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10-27-2016, 12:23 PM
South Park isn't funny. Hasn't been in a very long time. Watching older TV shows (the wonder years) makes it glaringly obvious how the art of subtlety is utterly foreign to modern TV and movies.
The simpsons - clever and hilarious (during it's prime)
south park - why not come into the living room and smack me in the head with a a hammer? It would be about as funny and just as subtle.
Same goes for these super hero shows my brother watches, like Arrow. All the dialogue is so fucking dry, everything is delivered as exposition. I find that to be insulting to the audience's intelligence.
I don't need every little thing explained.
I can detect nuance.
I don't need idealized fantasy characters to represent something to look up to, I find more down to earth characters more appealing and there's none of the above on modern TV shows.
Bring back Al Bundy and Jefferson.
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10-27-2016, 12:49 PM
Mr. Robot, the main character is portrayed as a guy who does not give a fuck about anybody, but from the first episode he goes into a crusades to hacks some guy because he was married and also dating a female doctor, he even fake some underage sexting against him and force him to tell the doctor the true.
Second episode he is in total captain save a hoe mode, some junky girl living in his apartment is dating some bad boy drug and gun dealer, he arrives at her apartment and find the bad boy sitting in the her living in underwear, she is locked in her bathroom and he spends time trying to open the door to find out if she is ok, after some conversation with the bad boy boyfriend he opens the door and find her in the bathtub with a scar in her face.
Same in the movie Jumper, the character has teleportation powers and has a nice life, he can just teleport to anywhere in the world, he wants some money? he just teleport to a bank safe get all the money he wants, at one part he is watching some news about flood in some part of the world and he ignores it, again, he is portrayed as a guy who does not give a fuck about anybody but himself.
But he completely goes insane when he encounters his former high school female friend working in a bar, he totally destroy his life and the life of a fellow guy with the same super power for this girl.
This is a common theme in movies, and TV shows, a guy is presented as a guy who does not care about anybody else but himself, but he destroy his life and everybody else trying to safe some girl, especially if the girl is dating some bad boy.
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10-27-2016, 02:03 PM
@Latinopan
Agreed.
It goes back to the social narrative that everything we as men do in life is for the right woman. A woman's "love" is everything.
It's basically how they continue to ruin James Bond.
Not that putting your life on the line for country (or God) is much better, it serves elite interests, but at least you're not over valuing the prize.
Imagine a red pill movie in 2016. Man is chilling, runs into issue, solves issue, and he bangs any and every chick irrespective of the plot.
His happy ending is putting the cackling threesome in an uber, as he returns to his mansion to crack open a beer.
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10-27-2016, 02:15 PM
Johnny Sac from the Sopranos. Faithful to a fat wife and throwing a hissy fit when said fat wife is insulted.
Beliefs are more powerful than facts.
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10-28-2016, 03:10 PM
^And Johnny Sac's allocution.
Beliefs are more powerful than facts.
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10-14-2017, 02:15 PM
Quote: (10-27-2016 10:48 AM)CRR Wrote:
I Love You Man was on the other night. I've seen it before, it has it's moments.
What stuck out to me was in the main group of women there was the annoying friend who was always complaining about being single. I thought this was interesting because to me this would be an example of a beta woman, if there was such a thing.
It seems like every group of women has this friend, the one that's certainly not a circus freak nor even overweight really. But also unpleasant to be around and not as attractive or funny as her friends think she is, at least certainly not from a man's perspective. And always available.
Just watched this, funny movie.
I can't believe no one else caught this. Vince Vaughn blurts out can anyone tell me where is a pet shop at some point with no relation to the story. Shout out to Vince, belated welcome to the forum. Also in the same movie he says "thats redonkulas." Clearly a second manosphere reference.
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10-15-2017, 05:44 PM
^funny how looking back at american programs of the 70s it seems like the beginning of social engineering. brady bunch etc.
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10-15-2017, 09:16 PM
James Corden is beta personified.
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10-17-2017, 02:47 PM
Quote: (10-15-2017 10:36 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
Quote: (10-15-2017 05:44 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:
brady bunch etc.
"It's one world, and we all have to learn to live with each other."
Sherwood Schwartz, Brady Bunch creator. You can guess the religion and strain easily enough.
Schwartz was addicted to subterfuge. Let's not forget another one of his creations,
Harper Valley PTA. A single mother, Barbara Eden, ridicules the small-town residents of Harper Valley on a weekly basis. In short, hooray for the virtuous single mother and shame on the two-parent Christian families of small-town America.
At least Schwartz gave us
Gilligan's Island. That was alright, for the most part. But I'm sure if I took a closer look, I could find his slimy fingerprints throughout the series.
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10-18-2017, 02:46 AM
Jaime Lannister. Well he is more like an omega.
All you gotta do is ask them questions and listen to what they have to say and shit.
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01-06-2018, 12:26 PM
TV: Alan Harper from Two And A Half Men. The dude gets divorce raped twice, befriends the man fucking his ex wife, his own son doesn't respect him, acts autistic around pretty women, and acts submissive to his bitchy mom.
Movie: Forrest Gump. Dude has a severe case of oneitis. Spends his whole life white knighting and orbitting his sloot childhood girlfriend, just so she ends up dumping him with his child she hid from him right before she dies.
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01-06-2018, 12:42 PM
Quote: (10-15-2017 05:44 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:
^funny how looking back at american programs of the 70s it seems like the beginning of social engineering. brady bunch etc.
Ben Shapiro covered the whole thing pretty well in his book
Primetime Propaganda
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01-06-2018, 06:53 PM
Barney Fife
Radar O'Reilly
Ray Barone
Les Nesman
Cliff Claven