I've said it many times, if anything is being used against Trump it is threats against his kids.

^ Hopefully it's a sex tape of Ivanka

Trump is running circles around you guys. China stopped manipulating their currency in January as he was elected, and has hinted he'll revisit the issue if it comes up again. China is on a leash and assisting with North Korea. The above is just nonsense.

Repo for you: thread-48360...pid1550862

The point of Repo's post isn't to make a measured case that China's help with North Korea is unimportant, or that Trump is making a bad call.
It's not to argue or debate.

It's to make you go OMG TRUMP IS SELLING ME OUT! THAT BASTARD! I BETTER STOP SUPPORTING HIM!

Thankfully it's not gonna work, because the post is self-obvious nonsense, but I think it's important to recognize what's actually going on here.

Thanks Samseau will check out

Quote: (04-16-2017 04:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Repo for you: thread-48360...pid1550862

China already devalued the currency tremendously in the last 2 years before Trump. Now they can even stand down for 4 years and claim innocence.

My guess is that they will actively try to keep the exchange rate at this very high level.

Also as a side note - every country is doing that. Theoretically the US could do so to against the Yuan. The Swiss central bank is brutal in that regard, but the US is likely told to stand down.

The globalists have different plans for China and different ones for the US. China is set to be the manufacturing powerhouse of the world and the US is to be de-industrialized and impoverished.

Quote: (03-01-2017 03:28 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

In a sense, a so called "merit" based immigration system is far worse than even the clusterfuck we have today. Instead of low skilled immigrants taking the shitty jobs, we'll instead have high skilled immigrants taking the good jobs.

Or since this is a game forum, I'll put it this way: currently we have foreigners being brought in to fuck our 2s and 3s. Under a skill based system, we'll have foreigners brought in to fuck our 7s and 8s, which is worse. There is a limited supply of hot women in any country, and there is a limited supply of good jobs, as well. It's bad enough that we have Mexicans taking shitty fast food and construction jobs away from Americans. It's way worse if we have Indians and Chinese taking the few precious jobs we have left in finance, engineering, and medicine from Americans.

And yes, they'll still vote Democrat just like the Mexicans because they're smart enough to realize the Democrats are the vehicle to loot and seize control from the white population for their own ethnic blocs.

A couple counter-arguments to the idea that bringing in skilled foreigners is "worse":

From an American consumer's point of view, it's better to increase the supply of competent labor in every field possible, both skilled and unskilled, because it increases the amount of competition and pushes down the price of goods and services. From an American producer's point of view, it's helpful when immigrants come in (as long as they're not specialists in the producer's own trade), because they'll be consuming his products.

Let's say you're an American bricklayer, and the federal government is letting in a bunch of Indian radiologists. When you go to get an X-ray, you now pay a lower price, so in terms of "real wages," you've gotten a pay increase, because your dollar goes further than it did before the immigrants arrived. Plus those Indian radiologists are probably buying houses, increasing the quantity demanded of your bricklaying services.

As your bricklaying business expands, maybe you have to hire more accountants to keep track of the money, or you're rich enough that you can afford LASIK, or to go on vacation. So more skilled jobs (accountant, surgeon, airline pilot, etc.) in the domestic economy end up being created. Some of those professionals will be your customers as well.

From a macro perspective, the economy starts operating more efficiently because there are workers available to fill every niche. We are able to leverage comparative advantage.

Or to put it in game terms, if we let in foreign men, yeah, they might compete with the local men for the available women. If you're a father, though, you can now marry off your daughter to a richer or otherwise higher-quality man, and your grandchildren end up better off. (On the other hand, if the foreign men aren't as high-quality, then they can't compete anyway with the local men, so they're irrelevant.) To assess the overall impact, you have to look at the whole picture rather than just one part of life (i.e. your own ability to bang 8s and 9s).

The cultural and political aspects of letting in immigrants are a whole different matter than the economic implications. If we wanted, we could change the Constitution (either through an amendment, or a creative reinterpretation) to limit the franchise to whatever class of citizens we think would govern the best. That's how it's been done throughout much of U.S. and British history. It's totally plausible that there could be some immigrants who could make good contributions to the country economically, but would be a political liability. (Indian immigrants do tend to lean left, as you say. Although they would not be able to elect leftist politicians without help from a lot of native-born Americans.)

This is an utterly crazy wrong idea of how business operates.

What happened in real life is that companies like Disney hired 50-60% cheaper Indian IT staff, fired locals and the 0,01% just made a few million while the 99,9% got poorer. The same would happen with radiologists - MDs don't pick their prices in some kind of open market.

Also the other argument of "better competition for your daughter's husband" is bullshit as well. Even if you took in 200 mio. of the best Chinese and Indians into the US, what the fuck are you smoking that you would want to wipe out the White Anglo-country and transform it to a Chinese-Indian place?

That is about as logical as Switzerland opening their borders to everyone above an IQ of 130. Yes - they could do that, but Switzerland would be wiped out. Those kind of arguments are bogus on many many levels. Opening their borders even to very similar Germans would be disastrous for the local Swiss - never mind if the newcomers were peaceful Indians.

Did you just oust yourself as a pro-refugee-open-borders-troll?

Quote: (04-17-2017 01:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The globalists have different plans for China and different ones for the US. China is set to be the manufacturing powerhouse of the world and the US is to be de-industrialized and impoverished.

Can someone please explain this to me? The Chinese are nationalists who have a much more traditionalist worldview compared to liberal westerners and they will not do anything for Israel that isn't in their own interest.

Despite the corruption and debt, the Chinese government is arguably less traitorous to its own people than establishment parties in Europe are. Why would the globalist elites want China to dominate the world?

Quote: (04-17-2017 08:00 AM)Arado Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2017 01:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The globalists have different plans for China and different ones for the US. China is set to be the manufacturing powerhouse of the world and the US is to be de-industrialized and impoverished.

Can someone please explain this to me? The Chinese are nationalists who have a much more traditionalist worldview compared to liberal westerners and they will not do anything for Israel that isn't in their own interest.

Despite the corruption and debt, the Chinese government is arguably less traitorous to its own people than establishment parties in Europe are. Why would the globalist elites want China to dominate the world?

That is the plan of the globalists - not my decision.

My guess is that the Chinese are far far far more obedient than the White Christian tribes. They already have the target system of a communist government with a corporate capitalist economic economy. I think their studies conclude that the Chinese will follow to the T so long as they assume that one of theirs is ruling. And this does not even have to be the case.

It worked well with the US presidency, but Americans are too rebellious and the next Green-Agenda-Austerity changes would probably not go down well.

Also most corporations have already pulled their manufacturing technology to China. You don't do that unless that nation is 100% under your control. The factories otherwise can easily be shifted to producing weapons against you.

After reading Samseaus and Zelcorpions posts, I concede that graphic was very misleading.

Quote: (04-09-2017 01:11 PM)pants Wrote:  

Quote: (04-09-2017 12:54 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

Quote: (02-28-2017 08:11 PM)Le Sigh Wrote:  

Trump is the' 7D-chess counterpunch by the globoelites, an agent of chaos brought on to speed up the destabilizion of America and the world so much that the uber-totalitarian rule of the Left will be seen as welcomed/rational choice after this. That is it. His role is to led astray. That is his only REAL role. All that feigned outrage in the public/MSM is a theater for the masses. And all that tough talk on the part of Trump is a theater too.

Are you from the future?

This is not true either.


Trump is a selfish son of a rich real estate developer. He is very talented populist "bully", who knows how to talk to groups of people. He lies so good he dont even know it himself. He is not an idealist. He can change his mind very fast depending on the people trying to push their own agenda. He will listen to people trying to flatter him.

His travel ban did not fail on purpose. It was just garbage.
His health care reform did not fail on purpose either. If was just a weak bill.

I like how you quickly dropped climate change to bitch about "selfishness". It's a good tactic children & women use when they are presented with realities they don't like.

Quote: (04-17-2017 06:01 AM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

Quote: (03-01-2017 03:28 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

In a sense, a so called "merit" based immigration system is far worse than even the clusterfuck we have today. Instead of low skilled immigrants taking the shitty jobs, we'll instead have high skilled immigrants taking the good jobs.

Or since this is a game forum, I'll put it this way: currently we have foreigners being brought in to fuck our 2s and 3s. Under a skill based system, we'll have foreigners brought in to fuck our 7s and 8s, which is worse. There is a limited supply of hot women in any country, and there is a limited supply of good jobs, as well. It's bad enough that we have Mexicans taking shitty fast food and construction jobs away from Americans. It's way worse if we have Indians and Chinese taking the few precious jobs we have left in finance, engineering, and medicine from Americans.

And yes, they'll still vote Democrat just like the Mexicans because they're smart enough to realize the Democrats are the vehicle to loot and seize control from the white population for their own ethnic blocs.

A couple counter-arguments to the idea that bringing in skilled foreigners is "worse":

From an American consumer's point of view, it's better to increase the supply of competent labor in every field possible, both skilled and unskilled, because it increases the amount of competition and pushes down the price of goods and services. From an American producer's point of view, it's helpful when immigrants come in (as long as they're not specialists in the producer's own trade), because they'll be consuming his products.

Let's say you're an American bricklayer, and the federal government is letting in a bunch of Indian radiologists. When you go to get an X-ray, you now pay a lower price, so in terms of "real wages," you've gotten a pay increase, because your dollar goes further than it did before the immigrants arrived. Plus those Indian radiologists are probably buying houses, increasing the quantity demanded of your bricklaying services.

As your bricklaying business expands, maybe you have to hire more accountants to keep track of the money, or you're rich enough that you can afford LASIK, or to go on vacation. So more skilled jobs (accountant, surgeon, airline pilot, etc.) in the domestic economy end up being created. Some of those professionals will be your customers as well.

From a macro perspective, the economy starts operating more efficiently because there are workers available to fill every niche. We are able to leverage comparative advantage.

Or to put it in game terms, if we let in foreign men, yeah, they might compete with the local men for the available women. If you're a father, though, you can now marry off your daughter to a richer or otherwise higher-quality man, and your grandchildren end up better off. (On the other hand, if the foreign men aren't as high-quality, then they can't compete anyway with the local men, so they're irrelevant.) To assess the overall impact, you have to look at the whole picture rather than just one part of life (i.e. your own ability to bang 8s and 9s).

The cultural and political aspects of letting in immigrants are a whole different matter than the economic implications. If we wanted, we could change the Constitution (either through an amendment, or a creative reinterpretation) to limit the franchise to whatever class of citizens we think would govern the best. That's how it's been done throughout much of U.S. and British history. It's totally plausible that there could be some immigrants who could make good contributions to the country economically, but would be a political liability. (Indian immigrants do tend to lean left, as you say. Although they would not be able to elect leftist politicians without help from a lot of native-born Americans.)

Nice theory you have there, but empirical evidence stretching back at least 50 years shows it to be just so much mental masturbation.

What actually happens >>>> what could theoretically happen but has been proven not to.

Also, I'm not a cuck, so if I had a daughter I'd have zero interest in handing her over to men from another tribe, regardless of how "high quality" they may be. I'd certainly encourage my sons to fuck the brains out of their women though.

If you think this photo is "suspect" you may be a pedofile or were raised by a single mother. (Which happens to be where most pedofiles come from.) It's a testament what a bunch of lost cucks modern men have turned out to be.

I see a busy working Dad and a daughter who loves her father both sitting in a bed in their home. (Fully clothed mind you.)

If you look at that and are suspicious you see things people who grew up in normal nuclear families don't. Daughters love their Dads. Daughters kiss their Dads. This may come as a shock but that's normal healthy behavior.

Only sick freaks who hate the nuclear family see suspicion in a picture like this.

ED: spelling

First I got a ban for using the word triggered (the irony..)
Then I stayed a few weeks on a rig that blocked this page.
Then I thought, is there any point discussing complicated matters as climate change in a thread being about trump being a fraud. After all man made climate change, and trumps understanding of climate change does not align. That does not make him a fraud, it just makes him uninformed, or he might lack the intelligence to grasp the theory.

What makes him a fraud though: Trump university, campaigning saying one thing, then doing the other.

Quote: (04-19-2017 04:54 AM)pants Wrote:  

First I got a ban for using the word triggered (the irony..)
Then I stayed a few weeks on a rig that blocked this page.
Then I thought, is there any point discussing complicated matters as climate change in a thread being about trump being a fraud. After all man made climate change, and trumps understanding of climate change does not align. That does not make him a fraud, it just makes him uninformed, or he might lack the intelligence to grasp the theory.

What makes him a fraud though: Trump university, campaigning saying one thing, then doing the other.

Would you mind specifically going down the list of things that make him a fraud?

What in the campaign did he say, then do, to commit fraud?

Please don't just link to some article and say "read this".

Quote: (04-19-2017 09:09 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2017 04:54 AM)pants Wrote:  

First I got a ban for using the word triggered (the irony..)
Then I stayed a few weeks on a rig that blocked this page.
Then I thought, is there any point discussing complicated matters as climate change in a thread being about trump being a fraud. After all man made climate change, and trumps understanding of climate change does not align. That does not make him a fraud, it just makes him uninformed, or he might lack the intelligence to grasp the theory.

What makes him a fraud though: Trump university, campaigning saying one thing, then doing the other.

Would you mind specifically going down the list of things that make him a fraud?

What in the campaign did he say, then do, to commit fraud?

Please don't just link to some article and say "read this".

Would all of those tweets chiding Obama with regards to Syria prior to him becoming POTUS count? Granted one can say back then he was just talking shit to get a rise out of people but that begs the questions of when is he not just talking shit. Trump may not be a fraud, but he is now under control of the "Deep State", which is why they've backed off on their attacks of him, he's being obedient now.

Quote: (04-19-2017 09:09 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2017 04:54 AM)pants Wrote:  

First I got a ban for using the word triggered (the irony..)
Then I stayed a few weeks on a rig that blocked this page.
Then I thought, is there any point discussing complicated matters as climate change in a thread being about trump being a fraud. After all man made climate change, and trumps understanding of climate change does not align. That does not make him a fraud, it just makes him uninformed, or he might lack the intelligence to grasp the theory.

What makes him a fraud though: Trump university, campaigning saying one thing, then doing the other.

Would you mind specifically going down the list of things that make him a fraud?

What in the campaign did he say, then do, to commit fraud?

Please don't just link to some article and say "read this".

Fisto, are there any moves Trump has made that you don't agree with and what are your criticisms, if you have any.

What would make you (if anything) stop supporting him?

Some supporters (like Botox Bill Mitchell) seem to be unable to disagree with or criticize anything Trump does. (Not putting you in that category just asking a lot of guys the same question.)

Lots of supporters (Myself included) see some of his moves like the Syria strikes and believe it's possible that he will allow a large ground force to move into Syria and it will be a repeat of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Others think his recent statements about China being a flip-flop.

(I think) Zel seems to think Trump has been made to "tow the line" through blackmail by deep state.

I know you have said "Wait and see." in the past but what are your predictions on Trump seemingly moving in the wrong direction in some cases.

Do you think he will continue to be the fighting force against globalism or will he slowly start becoming more of a centrist? If he does change directions I'll keep fighting but it would obviously be a huge blow to us and big help to globalists.

Quote: (04-16-2017 04:22 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Trump is running circles around you guys. China stopped manipulating their currency in January as he was elected, and has hinted he'll revisit the issue if it comes up again. China is on a leash and assisting with North Korea. The above is just nonsense.

Then explain to me why I can only exchange a limited amount of yuan per day/annual and can only carry a limited amount out of the country with me per trip/annually.

Why do Chinese companies need the federal government's permission to exchange yuan into foreign currencies with most requests involving significant amounts of money being denied?

There's nothing more manipulative than simply not allowing money and value to leave your country. It's essentially very similar to the activities by the Qing government a century ago that prompted the Opium trade in China.

The Nation of Qing at that time were more than happy to sell perfume, porcelain and silk in exchange for silver, but wouldn't let foreign entities sell anything in China. Gradually, all European silver and gold was ending up and staying in China. This prompted European nations to get fed up and started covertly trading opium for silver to rebalance global trade, rather than have all the wealth in the world sucked into China.

You can't justify European powers pushing drugs in Asia, but you can understand why they did it.

The current situation isn't much different. China is currently engaged in the same sucking up value. Letting money come into the country, but significantly curtailing the ability of anyone to get money or value out.

I don't know if that is technically currency manipulation (it probably is), but it's definitely an unfair trade mechanism.

Imagine if the US simply didn't allow people to use USD to buy other currencies. How well would that go over with its trading partners?

Quote: (04-19-2017 04:54 AM)pants Wrote:  

First I got a ban for using the word triggered (the irony..)
Then I stayed a few weeks on a rig that blocked this page.
Then I thought, is there any point discussing complicated matters as climate change in a thread being about trump being a fraud. After all man made climate change, and trumps understanding of climate change does not align. That does not make him a fraud, it just makes him uninformed, or he might lack the intelligence to grasp the theory.

What makes him a fraud though: Trump university, campaigning saying one thing, then doing the other.

Guess that is also your opinion about a lot of men on the forum - either lacking intelligence or they are uninformed. Does not matter whether we can quote Nobel Price winners in mathematics who have checked out the "climate science" or whether it is genius-level inventors like Christopher Monckton - all of them lack the intelligence and are badly informed. Only you - Most Intelligent and Wisest of All Humans on Earth - you have the knowledge about Global Warming, no Climate Change, no Climate Disruption.

Hail Gore!

Quote: (04-19-2017 10:13 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Snip..

Guess that is also your opinion about a lot of men on the forum - either lacking intelligence or they are uninformed. Does not matter whether we can quote Nobel Price winners in mathematics who have checked out the "climate science" or whether it is genius-level inventors like Christopher Monckton - all of them lack the intelligence and are badly informed. Only you - Most Intelligent and Wisest of All Humans on Earth - you have the knowledge about Global Warming, no Climate Change, no Climate Disruption.

Hail Gore!

yes, we are uninformed and some concept we are unable to understand, some concepts all humans are unable to understand. Myself included.
And when it comes to science, Donald Trump lack both the information and the ability to process it. Do i need to post the hairspray video again?

That said. Scientist are never 100% sure, they build a model on the data available. So l can agree scientist are not 100% sure about climate change.

However, if the "man-made-climate change"-camp is wrong. Okay we spent more resources to produce green energy than necessary. I´ll give you that.

If climate change-deniers are wrong, we risk fucking up the planet to the point where the planet is useless to human life.

So trump decides to cut funding for research and tracking the climate. Even use the phrase climate change.. Thats quite irresponsible.

EDIT: removed 2 memes for double post.

Quote: (04-19-2017 09:09 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

Would you mind specifically going down the list of things that make him a fraud?

What in the campaign did he say, then do, to commit fraud?

Please don't just link to some article and say "read this".

This should not take much reading at all.

Quote: (04-19-2017 02:44 PM)pants Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2017 09:09 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

Would you mind specifically going down the list of things that make him a fraud?

What in the campaign did he say, then do, to commit fraud?

Please don't just link to some article and say "read this".

This should not take much reading at all.

Pants, everyone is a fraud if we are to base the meaning of fraud on your post.

All of us have changed our mind. It could be we see things differently or we have additional information that warranted a change. I can't imagine you haven't changed your mind since 2013 on something.

I would agree with you on the fraud accusation if Trump sent in troops or tried to enact a regime change.

As of right now, I don't agree with your accusation. This wasn't a full on attack. He bombed a specific site and left it at that.

Trump sent a message around the world that he isn't afraid of action. Even though I am against any more wars, I don't necessarily think this was a bad decision.

So far, I see a lot of nitpicking. We can't leave Syria because of ISIS. That wasn't Trump's doing. We have had 8 years of a idealist who would rather stick to those ideals than fix actual problems.