https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rea...skyrockets

There has been a sharp rise in suicides in a lot of groups in America over the last few years.

Could this be due to the economy?

The media loves to paint the picture that the economy is under control.

OGNorCal has the right idea.

Bang a hot black chick everything will be better.

That said, my PMs are open to PayPal donations for my depression treatments at the local Spearmint Rhino.

Thank you.

I think the economy probably plays a role in it; considering how only 25% of the population are college graduates, and how finding a full-time job fresh out of high school which pays enough to be self-sufficient is tough. A lot of them are probably disillusioned with still being stuck living with parents.

Thankfully forums like this provide information on how to make a good living through less conventional methods.

Divorce is a huge cause of male suicide. The abandonment of the elderly is another.

Dupe, mostly:

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The same people who ignored us when we explained how to LifeHack hedonism are the same people who are ignoring us now, as we warn that hedonism is going to run off the rails and into a cliff.

But they know the cliff is coming, and they don't want to face it.

Quote: (07-01-2016 05:39 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

Divorce is a huge cause of male suicide. The abandonment of the elderly is another.

Likely the unrealistic "Disney movie" narrative in the media, where "being happily ever after with that special someone" is the be-all-end-all purpose in life plays a role in this; that and the fact that married men shelter themselves off from the outside world when they get hitched instead of mantaining strong social circles of male companionship.

Why white male suicide has skyrocketed. A explanation in two easy steps.

1). 1986: The up-and-coming young men of the "Ferris Bueller" generation go to shopping malls and cannot concentrate because of the massive (and I mean MASSIVE) amount of super-hot women everywhere, all the time, 24/7:


2). 2016: The aging "Ferris Bueller" generation goes out shopping and this is now the sort of thing they see:
   

The end.

Quote: (07-01-2016 06:05 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Why white male suicide has skyrocketed. A explanation in two easy steps.

1). 1986: The up-and-coming young men of the "Ferris Bueller" generation go to shopping malls and cannot concentrate because of the massive (and I mean MASSIVE) amount of super-hot women everywhere, all the time, 24/7:

-snip-.

Second from left looks suspiciously Tranny like. I'd check that pussy carefully before entering and definitely no anal before checking if (s)he has meat and two veg.

Nah, she's just there to make the others look even hotter. She was probably at the mall to get her upper lip waxed, and got in the picture.

Quote: (07-01-2016 02:50 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rea...skyrockets

There has been a sharp rise in suicides in a lot of groups in America over the last few years.

Could this be due to the economy?

The media loves to paint the picture that the economy is under control.

White males have long had by far the highest suicide rate of any demographic. It makes no sense that it would have to do with the economy, as white males are also collectively the wealthiest demographic.

There are two things I observe white males suffering from more than any other group:

1. Being shit on by SJWs/feminists, their lackeys in the mainstream media, and politicians looking to score cheap votes from the identity politics crowds.
2. Loneliness

#1 frankly isn't that big of a deal and shouldn't drive anyone to suicide. So my guess is that it's driven by loneliness, which is being exacerbated lately by the ever-increasing difficulty for a low-medium value man to land a decent, loyal woman.

Of course it's difficult for men of all races to land a good woman, but the white population for whatever reason seems to have many more super introverted aspies who, on top of their ineptitude with women, also have no friends. I'm betting these are the guys committing suicide.

Loneliness, isolation and a lack of purpose. Add to that no hope of ever having a family. Why not give up? There is truly nothing to live for. That's my life.

Today I listened to an episode of "The Art of Manliness" that's several weeks old. It was an interview with the author of "Charlie Mike" talking about some of the issues that are affecting returning vets. Going from being part of a team to being alone. Going from having a mission to having none. There are a few organizations out there that are addressing those issues.

Being a man among men. Having a greater purpose to strive for. That is what we need and don't have in modern society.

Quote: (07-01-2016 08:23 PM)chicane Wrote:  

Loneliness, isolation and a lack of purpose. Add to that no hope of ever having a family. Why not give up? There is truly nothing to live for. That's my life.

Today I listened to an episode of "The Art of Manliness" that's several weeks old. It was an interview with the author of "Charlie Mike" talking about some of the issues that are affecting returning vets. Going from being part of a team to being alone. Going from having a mission to having none. There are a few organizations out there that are addressing those issues.

Being a man among men. Having a greater purpose to strive for. That is what we need and don't have in modern society.

Could also be the result of the overwhelmingly negative attitudes toward work, especially "corporate" or "low-wage jobs" perpetuated by the media and conditioning men to just "hate their job/boss/coworkers" and blame it for their unhappy lives.

Definitely seem like the left-wing has helped to destroy the notion of work ethic which made this country great in the first place; when men spend 8 or more hours every day feeling like a 'wage slave' instead of taking pride in what they do, I'm sure this contributes to it - even moreso if they hate their job and are just "working" hoping to support a wife and kids; when that doesn't work out they probably feel all those years of hard work were in vein and that their life is utterly meaningless.

I've tried to find some TV shows, literature, films that actually paint the workplace today in a positive light, but it's nearly non-existent (save for some Christian theology readings I'm going to check out).

Likewise nearly every work-oriented forum is just filled with whiny, complaint comments about how much one's job sucks, and those who actually have good things to say about working 'menial' jobs are viewed as 'goody-two-shoes'.

We've gone from the greatest generation of WWII to a 'generation' of man-children where hating one's job and wishing one could just sit at home and get paid to play Halo all day is a "norm".

I think Karl Marx's ideology of "blaming capitalism" for all the ills of the world, and it's possible influence on the Baby Boomer counter-culture generation is partly what is responsible for this; the American colonists performed druge-work in much harsher conditions and stakes than modern Americans do, and they didn't sit around bitching about it, they sucked it up and viewed it as something morally virtuous; work was something one took real pride in, and the real joy of work was doing one's best as an end in and of itself, not simply as a means to and end to get a paycheck (this is also how most of our self-made millionares viewed work; Andrew Carnegie started off polishing shoes for barely any money, and learn the joy and value of honest labor; he didn't whine about those "evil rich people" or demand a raise to the minimum wage.)

Only to give us the country we have so that we could take it for granted and throw all of their values out the window.

It's a lousy economy coupled with a sexual marketplace that is heavily tilted toward females.

I'm pretty sure that Native Americans have higher suicide rates than whites, in Canada anyway.

Quote: (07-02-2016 12:02 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I'm pretty sure that Native Americans have higher suicide rates than whites, in Canada anyway.

Alcoholism related?

I guess I should add that my career is over. I will never get the chance to be anything more than a keyboard monkey. I have a much greater knowledge and experience than the morons I have to clean up after. I'm sick and tired of fixing their stupid problems when I know how to avoid them in the first place. But I'll never get that chance. Not having a career adds to the problems I mentioned earlier. I can never actually solve the problems I know how to solve.

Is this sarcastic?

Quote: (07-01-2016 08:23 PM)chicane Wrote:  

Loneliness, isolation and a lack of purpose. Add to that no hope of ever having a family. Why not give up? There is truly nothing to live for. That's my life.

Today I listened to an episode of "The Art of Manliness" that's several weeks old. It was an interview with the author of "Charlie Mike" talking about some of the issues that are affecting returning vets. Going from being part of a team to being alone. Going from having a mission to having none. There are a few organizations out there that are addressing those issues.

Being a man among men. Having a greater purpose to strive for. That is what we need and don't have in modern society.

I'm not sure if I liked this post by accident. I agree with most of it except for the bit at the start. For every man who wants to do himself in because he doesn't have a family, there's a man who wants to do himself in because he can't provide for the one he has or his shitty wife has simply poisoned the family social dynamic.

Raising a family isn't some sort of assumption that "just happens" when you reach a certain age. The universe is not obligated to provide you with one. If you want a decent wife who will help you raise decent kids then similar principles to game apply.

Anyone who says it can't be done is like the newbie that introduces himself to the forum by telling everyone that "game doesn't exist".

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I guess I should add that my career is over. I will never get the chance to be anything more than a keyboard monkey. I have a much greater knowledge and experience than the morons I have to clean up after. I'm sick and tired of fixing their stupid problems when I know how to avoid them in the first place. But I'll never get that chance. Not having a career adds to the problems I mentioned earlier. I can never actually solve the problems I know how to solve.

Anyone that has a skill has the means to start a business. Their mentality is what traps them. Not the world. There are 70 year olds starting successful businesses in my district and guys in their fifties starting families that will provide them sons that will be in their twenties when their father nears his life expectancy.

Quote: (07-01-2016 10:02 PM)EDantes Wrote:  

We've gone from the greatest generation of WWII to a 'generation' of man-children where hating one's job and wishing one could just sit at home and get paid to play Halo all day is a "norm".

I think Karl Marx's ideology of "blaming capitalism" for all the ills of the world, and it's possible influence on the Baby Boomer counter-culture generation is partly what is responsible for this; the American colonists performed druge-work in much harsher conditions and stakes than modern Americans do, and they didn't sit around bitching about it, they sucked it up and viewed it as something morally virtuous; work was something one took real pride in, and the real joy of work was doing one's best as an end in and of itself, not simply as a means to and end to get a paycheck (this is also how most of our self-made millionares viewed work; Andrew Carnegie started off polishing shoes for barely any money, and learn the joy and value of honest labor; he didn't whine about those "evil rich people" or demand a raise to the minimum wage.)

Only to give us the country we have so that we could take it for granted and throw all of their values out the window.

Men hate work because it doesn't give them access to women like it used to. Before, getting a wife was easier than getting a high school degree. Any regular job would attract women provided you could make the effort to go to work everyday. This was true from Rome to the Inquisition to Colonial America up until women's "emancipation."

Nowadays, there's no such incentive. Working at most jobs guarantees little from women. The only way to reliably attract women with a job is if you have a top 20% or so job, so if you can't achieve this or don't want to put in the effort then your options are to become a player or some kind of MGTOW (nerd, recluse, homosexual, whoring).

However, at some point, the MGTOW options lose all value in a man's life, especially after 50, so you see a tremendous amount of suicide occur after these ages. The 80% of men without the baller jobs to attract females usually don't have a family by 50+ and many find no reason to continue living. This process started in the 80's when feminism and careerism became extremely toxic within the schools, so we're seeing a huge amount of childlessness from those born in the 60's and 70's. Our generation is even worse, the birth rates for women born in the 80's and 90's is beyond abysmal right now.

It goes without saying our civilization is utterly unsustainable on its current path.

Quote: (07-02-2016 01:39 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Men hate work because it doesn't give them access to women like it used to. Before, getting a wife was easier than getting a high school degree. Any regular job would attract women provided you could make the effort to go to work everyday. This was true from Rome to the Inquisition to Colonial America up until women's "emancipation."

Work isn't strictly a "means to an end" to gain women though; basically I believe a lot of a man's pride comes from taking pride in his work and the feeling of competency and contribution to a "tribe" that it gives him. If he stops caring about it and sees it just as means to and end to earn a paycheck or attract a woman, then he'll lose all sense of purpose in his life.

Modern desk jobs aren't the type of work men are best cut out for; for most of history they engaged in physical labor in the company of fellow men; but if a man doesn't to hate his life then he needs to find a way value what he does.

Quote: (07-01-2016 06:05 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Why white male suicide has skyrocketed. A explanation in two easy steps.

1). 1986: The up-and-coming young men of the "Ferris Bueller" generation go to shopping malls and cannot concentrate because of the massive (and I mean MASSIVE) amount of super-hot women everywhere, all the time, 24/7:


2). 2016: The aging "Ferris Bueller" generation goes out shopping and this is now the sort of thing they see:


The end.

This post is probably a bit overkill with Occam's razor, but I think the two pictures sum it up pretty well. What kind of country would produce the former picture, and what kind of country would produce the latter?

Another factor that might be at play here is the ever increasing number of young men who were raised in broken families - be it in fatherless homes, or homes where the mother is the head of the family. Being raised in such an environment mentally handicaps you in a very cruel way.

Young boys need fathers to instill confidence in them, and to teach them how to endure the hardships of life. Without that the whole facade tends to crumble when you become an adult and have to face the shitty economy and the modern sexual marketplace.

This is what I posted in a dupe thread back in November: Death Rates Rising for Middle-Aged White Americans - My Post

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Well, what do you expect from a group that has seen the following:

1. Divorce raped into the next dimension

2. Jobs shipped overseas / benefits destroyed.

3. Vibrant communities now ghost towns.

4. Constantly reminded by the media and society that your problems don’t matter because you’re white and well, you have it easy. Say anything un-PC and have your life destroyed.

5. Multiple stupid fuckin wars (Vietnam and Iraq) that have claimed the lives of many of your relatives and/or friends. Those severely injured are left to deal with the inefficient VA that barely can do anything right for years on end; despite the fact politicians have time to appease and bend over backwards for stupid bullshit SJW causes and illegal immigrants.

6. Watched illegal immigrants be given preferential status in many instances; including in the labor market, welfare benefits, and culturally.

7. Once feminine thin women turn into fat disgusting slobs who abuse the court system to extract every cent of child support possible. No one cares that you can’t pay or see your kids frequently.

Some people are simply going to be overwhelmed with all the aforementioned and give up. For those left, sadness will eventually turn to anger. There is a reason someone like Trump is doing as well as he is in the polls. A storm several decades in the making is coming.

Furthermore, what chicane said rings very true:

Quote:chicane Wrote:

Loneliness, isolation and a lack of purpose. Add to that no hope of ever having a family. Why not give up? There is truly nothing to live for. That's my life.

Today I listened to an episode of "The Art of Manliness" that's several weeks old. It was an interview with the author of "Charlie Mike" talking about some of the issues that are affecting returning vets. Going from being part of a team to being alone. Going from having a mission to having none. There are a few organizations out there that are addressing those issues.

As a veteran, I can speak about this directly. One of the most jarring things about returning to civilian life is realizing and finally accepting that no one gives a shit about your service time unless they have a relative/close friend that was/still in the military.

Since only a very small part of the population joins the military now, you run into A LOT of people (dating, employers, random people) who have ZERO concept of what you REALLY have dealt with being government property during wartime for years on end. Furthermore, sometimes people will even TALK DOWN to you like you those 4+ years of your life were on easy street or something. I shit you not: I've even had people say to me I don't deserve the GI Bill; implying directly or indirectly that I didn't it earn it in some capacity.

Unless you talk to other veterans, no one seems to remotely get it, have the slightest care in the world of just trying to get it a tiny bit, or gives a shit just in general. It can be pretty isolating sometimes; especially if you live in a libtard area where anti-military viewpoints are a bit more prevalent.

In dating, I've had chicks ask me if I had PTSD from the get-go (I don't). I've had other chicks say that they won't even date a Marine or anyone in the military just on principle. Even had a few whores say they will only date officers. Many chicks seem to have a anti-military bent to them; even if you are ex-military. Because many of these chicks only have a superficial concept of the military, you actually start off in the hole with them; having to prove that you are not like "the typical military guy."

Employers put on a big PR front about hiring vets but its mostly just a front. As I've come to find out, many organizations behind the scenes don't want veterans due to possible integration issues and/or due to a fear of making the current employees look like shit. Many simply don't even know how to interpret your experience or give it the basic respect/benefit of the doubt it deserves. If you don't fit into their square box designed for people on a strict civilian career track, you are pretty much fucked unless you get someone in the hiring process who is ex-military themselves.

Anyhow, as a veteran who happens to be a white male: it is only relatively recently where I have realized and accepted that the overall culture and society largely doesn't give a shit about me no matter what I do. I'm guilty before innocent and my problems and concerns don't matter. That's life but I won't be standing by waiting to take in the ass from ignorant arrogant people that don't give a shit about me; hoping they will come around one day. I'll just do what I have to do to move forward like I have always done.

On a random note: I was just in the gym a while back having a laugh with some guy joking about silly "first world problems" and some sloppy fat Asian chick yelled out in the middle of our conversation "you mean first world white peoples problems!"

I played it off and kept my cool obviously with that minor shit-test but I could tell by the tone of her voice that there was a real undercurrent of resentment and that because I'm a white male, somehow I don't have real issues in my life, I was born on 2nd base, and I shit out gold bars as par for the course. If anyone knew me and what I've been through, they'd know that is absolutely bullshit.

I wrote a massive post about what life is like for many guys these days if anyone wants a sense about what I mean exactly: The "Entitled Millennial" Non-Sense is Getting Really Tiresome

As I said in my dupe thread post:

Some people are simply going to be overwhelmed with all the aforementioned and give up. For those left, sadness will eventually turn to anger. There is a reason someone like Trump is doing as well as he is in the polls. A storm several decades in the making is coming.

It's a difficult time to be a man now. Personally I found that creating your own culture so to speak by surrounding yourself with people who have the same belief systems as you. As well as finding a purpose or agency that you can improve yourselves towards in adherence to, can provide the intrinsic validation which you need in order to be a man. Getting into masculine professions or hobbies (As finding masculine jobs nowadays is very difficult) can be a positive turning point. Needless to say moving to another country, but sometimes the rot has set in so deep, that even dumping somebody off in a provincial city in Russia won't be enough.

It is incredibly how just a few one on one talks with male friends can have such a positive impact on their lives. I've seen their entire life direction change in a positive way. There are forces at work who despise this and wish to keep boys staying as boys, it feels safer that way. Men now should be striving to be as unapologetic and masculine as possible.