[Tuthmosis]

(02-01-2012 08:31 PM)snoop Wrote:  

maybe she is just embarassed to wear a cheap ring on her "commitment finger" around successful and well off people? That would also explain the behavior and unwillingness to explain it.

It actually just might just be that simple.

[snoop]

(02-02-2012 12:03 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 08:31 PM)snoop Wrote:  

maybe she is just embarassed to wear a cheap ring on her "commitment finger" around successful and well off people? That would also explain the behavior and unwillingness to explain it.

It actually just might just be that simple.

Considering the guy is broke and mooching off her, it isn't like this chick is with him for the money, power and status. She could just as easily dump him without all the hassle.

She might also just want them thinking she is single so someone else picks up the drink tab for a change.

[teh_skeeze]

You didn't catch her cheating. It's not like you came home and she was getting plowed by another guy. What you saw is something suspicious and got a suspicious reply.

How long have you been with this woman? Have you noticed a change in her attitude lately?

Allow me to tell you a story that could possibly shed some light.

I had a three year relationship that ended last April (3 days after my birthday, which she ruined). I had felt the end coming for some time, but I was addicted to her and my self identity was wrapped into her.

How did I know the end was coming? It was her attitude towards me. She started playing the power game and she was getting condescending towards me. She would go out and come home 3-6 hours later than when she said she would. Do I think that she cheated on me? It's possible, but I don't think so. What it was though was a direct challenge to my wishes. Sort of a "I'm going to blatantly disobey you and there's not a goddamn thing you're gonna do about it".

What you have to remember is people with wealth and power are some of the most petty people out there. If it is known that she is with someone that is not only cheap ($100 ring) and that she is the one supporting the relationship financially, they may hold that against her, and it could hurt her professionally.

Instead of focusing on what she's done with a ring (meaningless object) focus on her attitude towards you. Has it changed recently? If the answer is yes, then it's time to start making an exit plan.

[bengalltigerr]

(01-30-2012 12:05 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(01-30-2012 11:55 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(01-30-2012 11:50 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

I say dump her and get a new one...

I never understood why guys keep girls around to "keep a steady supply of pussy".....that just means you do not have enough options!! go get some options!!


Mixx

He has no options, because he has no money.

Although I'll always preach the virtues of game, having zero money is just as bad as having zero game. You gotta have SOME kind of cashflow...

AAAAHHH I missed the part where he was broke, my bad. True. True.

However, dignity has no price, dump her, and then since you're flat broke, start hitting on your female cousins like broke latinos do!


Mixx

I totally agree wuth Mixx and el mechanico! ditch that hoe and trash that ring!

[wolf]

(02-02-2012 04:36 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 12:03 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 08:31 PM)snoop Wrote:  

maybe she is just embarassed to wear a cheap ring on her "commitment finger" around successful and well off people? That would also explain the behavior and unwillingness to explain it.

It actually just might just be that simple.

Considering the guy is broke and mooching off her, it isn't like this chick is with him for the money, power and status. She could just as easily dump him without all the hassle.

She might also just want them thinking she is single so someone else picks up the drink tab for a change.

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

[TheAntiWhiteKnight138]

Quit this "if she leaves" talk

God, I see so much of my former self in this statement........If you KNOW that she may be straying, or even thinking of what else is out there, eventually she will. Don't give her the decision making process, muscle up, figure out what reality is and YOU act, not the other way around

[wolf]

(02-02-2012 08:51 PM)TheAntiWhiteKnight138 Wrote:  

Quit this "if she leaves" talk

God, I see so much of my former self in this statement........If you KNOW that she may be straying, or even thinking of what else is out there, eventually she will. Don't give her the decision making process, muscle up, figure out what reality is and YOU act, not the other way around

So the best decision would be to find something else and demote her in the rotation?

[Raoul]

You have oneitis. And you need to have real options so that you won't get fucked up in the head as you are now.

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

[wolf]

(02-02-2012 09:47 PM)Raoul Wrote:  

You have oneitis. And you need to have real options so that you won't get fucked up in the head as you are now.

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

I know. This oneitis comes from the scarcity mentality.

[mofo]

(02-02-2012 09:59 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:47 PM)Raoul Wrote:  

You have oneitis. And you need to have real options so that you won't get fucked up in the head as you are now.

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

I know. This oneitis comes from the scarcity mentality.

Oneitis comes from weakness and social conditioning/manipulation/brainwashing/bullshit.

[wolf]

(02-02-2012 10:49 PM)mofo Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:59 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:47 PM)Raoul Wrote:  

You have oneitis. And you need to have real options so that you won't get fucked up in the head as you are now.

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

I know. This oneitis comes from the scarcity mentality.

Oneitis comes from weakness and social conditioning/manipulation/brainwashing/bullshit.

I seriously doubt that can be erased in two years.

[snoop]

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 04:36 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 12:03 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 08:31 PM)snoop Wrote:  

maybe she is just embarassed to wear a cheap ring on her "commitment finger" around successful and well off people? That would also explain the behavior and unwillingness to explain it.

It actually just might just be that simple.

Considering the guy is broke and mooching off her, it isn't like this chick is with him for the money, power and status. She could just as easily dump him without all the hassle.

She might also just want them thinking she is single so someone else picks up the drink tab for a change.

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

From what you've said it sounds like she is choosing to be with you despite having several reasons that would make a lot of women dip, you might just be overreacting here on the cheating thing. Play it cool for a while and I think you can come out of this in good shape if she leaves or stays.

[TheAntiWhiteKnight138]

^^ Bad advice

OP, At the end of the day you need to decide whether or not this chick has her head on straight or not, you and YOU ONLY know whether or not this is the case, nobody can decide that for you.........With that being said the ring switch is suspect in my opinion. The key to having the upper hand in a relationship is to keep making decisions. Never hand over your balls to a woman and let her make the major decisions. Reacting to her decisions instead of making your own shows she wears the pants in this deal.

Good luck and keep us posted

[Samseau]

(02-02-2012 11:27 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 10:49 PM)mofo Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:59 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:47 PM)Raoul Wrote:  

You have oneitis. And you need to have real options so that you won't get fucked up in the head as you are now.

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

I know. This oneitis comes from the scarcity mentality.

Oneitis comes from weakness and social conditioning/manipulation/brainwashing/bullshit.

I seriously doubt that can be erased in two years.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

[snoop]

(02-03-2012 02:30 AM)TheAntiWhiteKnight138 Wrote:  

^^ Bad advice

OP, At the end of the day you need to decide whether or not this chick has her head on straight or not, you and YOU ONLY know whether or not this is the case, nobody can decide that for you.........With that being said the ring switch is suspect in my opinion. The key to having the upper hand in a relationship is to keep making decisions. Never hand over your balls to a woman and let her make the major decisions. Reacting to her decisions instead of making your own shows she wears the pants in this deal.

Good luck and keep us posted

That was my point, only he can make that decision. From the sounds of it he doesn't have a lot of other options, or even details on the situation...so how is playing it cool for a while, gathering more information about the situation before reacting, bad advice?

It doesn't sound to me like there is some dire need to react immediately on what to this point is nothing more than speculation.

[wolf]

(02-03-2012 02:30 AM)TheAntiWhiteKnight138 Wrote:  

^^ Bad advice

OP, At the end of the day you need to decide whether or not this chick has her head on straight or not, you and YOU ONLY know whether or not this is the case, nobody can decide that for you.........With that being said the ring switch is suspect in my opinion. The key to having the upper hand in a relationship is to keep making decisions. Never hand over your balls to a woman and let her make the major decisions. Reacting to her decisions instead of making your own shows she wears the pants in this deal.

Good luck and keep us posted

That's good advice. I've never seen good relationships where the woman makes the decisions. Even though I'm broke I still make the decisions. If she does something wrong I check her on it right away.

[Deluge]

(02-02-2012 11:27 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 10:49 PM)mofo Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:59 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 09:47 PM)Raoul Wrote:  

You have oneitis. And you need to have real options so that you won't get fucked up in the head as you are now.

(02-02-2012 08:33 PM)wolf Wrote:  

These guys do pick up her check. Whenever she goes out with the boss, he or his friends pick up the check.

If she leaves something else will come along. I got to focus on school work, paperwork for internship, finding a job, and etc. If she leaves it will give me more time to do this and by summer I'll have something going for me either way.

I know. This oneitis comes from the scarcity mentality.

Oneitis comes from weakness and social conditioning/manipulation/brainwashing/bullshit.

I seriously doubt that can be erased in two years.

No... Oneitis is actually biological. I read a study describing how men usually fall for the girl first, to signal that he is willing to commit. It's an evolutionary thing so that the female knows he'll stick around after the products of their relationship (the babies) come around. Remember this developed in the hundreds of thousands of years before reliable contraception.

If you assume every girl you meet is a slut until proven otherwise,at least if you do develop oneitis then it won't happen until after you've already gotten with her if that makes sense.

[soup]

All girls are your girl. She's not cheating on you, you just need to get better game. Better selection is #1, then everything else, better, that follows. Life is too short, so go for the best. Cool?

[InternationPlayboy]

(01-30-2012 02:36 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Simple:

1. Ask for your "promise ring" back (which you shouldn't have given her in the goddamn first place).

2. When says, "why?!" say because "it's obvious this isn't a two-way promise."

3. She'll try to explain herself and lie, but don't buy any of her shit. Tell her (even though you won't mean it) that she'll get it back "when she demonstrates that she's actually checked-in." Don't budge.

4. One of two things will happen: (1) she'll try to break it off (be like, "cool" and move on); or, more likely, (2) she'll grovel a bit and you will have won back control in the relationship. Get some promises from her and enjoy your fake make-up sex.

5. Keep her in the rotation but demote her big time.

6. Make cheating on her your number-one priority. Holler at bitches with impunity, night and day. Fuck one or more of them.

7. Dump original-girl nasty, even letting her catch you if you so choose.

8. Grow some nuts and don't go on handing out "promise rings" anymore--especially when you're broke as shit.

[Ronnie]

(01-30-2012 12:41 AM)wolf Wrote:  

Long story short she's been bugging me for a promise ring and I gave her one. Don't worry I didn't spend more than $100.

So today she goes out with her co-worker, boss, and boss's friends.

She has her ring on her left hand ring finger all time, and she came rushing home( I don't live with her) saying her phone died and she wanted to let me that she was okay and has to leave to go out with dinner with them.

I noticed that the ring was now on the opposite hand. I pointed this out to her and she left to go to dinner with her co-worker and those guys.

She comes back and I ask her if she takes the ring off at work? No.

I ask if she switches the ring onto another hand while at work? No.

Then I asked her why today she moved the ring if her co-worker and boss know she's with me and her boss and co-workers saw me before.

She said no reason. Then she got quiet and said nothing.

There is obviously a reason and I'm pretty sure that it has to do with the boss's friends.


Now here is my explanation why I haven't walked off. I just finished school and two weeks ago I took my last test for my license certification, so I will be certified to make some real money by this summer. But now I'm broke and no job. So no cash. I took Alihbaba's advice and shacked up with a 7 for the time being since I'm strapped for cash.

What would you do in my situation?

My advice would be: when in doubt, decide against her. She´s obviously trying to upgrade

[CJ]

(02-01-2012 11:31 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(01-31-2012 03:24 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(01-30-2012 04:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What the f*ck is a "promise ring" anyways?

I asked that same question once. Apparently, its one step short of an engagement ring. A gift as a token that you plan on proposing to her in the future.

I already think giving a woman an expensive engagement ring is the stupidest thing a man can do, but a promise ring?

One of my co-workers bought her daughter a promise ring, as in a promise to respect her body and so forth. That makes sense to me, and her daughter is probably more likely to think twice before breaking a promise to her mom than to some replaceable guy. Guys getting girls a promise ring always seemed stupid, but most guys are dumb.

[Tuthmosis]

@wolf: So what happened? Don't be another one of these guys that asks for advice, gets everyone all lathered up, and then never closes the loop. Feed the mouth that gives you advice.

[wolf]

(02-09-2012 06:32 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

@wolf: So what happened? Don't be another one of these guys that asks for advice, gets everyone all lathered up, and then never closes the loop. Feed the mouth that gives you advice.

I just asked her a bunch of questions, and she says that we're not married and she doesn't want to give the impression she's married. She said she switches the ring whenever she is going to meet people that she doesn't know.

I asked her if she switches the ring whenever she goes anywhere, she said no, she doesn't. She only switches when she doesn't know who she is going to meet.

The reason I tried to keep my mouth shut on here is because I'm going a different route to what most guys recommended. So the next question would be why would I ask for the advice then?

I hit a sticking point in my game, no matter how many girls I bring home I can't get past the LMR. I brought 4 girls home(excluding this girl) in the last month, I was not able to get past the LMR. So I shut my mouth with this one(what the thread is about), and keep fucking her till I figure out the LMR.

It's nice to tell her to fuck off and keep your dignity, but I don't have the skillset and money to get another bitch, other forum members do. My dryspell is not going to be 2 months, but more like a year.

[FretDancer]

LMR is pretty common man, it adds up to the numbers game. Just keep playing them and dating them, they oughtta put it out sooner or later, and if not, off they go.

[TheAntiWhiteKnight138]

(02-09-2012 07:21 PM)wolf Wrote:  

(02-09-2012 06:32 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

@wolf: So what happened? Don't be another one of these guys that asks for advice, gets everyone all lathered up, and then never closes the loop. Feed the mouth that gives you advice.

I just asked her a bunch of questions, and she says that we're not married and she doesn't want to give the impression she's married. She said she switches the ring whenever she is going to meet people that she doesn't know.

I asked her if she switches the ring whenever she goes anywhere, she said no, she doesn't. She only switches when she doesn't know who she is going to meet.

The reason I tried to keep my mouth shut on here is because I'm going a different route to what most guys recommended. So the next question would be why would I ask for the advice then?

I hit a sticking point in my game, no matter how many girls I bring home I can't get past the LMR. I brought 4 girls home(excluding this girl) in the last month, I was not able to get past the LMR. So I shut my mouth with this one(what the thread is about), and keep fucking her till I figure out the LMR.

It's nice to tell her to fuck off and keep your dignity, but I don't have the skillset and money to get another bitch, other forum members do. My dryspell is not going to be 2 months, but more like a year.

Oh dear lord........................good luck man, no offense, but you may need it