What kaotic said is true as shit, girls love when you can explain shit to them and you know what you're talking about. I'm training a new girl now, and just telling her what I'm going to do to her soaks her panties.

I had been into light BDSM shit for a few years, but I started getting more into it this year. I started learning shibari, and it's amazing what you can do with a couple 30 foot lengths of rope. They love it because you're taking full control, you can leave them completely helpless, and you're giving them a chance to be tied up in attention-grabbing ways.

Quote: (07-14-2015 11:17 PM)blck Wrote:  

Really interseting thread

Ropes ain't my thing but I found this more intersting:

I've got one of those, it's great when you're fucking doggystyle because you're going deep and she's wide open.

Quote: (07-15-2015 02:24 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2015 09:10 PM)amusedmastery Wrote:  

Have you ever run into potential legal issues such as an extreme ASD where she pursues a false rape or battery charge? How would you counter that?

With the numerous text messages she has sent me saying she can't wait to be dominated and fucked in to next week.

In the UK, text messages are stored permanently by the cell/service provider. This has proved useful for police in many types of situation. It could prove useful for players too.

Aftercare matters a LOT when it comes to shit like this. It's a lot more intense than your basic lay. When you're done, it's pretty much a necessity to cuddle and cooldown and all that, because just putting her out after you do this is asking for the hamster to kick in.

Save the text messages and all that too, but taking just a few minutes afterwards is an ounce of prevention that's worth a pound of cure.

Go to fetlife events to learn the tools of the BDSM trade then turn it loose on hotter vanilla girls. Though there definitely are some hot fetlife girls, it seems like most are at the extreme ends of the hotness scale.(for better or worse).

If you're trying to buy equipment Amazon's got a whole damn sex shop flying under the radar.

Cuffs, blindfolds, collars, gags, rope, whips, floggers, paddles, you name it. You can build a decent tool bag for under $100.

Amazon does seem to have some good BDSM starter kits. Does anyone have any brand recommendations? I don't want to buy cheap stuff that falls apart after a few uses.

I think the 2nd best part is getting them soaking wet at the restaurant while telling them exactly what I'm going to do and how hard.

Tried to go cheap and bought a $30 starter set from Amazon with basics like handcuffs, a coller with leashe, and few other things. Would not recommend, quality is shit, feels and looks cheap. If I find a good brand Ill post here, unless if someone has one they would recommend.

Yeah, you gotta get the real leather stuff, costs more but totally worth it.

Yeah, I don't even want to expirament with this crap, seems it would cheapen the experience and make me look like some kind of amateur (which I am of course).

stockroom.com and extremerestraints.com sell quality equipment.

Pre-built "kits" tend to suck in most facets of life compared to something you piece together yourself, and much like sex, if you look like you know what you're doing she'll believe you know what you're doing. You can look like a champ with a $5 flogger or a chump with a $50 one. You only look like an amateur if you act like it (which kinda ties into frame and game, come to think of it).

As an aside, it's surprising how much equipment you can jerry-rig with just a few various lengths of rope. You can make your own handcuffs, thighcuffs, spreader bar, ball/bit gag, collar, sling, striking instrument...if you find yourself short on stuff to use you can still manage with some rope and knowledge of a few basic knots and ties. TwoKnottyBoyz and Twisted Munk have a lot of tutorial videos out there on Youtube.

Quote: (07-23-2015 07:11 PM)Deuce Anna Half Wrote:  

As an aside, it's surprising how much equipment you can jerry-rig with just a few various lengths of rope. You can make your own handcuffs, thighcuffs, spreader bar, ball/bit gag, collar, sling, striking instrument...if you find yourself short on stuff to use you can still manage with some rope and knowledge of a few basic knots and ties. TwoKnottyBoyz and Twisted Munk have a lot of tutorial videos out there on Youtube.

I recommend not making the spreader bars, gags, or handcuffs from rope. They are flimsy and impractical. Better alternatives are tape gags and dowels and the basic wrap (see last video above).

Cat o' nines made of rope can look and work really nice, though.

TKB has several books all of which are quite good and make great dining table conversation.

I know it shouldn't be your primary option, I was saying that in a pinch you can make do with it.

Just bought some new Canes . Looking for a cat o 9 flogger . Love making girls asses purple .

https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/BadAssCanes

http://flogger.com/products/cat.html Canes plus these heavey floggers leave deep marks that last . If you find a pain slut , it's perfect . A lot of vanilla girls , can only handle a little spanking from a paddle .

Finally trained a sub into not being able to cum from a vibrator unless my cock is in her mouth. She can edge all she wants at home, or in front of me, but she is no longer able to cum on her own. Today she was begging me to suck my cock while she was going to town on her clit.

After throating me she had an explosive orgasm and never stopped sucking, eventually I pulled out and came all over her face.

Treat women the way you want to treat them and they will respond happily to a dominant hand.

Quote: (07-26-2015 04:31 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Finally trained a sub into not being able to cum from a vibrator unless my cock is in her mouth. She can edge all she wants at home, or in front of me, but she is no longer able to cum on her own. Today she was begging me to suck my cock while she was going to town on her clit.

After throating me she had an explosive orgasm and never stopped sucking, eventually I pulled out and came all over her face.

Treat women the way you want to treat them and they will respond happily to a dominant hand.

Quote: (08-20-2013 12:05 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I'm a little confused. I've done some of this at a girls request, usually binding them up with their knees behind their ears, giving full access to the puss. Then an intense fucking ensued. The after was ruined by having to take all that shit off. I found it unsatisfying. I can do the same thing with my arms and body weight.

So the question is: Is it just a fetish, or are guys unable to dominate by the traditional sense and need the help of ropes and gags?

Do you really need tools in order to dominate a woman's mind and body?

What if you're abroad and didn't bring your BDSM kit?

"Dominating" and "making a girl yours" are important, but those should be basic principles that span our entire gameplan. As far as sex goes, it's more important to leave a lasting impression, especially if you're still in the honeymoon phase of dating a girl.

For example, if you're banging a virgin, obviously any sex she has is going to be mind blowing and will be a fond memory in her mind.

But, when you're banging girls who have had sex with many men, you need to step your sex game up in order to leave a lasting memory. I had one girl who although she had at least a double digit notch count, she had only had sex in a bed. The next time I saw her I made it a point to bang her out on her couch. The next few weeks, it's all she would talk about. She even started calling it the "sex couch."

Distant Light had a good post about girls rubbing their clits during sex. I have a few "bondage" items (handcuffs, nylon rope, candles) that I can use but at the end of the day...it's more of a different experience. There's a hierarchy of sex, and it's our duty as men to leave a lasting sex impression.

Red,

You need the gameset and the mind first THEN the tools.

Fuck her mind, sub her, use the tools of the trade on her.

Don't have tools, improvise.


You're right it's about the deepest impression you leave, fucking in new places is great.

One of my old plates, I banged out in a Denny's style diner, I didn't make her cum, and all she could do is say "I don't want to eat, lets fuck again"

I used deep sexting before a girl comes over, literally came over fucked her, cummed on her face, and sent her on her way, WITHOUT HER SAYING A WORD.

Finding out their sexual fantasies is a double edge sword so tread carefully, but always be the dominant player in bed.

Don't get me wrong. I'll tie a bitch up in a heartbeat.


But I have no interest in contraptions like these.

Quote: (07-14-2015 11:17 PM)blck Wrote:  

Really interseting thread

Ropes ain't my thing but I found this more intersting:

Really ? That looks like some fucking fun to me, I've never owned anything like that, but I'm always open to try new things !

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

You need the gameset and the mind first THEN the tools.

Did you just invent the word gameset?

Gameset (noun)
[geym-set]
1. Established or set attitudes towards sexual reproduction

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:55 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

You need the gameset and the mind first THEN the tools.

Did you just invent the word gameset?

Gameset (noun)
[geym-set]
1. Established or set attitudes towards sexual reproduction

Quote: (07-26-2015 04:31 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Finally trained a sub into not being able to cum from a vibrator unless my cock is in her mouth. She can edge all she wants at home, or in front of me, but she is no longer able to cum on her own. Today she was begging me to suck my cock while she was going to town on her clit.

After throating me she had an explosive orgasm and never stopped sucking, eventually I pulled out and came all over her face.

Treat women the way you want to treat them and they will respond happily to a dominant hand.

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:53 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Really ? That looks like some fucking fun to me, I've never owned anything like that, but I'm always open to try new things !

Spreader bars are amazing. Girls have super intense orgasms when they literally can't move and you have full access to do anything you want.

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:58 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:55 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2015 06:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

You need the gameset and the mind first THEN the tools.

Did you just invent the word gameset?

Gameset (noun)
[geym-set]
1. Established or set attitudes towards sexual reproduction

OK OK....despite my previous hating I'm coming back to this thread for advice.

Funny situation.

I didn't post about her much but I had a mini-LTR with a girl between April and June. Things ended after we had an argument one night...we still kept in touch but never met, until two weeks ago I tried to booty call her and she said "I don't want to hang out again. Sorry." I said "OK cool" and deleted her number.

She texted me a few days ago and said she wants to hang out but under one condition: that I come over during the day while her roommates are working and completely dominate her. Do whatever I want. Push her limits. Only rules were that she gets a safe word and I have to wear a condom.

Obviously I'm going to do it, but I want to use this as an opportunity to expand my arsenal. I've got the gameset, now I need the tools.

Items I'd like to buy:

• Collar
• Leash
• Butt plug
• Strong leather blindfold
• Restraints (so I can tie her feet without having to learn some BS knot?)
• Whip
  

So my questions for you pervs:

1. Best place to buy this stuff?
2. Do you tie girls up? If so what is the best or easiest way to do it?