I believe I have reached a limit to the amount of success I can have with women.
Let me explain.
30 Year Old White Male
Above average looks
6 feet tall with above average physique
Self-made internet millionaire
Well educated
Live in a mansion near one of the top nightlife destinations in the United States.
Cool car, cool clothes, all that BS.
Good game honed over years of international travel, tons of cold approaching, lots of mistakes and lessons learned, and working in the EDM industry for a short period.
I have very high level social skills and I go out primarily alone. I almost always end up in an isolated conversation with the most attractive women in the venue and leave with her number. I am aggressive, self-aware, give zero fucks, and at the very least, never "creep" girls out.
I meet women primarily from rolling solo to bars and nightclubs, and tinder.
I can have any girl I want below a 7/10. They will chase me, text me, send friend requests, and always say yes. Attractive, intelligent, great girls that any man would be lucky to have. Marriageable girls. All I have to do is just say hello, be disinterested, and they try not to fuck it up for themselves. I am probably an idiot for not just settling down with one of the better ones, focusing on my career, and hanging up the hat.
But one thing irks me and pushes me to stay in the game.
For the life of me, I cannot get and keep a truly beautiful girl. There is a hard stop for me at 8 and above. It's almost like a law of physics. It doesn't matter if it's a dime piece from the Favela's of Medellin, or a some SoHo trust fund chick, if they're a true 8 and above (Maxim magazine level girls) they slip through my hands like water.
I flirt with these women, they are interested, I get their numbers all the time, I get "makeouts." Once in a blue moon I will actually end up pulling one of them home for a night, but I cannot keep them or get them to showup for a day 2.
7's and below: Average 20% flake/ghost rate for me.
8's and above: Average 95% flake/ghost rate.
Hard Math.
I'm not talking super models, I'm just talking about your average hottest girl in the club. Age range 18-25
Maybe once a year I'll actually pull one of these girls and have an incredible night where I feel we share a great experience. I have learned not to get my hopes up, because it will always end with a ghost. 8's and above are slippery, disinterested, aloof, elusive, and ruthless to anything less than a celebrity.
There is nothing different about these girls besides their physical appearance.
Here is what I believe is going on:
A. My over interest in sending extremely subtle vibes that are repelling these girls, despite that I am actively aware and make a strong effort to treat them no differently.
B.There is a true exponential value difference at play, while we perceive an 8 or 9 as being the same species, they are actually experiencing a value alpha of potentially 100-1000X average girls in terms of life experience and options, exacerbated by social media.
C.I have reached the limit of my success as a lonewolf, without an extremely strong social circle, primarily meeting women through cold approach.
I believe I have reached a point of diminishing returns in game. To get the women I want, I will need to focus exclusively on lifestyle setup. You need some sort of an angle.
Here are some angles:
You need to be where other guys can't be.
You need to have male model looks.
You need to be a professional athlete.
You need to be an industry insider at a top club where you look like the coolest and most important guy in the venue every night.
You need to be an instagram celebrity lavished with attention from competing women.
You need to be obscenely wealthy and have a lifestyle to match.
You need to have a world class local social situation with really cool well connected friends, some of them being minor celebrities.
You need to own a famous business that has hot young women as customers. Bar owner, popular clothing line, gym, juice shops, etc.
You need to be a celebrity, or at least be and inside man at exclusive parties. (Big fish in small pond, you can be a "local celebrity")
I think the days of the lone wolf playboy are over.
There are some guys who are just super naturals, like a young Arnold Schwarzenegger, that don't need any of that. But that's not me, and I doubt that's you.
To get these dimes who have 100X value, you need to be a 100X value man, and you can't just convince her of that on your own. You need social proof to tell her you are 100X.
What do you guys think?
(long time lurker, didn't post to brag. hoping to get feedback and opinions from likeminded guys)
Let me explain.
30 Year Old White Male
Above average looks
6 feet tall with above average physique
Self-made internet millionaire
Well educated
Live in a mansion near one of the top nightlife destinations in the United States.
Cool car, cool clothes, all that BS.
Good game honed over years of international travel, tons of cold approaching, lots of mistakes and lessons learned, and working in the EDM industry for a short period.
I have very high level social skills and I go out primarily alone. I almost always end up in an isolated conversation with the most attractive women in the venue and leave with her number. I am aggressive, self-aware, give zero fucks, and at the very least, never "creep" girls out.
I meet women primarily from rolling solo to bars and nightclubs, and tinder.
I can have any girl I want below a 7/10. They will chase me, text me, send friend requests, and always say yes. Attractive, intelligent, great girls that any man would be lucky to have. Marriageable girls. All I have to do is just say hello, be disinterested, and they try not to fuck it up for themselves. I am probably an idiot for not just settling down with one of the better ones, focusing on my career, and hanging up the hat.
But one thing irks me and pushes me to stay in the game.
For the life of me, I cannot get and keep a truly beautiful girl. There is a hard stop for me at 8 and above. It's almost like a law of physics. It doesn't matter if it's a dime piece from the Favela's of Medellin, or a some SoHo trust fund chick, if they're a true 8 and above (Maxim magazine level girls) they slip through my hands like water.
I flirt with these women, they are interested, I get their numbers all the time, I get "makeouts." Once in a blue moon I will actually end up pulling one of them home for a night, but I cannot keep them or get them to showup for a day 2.
7's and below: Average 20% flake/ghost rate for me.
8's and above: Average 95% flake/ghost rate.
Hard Math.
I'm not talking super models, I'm just talking about your average hottest girl in the club. Age range 18-25
Maybe once a year I'll actually pull one of these girls and have an incredible night where I feel we share a great experience. I have learned not to get my hopes up, because it will always end with a ghost. 8's and above are slippery, disinterested, aloof, elusive, and ruthless to anything less than a celebrity.
There is nothing different about these girls besides their physical appearance.
Here is what I believe is going on:
A. My over interest in sending extremely subtle vibes that are repelling these girls, despite that I am actively aware and make a strong effort to treat them no differently.
B.There is a true exponential value difference at play, while we perceive an 8 or 9 as being the same species, they are actually experiencing a value alpha of potentially 100-1000X average girls in terms of life experience and options, exacerbated by social media.
C.I have reached the limit of my success as a lonewolf, without an extremely strong social circle, primarily meeting women through cold approach.
I believe I have reached a point of diminishing returns in game. To get the women I want, I will need to focus exclusively on lifestyle setup. You need some sort of an angle.
Here are some angles:
You need to be where other guys can't be.
You need to have male model looks.
You need to be a professional athlete.
You need to be an industry insider at a top club where you look like the coolest and most important guy in the venue every night.
You need to be an instagram celebrity lavished with attention from competing women.
You need to be obscenely wealthy and have a lifestyle to match.
You need to have a world class local social situation with really cool well connected friends, some of them being minor celebrities.
You need to own a famous business that has hot young women as customers. Bar owner, popular clothing line, gym, juice shops, etc.
You need to be a celebrity, or at least be and inside man at exclusive parties. (Big fish in small pond, you can be a "local celebrity")
I think the days of the lone wolf playboy are over.
There are some guys who are just super naturals, like a young Arnold Schwarzenegger, that don't need any of that. But that's not me, and I doubt that's you.
To get these dimes who have 100X value, you need to be a 100X value man, and you can't just convince her of that on your own. You need social proof to tell her you are 100X.
What do you guys think?
(long time lurker, didn't post to brag. hoping to get feedback and opinions from likeminded guys)