Even if it's not too often, would you let your LTR or a wife hang out with her group of friends(some of them male friends) in places like pubs and bars?

Will you join her when she hangs out with group of people that you don't like only to show some appearance?
Would you mind if she goes to a gay party? In the past I thought it's ok, but it's still disgusting.

I think it's not feminine when women drink, even if it's only one beer, but it's even worse if the boyfriend is not around.

I meet too many women that think it's normal and conventional, it seems that they try to shame me because of my opinion in that matter.
I ended some relationships because of that, am I too harsh?

Doesn't matter what we think.

If you don't like it, next the bitches.

Abundance mentality.

You gonna end up like this thinking about how much guys cum up in her behind the bar's dumpster...

Quote: (03-04-2016 03:18 AM)nomadd Wrote:  

Even if it's not too often, would you let your LTR or a wife hang out with her group of friends(some of them male friends) in places like pubs and bars?

Will you join her when she hangs out with group of people that you don't like only to show some appearance?
Would you mind if she goes to a gay party? In the past I thought it's ok, but it's still disgusting.

I think it's not feminine when women drink, even if it's only one beer, but it's even worse if the boyfriend is not around.

I meet too many women that think it's normal and conventional, it seems that they try to shame me because of my opinion in that matter.
I ended some relationships because of that, am I too harsh?

Could you please tell me why? In my experience, having sex while buzzed often beats having sex sober. Being totally wasted is worse tho.

You can't change who she is.

If you tell her not to do something, she'll do it anyway behind your back, eventually.
Exchange her for one who doesn't like to drink, problem solved.

Quote: (03-04-2016 03:48 AM)262 Wrote:  

Doesn't matter what we think.

If you don't like it, next the bitches.

Abundance mentality.

I don't mind having fun with these adorable ladies, but for marriage or LTR purposes it's something else.

I don't need alcohol to enjoy or to get women into my bed, the reason that I wanted to hear different opinions is that I think my opinion is rare even between red pill minded men.

It's not about jealousy or something, that's why I mentioned gay parties.

Quote: (03-04-2016 04:08 AM)blck Wrote:  



You gonna end up like this thinking about how much guys cum up in her behind the bar's dumpster...

Your personal experience doesn't apply to everyone.
My advice: don't upload your selfies here.

After knowing what goes on and being involved in that? Obviously not dude.

Also blck needs to refrain from uploading anymore of whatever the fuck he's into.

If your wife wants to hang out in pubs, you have chosen poorly.

Tell her she's not allowed, if there's any significant argument or "shaming" next her. Also none of you have seen It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

Most American women don't care about the perception of questionable actions. If they want to do something dubious, there is no winning with them.

Let me tell you about a cunt I use to bang:

1. Thought it was cool that a guy friend come over to her place alone at night.

2. Thought it was fine to text/talk to ex-boyfriend regularity and meet alone occasionally.

3. Thought it was cool to go to the bar with mixed-gender friends regularity.

4. Didn't cook and didn't feel that cooking for a man was important.

I basically called out this chick on all the aforementioned and then some and it resulted in a bunch of drama and waste of time. Lesson learned.

The point is: don't bother "letting" someone do something you deem dubious (assuming it is legit). Good chicks know what is proper and what isn't. Good chicks don't really exist in America in significant numbers so it can seem like you're the one maybe being unreasonable if you haven't experienced proper women.

You're not the unreasonable one. I promise you. You just live in the twilight zone of male-female relationships. Keep women who engage in dubious actions as FWBs only; never LTR them and if you do, drop immediately.

Quote: (03-05-2016 05:22 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Most American women don't care about the perception of questionable actions. If they want to do something dubious, there is no winning with them.

Let me tell you about a cunt I use to bang:

1. Thought it was cool that a guy friend come over to her place alone at night.

2. Thought it was fine to text/talk to ex-boyfriend regularity and meet alone occasionally.

3. Thought it was cool to go to the bar with mixed-gender friends regularity.

4. Didn't cook and didn't feel that cooking for a man was important.

I basically called out this chick on all the aforementioned and then some and it resulted in a bunch of drama and waste of time. Lesson learned.

The point is: don't bother "letting" someone do something you deem dubious (assuming it is legit). Good chicks know what is proper and what isn't. Good chicks don't really exist in America in significant numbers so it can seem like you're the one maybe being unreasonable if you haven't experienced proper women.

You're not the unreasonable one. I promise you. You just live in the twilight zone of male-female relationships. Keep women who engage in dubious actions as FWBs only; never LTR them and if you do, drop immediately.

May be I'm really too harsh because it's far from what you have described.

My perception is that a married woman or in a LTR shouldn't have male friends at all and shouldn't go to pubs not even rarely.

Quote: (03-05-2016 08:24 AM)nomadd Wrote:  

My perception is that a married woman or in a LTR shouldn't have male friends at all and shouldn't go to pubs not even rarely.

Well this is the age of the liberated woman.

What you're describing is how women were generally back in a bygone era of Western civilization. The men would drink alcohol and the women would sit together and drink tea. The only social life they had was having knitting parties with the neighbors' wives etc.

You like what you like, and you don't like what you don't like. I will say if you do want to get married or even get a serious girlfriend for a period of time, then you will have to compromise some of these ideals unless you're content venturing to far off lands and cultures to find what you're looking for.

Quote: (03-05-2016 12:51 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Quote: (03-05-2016 08:24 AM)nomadd Wrote:  

My perception is that a married woman or in a LTR shouldn't have male friends at all and shouldn't go to pubs not even rarely.

Well this is the age of the liberated woman.

What you're describing is how women were generally back in a bygone era of Western civilization. The men would drink alcohol and the women would sit together and drink tea. The only social life they had was having knitting parties with the neighbors' wives etc.

You like what you like, and you don't like what you don't like. I will say if you do want to get married or even get a serious girlfriend for a period of time, then you will have to compromise some of these ideals unless you're content venturing to far off lands and cultures to find what you're looking for.

where are those lands and cultures? I will buy the ticket tomorrow

I can't speak from personal experience, but a lot of the seasoned and well-traveled vets on this forum always say Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, and South America. You're best bet would probably be to look for women in more rural areas or at least smaller 2nd/3rd tier cities. Even in more "traditional" cultures I imagine major metropolitan areas will be somewhat progressive and Westernized.

Quote: (03-05-2016 01:25 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

I can't speak from personal experience, but a lot of the seasoned and well-traveled vets on this forum always say Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, and South America. You're best bet would probably be to look for women in more rural areas or at least smaller 2nd/3rd tier cities. Even in more "traditional" cultures I imagine major metropolitan areas will be somewhat progressive and Westernized.

Also, your best bet would be to stay out of bars and clubs and forget about Tinder even in those countries. Even then it's not going to be easy.

Quote: (03-04-2016 09:34 AM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  

If your wife wants to hang out in pubs, you have chosen poorly.

^^^^This. In my world the issue isn't whether I'd "let her" go hang out without me but rather that she wants to.

Analogous to if a girl wants to go suck another cock but only doesn't because you dont let her?

Intent is the same as action... in my world

"Bitch"

Quote: (03-04-2016 03:18 AM)nomadd Wrote:  

Even if it's not too often, would you let your LTR or a wife hang out with her group of friends(some of them male friends) in places like pubs and bars?

Will you join her when she hangs out with group of people that you don't like only to show some appearance?
Would you mind if she goes to a gay party? In the past I thought it's ok, but it's still disgusting.

I think it's not feminine when women drink, even if it's only one beer, but it's even worse if the boyfriend is not around.

I meet too many women that think it's normal and conventional, it seems that they try to shame me because of my opinion in that matter.
I ended some relationships because of that, am I too harsh?

If you're worried about your woman being at a pub, let's cut the bs and admit the real reason - you're insecure. Don't say it's "not feminine to drink" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure, and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her drinking out with her friends. As stated above, have the abundance mentality, or else every one of your relationships is doomed from the start. It leads to toxic relationships, surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Deal with your own issues first. I used to have the same problem as you, so I know where you're coming from.

I learned a long time ago that telling American women anything is likely to result in the undesired behavior.

Instead you have to train them and make them understand that you trust them and that should they not follow your lead in the relationship the moment they are off to the beach house of a GF for a weekend without you - you will be balls deep in your other female admirers.

Look at Bill Clinton - he can't yell at Hillary, He can't beat Hillary and he can't stop Hillary from being a Lesbie coont - but he sure as hell can get all the strange he wants when Hillary is off on her frequent road trips.

She is humiliated sexually by him constantly for being the bitch she is and she still sticks by him like glue...

If one of my LTRs goes out with the girls or away for the weekend or worse to Hawaii for a week with her bestie...

She will be tasting more than one other woman's funk that I will not shower off when she comes back for guilt BJs and sex.

Unless she is a total slut in which case I would not LTR her in the first place - sexual attitude correction combined with laying stiff pipe that keeps her walking bowlegged complaining of rope burn is about the best no-stray insurance a man can hope for.

Of course I explain to them the Italian rules once we become regular and they find out quick if I deem their behavior in or out of the bedroom to be disrespectful in any way.

Result no alimony and no child support but did have to next some decent lays and forego other lays that in retrospect would have been better LTRs.

If anything I have learned that Red Pill wisdom mandates you drop the NEXT hammer much sooner than later.

Now that I am at the point of wanting a few little legacies to raise properly I make sure to have a deal breakers discussion right up front with prospective baby mommas and they know that if they want to see me put a ring on it then the dealbreakers are in fact DEAL BREAKERS. Its all part of carefully house breaking and training the modern phuckable feral western female.

Of course if you do put a ring on it you have to game them for life with subtle dread game should they let any little feral phocking female GFs put any unacceptable ideas into their little heads. They dare step out of line as a mother and I am a ghost to Red Pill countries unknown (to her). This is why every man needs to keep a secret bug out fund preferably in an offshore corporate entity just in case that the LTRs have no knowledge of.

Quote: (03-05-2016 01:12 PM)nomadd Wrote:  

where are those lands and cultures? I will buy the ticket tomorrow

Wife Hunting Abroad

Report back motherfucker.

Quote: (03-08-2016 11:15 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  

If you're worried about your woman being at a pub, let's cut the bs and admit the real reason - you're insecure. Don't say it's "not feminine to drink" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure, and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her drinking out with her friends. As stated above, have the abundance mentality, or else every one of your relationships is doomed from the start. It leads to toxic relationships, surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Deal with your own issues first. I used to have the same problem as you, so I know where you're coming from.

Let's be clear about the above as well. Socialists (feminism is just socialism for women) will say you should accept any BS your woman does, otherwise you're insecure.

No.

What you should be secure about is that if you personally consider her actions BS, then you should be secure enough to next her and apply standard Game advice:

Go approach other girls.

Edit: By doing that, you'll get a better feel for what you can realistically expect from your local sexual market. You may find you don't like your local sexual market, in which case, you'll either have to compromise, or find a better sexual market.

Quote: (03-08-2016 11:15 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  

If you're worried about your woman being at a pub, let's cut the bs and admit the real reason - you're insecure. Don't say it's "not feminine to drink" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure, and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her drinking out with her friends. As stated above, have the abundance mentality, or else every one of your relationships is doomed from the start. It leads to toxic relationships, surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Deal with your own issues first. I used to have the same problem as you, so I know where you're coming from.

If your woman wants to go out and spend indiscriminately on her credit card and go into large amounts of debt, you shouldn't be worried about it. The real reason is that you're insecure. Don't say, "her fiscal responsibility is my concern" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her going into debt on her own credit cards. As stated above, have the abundance mentality or else every one of your other relationships will be with people of sound fiscal judgement. People who keep an eye on their expenditures as well as the expenditures of others close to them are greedy and insecure.

Quote: (03-08-2016 11:15 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  

If you're worried about your woman being at a pub, let's cut the bs and admit the real reason - you're insecure. Don't say it's "not feminine to drink" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure, and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her drinking out with her friends. As stated above, have the abundance mentality, or else every one of your relationships is doomed from the start. It leads to toxic relationships, surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Deal with your own issues first. I used to have the same problem as you, so I know where you're coming from.

Likewise, it's a definite sign of "insecurity" if you're not ok with your LTR doing the following:

- Getting pissed drunk in the company of men without you
- Hanging out with male "friends" one on one.
- Having late night phone calls/text messages with your male "friends"
- Traveling with her friends without you
- Going to girls weekends to destinations such as Vegas.

Remember, you need abundance mentality. Not being ok with the above is just being surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Quote: (03-09-2016 05:12 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Quote: (03-08-2016 11:15 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  

If you're worried about your woman being at a pub, let's cut the bs and admit the real reason - you're insecure. Don't say it's "not feminine to drink" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure, and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her drinking out with her friends. As stated above, have the abundance mentality, or else every one of your relationships is doomed from the start. It leads to toxic relationships, surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Deal with your own issues first. I used to have the same problem as you, so I know where you're coming from.

If your woman wants to go out and spend indiscriminately on her credit card and go into large amounts of debt, you shouldn't be worried about it. The real reason is that you're insecure. Don't say, "her fiscal responsibility is my concern" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her going into debt on her own credit cards. As stated above, have the abundance mentality or else every one of your other relationships will be with people of sound fiscal judgement. People who keep an eye on their expenditures as well as the expenditures of others close to them are greedy and insecure.

It's quite obvious that he's not worried about her being fiscally sound. And as he says, "even if it's not too often", but hey, I guess controlling your woman, and not letting her go out with friends is manly and completely rational.

I guess you never go out for drinks with your friends, because you want to be fiscally sound.

Got a good chuckle out of this - thanks. Didn't know going out for drinks a few times with friends is breaking the bank.

Quote: (03-09-2016 07:55 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  

Quote: (03-09-2016 05:12 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Quote: (03-08-2016 11:15 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  

If you're worried about your woman being at a pub, let's cut the bs and admit the real reason - you're insecure. Don't say it's "not feminine to drink" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure, and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her drinking out with her friends. As stated above, have the abundance mentality, or else every one of your relationships is doomed from the start. It leads to toxic relationships, surrounded by a cloud of jealousy and insecurity.

Deal with your own issues first. I used to have the same problem as you, so I know where you're coming from.

If your woman wants to go out and spend indiscriminately on her credit card and go into large amounts of debt, you shouldn't be worried about it. The real reason is that you're insecure. Don't say, "her fiscal responsibility is my concern" because that's absolutely ridiculous.

You're insecure and you need to get over this. There's no other reason you have an issue with her going into debt on her own credit cards. As stated above, have the abundance mentality or else every one of your other relationships will be with people of sound fiscal judgement. People who keep an eye on their expenditures as well as the expenditures of others close to them are greedy and insecure.

It's quite obvious that he's not worried about her being fiscally sound. And as he says, "even if it's not too often", but hey, I guess controlling your woman, and not letting her go out with friends is manly and completely rational.

I guess you never go out for drinks with your friends, because you want to be fiscally sound.

Got a good chuckle out of this - thanks. Didn't know going out for drinks a few times with friends is breaking the bank.

At the end of the day, it all depends on the spectrum of behaviours. If she's going out infrequently with her female friends to have a drink OR two and then going home, great. If she's going out with her hoe bag friends and getting drunk, not so great.

Here's one thing I do believe though: most LTR worthy chicks when they go out to catch up with friends are doing dinner like activities and then maybe having a drink or two. They're not going to get drunk at some pub and flirting with dudes.

To each their own though.