The best way to organize your own group is to make it completely offline so that infiltrators can't join. Only select hand-picked men you've know for years. Go for loyalty over numbers.

Quote: (01-23-2017 08:28 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

I like the idea of starting organization's and groups to form a counterbalance to leftist antifas, but for a righty group to survive they cannot talk about violence whatsoever or at least until the shit has absolutely hit the fan (so basically civil war 2). Righty groups, even if they are benign in nature are guaranteed to be infested with rats. There was one story a poster presented here a ways back, about a right wing group whose top men were almost all undercover law enforcement from a variety of local, state and federal institutions. The poor fuckers at the bottom got sent to jail, while the "leaders" cracked open the champagne and celebrated. These leaders where also the ones to push talk about violence first. The guys in the bottom probably got sent to 95% non-white jail, with a neo Nazi label (Hell on earth for them i'd imagine).

Anyways i'd join a group of likeminded individuals, but as soon as I smelled a whiff of violence talk, I would get the fuck outta there like the roadrunner.

Move to a conservative state/province and join a church.

In this video, antifas are blocking the road and preventing pedestrians from passing through to get to work. These little bitches are the front line soldiers of the left. They'll put "women" on their front lines and try to instigate violence in hopes of getting the women injured so that they can claim further victim status.

When you start to fuck with strangers who are just trying to get to work, you're going to lose a lot of support.

I like how they protest the police one minute, and demand their help the next.

If this is all the left has to offer at the street level, this war is already won.

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Herr Wolf

You all saw it on camera folks. These fine young gentlepersons were just minding their own business, reading the bible when a 7 foot tall skinhead/Trump supporter, saw them with a woman who wasn't in the kitchen. He became so enraged that he ran over to punch her in the face as hard as he could. All these fine young men and women tried their best to defend her but they were all overpowered by the power of hatred.

This is why we need to ban guns.

Quote: (01-23-2017 08:28 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

I like the idea of starting organization's and groups to form a counterbalance to leftist antifas, but for a righty group to survive they cannot talk about violence whatsoever or at least until the shit has absolutely hit the fan (so basically civil war 2). Righty groups, even if they are benign in nature are guaranteed to be infested with rats. There was one story a poster presented here a ways back, about a right wing group whose top men were almost all undercover law enforcement from a variety of local, state and federal institutions. The poor fuckers at the bottom got sent to jail, while the "leaders" cracked open the champagne and celebrated. These leaders where also the ones to push talk about violence first. The guys in the bottom probably got sent to 95% non-white jail, with a neo Nazi label (Hell on earth for them i'd imagine).

Anyways i'd join a group of likeminded individuals, but as soon as I smelled a whiff of violence talk, I would get the fuck outta there like the roadrunner.

Many militias are heavily infiltrated with rats and the sad thing is that cointel among these groups is largely non-existent. A reporter for a left leaning publication infiltrated a border recon militia and to cut a long story short even a cursory search into their background would have revealed them for who they were on day one.

Unforgivable.

You need a small group of five at most, and these need to be guys with families. Wives, kids, brothers, sisters. It's not easy to fake that kind of cover and most agents are not going to risk their real families by bringing them into the OP. Certainly no agency is going to go that far to infiltrate a 5 man group with no outside ties.

At a very minimum you need coded language to warn each other if one of you gets flipped and is being used to bait the others.

Five is a big number where ultimate trust is concerned, but even one other guy you can rely on utterly multiplies your potential tenfold. The Washington snipers demonstrated that principle quite adequately.

Quote: (01-24-2017 02:23 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

In this video, antifas are blocking the road and preventing pedestrians from passing through to get to work. These little bitches are the front line soldiers of the left. They'll put "women" on their front lines and try to instigate violence in hopes of getting the women injured so that they can claim further victim status.

When you start to fuck with strangers who are just trying to get to work, you're going to lose a lot of support.

I like how they protest the police one minute, and demand their help the next.

If this is all the left has to offer at the street level, this war is already won.

What I really hate is the way these bastards basically bring a huge metal pole and claim it's not a weapon by sticking a flag on the end of it.

If you ever get into a tug of war with these bastards at one end of those poles, try to start out with the flag end and simply hold onto the flag rather than pole. If you can rip the flag off then the cops will surely move in and confiscate what is at that point obviously nothing more than an unadorned weapon.

The ripped flag would also make a nice trophy.

Quote: (01-23-2017 09:51 PM)Adonis Wrote:  

Quote: (01-23-2017 08:28 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

I like the idea of starting organization's and groups to form a counterbalance to leftist antifas, but for a righty group to survive they cannot talk about violence whatsoever or at least until the shit has absolutely hit the fan (so basically civil war 2). Righty groups, even if they are benign in nature are guaranteed to be infested with rats. There was one story a poster presented here a ways back, about a right wing group whose top men were almost all undercover law enforcement from a variety of local, state and federal institutions. The poor fuckers at the bottom got sent to jail, while the "leaders" cracked open the champagne and celebrated. These leaders where also the ones to push talk about violence first. The guys in the bottom probably got sent to 95% non-white jail, with a neo Nazi label (Hell on earth for them i'd imagine).

Anyways i'd join a group of likeminded individuals, but as soon as I smelled a whiff of violence talk, I would get the fuck outta there like the roadrunner.

Move to a conservative state/province and join a church.

Sound advice. The first thing you ought to do is make sure it doesn't have a cucked pastor. He should actually preach about sin and the differences between men and women. He should be pro-life, because "pro-choice" ultimately is pro-death. Picking a great church starts with finding a solid leader. So goes the pastor, so goes the congregation.

Quote: (01-24-2017 04:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (01-23-2017 08:28 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

I like the idea of starting organization's and groups to form a counterbalance to leftist antifas, but for a righty group to survive they cannot talk about violence whatsoever or at least until the shit has absolutely hit the fan (so basically civil war 2). Righty groups, even if they are benign in nature are guaranteed to be infested with rats. There was one story a poster presented here a ways back, about a right wing group whose top men were almost all undercover law enforcement from a variety of local, state and federal institutions. The poor fuckers at the bottom got sent to jail, while the "leaders" cracked open the champagne and celebrated. These leaders where also the ones to push talk about violence first. The guys in the bottom probably got sent to 95% non-white jail, with a neo Nazi label (Hell on earth for them i'd imagine).

Anyways i'd join a group of likeminded individuals, but as soon as I smelled a whiff of violence talk, I would get the fuck outta there like the roadrunner.

Many militias are heavily infiltrated with rats and the sad thing is that cointel among these groups is largely non-existent. A reporter for a left leaning publication infiltrated a border recon militia and to cut a long story short even a cursory search into their background would have revealed them for who they were on day one.

Unforgivable.

You need a small group of five at most, and these need to be guys with families. Wives, kids, brothers, sisters. It's not easy to fake that kind of cover and most agents are not going to risk their real families by bringing them into the OP. Certainly no agency is going to go that far to infiltrate a 5 man group with no outside ties.

At a very minimum you need coded language to warn each other if one of you gets flipped and is being used to bait the others.

Five is a big number where ultimate trust is concerned, but even one other guy you can rely on utterly multiplies your potential tenfold. The Washington snipers demonstrated that principle quite adequately.

Strongly agree. Only general questions related to prepping should be posted online behind an anonymous handle and a VPN. No tactics should be discussed through any digital communication line. Organize only with those who can't blackmail or turn on you without risk of their own family or friends being at risk of retribution. The militias have been infiltrated time and again when they went public. You want your fireteam to be no more than 4 or 5 guys versed in guerilla warfare. This isn't a D-Day battalion, this is asymmetric warfare where the primary goal is to stay alive, and the secondary goal is to do outsized damage on any potential enemy well in excess of your numbers.

Lastly, RVF members aren't the natural cadre to make up your team, unless you live locally with them, and have known them for a very long time. There's no doubt people like the SPLC and possibly cucked law enforcement view this forum as subversive. Best to only invite people into your squad that you can see have a personal stake exposed if they betray you. It is called leverage, use it.

People trying to pretend that nowadays due to social media and just the internet in general that it is easier to start revolutions and for people who aren't fully invested in them not to be swung by them.

Case in point, the Russian revolution. I don't know the figures, but I doubt almost every citizen in Russia wanted a communist revolution, they could have fought back. But they had know way of communicating with the outside, their world was what was right in front of their eyes. And they saw destruction and violence, and decided they didn't want to end up being lynched.

The argument some are trying to make is that it will be easier for people to avoid 'following the crowd' if the Marxists tried to start a civil war due to communication online with others who were against the 'revolution'. Not a chance.

The grid in the US could be taken offline by any well-trained team, the only problem is the huge distances. Boom, electricity and internet down. Next would be the phone networks. And so on. They would create mass confusion, which is the best weapon in these sorts of circumstances for the overthrowers.

One of the reasons why the United States won't easily enter into another Civil War is because the country is so large, that it would be impossible to hold this much territory with military might. The United States government against the 350+ million civilian guns out there? You thought Iraqi insurgent warfare was bad, just wait until you deal with millions of pissed off armed American men with a grudge to settle. Not to mention, whomever pointed out up-thread that liberals are congregated in urban areas just goes to show you that you can starve them easily enough due to their lack of food production. Urban areas will be hellholes, and it will be mostly leftists fighting leftists for table scraps of resources. Country folks have always been more self-reliant.

Further reading on the subject, I highly recommend the Anonymous Conservative blog:

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/

Any civil war between the countryside and the city is going to wind up with a massive pile of casualties in the city.


Where do city people think their water, power, and food come from? The sky gods?

In addition to being short on food and clean water, can you imagine living in the city during urban conflict? Basic services such as trash removal would end after government employees realize that doing your job becomes more dangerous than what it is worth. Massive piles of trash will gather, causing great sickness and demoralization. When you're entire existence is covered in filth, it is hard to keep up morale, even for dirty leftists, they have a breaking point. In Greece, during the height of the crisis, people were literally becoming sick as trash collection was axed. Leftists don't know how to maintain civilization, only to consume what conservatives worked hard to build and protect. Once enough 'maintainers' flee for the doors, all hell will break loose.

Not to mention, any conservatives still in the military can easily inflict massive casualties with long-range artillery, bombs from planes or any other sort of massive munitions targeting an urban area, guaranteeing massive casualties. Leftist morons are in big cities and the whole thing is one big bullseye to point at if things ever really went south. Their constant focus on centralizing populations and political power is their ultimate weakness. Once their power systems break down, they are ducks in the water from external attack forces, and internal rioting, looting and troops abandoning the cause within their own ranks. Only the truly insane leftist actually thinks a civil war would end well for their side. I'm not looking forward to any political unrest, but I'll be damned if some marxist revolutionaries try to undo the work of Washington, Adams, Jefferson and all my forefathers that fought to keep this land free. Hell no!

I don't think you can make militias on the internet. That kind of thing is local. So, make friends with your neighbors, with everyone you pass in the grocer. A strong community protects itself. If protesters brought their horseshit to a small town, it wouldn't end pretty.

This all seems pretty overblown. The U.S. conservatives are far better armed, trained, and self-sufficient than the lefties. The lefties know, deep down, that if they wander into "Trump Country", even in great numbers, things are just not going to go well for them. This was borne out during the Charlotte riots in Sept. 2016. The rioters said with great fanfare that they were going to go into the "wealthy" (i.e., white) Charlotte suburbs for the third night of rioting. I read with great interest a local Charlotte blog where armed "good-old-boy" residents were actually posted at the entrances to the suburban neighborhoods ready for any sort of shit. In the end the rioters never showed up. Another fun example is the Korean rooftop patriots during the 1992 LA riots.

The lefties will just continue to do what they've always done, whine and protest until the government gives them enough gibs me dats to keep the peace.

http://politistick.com/charlotte-anarchi...ell-video/

Quote: (01-24-2017 12:33 PM)britchard Wrote:  

People trying to pretend that nowadays due to social media and just the internet in general that it is easier to start revolutions and for people who aren't fully invested in them not to be swung by them.

Case in point, the Russian revolution. I don't know the figures, but I doubt almost every citizen in Russia wanted a communist revolution, they could have fought back. But they had know way of communicating with the outside, their world was what was right in front of their eyes. And they saw destruction and violence, and decided they didn't want to end up being lynched.

The argument some are trying to make is that it will be easier for people to avoid 'following the crowd' if the Marxists tried to start a civil war due to communication online with others who were against the 'revolution'. Not a chance.

The grid in the US could be taken offline by any well-trained team, the only problem is the huge distances. Boom, electricity and internet down. Next would be the phone networks. And so on. They would create mass confusion, which is the best weapon in these sorts of circumstances for the overthrowers.

If electricity and telecommunication go down nation wide then the only thing you have to worry about is keeping your ass alive, because literally 90 percent of the population is going to die of sickness, starvation, or murder.

Who holds the molehill in DC will be the very least of your worries.

This may be beneficial:




Similar to what John Michael Kane said, these people cannot survive independently, and will be easily put down, though desperation will force them to attempt an invasion. In the end, their bones will serve as warnings.

Quote: (01-24-2017 08:35 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (01-24-2017 12:33 PM)britchard Wrote:  

People trying to pretend that nowadays due to social media and just the internet in general that it is easier to start revolutions and for people who aren't fully invested in them not to be swung by them.

Case in point, the Russian revolution. I don't know the figures, but I doubt almost every citizen in Russia wanted a communist revolution, they could have fought back. But they had know way of communicating with the outside, their world was what was right in front of their eyes. And they saw destruction and violence, and decided they didn't want to end up being lynched.

The argument some are trying to make is that it will be easier for people to avoid 'following the crowd' if the Marxists tried to start a civil war due to communication online with others who were against the 'revolution'. Not a chance.

The grid in the US could be taken offline by any well-trained team, the only problem is the huge distances. Boom, electricity and internet down. Next would be the phone networks. And so on. They would create mass confusion, which is the best weapon in these sorts of circumstances for the overthrowers.

If electricity and telecommunication go down nation wide then the only thing you have to worry about is keeping your ass alive, because literally 90 percent of the population is going to die of sickness, starvation, or murder.

Who holds the molehill in DC will be the very least of your worries.

Yeah, I feel really warm and fuzzy when I think about how rickety and non-standard critical parts of the US electrical grid are.

The electrical grid, the food supply... hell, the WATER supply. Particularly for a place like California that imports most of its water. I'm not super familiar with it, but what happens if those water intakes are bombed, or poisoned, or somehow disabled... I don't even want to think about what the death toll would be like.

The irony is that the US has been busily federalising the power grid for years, arguably to be able to use power providence as a political weapon down the line.

The upshot is that increasingly large sections can be taken down at once.

Most people only think about food during a serious disruption, but the reality is that people die of dehydration much faster than starvation, and they also fail to recognise that most water that runs to taps is not gravity fed but pumped by their good friend Mr Electricity. When the taps stop flowing and the stores are cleaned out you will see people flocking to natural water sources because even though it's incredibly dangerous they will have no other choice.

That will be a death sentence regardless because those sources will be contaminated by the hordes. Imagine if you tossed a million Californians on the banks of the Ghanges and tested out their immune systems. They would crap out their guts day one.

The resultant diarrhoea epidemics would create a sick feedback loop into the water contamination issue.

In a city? Think "water."

What are you on about? I don't see mass murder , starvation, hyperinflation, (spare me the argument from the future, reality only exists in the present)Trump isn't having anyone shot. Although I don't think he' s knowledgeable president I don't think 98% of americans want anything like a civil war.

What has anyone, observably and physically , done to you that you think a civil war is necessary?

No slippery slope arguments please.

^ Sober up and read the thread over again.

Press is a big concern, so you taget the press. "Nonviolent property damage" to the offices and headquarters. Take them offline if they are backing lefties.

Infiltrate antifa type groups. Have someone gather Intel on members, meetings, group meet up/hang outs, etc. Know who they are and their plans. It's better to be prepared. Sabotage their efforts.

Counter-Intel: making them believe other plans are happening. Discredit their leaders. This was a tactic I used during the international meet up day. I tweeted the opposition leader that we were having our meet up among them so they would target all their male "allies" and sow the seeds of distrust.

Follow the money. Obviously we know Soros is behind a lot of it. Find out the banks. Find the money handlers. Find the shell corps that help operate and distribute funds. They will still have their ideals but hard to get behind with no backing. Plus if counter Intel is done correctly it can start to break their spirit.

Those are some ideas for now.

Haven't had a chance to watch this yet, but based on the video title, seems relevant to the discussion at hand!

At this point Soros and minions not even disguising their criminal intent... He is now domestic terrorist enemy of the state and constitutional number 1. Only a matter of time before Trump & Sessions bring the full weight of God's and Man's justice down upon the Soros jihadis.

Self defense groups need to happen and soon.

Until now most of them have destroyed themselves by having known criminals and larping nazis as leaders, but the time is about right when the average joe will look into it.

Quote: (01-25-2017 03:10 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

What are you on about? I don't see mass murder , starvation, hyperinflation, (spare me the argument from the future, reality only exists in the present)Trump isn't having anyone shot. Although I don't think he' s knowledgeable president I don't think 98% of americans want anything like a civil war.

What has anyone, observably and physically , done to you that you think a civil war is necessary?

No slippery slope arguments please.

True, but it pays to be on guard. I'm reading "Days of Rage", about the 60's Weathermen and other sundry radicals right now. Since you seem to be close to my age, you too must remember what it was like to hear about bombings every other day on TV back in the early 70's. Granted those bombs were used to get the message out, but they could happen again.
All the old movies on TV showed peaceful colleges while the ones we read about in the papers were rioting. It seeped into the culture. Student protests where a comic stereotype. Could happen again. Colleges are the Left's turf these days and they don't want to give it up.
Could anyone have anticipated the New Dawn Liberation Front in 1960? How did American go from Ozzie and Harriet in the late 50's to Charles Manson in the late 60's?