Taipei, Taiwan
01-09-2013, 02:56 AM
Depends on the city, language skills, looks, dress and confidence.
Ill give it a shot....
1. It is very hard to meet people, as they are not open with strangers but very closed in nature. Social interaction is usually restricted within closed exclusive cliques. - [b]TRUE, but people are very friendly and will help you. Case in point, was lost walking down a street. Some dude on a motorcycle stopped and tried to help me. Compared to Thailand, I would say the people are slightly less friendly initially, but very friendly after the first 1-2 minutes. No ladyboys, hookers or dirty beggars either.
2. The only appropriate way to meet people is to be introduced through friends or groups, or have a connecting routine such as school, work or organized activity. FALSE- Clubs/bars/streets/restaurants/streetfood/MRT are all places to meet girls. Easy of pick-up is better than China worse than Thailand. Overall girl quality is better than both though (IMO). But daytime, it can be quite tough day-gaming
3. Young adults in Taiwan are painfully shy, insecure, nonassertive, and lack confidence and social skills (especially females)- TRUE- Girls are submissive and respect men. Girls will never openly reject you. They will save face and continue to talk to you even if they have a BF. They will excuse themselves and minimize a scene. Pretty weird coming from the States Nightlife. Dudes are very friendly and would probably be lumped into the BETA category. They are very friendly for the most part. Abudance mentality, maybe?
4. If you like meeting girls, or are seeking a date or girlfriend, there are a multitude of major obstacles against you.--FALSE
a) First, Taiwanese females simply do not like being introduced to male strangers (unless they are desperate, but if that's the case, then they are likely older and/or unattractive). Instead, they prefer to meet guys through the clique of friends that they grew up with, or the clique at their school or work. So if you didn't grow up in their "circle", then you are pretty much "out". And if you are "out", the bad news, as you might have guessed, is that their "cliques" are NOT inclusive at all. ---FALSE, taiwanese people are very friendly and interested in foreigners and where they come from
b) Second, Taiwanese people are reluctant to introduce females for some reason, probably because their females are not comfortable with it (or they are too picky). Although Taiwanese often like to joke about introducing a single female to a single male, they rarely follow through with it. In this regard, they are "all talk and no action". However, even if you are introduced to a female, suffice to say, females who need to be "introduced" tend to not be attractive or even fun to hang out with. TRUE- all action depends on the dude. If you like a girl, you go up and say hi to her. Proximity, smile, and #-close. Not much different than thailand. Clubs/making out is a bit more liberal when drinking, due to minimal prostitution.
c) Third, Taiwanese young females are not very open or relaxed at all. They are uptight, stiff and closed, as well as painfully shy. And they are also very insecure, fearful and lack confidence. Thus they are not even comfortable with meeting guys. Such traits are huge obstacles to single heterosexual males no doubt, but unfortunately, these are the usual traits of Taiwanese females. There is even a social rule in Taiwan that "girls don't talk to strangers, especially male strangers". ---TRUE, thats why you introduce yourself. Say that you are visiting from XXX. Ask them if they are students. Where are they going? Become a friend. Bonding 101...
d) Fourth, to make matters worse, modern Taiwanese females have difficult personalities and many hang ups. They will drop a guy for the smallest things at the drop of a hat. They are very judgmental, cold, unromantic, and act like flaky divas. Materialism has corrupted and spoiled them, making them more and more like American girls now. Deep down, they are childish and have terrible communication skills. Older generation Taiwanese often complain that young girls mumble and speak too fast, and are hard to understand. ---TRUE, but the taiwanese girls are very feminine. If you are a broke dude with no fund, goodbye. Status/Money and Class are interchangeable iin Asia. Girls need it for face... to show their friends and family. Not quite as bad as Western Girls tho.
e) Fifth, to make things worse, in the few nightclubs and discos that exist in Taiwan, guys always outnumber girls. Every girl is with a closed group of friends, male date, or "Jimmy" which is a male friend in her clique that shields her from outside strangers. This of course, pits the numerical odds against you. As in the US, there are many guys competing for a few girls. But these girls are not even open to talking strangers, as already mentioned. ---TRUE, thats why you go in the beginning of the night and lock down girls when dudes are sober and not grinding/annoying every hot girl. Hot girl's attention has limited timespan. Come on people, its not a grocery store! Things in demand fly off the shelves quickly
Moreover, even if you do find a partner in Taiwan, still, your options are limited in that you are essentially "taking what you can get" (aka "settling") rather than having a wide array of choices. Unless of course, you have low standards. ---BULLSHIT, unless you have no game, no looks, and no language. If you have one of the 3, its doable.
Now, this might sound bad, but it's true: Taiwanese females don't become open and friendly with strangers until they reach middle age (OR the age of 21 years old when they can go nightclubbing) - at which time they are no longer desirable and are most likely taken as well.(FALSE- they age 10x better than Asian-American girls or white/latin girls)
This is a classic case of Murphy's Law: When they are young and desirable, they are not open or friendly with strangers and not easy to meet at all. But when they are no longer young or desirable (and either taken or desperate if not) then they start to become friendly and more sociable with strangers. I know that might sound bad, but it's true. (If that offends anyone, then I apologize. No offense was intended. But please remember, I didn't make things the way they are. So please don't blame the messenger.)
5. The Taiwanese psyche is completely dominated by FEAR and GUILT. As a result of abusive psychological conditioning, Taiwanese emotions are suppressed and internalized. They are taught not to express themselves, but to be humble, submissive and obedient. ---TRUE, family unit is valued above individual. Kids are in school till 5pm, then go to tutoring till 8pm. Its like this in Japan too. Its a highly competitive society w/a heavy emphasis on family and work.
Deep down, they live in perpetual fear and worry about every little thing. While caution is a good thing, they overdo it and take it to the extreme, imagining the worst in every scenario even when it's unwarranted. As a result, they never truly live. You can feel the "fear vibe" of the Taiwanese masses when you are in their proximity. They also harbor constant guilt about not measuring up or not being "good enough". None of this is conducive to a "friendly and open" social atmosphere of course. ---TRUE, you would too if you lived next to Communist China proclaiming that Taiwan is part of China. Also family pressure to perform well in school, marry, find a good guy to have kids with is immense. This is less relevant in big cities
What you should know is that if you are in Taiwan long term, eventually the "fear energy" of the people will rub off on you and affect you negatively as well. Even if you are a person who does not believe in living in fear, like a hippie or New Ager, it will still eventually affect you, especially since you are eating their food, which is produced from "fear consciousness". (Remember that the thoughts, emotions and energy of the person preparing your food goes into the food as well.) ---TRUE, but its more like FML, why am I not working harder. I should be making more moneyssss!
This is a downside of Taiwan that is rarely mentioned, if ever, because people are in denial about it and are not conditioned to look deeper. Instead, they are conditioned to only care about working and raising a family, and other practical matters on the surface. ----CASE IN POINT!!!!!
6. Taiwan is a strict business-oriented and workaholic society which teaches that the only things that matter are making money and food. Personal happiness and feelings are seen as irrelevant and worthless. All that matters is work, productivity and conformity. People are conditioned to be stiff, repressed, and act like cold zombies without soul, heart or emotion. It's very sad and makes them almost inhuman and robotic-like. There is no free expression or creativity or thinking for yourself. It's all about conformity. The individual is nothing. The only "passion" one is allowed to have is passion for work and productivity (no surprise there). ----TRUE, but they like to drink too, and go traveling, if money allows, around the world to let loose
That's why it goes without saying that Taiwan is not a very fun place, since none of this is conducive to "fun" at all. Though the concept of "fun" is relative, the kind of fun I'm talking about is the highly festive free-spirited free-flowing heartfelt type of fun that exists in much of Europe, Mexico, Latin America, Russia, Philippines and Thailand. (If you've been there, you'll know what I mean) The fact is, Taiwanese are extremely uptight. They do not radiate warmth or emotion. Even when they are trying to have fun, you will never see them truly "let loose".
Also, Taiwan is not a place for one who values personal happiness either, since that doesn't even matter in Taiwanese culture. Besides, how can you be happy around people who are extremely cold and uptight and dominated by fear? I find it hard to relax or be myself around such people. Eventually, their vibes will affect you as well. ---this is more the case of Communist China than Taiwan. Beijing used to have that grimy communist feel. They really spruced it up for Olympics. Go outside big cities and its depressing.
Want to have a feel for Old China, go to Tianamen Square. Its all concrete and somebody got run over by a TANK!!!! how is that not more depressing!
Further, such a repressed workaholic culture will also not provide venues for you to pursue your "happiness", unless of course your happiness is derived from living a monotonous workaholic lifestyle with little interest in much else. ----Make money, f-ck bitches, living at 40% price of the western world/europe
In Taiwan, practically everyone is a conformist. Thus, they will conform to the workaholic culture with very little else to live for. How can that possibly be conducive to happiness? It can't. Trying to find an nonconformist in Taiwan is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Even if they exist, they will be silent and alienated, or they will leave the country. Finding an "outspoken nonconformist and freethinker" is a near impossibility. (Not to brag, but I seem to be the only one) ---Face, my friend. Its all about face in Asia. In private, people open up.
7. Taiwan is a very prudish and conservative culture in the extreme. No public display of affection is allowed, such as kissing between couples. And TV soap operas and dramas that are produced in Taiwan almost never show people kissing or showing any physical affection. ---TRUE, daytime PDA is minimal. Nightime in clubs, all bets are off. Alcohol has a liberating effect.
Flirting is a big taboo in Taiwan. It is considered dirty creepy behavior. Taiwanese females do not flirt back with males. They do not allow gentlemen to kiss their hand, like women in Europe do. ---EWW I am not kissing some broad's hands. She probably was plowing a potato field or something. And they do not greet people with kisses on both cheeks, like European females do.---Um cultural differences, my friend On the flip side, a Taiwanese American girl in Taipei wrote me once and told me that when she tries to flirt with Taiwanese guys, they do not reciprocate but instead get weirded out. ---Yea, Taiwanese dudes are beta-max.
Obviously, none of this is conducive to romance, love or passion. I don't even need to tell you that. In fact, if you observe Taiwanese couples, you will notice that they even act cold and uptight around each other. They do not appear "in love" or romantic, and they often eat together in silence with very little to say to each other. What this means is that even if you are in a relationship with a Taiwanese, it is likely to be dull and cold, devoid of warmth, romance or passion.
8. Taiwanese people have extremely COLD and UPTIGHT body language, demeanor and expression. I don't know about you, but I find it very hard to relax, be happy or even be myself around people who look so uptight and anal. It kind of "rubs me the wrong way" is how I would put it. I guess if you are cold and uptight yourself, you may not see anything wrong with it, since they are the same as you. But if you are not, then it can be very awkward to be around people who are, especially if you come from a culture where people are not like that at all. The point here is that being constantly surrounded by very cold uptight people is obviously not conducive to happiness, fun or relaxation at all. ---Face!
9. The frequent reckless, dangerous and rude driving on Taiwan's streets and roads is stressful and annoying to deal with. Taiwanese cities, even the small ones, are way too cramped and packed with too many scooters and vehicles. Driving is not an enjoyable experience in Taiwan, but a stressful one that can cause tempers to flare. It is also hard to park if you are driving a car. And if you are driving a scooter, then you are taking chances with your life because scooter accidents can be fatal. None of this is conducive to happiness, peace or relaxation. ---Mongolia is worse. Thailand is worse, Russia is worse, Italy is worse.
10. On top of all this, Taiwan is not even an interesting place or culture.---WHAT!!!! Taiwan is the bastion of Chinese culture and art. Mao Ze Dong destroyed most of the cultural accomplishment of Pre-Communist China. Chiang-Kai-Shek ran away w/gold, art, and the intellegentsia. sigh, maybe if you live on the countryside in Taiwan w/nothing but mangos and chickens. Taipei is a beautiful city w/lots of free musuems and tons of stuff to do and lots and lots of students. =).
WIA- For most of men, our time being masters of our own fate, kings in our own castles is short. Even those of us in the game will eventually succumb to ease of servitude rather than deal with the malaise of solitude