Bonus reading assignment on the early women's rights movement:

"The Bostonians" by Henry James (1885-86)

It remains one of the most brilliant and perceptive books ever written about "women's rights" and feminism, and you will see that in many ways, little has changed since the early days. In addition, you will learn the origin of the forum handle of one of the RVF's very best posters.

Quote: (05-10-2015 06:18 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Also, McCoy, how do you fix the problem of young women getting more attention than older women?

Obviously, this is inequality.

Should we, by law, force men to look at each woman in his line of sight for an equal amount of time?

Also, what about the fact that beautiful women get more attention from men than fat women their same age.

Should we force beautiful women to cut their face up to make them equal?

Do you see how equality is an impossible quest, which, is used by people to inflict pain and suffering on others for their own perceived victimhood?

Edit: if its a woman, boobs plz

Where are the facts and statistics to back up what you have said?

Quote: (05-10-2015 07:09 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

Actually, you could use the search feature and see that I've have already started many threads on this topic of women in America from 1848 to 1920:

The Roots Of Feminism In America

The Seneca Falls Convention: Understanding The Roots Of Entitled White Feminism

Prohibition In America: Women & Authoritarianism

The Gilded Age: “New Women,” Gibson Girls & The Rumblings Of Feminism

Ibsen's "A Doll House" & The False Assumptions Of Masculinity (A highly controversial play written around 1870 that is considered the most feminist work)

A Portrait Of The Naughty Flapper Girl Of The 1920's

Class is in session, bro

"..but as we have seen with modern women in the military, they simply want the accolades and honor, not any of the violent and fatal downsides. Also, understand how Mary Wollstonecraft’s own incredible personal disillusionment lead her to lay the groundwork for feminism. That is why American feminism is so psychologically sick – it’s roots are in a psychologically ill and suicidal female infatuated with her own hypergamy." That was from your thread

Not reading anymore of that filth.

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:58 PM)Onto Wrote:  

Feminism came about because women were dissatisfied with their role in life. It was boring to them and they lacked fulfillment.

They didn't know what the answer was to that eternal question,

"What is it about life there always seems to be something missing?" - Epictetus

They didn't know so they looked at the closest thing that was opposite of their own existence, Men.

Since a man's life was completely opposite of a woman's and a woman was miserable, he must have it good. He leaves the house, makes the money, makes the decisions. He has Power, and I do not. I want Power. That's the answer.

However, women didn't know that to be masculine in the world goes agains the grain of being feminine. To be masculine is to be a self-inteerested ego, to take action in the world, to fight with the others and win for yourself and your family.

All of this goes against the grain of being feminine which hails their should be no egotism/self-interest in the world. That we should all be the same, no one higher or lower, in status or wealth. The political manifestation of this feminine principle is Socialism/Communism. The opposite being Capitalism where one rises above the others based on merit (which is the much-hated-today masculine principle).

The term "Feminism" is a misnomer because it's all about being masculine in the world. Problem is women don't know the first thing about what it means to be a developed masculine because they are women. It's not unlike a cat trying to be a dog. There are even YouTube videos lauding such.

So we see women now running around like characters out of a "Kill Bill" or "Porky's" movie.

McCoy, that's where feminism came from. A self-interested desire to have Power for themselves, and that's all fine but don't make them out to be some kind of oppressed victim for the past 7,000 years.

Finally, women really do make the same as men in wages. In fact most human resource departments are run by women. If a woman isn't making the same as her co-worker it's because she hasn't had the "balls" to demand a raise. It's understandable she doesn't because she would then have to admit she really is a self-interested person (an ego) making demands on others for herself. That goes against the grain of the feminine principle (no egotism).

Female leaders know this which is why they try to pass legislation to force employers to give raises to women without them ever having to ask or switch jobs, etc. In other words, so they can enjoy the benefits that come with being masculine without actually having to be masculine.

You pulled that out of your ass; where are your sources?

Quote: (05-10-2015 06:03 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  



and so Mccoy's ban quest continues.

No, I actually like it here.

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:36 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Game isn't hating women, it's seeing through the smoke and mirrors.

The game isn't hating women? What game

Is there an easier way to reply to people's replies?

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:57 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:36 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Game isn't hating women, it's seeing through the smoke and mirrors.

The game isn't hating women? What game

Tell me madam, why do you think people here hate women?

You want statistics on why hot young girls get more attention than fat and old women? LOL OKAY!

I think it's his mom.

I wasn't stating "facts". I was asking you questions...which you didn't answer.


McCoy writes like my 11th grade English teacher.

"Also, what about the fact that beautiful women get more attention from men than fat women their same age."

This is a fact. In fact, there was recently a woman who evaluated her tinder profiles, one fat one, one less fat one, and the less fat one got 50% more attention.

Now answer my questions dear,

Should we, by law, force men to look at each woman in his line of sight for an equal amount of time?


Should we force beautiful women to cut their face up to make them equal?

Feminists don't want equality they want power, the problem is once you give someone something, they become entitled to it and and continue to want more and more, this is what we are seeing now. We would have done well not to have given them the power they have now in the first place.

Quote: (05-11-2015 03:19 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

I think it's his mom.

I wasn't stating "facts". I was asking you questions...which you didn't answer.


McCoy writes like my 11th grade English teacher.

"Also, what about the fact that beautiful women get more attention from men than fat women their same age."

This is a fact. In fact, there was recently a woman who evaluated her tinder profiles, one fat one, one less fat one, and the less fat one got 50% more attention.

Now answer my questions dear,

Should we, by law, force men to look at each woman in his line of sight for an equal amount of time?


Should we force beautiful women to cut their face up to make them equal?

I don't understand what you're trying to say but you sound mentally deranged.

Everyone has their own preferences to answer your question(s)

Quote: (05-11-2015 03:08 AM)Slim Shady Wrote:  

You want statistics on why hot young girls get more attention than fat and old women? LOL OKAY!

Everyone has their preferences like I told your friend. If you want to vain then by all means go right ahead. Just don't cry about it if someone acts the same way towards you

That's a very homophobic post by the way. How do you think that's going to make the bisexuals and homosexuals feel when they read that?

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:58 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:57 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:36 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Game isn't hating women, it's seeing through the smoke and mirrors.

The game isn't hating women? What game

Tell me madam, why do you think people here hate women?

You never answered my question, king of lizards

You said there are many things that need to be changed for women to be truly equal.

I pointed out that equality is an impossibility and trying to force equality, like cutting pretty women's faces to make them equal with uglier women, is a nasty and brutal way of living.

You, as someone who thinks that everyone should be forced to be equal, are essentially advocating violence against women.

You're a misogynist

lol

I think you will be banned or suspended, because this forum does NOT put up with people who advocate extreme violence against women.

There is NO PLACE in the Rooshv forum for people who advocate violence against women.

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:32 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I firmly believe that if you all understood what women went through to get where they are today you all would have a different opinion of women; albeit there are many things that need to change that haven't for women to truly be equal in today's society such as the wage issue.

I will be sharing an article with you today and what better day considering today is mother's day ! I hope everyone's opinions towards women here haven't effected their relationships with their mothers.

This segment will cover the time period from 1848-1920. There will be multiple segments and I will start off slowly so I don't bombard you with too much information

please be respectful as I have taken time out of my busy day to do this-thanks! If you disagree do so politely and please state why.

http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and...ns-Rights/

please copy the URL above, read the article, and discuss

I will be back later tonight to write about what I took from the article and what moved me.

wow that is a creepy smiley face!

I firmly believe that if you all understood what women went through to get where they are today you all would have a different opinion of women; albeit there are many things that need to change that haven't for women to truly be equal in today's society such as the wage issue.

Had women been equal to men on men's terms, no one would have to understand "what women went through" because they would have built half the society and engineered the laws and stood equal to begin with.

But the fact is that men and women are biologically different. Men birth societies. Women birth people.

Women didn't have a stake in the world men built because their biological role was different. They were already doing something equally as important if not more important: bringing to life actual humans. Only they can do this.

Shoehorning women into men's roles is actually demeaning to women, not empowering. It's also ruined our birthrate and decimated Western society. A society that doesn't value women's biological roles is a society on the decline. It's a shame women -- self-hating ones, anyway -- are doing this.

Claiming women are "unequal" and men are oppressors makes for a nice media soundbite, but it ignores the biological roles that stretch back to the dawn of time. Men were not oppressing. They were building. Women were not being oppressed. They were raising the next generation of humans.

Feminists act as if we always worked in offices and the world was always as it is now. It wasn't. Someone had to build it. Those people were men, and this is why they get the so-called spoils -- because they built the foundation. It's also why women get preferential treatment in family court: the children came from their bodies and say what you will, we all know this instinctively.

Modern women's continuous legal wrangling with men turned society into a huge divorce court, where they expect judges to mete them out various benefits "because equality."

While the concept of equality is an admirable one (and I am not arguing against paying women and men the same for the exact same work), the sexes cannot be equal. That's because they are different. Society's denial of this and the weird mechanisms put in place to attempt to make men and women "equal" is becoming our downfall.

Finally, we're all kidding ourselves anyway.

Men might build civilizations, but stronger men and/or Mother Nature can wreck them. We're all at the mercy of forces beyond our control to some degree.

If an army invades or there is a deep freeze or a hurricane, see how fast everyone shakes off the veneer of equality and reverts back to "gender norms," with men doing battle and women shielding the kids from the elements.

This properly describes McCoy's situation

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:50 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2015 07:09 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

Actually, you could use the search feature and see that I've have already started many threads on this topic of women in America from 1848 to 1920:

The Roots Of Feminism In America

The Seneca Falls Convention: Understanding The Roots Of Entitled White Feminism

Prohibition In America: Women & Authoritarianism

The Gilded Age: “New Women,” Gibson Girls & The Rumblings Of Feminism

Ibsen's "A Doll House" & The False Assumptions Of Masculinity (A highly controversial play written around 1870 that is considered the most feminist work)

A Portrait Of The Naughty Flapper Girl Of The 1920's

Class is in session, bro

"..but as we have seen with modern women in the military, they simply want the accolades and honor, not any of the violent and fatal downsides. Also, understand how Mary Wollstonecraft’s own incredible personal disillusionment lead her to lay the groundwork for feminism. That is why American feminism is so psychologically sick – it’s roots are in a psychologically ill and suicidal female infatuated with her own hypergamy." That was from your thread

Not reading anymore of that filth.

2wycked posts not one, not two, but six posts regarding the disillusioned beginnings of feminism. You grab one quote and then call all of it filth?

You have yet to formulate any argument outside of your original post beyond snarky one or two liner replies.

You sound like a woman.

This thread is not going in the direction you hoped for.

I call for another 7 day ban so you can spend that week thinking of better ways to argue your points.

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:32 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I firmly believe that if you all understood what women went through to get where they are today you all would have a different opinion of women; albeit there are many things that need to change that haven't for women to truly be equal in today's society such as the wage issue..... This segment will cover the time period from 1848-1920. There will be multiple segments and I will start off slowly so I don't bombard you with too much information....
http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and...ns-Rights/

please copy the URL above, read the article, and discuss.....

Unlike the others here I actually took the time to read your article, and the best response to that article has already been provided by a woman named Karen Straughan. I cannot do any better than she did.

Here is a good back and forth debate about historical feminism by female Karen Straughan on the liberal TYT networks. Very historical, very informative argument.

It is a youtube video, you can download it and listen to it or watch it whenever you want.

Fun fact: This Karen Straughan interview/debate is the most watched interview on the TYT news channel. TYT is the #1 online news channel in the world with billions of views.

The OP does not want a conversation, she wants an echo chamber.

I see no point to this debate, waste of time.

Quote: (05-10-2015 05:32 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

I firmly believe that if you all understood what women went through to get where they are today you all would have a different opinion of women; albeit there are many things that need to change that haven't for women to truly be equal in today's society such as the wage issue.

I will be sharing an article with you today and what better day considering today is mother's day ! I hope everyone's opinions towards women here haven't effected their relationships with their mothers.

This segment will cover the time period from 1848-1920. There will be multiple segments and I will start off slowly so I don't bombard you with too much information

please be respectful as I have taken time out of my busy day to do this-thanks! If you disagree do so politely and please state why.

http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and...ns-Rights/

please copy the URL above, read the article, and discuss

I will be back later tonight to write about what I took from the article and what moved me.


wow that is a creepy smiley face!

Read the stuff 2Wyked posted and keep studying more. If you really want to debate stuff like this, you are required to present alot more of an argument than this. The more details you flesh out of the position you are attempting to make, the more you will realize you are arguing from a losing position, but it is best to make you do the work first.

You are a college student. Get to work. Give me an outline. Opening argument, premise, facts to support premise, then conclusion.

Don't argue with grown ass men if you are not willing to write like one.

You are trying everyone's patience and it will be time for some tough love soon.

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:58 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Is there an easier way to reply to people's replies?

Yes there is, it goes something like this:

Quote:L M McCoy Wrote:

That's a very homophobic post by the way. How do you think that's going to make the bisexuals and homosexuals feel when they read that?

Quote:L M McCoy Wrote:

please be respectful as I have taken time out of my busy day to do this-thanks! If you disagree do so politely and please state why.

Quote:L M McCoy Wrote:

I don't understand what you're trying to say but you sound mentally deranged.

Everyone has their own preferences to answer your question(s)

Quote:L M McCoy Wrote:

You pulled that out of your ass; where are your sources?

Quote:L M McCoy Wrote:

Not reading anymore of that filth.

Your posts and replies are so contradictory that it looks like you are debating yourself if you read the above quotes in sequence.

OP wants polite disagreement and sources on her posts but replies with name calling and broad brush statements....

Quote: (05-11-2015 02:58 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

Is there an easier way to reply to people's replies?

Wouldn't you know that having over one thousand posts on the forum..