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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?
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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/a...>1=32092

Yes...this article was written by a woman, but recently Dr. Drew Pinsky was quoted as saying something similar. I don't see it. It seems to me that normal male behavior is being spun into a negative personality disorder. We've discussed in other threads how normal behavior in boys is also being treated similarly in schools. I guess it depends on the definition of narcissism.

Another issue growing out of this is the health of men. Statistics say married men live longer, but the reasons are never delved into in detail. I can assume that married men engage in less risky behaviors, because they are responsible for a family. Perhaps unhealthy habits are reduced. However, women still outlive men. While women seem to always be stressing about nonsense, men shoulder weighty burdens that produce REAL stress, which I believe shortens our lives...

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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

Men are narcissists, women are solipsists.

Even then, I don't see many male narcissists, but the majority, probably the vast majority, of young women today are solipsists. And with the whole girl power/self-esteem/being one of the guys trend in American culture, the number of female narcissists is probably catching up.

A solipsist is someone who knows no reality except her own. She thinks her life is impossibly hard, her problems unique, because she never notices what other people are going through. She can't see through the world through anyone's eyes but her own. If a man expresses to her the difficulties in say, finding a girlfriend, she will only see the positives of being a man, eg that he can initiate sex freely, and none of the negatives. She may not even acknowledge that - she'll think of all the guys that hit on her, and imagine it must be the same for him - if it isn't, he's a loser.
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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

I have really never understood what "narcissistic" really means.

I would call myself "narcissistic" but then I look at the symptoms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissisti...r#Symptoms

And I don't really have any of those.

Can anyone give any clarity?
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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

Quote: (01-29-2012 02:37 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I have really never understood what "narcissistic" really means.

I would call myself "narcissistic" but then I look at the symptoms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissisti...r#Symptoms

And I don't really have any of those.

Can anyone give any clarity?

If Wikipedia legitimately informs one of Narcissism and its accompaniments, you might first start at the page entry for "Narcissism" instead of "Narcissistic Personality Disorder."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism


NPD sounds like self-interest pushed beyond reason, as compared to, say, "Healthy Narcissism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_narcissism


I think it's quite natural to be Narcissistic, and so I embrace an idealogy of self-greatness. But I'm also an avowed hedonist, another "big word" concept that many would criticize.

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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

Men are more narcissistic because we have to be.

To be a successful man you have to work, hard. You have to stand back and look at yourself and judge yourself. You have to obsess about yourself because its the only way you'll make it ahead. If you just say "whatever" and assume you're where you should be you'll fall into the ranks of the average schlub.

You have to be arrogant and rep yourself because a lot of times no one else will. You have to spend hours starring at yourself to find what needs improvement and at the same time you must love yourself so you dont become depressed. I think controlled narcissism is what leads men to greatness.

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Quote: (01-29-2012 03:02 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

I think controlled narcissism is what leads men to greatness.

Yeah, obsessiveness works both ways however. I was just reading about the deadliest wars and wars involving Genghis Khan's empire killed something like 5-15% of the population of the whole world.

Alexander "The Great" used to massacre every living person in a city if the city didn't surrender.

So "greatness" comes in a lot of flavors, some of them not so "great."

I think Camille Paglia said the reason there's been no female Hitler is the same reason there's no female Beethoven.
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Quote: (01-29-2012 03:02 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Men are more narcissistic because we have to be.

To be a successful man you have to work, hard. You have to stand back and look at yourself and judge yourself. You have to obsess about yourself because its the only way you'll make it ahead. If you just say "whatever" and assume you're where you should be you'll fall into the ranks of the average schlub.

You have to be arrogant and rep yourself because a lot of times no one else will. You have to spend hours starring at yourself to find what needs improvement and at the same time you must love yourself so you dont become depressed. I think controlled narcissism is what leads men to greatness.

I imagine it's a form of narcissism that allows you to compete and succeed, but there's another form that only seeks attention for attention's sake. For popularity. For love and admiration, just because. Self-examination for the sake of improvement or to achieve a goal is different from simple attention-whoring.

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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

I'd say on the upper-end that yes, men are more narcissistic than women (in the vanity and self-worshipping sense of the term). As some have been said, men also stand to benefit more from being narcissistic than women do; narcissism is analogous to confidence, and a man needs to be confident to succeed.

But that's just the upper end; across the board and as an average, the average woman is more narcissistic than the average man. Even just an average woman is far, far, far more egocentric ('The world revolves around me!', 'I am a special little snowflake!') than the most high-outlying man.
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Are Men More Narcissistic Than Women?

A lot of psys disagree over the definition of narcissism.

The definition that makes the most sense is: persona > self.

Narcissists don't have a sense of self. They constantly seek validation. They need other people's attention in order to exist.

You see a lot of that form of narcissism on the message boards.

How many times do guys ask questions that have been asked many times before?

Why not run a search?

NONE of those other threads mattered, because the narcissist wasn't at the center of those threads.

A narcissist is thus a child:

"As a paradigm, the narcissist is the first born (or only) child, aged 2-3. Everything is about him, and everything is binary. His, or not his. Satisfied, or not satisfied. Hungry, or not hungry. Mom and Dad are talking to each other and not me? "Hello! Focus on me!" Youngest children don't typicaly become narcissists because from the moment of their birth, they know there are other characters in the movie. (Youngest more easily becomes borderline.) Control, of course, is important to a narcissist. If you can imagine a 40 year old man with the ego of a 2 year old, you've got a narcissist."

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/12/i...xiest.html
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I'd say the most narcissistic of men are comparable to just an average woman.

The article is bullshit.

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Narcissism is up there with "creepy," "pedophile," and "date rape" as some of the most abused buzz terms by women and beta white-knights. They're used to shame and constrain male behavior.

I agree with @chad on this one: men need to be narcissists. If I'm not pumping up my own swagger constantly, nothing good happens.

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Narcissism is good for your game: http://littlepdog.com/2012/01/28/on-narcissism/

Checkout the study at the bottom.
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