Quote: (01-11-2012 01:33 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Look at the MTV public service announcement at the end. Basically compelling guys to be white knights. Well, what are you going to do if the cops are white knights too? Look at the sheer anger with which they dragged him out of there. They didn't even seem interested in being objective and hearing both sides of the story.

The announcement opens, "Violence against women in any form is a crime." Do they realize the massive implications of this statement? This means that violence in self-defense, violence "that isn't physical," or violence that's targeted to prevent other violence or consequences is a crime. This basically gives women carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they want.

Comedian Bill Burr captured it perfectly.

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No, [women are] relentless. They never stop. And there's no reason for them to stop. You know why? 'Cause you can't hit them. It's what it is. Think about that: there's no physical ramifications for being an asshole when you're a woman. Do you know how much of a dick I would be if it was socially unacceptable to kick the shit out of me?

Watch the whole clip. It's genius. I cued it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr162OZ2Z...d#t=04m21s

Quote: (01-11-2012 04:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

She deserved, at the minimum, a slap.

If you slap her, you're still going to receive the same legal and white-knight ramifications as if you closed-punched her in the face. Might as well go all the way.

Quote: (01-12-2012 01:42 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2012 04:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

She deserved, at the minimum, a slap.

If you slap her, you're still going to receive the same legal and white-knight ramifications as if you closed-punched her in the face. Might as well go all the way.

take away the white knights and you will see femcuntism vanish. It's just a matter of time before it happens.

Quote: (01-10-2012 10:48 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

It has gotten worse. I've had a few incidents last year with disrespectful bar skanks. The funny thing is...it's never my target. It's always the ugly cock blocking friend!

Lucky for them I have thick skin. Girls in the US think guys wont hit them until.....

The real victim in this video is the dude between Snooki and angry drunk guy. Dude just standing there gets his face sideswiped.

this topic is relevant to me - I went out dolo the other night in my mid sized college town and got in a cab-van at end of the night. It's one of those vans that takes on like 3-4 different groups and charges 4 bucks per group/destination.

anyways, it's just me. kind of a wack night - couple numbers, no pulls. I'm sitting there with the sliding door open while these two idiot college girls are bullshitting, talking on their phones, telling the driver to hold on, stumbling, laughing, being morons. Meanwhile it's fucking cold.

So I keep my mouth shut and they finally get in. That's when the madness starts. They are both loud as shit, bouncing around, talking gibberish, shouting out the window. The cab driver is this small beta looking indian dude and he's timidly trying to get them to chill out.

One is sitting next to me, but it's the one up front in the passenger seat that's acting super crazy. She starts talking shit about how all guys are stupid and don't know how to "step to a girl" etc.

So I'm kinda drunk and just not having any of this, so I'm like

"Yo. Do you know how to cook? just curious."
She's like "huh"
"Yea I didn't think so. You're a useless american white girl with no life skills and no body. Shut the fuck up so I can get home in peace."

That set it off. Both get all riled up, so I just start laughing and telling them they look like monkeys, and that's why every guy in the USA talks about moving to Brazil or anywhere but here lol.

Anyways, her friend sticks her hand real close to my face as if to put it over my mouth and she's like "ok ok let's just stop talking."

"Put your fucking hand down you little monkey. I dare you to put it near my face again. Go sit in the backseat you smell like salty vagina and perfume."

So that started it up again, and the taxi driver is like "Bro don't you like pussy man? What's the deal. Don't talk to girls that way."

I immediately thought of this forum and got disgusted with him, as you guys would have. So I'm like

"Stop the fucking car. You make me sick. These girls aren't gonna fuck you. You're pathetic."

He stops the car. Now I forgot to mention I have a half eaten burrito I've been working on this entire time, spilling with rice, beans, sauce, all types of good stuff.

So as I open the sliding door to get out, I aim and fling the burrito open-faced at the girls face in the front seat. NAILS HER.

I start cracking up, get out, and call another cab.

I've always been that guy to look at myself first and say "How could I have done better?" But at this point I've had so many bad chicks on my dick, cooking for me, blowing me, treating me like a king, that I've finally accepted I'm pretty fucking awesome and deserve to be treated with respect by women. I've straight up called out several girls in the past couple years, and even though it may get them screeching and jumping around like monkeys, it feels really good to speak from the heart and let a bitch know she's out of line. Especially when you know every other guy is thinking the same thing.

lol thats whats up iceinthewater.

Quote: (01-12-2012 02:06 AM)Iceinthewater Wrote:  

this topic is relevant to me - I went out dolo the other night in my mid sized college town and got in a cab-van at end of the night. It's one of those vans that takes on like 3-4 different groups and charges 4 bucks per group/destination.

anyways, it's just me. kind of a wack night - couple numbers, no pulls. I'm sitting there with the sliding door open while these two idiot college girls are bullshitting, talking on their phones, telling the driver to hold on, stumbling, laughing, being morons. Meanwhile it's fucking cold.

So I keep my mouth shut and they finally get in. That's when the madness starts. They are both loud as shit, bouncing around, talking gibberish, shouting out the window. The cab driver is this small beta looking indian dude and he's timidly trying to get them to chill out.

One is sitting next to me, but it's the one up front in the passenger seat that's acting super crazy. She starts talking shit about how all guys are stupid and don't know how to "step to a girl" etc.

So I'm kinda drunk and just not having any of this, so I'm like

"Yo. Do you know how to cook? just curious."
She's like "huh"
"Yea I didn't think so. You're a useless american white girl with no life skills and no body. Shut the fuck up so I can get home in peace."

That set it off. Both get all riled up, so I just start laughing and telling them they look like monkeys, and that's why every guy in the USA talks about moving to Brazil or anywhere but here lol.

Anyways, her friend sticks her hand real close to my face as if to put it over my mouth and she's like "ok ok let's just stop talking."

"Put your fucking hand down you little monkey. I dare you to put it near my face again. Go sit in the backseat you smell like salty vagina and perfume."

So that started it up again, and the taxi driver is like "Bro don't you like pussy man? What's the deal. Don't talk to girls that way."

I immediately thought of this forum and got disgusted with him, as you guys would have. So I'm like

"Stop the fucking car. You make me sick. These girls aren't gonna fuck you. You're pathetic."

He stops the car. Now I forgot to mention I have a half eaten burrito I've been working on this entire time, spilling with rice, beans, sauce, all types of good stuff.

So as I open the sliding door to get out, I aim and fling the burrito open-faced at the girls face in the front seat. NAILS HER.

I start cracking up, get out, and call another cab.

I've always been that guy to look at myself first and say "How could I have done better?" But at this point I've had so many bad chicks on my dick, cooking for me, blowing me, treating me like a king, that I've finally accepted I'm pretty fucking awesome and deserve to be treated with respect by women. I've straight up called out several girls in the past couple years, and even though it may get them screeching and jumping around like monkeys, it feels really good to speak from the heart and let a bitch know she's out of line. Especially when you know every other guy is thinking the same thing.

That's some real shit. If everyone followed your example, female bad behavior would be much less of a problem. And I thought I was doing my part by calling out cockblockers.

Just read that post I love it. I've done similar stuff many times. The key as you say is to not cuss and be out of control yourself. In the cab situation I was just drunk and having fun talking shit.

One thing I've found that works really well that I've tested many times is when a CB comes up and tries to pull a girl from me, I'll whisper in my girls ear "Why does your friend want to ruin this for you?" OR I'll say it straight to the CB "Hey why don't you want your friend to talk to people?"

It works extremely well if the girl is into me, not so much otherwise (obviously). It sets a powerful frame with a presupposition, and tools the girl. There's really nothing she can say.

Quote: (01-12-2012 02:34 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2012 02:06 AM)Iceinthewater Wrote:  

this topic is relevant to me - I went out dolo the other night in my mid sized college town and got in a cab-van at end of the night. It's one of those vans that takes on like 3-4 different groups and charges 4 bucks per group/destination.

anyways, it's just me. kind of a wack night - couple numbers, no pulls. I'm sitting there with the sliding door open while these two idiot college girls are bullshitting, talking on their phones, telling the driver to hold on, stumbling, laughing, being morons. Meanwhile it's fucking cold.

So I keep my mouth shut and they finally get in. That's when the madness starts. They are both loud as shit, bouncing around, talking gibberish, shouting out the window. The cab driver is this small beta looking indian dude and he's timidly trying to get them to chill out.

One is sitting next to me, but it's the one up front in the passenger seat that's acting super crazy. She starts talking shit about how all guys are stupid and don't know how to "step to a girl" etc.

So I'm kinda drunk and just not having any of this, so I'm like

"Yo. Do you know how to cook? just curious."
She's like "huh"
"Yea I didn't think so. You're a useless american white girl with no life skills and no body. Shut the fuck up so I can get home in peace."

That set it off. Both get all riled up, so I just start laughing and telling them they look like monkeys, and that's why every guy in the USA talks about moving to Brazil or anywhere but here lol.

Anyways, her friend sticks her hand real close to my face as if to put it over my mouth and she's like "ok ok let's just stop talking."

"Put your fucking hand down you little monkey. I dare you to put it near my face again. Go sit in the backseat you smell like salty vagina and perfume."

So that started it up again, and the taxi driver is like "Bro don't you like pussy man? What's the deal. Don't talk to girls that way."

I immediately thought of this forum and got disgusted with him, as you guys would have. So I'm like

"Stop the fucking car. You make me sick. These girls aren't gonna fuck you. You're pathetic."

He stops the car. Now I forgot to mention I have a half eaten burrito I've been working on this entire time, spilling with rice, beans, sauce, all types of good stuff.

So as I open the sliding door to get out, I aim and fling the burrito open-faced at the girls face in the front seat. NAILS HER.

I start cracking up, get out, and call another cab.

I've always been that guy to look at myself first and say "How could I have done better?" But at this point I've had so many bad chicks on my dick, cooking for me, blowing me, treating me like a king, that I've finally accepted I'm pretty fucking awesome and deserve to be treated with respect by women. I've straight up called out several girls in the past couple years, and even though it may get them screeching and jumping around like monkeys, it feels really good to speak from the heart and let a bitch know she's out of line. Especially when you know every other guy is thinking the same thing.

That's some real shit. If everyone followed your example, female bad behavior would be much less of a problem. And I thought I was doing my part by calling out cockblockers.

Girls are more masculine today. They think they can get away with this shit.

I had to slap a girl a few years back..

She was talking shit to me at a small party at a friends house. She said..."I was having fun until YOU got here" and blah, blah, blah in her annoying little voice. I slapped her pretty hard and the look on her face was face was priceless. She was shocked and she didn't have anything to say. The rest of the night she was quiet and she looked at me with a combination of fear, shock, and respect. After that, she was always submissive around me.

Bitch thought I was a sucker.

I like a good cheek pinching (face, not ass). Can be just as painful, and for whatever reason, it's socially acceptable to do it to a woman - it doesn't look "that bad." It's like an aggressive patronizing pat on the head, and you can do it casually with a smirk, unlike a slap.

Early in the night a guy recognized me and we talked a bit about game. He said he was a beginner and just getting into it. I told him be careful because the game out there is intended for Western girls, not European. He noted my warning.

Later on I was alone at the bar and two girls came right next to me. They were both 5s, but I was bored and wanted to make conversation. I said something and the blonde girl took to it while her redhead friend gave me attitude. The conversation faded out in a couple minutes. Then the blonde accidentally spilled her wine.

I said, "Do you two believe in god?" They just looked at me.

I continued: "God made you spill your wine. You [looking at the readhead] were rude to me and god punished your friend by spilling the wine. Now she has to buy two glasses to get one." The readhead rolled her eyes. I was being stupid but I wanted to make a point about karma and what not.

Later I saw the guy I met earlier walk up to the two girls. He was drunk at this point. The readhead remained a bitch but the blonde responded to him, teasing his drunkenness. He got really close to her and wrapped his arm around her. Then next thing I heard...

SLAP!

She slapped him as hard as she could, spilling her second glass of wine in the process.

The aftermath of such violence is important because it would determine who stays and who goes. I looked at the two girls and said, "Where I come from, a man slaps a girl back."

"But he tried to grab my ass!" the blonde said.

"It doesn't matter. You don't slap a man. Tell the manager if he did something wrong. A lot of girls have got knocked out for hitting men. Things can get very dangerous. In America, it's okay to hit a girl back."

"Yeah because America sucks!"

"Maybe, but we will hit a girl. If a girl is willing to fight a man, she deserves to get hit."

The drunk dude stood there, I stood there, and no white knights came to their rescue. The girls immediately put on their coats and left.

The guy was so drunk I don't think he felt the sting of the slap. Even if he groped her in a semi-offensive way, I would not hesitate backing him up. The last thing any man should do is reward women when they hit men, especially if its due to drunken bar flirting. From my earlier interaction with these two girls, I felt that they were in the mood to bitch out men, but thankfully their night was shortened as a result. I think we're at the point where men must defend other men, even if the man being defended was partially in the wrong.

Quote: (01-12-2012 09:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

They were both 5s, but I was bored and wanted to make conversation.

I think the problem here is that ugly/mediocre girls have to put on a major attitude to seem "cool" or what not, whereas an attractive girl has a lot more confidence, or is at least a bit more comfortable with herself, so she doesn't have to turn to the "cool manly dude" image in order to feel strong.

I wonder how many of the girls who were prepared to fight you were on the higher on the attractiveness spectrum?

Another, subtler way that girls assert their will with violence is muscling their way through (bar) crowds while repeatedly saying "excuse me" in a patronizing, sarcastic tone. You see varieties of this with girls struting down a crowded street and just expecting men to move out of their way.

I counteract both of these with congruent forms of aggression. I elbow or forearm-shove the bar bitches firmly in the ribs or tits and let the street-walking ones bounce right off of me when I don't clear a path for them. I've had the occasional bitch cuss me out for it, and usually retort with an appropriate slammer statement that shuts them the-fuck up.

Quote: (01-12-2012 09:14 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2012 09:03 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

They were both 5s, but I was bored and wanted to make conversation.

I think the problem here is that ugly/mediocre girls have to put on a major attitude to seem "cool" or what not, whereas an attractive girl has a lot more confidence, or is at least a bit more comfortable with herself, so she doesn't have to turn to the "cool manly dude" image in order to feel strong.

I wonder how many of the girls who were prepared to fight you were on the higher on the attractiveness spectrum?

Good observation. The girls who want to fight are never feminine. In Poland it has absolutely not happened where I got close to violence with a female. I can't even imagine a Polish girl getting angry at me, let alone violent.

Quote: (01-12-2012 09:18 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Another, subtler way that girls assert their will with violence is muscling their way through (bar) crowds while repeatedly saying "excuse me" in a patronizing, sarcastic tone. You see varieties of this with girls struting down a crowded street and just expecting men to move out of their way.

I counteract both of these with congruent forms of aggression. I elbow or forearm-shove the bar bitches firmly in the ribs or tits and let the street-walking ones bounce right off of me when I don't clear a path for them. I've had the occasional bitch cuss me out for it, and usually retort with an appropriate slammer statement that shuts them the-fuck up.

I'd get this a lot in the higher-end clubs in Vegas like Tryst. I'd feel a hand pushing my back or getting my heels stepped on, like aggressively. When I'd turn around it was NEVER a dude, usually a little white chick with a troll face in heels.

In these situations, I would just turn completely and face her and stop and say "What are you doing?" They'd usually run off scared. Once a girl said "I can do what I want I'm hot."

I started laughing and shaking my head "no" and was like "you're not hot at all. at least be nice." It was super insulting to her because the laugh was genuine - like I really started cracking up at her notion that she was hot. FUNNY ENOUGH, I caught her staring at me with that pouty "I hate him/I want him" look later on in the night.

Quote: (01-11-2012 01:33 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2012 12:07 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Quote: (01-10-2012 11:54 PM)houston Wrote:  

lol!! what's the story behind that?

This is what led up to it. You may not agree with what he did. But after that incident I'm sure she'll never step to a MAN like that.

Look at the MTV public service announcement at the end. Basically compelling guys to be white knights. Well, what are you going to do if the cops are white knights too? Look at the sheer anger with which they dragged him out of there. They didn't even seem interested in being objective and hearing both sides of the story. If she had punched him, nobody would be running up to defend his honor and the cops would not be dragging her out of there like she just robbed a bank. If a guy hits a woman even in self-defense, he's treated the way prisoners treat a child molester. I used to be one of those guys that would react that way if a dude slapped a woman. But any guy after he thinks about it a bit will start to question the white knight shit we were programmed with. The double standard is disgusting.

That said, I don't support men abusing women. If he was truly pummeling her, it should be stopped by force as a strong man can easily kill a woman. But this was not one of those situations. He just broke her off one in order to get her the hell out of his face.

Men should always hit bitchy women like that.

Vitriol, it's a shame feminists are trying to take over Hollywood by making movies like "Haywire".

Quote: (01-12-2012 09:18 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Another, subtler way that girls assert their will with violence is muscling their way through (bar) crowds while repeatedly saying "excuse me" in a patronizing, sarcastic tone. You see varieties of this with girls struting down a crowded street and just expecting men to move out of their way.

I counteract both of these with congruent forms of aggression. I elbow or forearm-shove the bar bitches firmly in the ribs or tits and let the street-walking ones bounce right off of me when I don't clear a path for them. I've had the occasional bitch cuss me out for it, and usually retort with an appropriate slammer statement that shuts them the-fuck up.

Yes, I noticed this exact phenomenon years ago while at university, but during the day. I'd be walking on a narrow path, or I'd be hemmed in by people on either side, and someone would be coming from the opposite direction. There wouldn't be enough room, so one of us would have turn our shoulders to slide through.

And it was *overwhelmingly* girls who would not yield, while most guys, even the bigger ones, were fairly pragmatic and deferential. I could read it on their faces that chicks felt like they had something to prove by playing this game of chicken. Guys just wanted to avoid confrontation. If nothing else, being a girl and trying to shoulder check a dude like that is just stupid.

As many of you guys know, I've been living in Hawaii for nearly 5 months now and blah blah.

And I'm finally starting to grasp the depth of you guys's revolt over these girls.

It is with compassionate grief that I say you guys have it really rough.

Even the bitchiest of bitches back home in Brazil would never treat me the way I've been treated here. I can actually "feel" these girls' aggressiveness, their deeply disturbed natures, their resenftulness and their spoilt demeanors. An honest, open, mature human interaction as it is seems impossible.

I remember reading all of Roosh's post on American women and what nots, but I always was a bit suspicious of it. "All American girls can't be like that."

I am gradually realising that the "corrupted American girl" is more the rule than the exception. And there are powerful institutions that back up, encourage and help perpatuate this deep cultural crisis.

What went wrong, America?

Why such a nation with beautiful cultural heritage (just think of the hippies, the beats, rock and roll...) degrade to such point?

"There wouldn't be enough room, so one of us would have turn our shoulders to slide through."

I can't think of a day when this doesn't happen. Both parties could simply turn shoulders and pass comfortably, but women practically insist men stop, or step aside and allow them through FIRST. Even in the simplest of situations, they complicate it by believing they should somehow be catered to. I used to be one of those guys that automatically would step aside and let them through first, but you'll see chicks TAKE THEIR TIME when they see a guy holding the door, or giving them right of way, instead of hustling through and acknowledging your courtesy. Fuck it now. I keep it moving. I'll hold the door and look back, but if she doesn't hustle to catch it herself, it'll just have to close on her. I'll turn my shoulders, but if she doesn't turn hers too, she gets hit or swiped.

Argentina is the absolute worst country for girls who refuse to yield on the sidewalk. It was a constant battle.

Shouldering a girl is great medicine for what ails these girls' attitude. When impact is inevitable, I stiffen up and let her sow what she reaped. Only about 4 or 5 times did a girl not get out of the way.

Quote: (01-12-2012 10:11 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

As many of you guys know, I've been living in Hawaii for nearly 5 months now and blah blah.

And I'm finally starting to grasp the depth of you guys's revolt over these girls.

It is with compassionate grief that I say you guys have it really rough.

Even the bitchiest of bitches back home in Brazil would never treat me the way I've been treated here. I can actually "feel" these girls' aggressiveness, their deeply disturbed natures, their resenftulness and their spoilt demeanors. An honest, open, mature human interaction as it is seems impossible.

I remember reading all of Roosh's post on American women and what nots, but I always was a bit suspicious of it. "All American girls can't be like that."

I am gradually realising that the "corrupted American girl" is more the rule than the exception. And there are powerful institutions that back up, encourage and help perpatuate this deep cultural crisis.

What went wrong, America?

Why such a nation with beautiful cultural heritage (just think of the hippies, the beats, rock and roll...) degrade to such point?

Its not just American women dude, its all western women. Its western culture as a whole now. Its rotten and its degrading. We have women fighting each other in parking lots out here in AUstralia. Shit breaks out in clubs, often with each other or them doing something stupid to a man. Last year a chick made headlines when she was sent to jail for GLASSING some bird at the bar. The most common problem though is women actually causing fights between men. Lying about a guy disrespecting her or touching her. Or looking for trouble with other people and then expecting her BF or male friend to step in. Shouting their mouths of and goading some poor guy who is just standing in line or trying to buy a beer. This shit is just as bad as anything thats been discussed here.

We live in societies where there are different laws for the genders. There are laws for men and laws for women. They are now abusing the protection of those laws. Everywhere from the family courts, to the office where sexual harassment laws are hardcore to the way the law handles rape allegations. Its the same with abuse and even assault cases.

Its not going to change, its going to get worse. The only reason to stay in the west is for money, other than that, there is nothing left for you as a man. If you are not making really good money there is simply no reason for you to be staying anymore. There is nothing for you. The culture is sick and the people are sicker.

Has anyone noticed how in the movies we watch there is no longer the damsel in distress? They are always these warrior chicks who are part of the battle/war/bank robbery etc. And they almost always kick some guys ass, often because the guy was showing her some sort of disrespect. Even in the retelling of classical stories like King Arthur or Robin Hood the women are now these masculine warrior type things.

Could you ever imagine someone like Angelina Jolie and her action hero bullshit being popular in the 50's or 60's?

Quote: (01-12-2012 10:11 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

What went wrong, America?

Why such a nation with beautiful cultural heritage (just think of the hippies, the beats, rock and roll...) degrade to such point?

because they don't do things by halves.

I do feel forlorn at times about this.

I picture a nation that once bred the calibre of men that could fly SDB Dauntless aircraft into a IJN fire storm at the battle of Midway, to where many of them are now passive obese chumps, emasculated for no other purpose than to appease to juvenile, narcissistic whims of women.

Yeah- I get this shit from girls in bars all the time. They always try to push you out of the way to get to the bar. To prevent this, I try to create a "don't fuck with me" bubble around myself when I'm at the bar of a crowded club- strong body language, attitude, etc.

I'm starting to think that the whole rating system of girls (1-10) doesn't actually correlate to the difficulty of gaming girls at different levels. 5s are often bitchier than 8s, so maybe we need to make a game-difficulty rating system, or a bitchyness rating system.

Quote: (01-13-2012 02:12 PM)soup Wrote:  

Yeah- I get this shit from girls in bars all the time. They always try to push you out of the way to get to the bar. To prevent this, I try to create a "don't fuck with me" bubble around myself when I'm at the bar of a crowded club- strong body language, attitude, etc.

I'm starting to think that the whole rating system of girls (1-10) doesn't actually correlate to the difficulty of gaming girls at different levels. 5s are often bitchier than 8s, so maybe we need to make a game-difficulty rating system, or a bitchyness rating system.

I've thought about this - obviously some girls are hotter than others, but to me it's really about 1's and 0's. A girl I call an 8 may be another man's 4. The real difference is I would hit it and he wouldn't.

As I've gotten older, a woman's personality has become more important - to the point where now I'd say it's 50/50 importance to looks. But again it's a 1/0 issue. Is she hot? Cool. Is she annoying/arrogant etc? Then she's a 0. She's cut.

I've noticed that the hottest girls tend to also be nicer, smarter, more successful in their lives. Not always, but I'm ashamed to say I'm still surprised when I meet a hot girl who is in grad school, volunteers, knows how to cook etc. This is more common in major cities though.

Quote: (01-12-2012 10:41 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Argentina is the absolute worst country for girls who refuse to yield on the sidewalk. It was a constant battle.

Shouldering a girl is great medicine for what ails these girls' attitude. When impact is inevitable, I stiffen up and let her sow what she reaped. Only about 4 or 5 times did a girl not get out of the way.

Hmm.. Just slow down, eye contact & stand your ground.

Guys - I get what you're saying about Girls in the west, but its like they are STEALING all the CREDITS of the RIGHTS to PROTEST from all the ABUSE that women in the EAST suffer.

I've seen some women protest in the east, but I really respect the ones who had to because they were pushed way past point of abuse by men.

Bottomline, any of the genders not treating the other gender with mutual respect and taking UNDUE advantage is BS. BS has to be thrown out.

I've had to put some women in their place big time to the point that I've had friends come and give me grief about it. Such is life.