62's Poland Relocation Journal
07-13-2015, 02:17 PM
Sounds like things are picking up out there in Poland! Enjoyed reading the report, its only a matter of time before the lay comes. Enjoy it bro, I'll try holding it down here in ATL, haha.
Quote: (07-13-2015 02:17 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:
Sounds like things are picking up out there in Poland! Enjoyed reading the report, its only a matter of time before the lay comes. Enjoy it bro, I'll try holding it down here in ATL, haha.
Quote: (07-16-2015 12:21 AM)virus Wrote:
Thanks for this thread, really. I'm 20 this year and this is exactly what I have planned, saving and investing in ETFs and relocating. Controlling the urge to spend can be quite hard at times and the vision of a better life almost seems impossible but seeing you actually doing this inspires me to persist.
Quote: (07-16-2015 08:34 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:
Easiest way to save a lot is to live at home. I moved back home after school and the amount of savings on housing / food is substantial on a yearly basis. It's not ideal to be my age living at home but great for saving / investing.
Quote: (07-16-2015 08:34 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:
Easiest way to save a lot is to live at home. I moved back home after school and the amount of savings on housing / food is substantial on a yearly basis. It's not ideal to be my age living at home but great for saving / investing.
Quote: (07-16-2015 12:24 PM)262 Wrote:
Quote: (07-16-2015 08:34 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:
Easiest way to save a lot is to live at home. I moved back home after school and the amount of savings on housing / food is substantial on a yearly basis. It's not ideal to be my age living at home but great for saving / investing.
In between living at home with the parents and living alone, on the saving versus Game perspective, is also having roommates.
In other news, the "red-pill" Central European flaked. Sent a classic and unrelated ping text this morning to check her temperature, and no response. So I knew the chances of a flake just went up. I go anyway, since I figure I'll do some daygame if she flakes, and sure enough, she does. No warning, no nothing. Hours later, she texts something about being sick and forgetting; most importantly, no offer to make it better. Pretty sure she's leaving tomorrow, plus she's "sick," so no hope for even a hate bang either. Next. Kicking myself for not going for the SDDL (same day delay lay - meet her in the day, but too early for an SDL, so get the number and set something up for that evening).
To any "red-pill" ladies lurking on these forums: this is why we will assume you are not red-pill, no matter how much you say it to be so. We will judge you on your actions alone. The only excuse for flaking is something so dramatic that it's incapacitating. In the case of the woman above, clearly she wasn't incapacitated, so she gets next'ed. It's the same as not showing up for a job: do it unannounced, and don't be surprised if you're demoted or fired.
In either case, I took the negative energy from this experience and converted it into something positive: motivation to do daygame. Had a great set with a local Polish dancer - number-closed her. She was so hot that even the normally-timid Polish guys were verbally noticing her. Then, in the next set with a 7, my Yad-stop didn't even stop her. Talk about highs and lows!
One thing that might have helped me in the set with the Polish dancer was that I had my nice sunglasses on until she hooked. This may have helped the switch into rapport after I knew attraction was done.
One question that came to my head as I finished "venting" my energy through daygame was - how do I know when I've done too many approaches - that I'm coming across as a robot? I suppose if the girls react with a robotic no, I'll know I'm done. An interesting problem, since I've never had this much daytime to myself, and with nightgame, it's only on at certain hours and days.
Quote: (07-16-2015 01:46 PM)samsamsam Wrote:
Quote: (07-16-2015 08:34 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:
Easiest way to save a lot is to live at home. I moved back home after school and the amount of savings on housing / food is substantial on a yearly basis. It's not ideal to be my age living at home but great for saving / investing.
I think it is key while you are saving to be making some smart investments. It may be hard to just put all your money into index funds and grow it fast enough. I said may.
You might have to make some smart specific stock picks or use the capital to buy and sell stuff, etc.
Need to put the money to work.
Quote: (07-16-2015 06:28 PM)Driesinator Wrote:
Keep going brother.
If you ever need some motivation to approach , check this link :
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/04/...verywhere/
If you do find yourself getting flaked on too much, see if you can change something about your looks or re-evaluate your Game.
Just one tip i'm going to give : Don't focus too much on 'red-pill' and 'Game' stuff. Find out what works for you and go with the flow. Polish girls like 'fun' guys who don't take everything too seriously, atleast the young ones.
Also, Poland is pretty much dead right now it seems, all i see here in Lublin are old people. Some cute girls but they all have boyfriends or are here to visit family.
If i were you i would look at Ukraine, book a trip out to Odessa or Lviv for a week and see how you like it there.
When September rolls around and college students start flooding in, you can come back to Poland , it will be better everywhere in Polish cities.
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I figured this was going to happen (I attempted to compensate for it, will reveal how later), but the larger point of me being here was to see if I could live here (confirmed).
Also, as I mentioned before, starting mid-next-month, I'll be in the FSU proper.
Quote: (07-17-2015 03:36 AM)dontuan Wrote:
I have been following this thread and you've got an interesting plan there. The only concern I have is if you end up liking it how are you going to stay long term in a place like the Ukraine and other FSU states?
Do a search and you'll see that figuring out a legit path to residency in Ukraine has been discussed ad nauseam on many message boards. Other than getting a work permit for a job, school enrollment or marrying a local, there doesn't seem to be a way around the 90 day in/out rule.
Quote: (07-17-2015 06:51 AM)aphelion Wrote:
It seems like you gave up on Poland in record time. What in the world were you expecting?
Quote: (07-16-2015 06:25 AM)262 Wrote:
One quick stream-of-consciousness counter-thought to the idea that working on your Game in a harsh environment is best: here in Poland, I've found that I've been getting enough "air time" with girls that I get more experiences to learn from. I suppose in a harsher environment I'd just have to work harder and smarter to get as much "air time," but I'd counter that there's a limit to how much time and smarts you can muster just for Game, never mind the rest of your life.
Quote: (05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!
Quote:WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
Or
Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
Quote: (07-17-2015 09:16 PM)peterfoo22 Wrote:
Hey 262,
Have you considered living Ukraine?
I've been to both Ukraine and Poland with the current exchange rate Ukraine is actually cheaper and has hotter girls.
I plan to live there 6 months out of the year coming next year.
You might want to also consider possibly teach English as a side job. Honestly it gets pretty boring doing nothing all day, and also you can pipeline girls and make a few bucks.
Just food for thought.
Quote: (07-18-2015 10:43 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:
As someone working in the oil and gas industry, your expectations of stable 6 figure salary for 10 years is ridiculous. As an engineer, your big cash is probably going to be paid from bonuses, overtime, and uplifts, not salary. Also a lot of the compensation most people receive is going to be in stock options for senior guys, so your 200k/year means u actually got 60-80k in salary and rest in options that are vested over a period of time that you can't touch until ex: 5 years. I know CNRL does this. As for year earnings, you could make more as junior guy than as a senior depending on market conditions. In one year you could make 350k and in a year like now you could be laid off with no job in sight for 1+ years. Also there's no 100k EIT jobs anymore man, until you get your P.eng there won't be that much cash. Hell, engineers(EITs) at transcanada make 40k starting.
I think senior plant engineers make about 120-150k salary but these guys have a shitload of experience. This is just what I heard from guys on site about engineers at the producers. A lot of the huge pay packets are from consulting guys who subcontract.
Quote: (01-01-2016 10:24 PM)Alpone Wrote:
262 - I skimmed the thread and didn't see you mention if the 4% withdrawal rate is based on assumed market appreciation or dividend payments. Some funds like Vanguard Wellington and REITs spin off substantial dividends which are more consistent/stable than market gains. Even if the market does poorly for a couple of years the dividend payments should take less of a hit.
The downside is some dividends (REITs) are taxed at ordinary income tax rates.