[Swordfish1010]

(05-04-2019 08:52 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(05-04-2019 12:59 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Most millennials can't articulate HOW boomers screwed them over, so they're incapable of fixing it anyways. Or the reasons why 1950-1990 America had a higher quality of life for normal citizens.

Social Security.

I'm not a millennial. But we are all fucked by the retiring boomers. We have a right to be annoyed with boomers. We are paying for their retirement and are not going to get any social security. How is this not a scam?

Buy bitcoin.

[Swordfish1010]

(05-04-2019 09:26 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

Nice bait OP. Older millennial here (36).

The boomers are generally nice people but it can't be denied that their generation has set the precedent in a way that have benefited them at the expense of their children and grandchildren.

Take for example, entitlements like social security. They are the top of the pyramid in this literal Ponzi scheme. They get theirs and their children and grandchildren have to pay for it. Since there aren't enough children being produced they use mass immigration to keep the scam going. Boomers win and the rest of us are holding the bag with the time bomb.

Student loans for all. Use government backed bank loans to give everyone a college experience and undercut and destroy the value of a degree and saddle them with a mortgage sized debt to pay that can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Boomers didn't even need college for a high paying job but millennials need it to sling coffee while paying off their 6 figure student loans while sharing an apartment.

Housing bubble. This is similar to the student loan bubble where the banks did everything in their power to lend insane levels of debt to people. The consequence was higher and higher house prices since people were able to borrow more money. Housing became something to speculate on rather than a place to live in. Since the mid 2000's homes are unaffordable to most millennials and they now live with their parents or live in house shares with other people. The boomers solo bought their homes for 10's of thousands of dollars only working 2-3 years to pay off the house while the millennials are looking at 30 year mortgages to pay for their 7 figure house with a combine income. It amazes me that nobody is aware of this.

No fault divorce. Welfare state. Housing bubble. Bank bailouts. Mass immigration. There's a long list of crimes against humanity and I've only listed something like 10% of it. The basic premise is that boomers ascended after the rubble of the war and proceeded to burn the ladder for the rest of us.

Boomers practices ought to be resented but luckily for them the vast majority of millennials are too ignorant or too stupid to figure out the many ways their have been fleeced and, worse yet, perpetuate the same boomer scams into the future intact with all but a few minor tweaks instead of just overhauling the entire system. A good example of this is student loans. The average millennial now understands the government backed student loan system has ended in disaster. Anyone with a pulse knows that 1-200k+ loan debt for a basket weaving degree is clown world. Instead of talking about getting government out of the equation or making the loans dischargeable in bankruptcy they opt for keeping everything the same but focusing their efforts on getting concessions on the payments so their loans don't go into default. They fight for income based repayments and paying small percentages from their salary after it reaches a certain threshold like 50k/ year. That's millennial innovation folks! Keep the same same broken system that makes everyone slaves but instead focus on slave rights.

"You didn't want freedom, you just wanted a nicer plantation."

[BortimusPrime]

Really when you think about it older people blaming a younger generation for being inadequate is just damning themselves. Everyone whose kid turns out to be a piece of shit desperately wants to insist they just did the best they could and it's totally not their fault, and everyone goes along with it out of politeness. Interview the mothers of every single spree killer in the last decade, I guarantee you'll hear the exact same story about how they were a good parent and it was only as a teenager or adult when they didn't have any more control over little Billy (and thus no longer at risk for blame) that he inexplicably went cuckoo and started collecting guns. Probably those evil video games and internet forums.

The failure to thrive of the millennial generation results in this same self-defensive delusional behavior on a population scale. According to all those 1960s montages scored with Fortunate Son we're expected to believe that the baby boomers were all wonderful peace-loving good people, the first generation in American History to care about moral goods like ethnic food and giving blacks their freedoms. Even when they all got divorced the movies showed us how it was always for a good reason and the children were better off for it. But despite them being perfect, they raised horrible children that don't care about important things like woodstock and just play those damn computer games! It's those damn computer games, why can't they spend their evenings watching the nice mulatto man on the news talk about how low the unemployment rate is now that everyone ran out of money for grad school and had to become a barista?

[Deusleveult]

These generation's conflicts are non-sense. It's just another way for the elite to divide people.

Truth is life is a cycle, it's in perpetual movement. With every generation there is a new movement, like an undercurrent, invisible but palpable in the behaviour of the people born in it.

Also the majority of people of every generations are followers.

There's just a few people who can take a seat back and think "wait a minute, i don't want to be the product of my environment, I want to do what I AM meant to do, not do like everybody else" and carve their own path in life.

And even with that you will still have some characeristics of your generation, good and bad.

With that said you can't really blame people on a generational level because they didn't have a fucking clue, they just followed what was happening at that time, what everybody else was doing and thinking.

[VNvet]

Left wing millennials were born in a shit situation.

Boomers had a good situation and gave it all away.

Really though, left wing millennials view the boomers as too conservative. Just think the Fox News watching Evangelical Boomer stereotype.

That's the type of boomer that they hate.

[nomadbrah]

(05-04-2019 01:12 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Because they are literally the same as Boomers.

Weinberg and Rubin.

You can't make this shit up, cause it's true.

Just saying.

Don't blame the boomer for falling prey to the parasites, but blame them for not wising up. Everyone gets a second chance at redemption, but you must show you repent.

[Paracelsus]

(05-04-2019 12:00 PM)partyfowl Wrote:  

I am fascinated by generations and how different generations react to different generations. I'm no overt boomer fan but they will win me over any millennial. I say this because while the boomers did start stuff, millennials could've righted the wrongs but instead they leaned into them. Plus look at what millennials have that a lot of boomers didn't, boomers didn't have birth control until late 60s or so and abortions until the early 70s. Literally EVERY millennial has had access to abortion. While millennials are on average poorer than their parents. Plenty of millennials are pulling in 6 figures literally playing video games (and yet they still refuse to have kids). I don't know why millennials will be like boomers if they hated them that much

What are your thoughts on this phenomena?

Most significant bit:

"Plenty of millennials are pulling in 6 figures literally playing video games (and yet they still refuse to have kids)."

Find me one hundred millenials who fit this criterion.
Go on, I'll wait. And once you've got that, show me proof that they're actually earning that figure as opposed to renting a lifestyle that looks like $100,000 per year. And then have a look at whether that person actually has the sort of security of income or sufficient time to actually find a chick, fuck her, marry her, make a home, and then be home to raise the kids they're "refusing" to have.

More generally Before any Boomer or Gen Xer can start criticising the behaviour or politics of a millennial, this question must always be asked first: who were those millennials raised by, and who set up the world those millennials entered?

[VNvet]

(05-04-2019 12:00 PM)partyfowl Wrote:  

I am fascinated by generations and how different generations react to different generations. I'm no overt boomer fan but they will win me over any millennial. I say this because while the boomers did start stuff, millennials could've righted the wrongs but instead they leaned into them. Plus look at what millennials have that a lot of boomers didn't, boomers didn't have birth control until late 60s or so and abortions until the early 70s. Literally EVERY millennial has had access to abortion. While millennials are on average poorer than their parents. Plenty of millennials are pulling in 6 figures literally playing video games (and yet they still refuse to have kids). I don't know why millennials will be like boomers if they hated them that much

What are your thoughts on this phenomena?

Boomers were born into the most prosperous empire of all time. Almost 200 years of accumulated wealth and knowledge. They completely fucked it up. Their children being poorer than they are is the proof of this.

Here's a common example: My grandpa bought 5 acres of land, built a house by himself, and supported 4 kids + wife... on an entry level blue collar salary before he turned 30. That was only ~50 years ago. Could you imagine a millennial doing that in 2019?

It's impossible. Don't forget, most boomers don't want their children to go into the trades - the remaining trades that haven't been completely swarmed by boomers hiring cheap immigrant labor. Thanks for that boomers.

Millennials with money aren't getting married because of the shitty divorce laws. They also saw their boomer parents get divorced and breakup the family.

I also don't see why millennials should be expected to right the wrongs of their parents. That's now how things are supposed to work. Literally every generation in human history has passed on the accumulated wealth and knowledge to the subsequent generation.

Boomers pissed it all away for selfish reasons - drugs, free sex, and retirement. Now their children are just floating around. They use clowns like Jordan Peterson as a surrogate father figure because boomer dad didn't teach anything. Jordan Peterson figures didn't even exist 50 years ago because everyone had a dad and a community.

My generation - millennials - are probably fucked beyond redemption. You can't realistically expect one generation to rebuild the most prosperous empire in human history. Not going to happen with Jews in charge. Every generation before boomers could call out the J, but we can't even do that in current year. Thanks for that boomers.

[BlueMark]

(05-05-2019 07:45 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Most significant bit:

"Plenty of millennials are pulling in 6 figures literally playing video games (and yet they still refuse to have kids)."

Find me one hundred millenials who fit this criterion.
Go on, I'll wait. And once you've got that, show me proof that they're actually earning that figure as opposed to renting a lifestyle that looks like $100,000 per year. And then have a look at whether that person actually has the sort of security of income or sufficient time to actually find a chick, fuck her, marry her, make a home, and then be home to raise the kids they're "refusing" to have.

I can find plenty of millennials who make six figures and play video games. They exist in expensive blue state cities, in industries like finance, technology, and law.

The vast majority of them end up marrying. But these marriages are often DINK (double income no kids) power couples. Not a lot of traditional values exist in this demographic. Lots of careerism and feminism.

[Manbeline]

I am still reeling from the effects of what college did to me. Being one of the younger folks on this board, I can tell you that I saw a lot of people getting debt and having to work a lot just to stay in school, and then when either dropping out or graduating, would refuse to have kids due to having debt and not being able to get a cushy high paying job. The only people I know who have families, surprising enough, are the guys who were in my field and made out with high salaries at esteemed companies.

I concluded that money = family. And european, lighter skinned people tend to go the family route when they have a financial safety hold. Unfortunately, during their oppressive years of anguish at their situation, they turn to feminism, liberalism, and other forms of degeneracy as a way to cope. And assuming they do get out of their debt, they are left so ridden that they become someone else who cannot recover from their mental state. They become as lost as they were before and end up producing no family or community in the end that will thrive and produce.

Latinos are big on family because their culture instilled it. The chinese have the same philosophy. African americans use to have big family due to religion instilling those values from european christians, but after the jim crow laws and civil rights decimated the african american family, they breed only because they have been reduced to their most basic instincts by poverty and advantage taking. I say this out of sympathy because african americans are one of the most ravaged cultures I've ever seen in a generation. Most would blame the europeans for this, but they have no idea who really did it.

So it is all a combination of ignorance from millennials and an evil game going on from people in the shadows. So don't hate them too much. There's some good ones that are growing up with the right mindset, as you can tell by young Trump supporters. Although I currently do not like the direction european christians are going due to subversion by Israel, it is a least a better direction than the degeneracy route. But then when you realize who created that degeneracy in the first place, both sides are being played by the same (((people))).

[partyfowl]

(05-05-2019 10:35 AM)BlueMark Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 07:45 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Most significant bit:

"Plenty of millennials are pulling in 6 figures literally playing video games (and yet they still refuse to have kids)."

Find me one hundred millenials who fit this criterion.
Go on, I'll wait. And once you've got that, show me proof that they're actually earning that figure as opposed to renting a lifestyle that looks like $100,000 per year. And then have a look at whether that person actually has the sort of security of income or sufficient time to actually find a chick, fuck her, marry her, make a home, and then be home to raise the kids they're "refusing" to have.

I can find plenty of millennials who make six figures and play video games. They exist in expensive blue state cities, in industries like finance, technology, and law.

The vast majority of them end up marrying. But these marriages are often DINK (double income no kids) power couples. Not a lot of traditional values exist in this demographic. Lots of careerism and feminism.

True, so many marriages are that, too much IMO.

[Swordfish1010]

I went to college during the 08 crisis and something that shocked me was how little everyone seemed to care that the world was burning around us and they were still living large on student loans to study something that clearly was not going to get hem a job. I was a stem major that busted my ass and lived cheaply. Every story has two sides to it... they got owned yes but they should have known better.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

(05-04-2019 08:52 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(05-04-2019 12:59 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Most millennials can't articulate HOW boomers screwed them over, so they're incapable of fixing it anyways. Or the reasons why 1950-1990 America had a higher quality of life for normal citizens.

Social Security.

I'm not a millennial. But we are all fucked by the retiring boomers. We have a right to be annoyed with boomers. We are paying for their retirement and are not going to get any social security. How is this not a scam?

This doesn't get the attention it deserves. Millenials are getting raped financially - someone making $50K a year is going to end up paying over 115K over the course of their life...and then when they're old and shitting their pants the system will most likely have collapsed. I think it's fucked up and we should have the option to opt out. It's fucked how much we are taxed in general. We are literally tax cattle for the elite. Not sure which gets me more heated, circumcision or taxes

[MrLemon]

(05-05-2019 05:44 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  

We are literally tax cattle for the elite.

I've been looking for a zingy description. "Debt slave" sounds too whiny. "Tax Cattle" is much better. Thank you.

[Duke Main]

We are all "moist robots," a term coined by Scott Adams, and we were born into circumstances outside our control. It's pointless to shit on someone for being born in 1955 vs 1995. The world is controlled by the elite and the rest of us do the best we can with the information in front of us. From my perspective, most of the macro problems we're facing today can be laid at the feet of the bankers and politicians who started the fed, and who perpetuate the system today. I might be wrong. Maybe I'm just defensive because I'm technically a boomer, albeit tail end; I feel more like a gen Xer. Either way, it's not really my fault the economy is fucked up and people take out student loans to get art history degrees.

When you millennials take the reins of power I fully endorse defaulting on the debt previous generations have racked up. you shouldn't have to pay it and I don't blame you for being a bit salty about it.

[king bast]

Everyone knows the stereotypes of boomers and millennials, but why does Gen X get a pass? Are we the gamma generation, who love to pick fault with the generation before and after us, but have a massive blindspot to all of our own flaws?

[911]

We're a smaller cohort, a lot less influential culturally and politically, and not as "wild" and prone to excess as Boomers, more centrists than anything else, as a reaction to the excesses of Boomer parents, whereas Boomers are split into war-loving, free trade ideologue BoomerCons and anti-Christian cultural marxist ex-hippies.

We grew up in the 70s and 80s, mostly times of economic contraction and scarcity, as opposed to the opulent post-war boom where people had the lattitude to navel gaze and try out new shiny cultural ideas and indulge into their sex-drugs-rock&roll hedonistic utopia larping as revolution against "the man".

[for.petes.sake]

In terms of progressive and economic polices boomers and left-wing millennials are very different. A lot of left wing millennials say that boomer's choices have screwed over millennials but millennials keep choosing to be screwed over.

Here is a vice video of a guy complaining about high rent prices and how to stop it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xKz5AcuXE

His solution, rent control. Basically severely regulate rent prices. He gives an example of a rent controlled house where the prices have not gone up since the 70s. Never mind the fact this will severely hurt landlords because inflation, demand, and upkeep (because services will increase with inflation). He then states:

"but naturally anything that helps out actual people and takes money out of some rich assholes pockets is going to face a lot of opposition. Critics of URC have said policies like these will disincentive landlords from or staying on top of building upkeep. They've also said it disincentives further real estate development which to me people not wanting to gentrify your neighborhood"

When he was met with valid arguments against UCR his retort was that those are invalid since they would be promoting "gentrification".

Rent is high because of supply and demand. On the supply side we have too many stupid regulation preventing development. Even when they are met if development hurts someones feelings then it can still get shut down (here is a video showing how development gets stopped in San Francisco because of gentrification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgxwKnH8y4)

On the demand side, stupid progressive polices like mass immigration has brought in thousands of people who are now competing for these housing units. Yet the millennial blames the economics and not his own stupid progressive ways.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(05-05-2019 09:00 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  

In terms of progressive and economic polices boomers and left-wing millennials are very different. A lot of left wing millennials say that boomer's choices have screwed over millennials but millennials keep choosing to be screwed over.

Here is a vice video of a guy complaining about high rent prices and how to stop it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xKz5AcuXE

His solution, rent control. Basically severely regulate rent prices. He gives an example of a rent controlled house where the prices have not gone up since the 70s. Never mind the fact this will severely hurt landlords because inflation, demand, and upkeep (because services will increase with inflation). He then states:

What are some places in the United States where Millennials have successfully advocated for rent control?

[SeaFM]

My thoughts are that boomers sold out future generations for material goods.

Millennials are fucked up, but there’s a generation in between that you’re missing.

They’re the ones that brought up all these fragile kids that can’t cope with anything, never learned that losing sucks, etc. They’re the ones that gave everybody trophies for being mediocre, and that tried to “nerf” the world.

Millennials do get shit on a lot, but their parents made them what they are.

[RawGod]

Don't forget, white boomers completely and voluntarily made sure their grandchildren would be a minority instead of an 85% majority in the USA. A handover to rival ethnic groups unprecedented in history.

[for.petes.sake]

(05-05-2019 10:02 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 09:00 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  

In terms of progressive and economic polices boomers and left-wing millennials are very different. A lot of left wing millennials say that boomer's choices have screwed over millennials but millennials keep choosing to be screwed over.

Here is a vice video of a guy complaining about high rent prices and how to stop it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xKz5AcuXE

His solution, rent control. Basically severely regulate rent prices. He gives an example of a rent controlled house where the prices have not gone up since the 70s. Never mind the fact this will severely hurt landlords because inflation, demand, and upkeep (because services will increase with inflation). He then states:

What are some places in the United States where Millennials have successfully advocated for rent control?

I dont know any place where rent control policies have been successfully implemented but what I do know is that in major leftist areas such the bay area and new York have leftist groups that try to push for more rent control. Actually the video does give an example of a city that implemented rent control but I cant remember the city name and I do not want to watch the video again.

[Aurini]

(05-05-2019 10:13 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

Don't forget, white boomers completely and voluntarily made sure their grandchildren would be a minority instead of an 85% majority in the USA. A handover to rival ethnic groups unprecedented in history.

Don't underestimate how much damage this has caused. When you don't have people who are like you to associate with - who remember the same songs, who get that joke about the shitty beer from ten years ago - it's a hell of a lot harder to build support networks.

[SeaFM]

Excellent point.

Looks like the globalist plan has been in place since at least the mid 70’s.

My primary school had 1 Indian kid and one mullato kid that I can remember. My younger sibling is a school teacher and the majority of the class is middle eastern or African.

We have indeed been replaced.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(05-05-2019 10:27 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  

I dont know any place where rent control policies have been successfully implemented but what I do know is that in major leftist areas such the bay area and new York have leftist groups that try to push for more rent control. Actually the video does give an example of a city that implemented rent control but I cant remember the city name and I do not want to watch the video again.

Boomer: "Millennials are fucking themselves over by enacting rent control! It's their fault they can't afford even a 1 room apartment!"
Millennial: "What are some places where Millennials have enacted rent control?"
Boomer: "I don't know, and I'm not gonna take the time to check!"


Yeah this is why people hate Boomers.