[docdrops]

(12-21-2018 06:39 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

There are some areas of Eastern Europe where girls have fat assess, chiefly Poland: their arses are ballooning at a rapid rate, there are also some other pockets of big arses like Macedonia.

If you're a "decent looking guy" who regularly bangs 5'6 and 6's in the west, then either you're not a decent looking guy at all, or you have some confidence problems

My 5 and 6's could also be your 7's and 8s. Kind of subjective

[docdrops]

https://www.rooshv.com/the-busted-dudes-test

Forgot to cite this article posted by roosh 7 years back to support my thesis.

[brianmark]

(12-22-2018 10:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 11:26 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:48 PM)corsega Wrote:  

The forum sex tourism myth is "omg brah you're gonna be able to get 9s because of your value".

Maybe if you go to Southeast Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia) or Eastern Europe

The East Asia threads are all full of people saying how the 9s are pretty much as hard to get as anywhere else.

The high end girls, 9s, in all countries, date the wealthy men of their own countries. 9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

[placer]

(12-23-2018 03:43 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

This is probably true, but when I was going to the gym multiple times a week to keep myself fit (Clue for newbies: No instant poosie paradise if you’re a fat slob), there was a chick there, looking back, who was an 8 or so who I probably could had bagged if I had just a little more game.

One thing which should be mentioned in this thread, especially for older men, is that, in Latin America, age differences don’t matter the way they do in the US (I will let other posters let us know how true this is in Asia, the former Soviet Union, and Africa). In my early 30s, I was able to date college students who were in their young 20s and were 6.5 in terms of looks. Even in my late 30s, before I finally settled down, I dated multiple 18-year-old girls who were 5.5-6 in terms of appearance.

For fat slobs, going to the gym makes a lot of sense, no matter where you are in the world, unless you’re willing to go the P4P route (please know that we do not endorse prostitution here; I like to know the girl is enjoying my dick, not my wallet, thank you very much).

For older men, incels, or for people who can only date land whales, getting as fit as possible and living and dating in another country makes a lot of sense. Even for people who can get decent dates in the US, Latin America can very well make sense in this #MeToo age where harpies and our liberal press think it’s OK to shame men for wanting to fuck women; my Latina female friends are still sharing nude photos, talking about orgasms, or telling dirty jokes on my Facebook feed, while my female friends from the US whine about men trying to sleep with women.

[eck]

In Spain, where I am from, 4-5. In Poland and Ukraine, I can get maximum a 7,5 , but pleased with that. I'm talking only about physique, personality is another issue (way better in EE).

[semibaron]

Girls abroad aren't hotter. They have more pleasant personalities.

[docdrops]

(12-23-2018 10:06 AM)placer Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 03:43 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

This is probably true, but when I was going to the gym multiple times a week to keep myself fit (Clue for newbies: No instant poosie paradise if you’re a fat slob), there was a chick there, looking back, who was an 8 or so who I probably could had bagged if I had just a little more game.

One thing which should be mentioned in this thread, especially for older men, is that, in Latin America, age differences don’t matter the way they do in the US (I will let other posters let us know how true this is in Asia, the former Soviet Union, and Africa). In my early 30s, I was able to date college students who were in their young 20s and were 6.5 in terms of looks. Even in my late 30s, before I finally settled down, I dated multiple 18-year-old girls who were 5.5-6 in terms of appearance.

For fat slobs, going to the gym makes a lot of sense, no matter where you are in the world, unless you’re willing to go the P4P route (please know that we do not endorse prostitution here; I like to know the girl is enjoying my dick, not my wallet, thank you very much).

For older men, incels, or for people who can only date land whales, getting as fit as possible and living and dating in another country makes a lot of sense. Even for people who can get decent dates in the US, Latin America can very well make sense in this #MeToo age where harpies and our liberal press think it’s OK to shame men for wanting to fuck women; my Latina female friends are still sharing nude photos, talking about orgasms, or telling dirty jokes on my Facebook feed, while my female friends from the US whine about men trying to sleep with women.

I can get girls in the U.S, just not the ones I want. Not even in the looks department, but also they do not have skills or values that align with my own. Creating and maintain a household, being able to cook and clean. Have not been able to find too many american girls that have that.

Like I said, I did meet a polish girl and a dominican girl like this when abroad. From the limited week that I spent around them, they checked off more criteria than an american girl did the 6 months I spent dating her.

Also, does help that I am just naturally physically attracted to girls with darker features/ features that look exotic to me. Latinas whether of european, mulatto, mestizo, or african descent automatically get a +1 boost from me.

[robreke]

The hardest country for me to day game, is the US. It's harder by a long shot.

I have much more success with day game in Mexico, SA and to a lesser extent in EE.

It's also easier for me to get online dates with attractive girls in Europe and South America.

That said, the hottest girl I banged this year was in the USA. A high 8, 23 year old. I'd consider her "beautiful".

I've banged some cute foreign girls as well this year. Not that hot though.

[brianmark]

(12-23-2018 10:06 AM)placer Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 03:43 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

This is probably true, but when I was going to the gym multiple times a week to keep myself fit (Clue for newbies: No instant poosie paradise if you’re a fat slob), there was a chick there, looking back, who was an 8 or so who I probably could had bagged if I had just a little more game.

One thing which should be mentioned in this thread, especially for older men, is that, in Latin America, age differences don’t matter the way they do in the US (I will let other posters let us know how true this is in Asia, the former Soviet Union, and Africa). In my early 30s, I was able to date college students who were in their young 20s and were 6.5 in terms of looks. Even in my late 30s, before I finally settled down, I dated multiple 18-year-old girls who were 5.5-6 in terms of appearance.

For fat slobs, going to the gym makes a lot of sense, no matter where you are in the world, unless you’re willing to go the P4P route (please know that we do not endorse prostitution here; I like to know the girl is enjoying my dick, not my wallet, thank you very much).

For older men, incels, or for people who can only date land whales, getting as fit as possible and living and dating in another country makes a lot of sense. Even for people who can get decent dates in the US, Latin America can very well make sense in this #MeToo age where harpies and our liberal press think it’s OK to shame men for wanting to fuck women; my Latina female friends are still sharing nude photos, talking about orgasms, or telling dirty jokes on my Facebook feed, while my female friends from the US whine about men trying to sleep with women.

I can speak for 3 of the areas of the world you mention: Asia, FSU, and Latin America. Age means little. You can date girls much younger. You can call it Game or whatever and you can't be a loser. Girls in these countries want a classy guy. Looks, money, and fun. Never underestimate how much they appreciate a fun guy. Yes, money is important. You should be able to afford to buy them drinks, a meal, and even out party them. You will never be alone. They are not going to hookup or stick with any guy that is a loser.

These other parts of the world are not ruined by Feminism and #MeToo. The girls are still looking for a good man.

[Irish]

My current Indonesian girlfriend I cannot even find a girl as hot as her in my home city (UK), never mind be able to pull one of her equivalent caliber.

[Swordfish1010]

American girls may be self absorbed cunts, but they are still probably the hottest. Clearly this doesn't apply to place likes the midwest or northwest though. Places like California, AZ, Florida, and New York have 9's and 10's in bigger numbers than anywhere.

[MongolianAbroad]

(12-24-2018 09:20 AM)Irish Wrote:  

My current Indonesian girlfriend I cannot even find a girl as hot as her in my home city (UK), never mind be able to pull one of her equivalent caliber.

Man I've noticed the hot Indonesian girls have this insanely exotic look. When they're hot, they're HOT.

[Swordfish1010]

I don't think the smartphone effect is that big of a deal. It sets you apart from the common male that relies on the internet to meet girls when you have the confidence to actually approach them in person. Younger guys are less and less able to do this (I'm a millennial).

[Swordfish1010]

Also internet porn addictions are causing young men to have less sex in general. Something that is also not discussed very often. I am starting to get the feeling that this forum is made up of mostly older dudes (no offense).

[Pokerbaby]

(12-26-2018 09:08 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  

Also internet porn addictions are causing young men to have less sex in general. Something that is also not discussed very often. I am starting to get the feeling that this forum is made up of mostly older dudes (no offense).

None taken, I am older.

[Pokerbaby]

(12-26-2018 08:49 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  

American girls may be self absorbed cunts, but they are still probably the hottest. Clearly this doesn't apply to place likes the midwest or northwest though. Places like California, AZ, Florida, and New York have 9's and 10's in bigger numbers than anywhere.

I go to the Midwest frequently (st louis, KC,) and there a ton of hot girls, an abundance of 7's and 8's though I didn't see any 9's or 10's.

When I went to NYC I expected to see hot girls everywhere, since it is the modeling capital of the world. This wasn't the case for me. The way it was explained to me, In NYC you have to know where to look. There will be some amazing clubs but it's not like there will be some ratio of 9s and 10's for every club. Combine with the fact there are so many tourists, you really don't know what you are going to find.

For the USA, for me, the midwest is the absolute best place to game (though I never really tried in the south).

[Pokerbaby]

(12-23-2018 03:43 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 10:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 11:26 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:48 PM)corsega Wrote:  

The forum sex tourism myth is "omg brah you're gonna be able to get 9s because of your value".

Maybe if you go to Southeast Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia) or Eastern Europe

The East Asia threads are all full of people saying how the 9s are pretty much as hard to get as anywhere else.

The high end girls, 9s, in all countries, date the wealthy men of their own countries. 9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

I think this is mainly true for poorer, developing countries.

[BaatumMania]

(12-26-2018 10:57 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 03:43 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 10:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 11:26 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:48 PM)corsega Wrote:  

The forum sex tourism myth is "omg brah you're gonna be able to get 9s because of your value".

Maybe if you go to Southeast Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia) or Eastern Europe

The East Asia threads are all full of people saying how the 9s are pretty much as hard to get as anywhere else.

The high end girls, 9s, in all countries, date the wealthy men of their own countries. 9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

I think this is mainly true for poorer, developing countries.

Asia is a land of biases. I rarely see Chads or even Stacys traveling here. If anything Thailand and Philipphines has an overrepresented number of fat old wife hunters or fat old guys going on a sex tourism vacation vacation.

Serpentza is probably one of the better looking male vloggers in Asia (isn't a Chad though) but dressing up in a suit all the time was somehow able to get him a Chinese 6.

So I am inclined to think if Chads went into Asia in large numbers then they would probably get the equivalent of 7s and 8s. It's just western Chads are already getting to pound hot blondes back home so they wouldn't want to go with 'inferior' humans (a lot of racism in the sexual market place after all). And poor Chads want better money so try to get into places like USA and Britain not China / Thailand.

[Heuristics]

OP, this is completely dependent on a variety of factors.

That being said, most men get a point or two boost by expatriating. Of course, this is all dependent on your game level, fitness, knowledge of foreign language, wealth, and social circle.

For good reason many men say "Hell, no" to the US.

Mileage may vary, but it is easy to say the biggest factor is how long you are spending time in the foreign locale. More time the better.

[Pokerbaby]

Poland (Eastern Europe in general) is starting to get such a bad rep, but it is still much easier there to meet quality women than anywhere in the Anglosphere.

[BaatumMania]

(12-27-2018 12:43 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

Poland (Eastern Europe in general) is starting to get such a bad rep, but it is still much easier there to meet quality women than anywhere in the Anglosphere.

Not sure why Poland got to the reputation. When I was traveling in Europe in the 2000s I found Germans, Finns and Czechs to be more sociable with me. And I met a bunch of good gals in Ukraine too. For me it was actually the Baltic States + Poland that had the colder women.

[Heuristics]

(12-27-2018 01:10 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(12-27-2018 12:43 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

Poland (Eastern Europe in general) is starting to get such a bad rep, but it is still much easier there to meet quality women than anywhere in the Anglosphere.

Not sure why Poland got to the reputation. When I was traveling in Europe in the 2000s I found Germans, Finns and Czechs to be more sociable with me. And I met a bunch of good gals in Ukraine too. For me it was actually the Baltic States + Poland that had the colder women.

I hear about Poland, and I feel like i'm hearing about it late. If the accounts are to be believed, it has been saturated for several years with western gamers. That being said, nothing like gaming in the West were almost all the women that are clever are game aware. Hard to sort the hype from the truth on this one.

[ElJefe1]

(12-23-2018 03:43 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 10:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(12-21-2018 11:26 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:48 PM)corsega Wrote:  

The forum sex tourism myth is "omg brah you're gonna be able to get 9s because of your value".

Maybe if you go to Southeast Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia) or Eastern Europe

The East Asia threads are all full of people saying how the 9s are pretty much as hard to get as anywhere else.

The high end girls, 9s, in all countries, date the wealthy men of their own countries. 9s never have to seek men outside of their own culture. Western men in Asia or any where else in the world always date below this level.

From my personal experience and things I’ve seen this isn’t always the case, 9’s do bang foreign guys on a regular basis just about anywhere you go. While they date date wealthy guys it’s definitely not exclusive and they’re 100% banging guys that aren’t wealthy. To say 9s never seek men outside of their culture is just crazy.

[ElJefe1]

(12-26-2018 08:49 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  

American girls may be self absorbed cunts, but they are still probably the hottest. Clearly this doesn't apply to place likes the midwest or northwest though. Places like California, AZ, Florida, and New York have 9's and 10's in bigger numbers than anywhere.

American girls are probably the hottest?????

[asiaslayer]

(12-27-2018 12:09 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Asia is a land of biases. I rarely see Chads or even Stacys traveling here. If anything Thailand and Philipphines has an overrepresented number of fat old wife hunters or fat old guys going on a sex tourism vacation vacation.

Serpentza is probably one of the better looking male vloggers in Asia (isn't a Chad though) but dressing up in a suit all the time was somehow able to get him a Chinese 6.

So I am inclined to think if Chads went into Asia in large numbers then they would probably get the equivalent of 7s and 8s. It's just western Chads are already getting to pound hot blondes back home so they wouldn't want to go with 'inferior' humans (a lot of racism in the sexual market place after all). And poor Chads want better money so try to get into places like USA and Britain not China / Thailand.

That's not exactly true. There are Russian and Slavic male 'models' all over China (most of them earn slave wages for modeling gigs).

Additionally, I've met super good looking 6' 2"+ Norwegian and German guys chasing after Korean girls in nightclubs in Seoul. I hear it's similar in Japan and most cities in SEA. These are the types of guys you'd expect would have no problems getting hot girls back in their home countries, so what they're doing in Asia is anyone's guess.