold digger or someone trying to use you to figure out how to advance and/or make money themselves? The only thing money will do in your case is help you give a girl an experience, as others have said. Fly her out to Paris for a weekend, go on a boat trip together, etc. The thing is any Maxim level girl with half a brain can get what you offer her and then some. If I remember correctly you have a million or two. I am a peasant compared to that, but you actually think a couple of million is money? Some of these bitches can hop on a private jet if they want and go island hopping (see Bilzerian), they laugh at your 2.5k I'll fly you out to Paris for a long weekend abilities. Think of why you don't have a social circle. Also think of why you mention having friends that are 100 million trust fund babies. Why do these people not want to be closer to you? You think it is because your lifestyle sucks, or maybe you are rubbing people the wrong way.

3. You keep convincing yourself of what reality is because of an inability to adapt. Every time I get depressed and my life goes to shit and I lose hope, I think the solution is to become famous. When I am not depressed and I actually get off my ass, I start getting laid. Lifestyle improvements are amazing things to do and will certainly move you closer toward getting higher quality women, but if you are a millionaire playboy and all the other "stuff" you described, you are already near the top of what lifestyle can provide. The only way you aren't is if you are a cheap ass about things. If you are going to flaunt your wealth, you better not be cheap or not buy girls drinks "on principle". I'm not saying throw your money at them, but if you have the cash and it somehow factors into your ability to pull women, buying all of her and her friends a shot every 15 minutes just to get them loosened up and in party mode should be a given. Bottom line, all the money in the world means nothing to a girl if none of it is being spent toward her enjoyment. Not saying this is you, but that may be an issue as well.


If you are serious about this and aren't in fact a troll, good luck. I'll be in LA starting in a couple of weeks. If you aren't actually a troll and are a normal guy hit me up.

Quote: (08-07-2017 11:15 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (08-07-2017 11:13 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

Millionaire international playboy with game has trouble sleeping with hot women....

On the other hand, at least he doesn't have to worry about having his phone stolen.

Aloha!

Give me a week with this dude and i'll have OP locking down some maxim quality broad so hard she steals half of his assets,and alimony.

^rvf, the real life.

Quote: (08-07-2017 10:10 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

"I can't get the girls I want"

"Game is for suckers"

Just another summer among many lately.

OP is a bullshitter.

Game is for suckers - Game denier.

Travelling does not matter - you can be in a pussy drought of Saudi Arabia or in the female oversupply of rural Thailand or Belarus - does not matter. Anyone who even travels slightly knows that location is very important - access to Instagram won't make a girl from the Favelas a deluded Dubai fox.

He has excellent Game, has approached thousands, can get numbers for most girls. 7s throw themselves at him, but 8 even in Brazilian favelas run away from him, because they have access to Instagram and a good-looking American millionaire asking them out is too much to bother?

All he needs is better "passive attraction". Since he cannot get taller, more handsome, his way now is to become richer and get "social proof". Because every PUAHaTE and MRA knows that Game is bullshit and all you need is fame, looks, money and social status to get laid.

Oh - and he will never meet up because then his claims could be verified for what they are - bullshit. "I don't meet up with whoremongers!" Yeah - great....

Quote: (08-07-2017 01:25 PM)BrickLake Wrote:  

In my early twenties I had the great social life, deep crew with the coolest people in the city, house parties, exclusive events. Met lots of girl through social circles because they just wanted to hang out with the cool kids. That was like 7 years ago, it all just kind of drifted apart.

I have plenty of single guy friends, we live in different parts of the country for the most part. They're busy, we go out occasionally.

This is just how things worked out, This is my situation and I'm just doing the best I can.

I think I need a drastic overhaul of social life and lifestyle setup.

I can see the issue with this, but many people who have a cool social scene in their early 20s see that drying up drastically when they get in their mid 20s I guess. And you are older than that even.

Reasons:
People party less when they get older because of girlfriends and work.

Nightlife can get repetitive, the novelty wears off.

Energy levels become lower (perhaps?).

I'm not talking about you necessarily, but it still applies to you: Sometimes I suspect being a mid 20s person can be a bit boring 'in terms of meeting people', as you grown out a bit of the college stuff, and if you didn't grow out of it your friends will grow out of it. You can make younger friends to get in a scene but I guess most people can't be bothered.

Some people get rich fairly early at 30-35, and then start to throw money around in the 'big boys nightlife'. You said that you don't really want this either. Other accomplished people at 30-35 find a wife and don't party excessively.

What are your visions on this? Just some random thoughts.

Quote: (08-07-2017 10:55 PM)BrickLake Wrote:  

I'm not here to talk about business, that's your own path and there's already libraries of great reading material on the subject.

I'd say you're not getting quality girls because you're selfish, entitled, scared of real commitment, and shallow. How do I know? See above answer.

If business is "your own path" when someone asks you about it, then getting 8s and up is YOUR own path and you shouldn't have posted here. I mean, hell, there's already libraries of great reading material on the subject.

I understand OP. Issue is your in the matrix, girls that are 8+ have it made. Being that you have high standards. It really is in there favour at that level, and yes they will want to determine your social value and they work out your a lone wolf entreprenuer and that aint fun to the 8s who just want to have fun/ bullshit.

Just travel and find a pussy paradise that suits your taste.

Colombia
Thailand
Brazil
Dominican Republic
Eastern Europe

The rare beauties that you crave that live in the USA, its not even worth it unless your just doing straight P4P on relatively low maintenance 8s.

Your best bet is to deal with 7s in the USA, and build your businesses even bigger and travel every few months and deal with 8s and 9s at your will.

You have to be careful with demanding the 8s and 9s as they can really fuck you up and take you off your focus.

8s and 9s have to much options with guys that are willing to spend money on them. Whats the incentive to be fun fucking you?

Quote: (08-08-2017 10:48 AM)KrisGLWorldwide Wrote:  

I'd say you're not getting quality girls because you're selfish, entitled, scared of real commitment, and shallow. How do I know? See above answer.

If business is "your own path" when someone asks you about it, then getting 8s and up is YOUR own path and you shouldn't have posted here. I mean, hell, there's already libraries of great reading material on the subject.

I would agree with all of this, however I don't really think I'm entitled. I've fought for every scrap of financial and social success I've had.

More of this criticism please. Tear me apart. I love and seek the harshest criticism available. If I have brain cancer, I want to know ASAP, so I can begin treatment immediately and statistically improve my chances of survival.

Less accusing me of lying or fabricating a persona. That is not contributing to the discussion which several members have found relevant or valuable.

Quote: (08-08-2017 11:21 AM)BrickLake Wrote:  

Less accusing me of lying or fabricating a persona. That is not contributing to the discussion.

Is this thread not going in the direction you were hoping for?

Quote: (08-08-2017 12:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

He has excellent Game, has approached thousands, can get numbers for most girls. 7s throw themselves at him, but 8 even in Brazilian favelas run away from him, because they have access to Instagram and a good-looking American millionaire asking them out is too much to bother?

Yup, that's why I posted, because it has been perplexing and vexxing me for years and I want some outside insights and opinions.

Running is a good way to describe it.
If I approach a set of two girls. One a 6.5 and a stunning 9.
The 6.5 will look at me longingly with puppy dog eyes and go along with whatever bullshit I say.
The 9 will look at me with a look of suspicion bordering on contempt, dart her eyes around, and not want to engage.
Pretty consistently. I can normally break through it, but I have noticed a pretty clear trend of extremely attractive girls being far less interested.

I'm trying to figure out why the hell this happens so often, if it's purely a game issue, or if there really is a hard limit to (my) success with cold approach.

Quote: (08-08-2017 11:21 AM)BrickLake Wrote:  

I would agree with all of this, however I don't really think I'm entitled. I've fought for every scrap of financial and social success I've had.

More of this criticism please. Tear me apart. I love and seek the harshest criticism available. If I have brain cancer, I want to know ASAP, so I can begin treatment immediately and statistically improve my chances of survival.

The last bit of information you'll get from me without some viable business tips from you is that you can be entitled and self made. Getting money on your own has nothing to do with feeling like you're better than you actually are, which seems to be the case here.

I'm a businessman, too. I don't rip people apart for free. I might have a question or two for my own benefit as well.

Quote: (08-08-2017 10:50 AM)giama Wrote:  

I understand OP. Issue is your in the matrix, girls that are 8+ have it made. Being that you have high standards. It really is in there favour at that level, and yes they will want to determine your social value and they work out your a lone wolf entreprenuer and that aint fun to the 8s who just want to have fun/ bullshit.

Just travel and find a pussy paradise that suits your taste.

Colombia
Thailand
Brazil
Dominican Republic
Eastern Europe

The rare beauties that you crave that live in the USA, its not even worth it unless your just doing straight P4P on relatively low maintenance 8s.

Your best bet is to deal with 7s in the USA, and build your businesses even bigger and travel every few months and deal with 8s and 9s at your will.

You have to be careful with demanding the 8s and 9s as they can really fuck you up and take you off your focus.

8s and 9s have to much options with guys that are willing to spend money on them. Whats the incentive to be fun fucking you?

According to OP he has traveled and can't get an 8 from the favela interested in him.

Which makes me think the way he described himself and his qualities (on game) is not correct:

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30 Year Old White Male
Above average looks
6 feet tall with above average physique
Self-made internet millionaire
Well educated
Live in a mansion near one of the top nightlife destinations in the United States.
Cool car, cool clothes, all that BS.
Good game honed over years of international travel, tons of cold approaching, lots of mistakes and lessons learned, and working in the EDM industry for a short period.

I have very high level social skills and I go out primarily alone. I almost always end up in an isolated conversation with the most attractive women in the venue and leave with her number. I am aggressive, self-aware, give zero fucks, and at the very least, never "creep" girls out.

The way I see it, he probably does NOT have good game at all. Maybe he lives in a place that is really fucked up when it comes to women. But a self described good looking, wealthy guy, should be able to get 8s in Latin America and SEA clinging and going out of their way to create a relationship with him. Even with average game and social skills.

At most he's been running don't fuck it up game for years on 5s, 6s and 7s thinking that means he's got good game.

OP also comes across as someone that lacks a unique selling point (in girl speak, OP seems boring AF to them).

Ma man lasted longer than I thought he would.

The big baller troll is a fun one. There is another topic bemoaning that the OP can only bang 8s and 9s and the 6s and 7s ignore him. Or something.

lmao. he's banned? must be a new record. gone in under a week

Sometimes I think it would be fun just to make a fake account on here with a burner email to come in swinging a big fake internet dick around like "Hey guys I'm rich and shredded top 10% looks and all the 9's I bang always try to lock me down. What game should I use to convert them into FWB's? Thanks"

Quote: (08-08-2017 01:38 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Sometimes I think it would be fun just to make a fake account on here with a burner email to come in swinging a big fake internet dick around like "Hey guys I'm rich and shredded top 10% looks and all the 9's I bang always try to lock me down. What game should I use to convert them into FWB's? Thanks"

It's been done, the user's name was "gmanifesto"

Quote: (08-08-2017 02:35 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Quote: (08-08-2017 01:38 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Sometimes I think it would be fun just to make a fake account on here with a burner email to come in swinging a big fake internet dick around like "Hey guys I'm rich and shredded top 10% looks and all the 9's I bang always try to lock me down. What game should I use to convert them into FWB's? Thanks"

It's been done, the user's name was "gmanifesto"

Most won't admit this.

Quote: (08-08-2017 01:07 PM)raynman Wrote:  

lmao. he's banned? must be a new record. gone in under a week

This guy has that covered:
Guy keeps getting banned for obvious reasons and wonders why

Quote: (08-08-2017 01:07 PM)raynman Wrote:  

lmao. he's banned? must be a new record. gone in under a week

Are you new to RVF?

This is by no means a record. I've seen guys banned within 5 minutes of their first post.

Quote: (08-08-2017 12:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Oh - and he will never meet up because then his claims could be verified for what they are - bullshit.

Zelcorpion You have been on RVF for over 3 years and have almost 10,000 post. Have you met up with anyone from the forum yet?