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01-04-2017, 09:55 PM
Quote: (07-15-2016 02:16 AM)Adonis Wrote:
My boots
I have to ask, how on earth do you keep your boots in such good shape? You had them for 6 years, looks like you wore them maybe 15-20 times.
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01-10-2017, 02:17 PM
Just be popular. Women are stupid animals. They will like you just because other women likes you.
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01-10-2017, 02:38 PM
I think maybe the two biggest takeaways, at this point, that I've had over a year on this forum bleed together:
1. Game is important, but means little without access to quality
2. Pre-selection is incredibly strong and is totally stupid from a rational point of view, which is why you know it is true and describes the reality it imposes on women. Recognize that access begets pre-selection but you have to have at least a modicum of game once you get access. Cycle begins.
My rule in life that I've mentioned to friends a lot recently, which can be related to any topic:
Be honest with yourself, and always remember who you are as well as where you are.
What seems to be "real" greatly changes in a different context, even with the same input (you).
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01-10-2017, 04:37 PM
Preselection is one thing even the staunchest game denialist can't refute.
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01-10-2017, 04:54 PM
"Woman is a stupid beast" --Erasmus
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02-01-2017, 07:00 AM
With my small notch count and exposure to guys with much higher notch counts, I postulate this:
Game amplifies SMV. For most guys, SMV and game complementary goods if you will. Maybe for guys with cash/bodies/looks/status and zero game vs guys with tons of game and absolutely no SMV then game and SMV are direct substitutes, but these are hypothetical extremes at the end of a very wide spectrum.
There are too many variables at play for a meaningful, empirical way to elegant compare how game vs SMV gets you laid.
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02-01-2017, 10:59 AM
With my small notch count (17 at 24) and exposure to this board over the past 1 1/2 years, I postulate this:
Game gets bangs, SMV gets bangs.
SMV gets LTRs, Game keeps LTRs.
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02-01-2017, 11:01 AM
Both of you should find new postulates.
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02-01-2017, 11:21 AM
Well the edited one makes more sense
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03-21-2017, 09:53 PM
What do you guys think of the concept that a single mother actually has negative smv, regardless of looks. I heard this concept on a Stefan Molyneaux interview recently. My initial analysis is that I agree. Have experience with the desperation and immediate putting out of such women.
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03-22-2017, 10:45 AM
High SMV will open the door for you, game will keep you from getting kicked out.
High SMV + no game = still possible to get action
Low/no SMV + any amount of game = too many nights jerking yourself off
@WIA - not sure where you've been hangin out, but most wallflowers tend to be low SMV. The tall + good looking blokes on their phones are likely texting with Tinder dates, setting up hook ups for the night, lol.
Tangential to the debate, but worth mentioning all the same: ppl often forget the "market" in "sexual market value". Meaning, your SMV isn't just a function of attributes such as your height, style, bank balance etc but also what your competition is bringing to the table, and how the culture/society you're in values your traits.
Examples from this forum:
The dude (black-something-something) that scored 45 notches in 2 months in Bangkok - tall, white dude (objective SMV) in a third world Asian country (subjective SMV)
Another kid (el rey, was it?) - same deal. Tall, white guy (objective SMV), in a third world situation (Goa, India), surrounded by women DTF, with no competition (so high subjective SMV as well)
There are other examples as well if you just search on the forum
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03-22-2017, 11:00 AM
Why does everyone use Thailand and third World countries as examples to show SMV.
I have never met a dude who didn't like Thailand, not one.
In Toronto, I know dudes with super high SMV and still get no action. I also know dudes who live in basements, have no car and slay bitches like no tomorrow.
SMV is just a guide, it is not the bible when it comes to women.
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03-22-2017, 11:46 AM
Quote: (03-22-2017 11:00 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Why does everyone use Thailand and third World countries as examples to show SMV.
I have never met a dude who didn't like Thailand, not one.
In Toronto, I know dudes with super high SMV and still get no action. I also know dudes who live in basements, have no car and slay bitches like no tomorrow.
SMV is just a guide, it is not the bible when it comes to women.
I doubt that those "high SMV" guys you speak of in Toronto would struggle in Thailand.
There's a reason why so many guys flock to Thailand, and it's not because it's the only place with cute women on the planet.
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03-22-2017, 11:48 AM
No they wouldn't struggle because their passport and dollars does the talking.
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03-22-2017, 11:49 AM
SMV = Looks + Fitness + Money + Character
(and of course we all spend ages arguing which one is most important)
A woman - or her unconscious - evaluates the complete package. Depending on the exact circumstances the weight of the factors may vary.
Game is part of character so SMV incorporates game - thus no inherent contradiction.
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03-22-2017, 12:05 PM
Quote: (03-22-2017 11:48 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
No they wouldn't struggle because their passport and dollars does the talking.
Yep, agreed 100%. And that's SMV, not game. In poor countries, a US/European passport and $$$ can be seen by many women as high SMV, like it or not.
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03-22-2017, 10:42 PM
Quote: (03-22-2017 12:05 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:
Quote: (03-22-2017 11:48 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
No they wouldn't struggle because their passport and dollars does the talking.
Yep, agreed 100%. And that's SMV, not game. In poor countries, a US/European passport and $$$ can be seen by many women as high SMV, like it or not.
I am not of the opinion that this is smv. Its fraud victim.value.
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03-23-2017, 04:07 AM
People make decisions emotionally. There are plenty of women who pick wrong guys despite having good SMV guys around.
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03-23-2017, 07:51 AM
Quote: (03-23-2017 04:07 AM)XXL Wrote:
People make decisions emotionally. There are plenty of women who pick wrong guys despite having good SMV guys around.
Exactly, Gina tingle trumps common sense...
Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
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03-23-2017, 08:29 AM
Quote: (03-22-2017 11:48 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
No they wouldn't struggle because their passport and dollars does the talking.
It's all relative - dollars always talk. It's just you need more of them in Toronto than in Chiang Mai to make the same impact.
For a seriously rich guy the whole planet is a potential Thailand - assuming a minimum level of character, game etc.
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