Grandma Nancy weighs in. "Focused" she tells us about the protests.
Yeah, right...sure.
Yeah, right...sure.
Quote: (10-12-2011 04:47 PM)Roosh Wrote:
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Kanye West (net worth, $75 million) visits the protests in some very expensive threads
Well that convinced me that the Occupy movement is a total sham. I'm watching Glen Beck and Sean Hannity right now to deprogram myself.
Quote: (10-12-2011 05:42 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:
Occupy Wall Street Protester Wants College Paid For Because That's What He Wants
Quote: (10-13-2011 02:13 AM)blurb Wrote:
I often wonder just how serious these riots really are. People act like America has never had any flash, violent riots. Newsflash: Violent riots and uprisings are repeated throughout American history--Shay's Rebellion, the rebellion by Irish immigrants over the draft during the Civil War, the Rodney King L.A. riots, etc. This movement will fade into history just like the others. Nothing special. Keep moving along folks.
Quote: (10-13-2011 08:51 AM)Roosh Wrote:
Tenderman: I know you live in NYC... do you also work for the financial sector? You are vehemently against the Occupy protesters so I'm just curious if your lifestyle is at stake or if it's more ideological.
Quote: (10-13-2011 08:58 AM)Thorfinnsson Wrote:
Tenderman, screw free speech. Political free speech for corporate organizations without limit (remember, this is NOT just business) is the free speech of the bull horn. Yell the loudest, drown out the others.
Quote: (10-13-2011 09:48 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:The golden rule: he with the most gold makes the rules. When moneyed interests can use their money to strongly influence ideology and the public debate, the priorities of moneyed interests increasingly dominate society.
Screw free speech? Really? Wait till the feminist thought police come crashing onto this board.
Who gives a shit if corporations want to spend their money on political speech? The fact is they don't have to do any speaking because what they do today is hire expensive K street lobbyists who quietly write legislation that favor them. Be pissed off that that, not that they can run ads for some candidate. Because they are not going to do that. That's way too unsubtle.
I have zero problem with ANYBODY spending as much money as they want to talk about whatever the fuck they want to talk about. People are afraid of argument, and want to regulate, suppress it, monitor it. Fuck that.
Quote: (10-13-2011 09:48 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:I suspect that you, and others here, understand that the best argument doesn't always win. It's much more about how the argument is presented, how it squares with what the audience wants to believe (their wants themselves having being structured for them by culture, parents, media, etc.), and the perceived social status of the man presenting their argument. I have very little faith in rational public discourse, especially this day in age with our 24/7 garbage infotainment.
Let's hear what everybody has to say, and let the best argument win.
Of course, that is one of the key problems of the left. Political correctness. Watch what you say!! Don't be too harsh now.
Quote: (10-13-2011 10:11 AM)Thorfinnsson Wrote:
I find them a little better, just because the participants are older and have middle class sensibilities. But other than that, yes.
The Tea Party started out like OWS--a formless mob with the vague idea that something is very, very wrong with America. And being a formless mob is fine--that is how all mass movements start. But just as OWS is now degenerating into a panopoly of silly leftist demands, the Tea Party has been hijacked by beltway Republicans to use as a vehicle to push the same failed beltway Republican policies of the past generation.
Quote: (10-13-2011 10:11 AM)Thorfinnsson Wrote:
I find them a little better, just because the participants are older and have middle class sensibilities. But other than that, yes.
The Tea Party started out like OWS--a formless mob with the vague idea that something is very, very wrong with America. And being a formless mob is fine--that is how all mass movements start. But just as OWS is now degenerating into a panopoly of silly leftist demands, the Tea Party has been hijacked by beltway Republicans to use as a vehicle to push the same failed beltway Republican policies of the past generation.
Quote: (10-13-2011 09:37 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:
Quote: (10-13-2011 08:51 AM)Roosh Wrote:
Tenderman: I know you live in NYC... do you also work for the financial sector? You are vehemently against the Occupy protesters so I'm just curious if your lifestyle is at stake or if it's more ideological.
Look, the Democratic Party, and the left in general, are desperate for some kind of dynamic demonstration excitement to counter the Tea Party. They tried it in Wisconsin...that petered out. They're trying it now...this is going to peter out.