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Roosh's 'Inversion Agenda' & the Satanic Reversal

Roosh's 'Inversion Agenda' & the Satanic Reversal

Quote: (01-31-2019 10:11 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Via Heartiste's post, "The Horror Show Known As Trannyfreakism":
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January 30, 2019 by CH

There was a show on TeeVee about a child getting a sex change operation, with the full support of parents and doctors, all of whom indoctrinated by the satanic “love wins” zeitgeist.

I’ll put the entire Twatter thread here. Read it, recoil at the horrors revealed, and realize we are much further down the path of culture death than you imagined.

(thread) on what happened on TV last night. The first recorded "celebrity" sex change and its horrific aftermath. Republican twitter may be upset about the governor of VA today. But this is happening all over the country and we need to talk about it pic.twitter.com/ZxdbsmPudr
wyatt (@wyattbased) January 30, 2019

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Context. This person has been suffering under this fake ideology since a child. Was put on drugs. And didnt have enough “meat” to make a “normal” sex change happen. So they did experimental surgery. The childs first exclamation is how “deep” its vagina is
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The surgeries are BRUTAL. Plastic surgeons do these but the reality is its mutilation. Its moving parts of the body to where they do not belong to create something that isnt real or functional. Complications are nightmarish and end in suicides often.
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The strain it puts on a family unit is intense. Even if a father consents to it or “believes” in the ideology his whole life. Its is not normal and in this case both the father and the grandparents flee the scene despite knowing complications could occur.
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And just 36 hours later disaster strikes. Because this is not a normal surgery. Complications are often NORMAL. You are cutting off skin and re-attaching it other places. In this case , loss of bloodflow would cause necrosis. Skin death
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The doctor knew ahead of time there would likely be complications. This isnt okay because a doctors job is to do no harm. This person is in serious danger of massive infection and cell death. And if they survive , suicide from failed transition/mutilation
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But the ultimate truth is this is the parents fault. The doctors are only complicit. This person was indoctrinated since 7 years old that it was an appropriate life choice and the parents allowed it. Soon the government will step in if you interfere
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Currently nobody is fighting this. The GOP has not fought this. Nobody has. We are marching towards a very sick world and nobody is speaking up. Contact your representatives and educate yourselves. Its going to get worse.
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When a parent is unable to tell their little boy or little girl who they are because of political or even legal consequences. This country will be beyond saving. We have seen how the LGBT mafia operates. But they are now targeting your kids. Pick a side. Pick your child's side

The degeneracy is accelerating. We are exponentially approaching complete social collapse.

Glad to see this thought criminal has already been purged from existence by the Twitter Stasi. Good guy Jack Dorsey can't let this noninclusive dialogue reach the masses. Meanwhile the degenerate pedos are free to continue to communicate with each other and spread their ideology across the safe space that is Twitter.
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Roosh's 'Inversion Agenda' & the Satanic Reversal

Also from Heartiste, a perfect example of the inversion agenda:

[Image: falsepride.jpeg?w=500&h=627]

“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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Quote: (02-02-2019 06:05 AM)Avoy Wrote:  

Humans are very self-centered creatures who think the world/universe and God's interest only revolves around them because we were created in his image. Hate to break it to you... if God is the creator, than everything in the infinity of space is made in his image. Even the concept of God is too limited because our brains can't process thoughts beyond what is humanly possible.

Only quoting myself here for a point of reference.

I just got a chuckle. Buddha himself one-upped me!

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No Creator God
The Buddha pointed out that no God or priest nor any other kind of being has the power to interfere in the working out of someone else's Kamma. Buddhism, therefore, teaches the individual to take full responsibility for themselves. For example, if you want to be wealthy then be trustworthy, diligent and frugal, or if you want to live in a heaven realm then always be kind to others. There is no God to ask favours from, or to put it another way there is no corruption possible in the workings of Kamma.

Do Buddhists believe that a Supreme Being created the universe? Buddhists would first ask which universe do you mean? This present universe, from the moment of the 'big bang' up to now, is but one among countless millions in Buddhist cosmology. The Buddha gave an estimate of the age of a single universe-cycle of around 37,000 million years, which is quite plausible when compared to modern astrophysics. After one universe- cycle ends another begins, again and again, according to impersonal law. A Creator God is redundant in this scheme.

No being is a Supreme Saviour, according to the Buddha, because whether God, human, animal or whatever, all are subject to the Law of Kamma. Even the Buddha had no power to save. He could only point out the Truth so that the wise could see it for themselves. Everyone must take responsibility for their own future well-being, and it is dangerous to give that responsibility to another.
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[quote] (12-14-2018 06:21 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

[quote='Leonard D Neubache' pid='1903423' dateline='1544708391']

As such, the Bible predicts whenever a Godless State is created in the name of 'saving the people', it will instead oppress them, which is why I see this 'Spontaneous' Simultaneous Worldwide Nationalism, always with Zionist Actors in the background, as an approaching cloud of doom.

...

Anyway, I think the original topic is too black pill a topic for the forum, because the books by Orthodox Jewish authors that I dug into yesterday suggest that Labour Zionists, Freemasons / Illuminati and Reform Jews are all the same S-F Heretics, pretending to be multiple sides of any argument to guarantee the already decided outcome.

It matches my long standing suspicion that Trump isn't really fighting anything...[/quote]

Is there a dogma around here to describe the significance of the anti-Israel movement in terms of the overall Satanic Reversal?

I recently saw a movie where Satan was played by Anthony Hopkins and one of his many tricks was answering a question in several contradictory ways, which is consistent with the confusion and discord currently unfolding, perhaps, you might say, around the conflict between Globalists and Nationalists. If the parties are sowing all of this chaos intentionally to disable and interrupt human society, those tactics certainly have Satanic properties. The great example is the Tower of Babel, where the devil shatters human solidarity by making everybody speak diverse languages.

I asked Roosh to explain why SJWs hate Israel and love Palestinians, and Islam in general. The premises are of course that the SJW position is the product of psy-ops coordinated by elite "Aliens" (whom I like to call Illuminati). Furthermore, there are alot of Jewish members in this ruling elite, probably because Jews have higher IQs statistically than other genetic lineages. This question is highly speculative, because only God and the conspirators know how the Inversion Agenda was actually laid out and why. The rest of us can only infer from very weak data that has filtered through many layers of bullshit and propaganda.

His answer was that there are "too (sic) kinds of jews, Zionists and Reform (secular)." The elite Jews involved in controlling the Globalist movement are "mostly" Reform sect, he wrote. This implies that Zionists, according to Roosh, are not as closely associated with the Illuminati. Indeed, he made it clear, Israel "is too nationalistic" to be useful as part of the Globalist agenda. "They will destroy Israel eventually."

This makes sense, that the Reform Jews aren't in direct conflict with the anti-Israel movement, opening the way for their slave army, the SJWs, to exercise an active hatred toward Israel. But is there a reason why the Reform sect might actively seek to destroy Israel? I'm still waiting on his reply. Can anyone explain this? Maybe it is just good ol' Satan sowing confusion and conflict between allies. Maybe it is a hostility toward ethnocratic states, which could involve flooding developed states with penniless immigrants. But is there evidence of the globalists trying to destabilize other similar states?

The simplest answer is that there is no reason, that the victim mentality has simply led SJWs to arbitrarily oppose Israel because they have chosen to assign victim status to Palestinians, thus making them less privileged, that is, higher up on the status hierarchy that SJWs seek to enforce. Conversely, because Jews are "more privileged", and often find themselves owning large bank accounts due to their intelligence and working habits, they are therefore less valuable in that social order. At best, they could be allies, which the Reform sect do overtly seem to be.
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Found this in a Richie From Boston video.

It is supposed to be a sculpture of Jesus' resurrection.

It is at the Vatican.

Popes sit in front of it.

Looks like Easter to me.

[Image: vatican172_01_small.jpg]

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatic...can172.htm

“The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents.”

Carl Jung
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Quote: (02-18-2019 10:33 AM)felix_vagabondo Wrote:  

The great example is the Tower of Babel, where the devil shatters human solidarity by making everybody speak diverse languages.

It was God's will for people to be scattered around the earth with different languages. Not Satan's. The current push is once again for world unification...or as Roosh would say, the inversion of what God's will is for humanity layed out in the Bible. As far as the anti Israel movement, well, the Jews murdered Jesus and were subsequently thrown out. Biblically speaking the physical fake nation of Israel shouldn't even exist. Which is another inversion brought to us courtesy by forerunner of world government the UN. The Jews are of the belief they are still waiting for their Messiah, who will be a political figure. The Jewish "messiah" they are waiting for is the Biblical antichrist found in the new testament who will appear once the world is again unified. After the Jews gave up Jesus, they were cursed by God, pushed out of their lands and are no longer God's chosen people. Those who believe on Jesus Christ are. It only stands to reason modern Judaism is used as a vessel by satan himself to deceive the world and bring about his kingdom on earth, invert God's order to defy him and fulfill Biblical prophecy.

Genesis 11: 1-9
1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

When Jesus was tempted by the Devil, he was tempted with being given political power over all nations.
Luke 4:5-7
5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

And in Revelation, the antichrist is given the same power to establish his kingdom that Christ was tempted with. When the Bible says the word saints, it's referring to those who believe on Christ.

Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Dreams are like horses; they run wild on the earth. Catch one and ride it. Throw a leg over and ride it for all its worth.
Psalm 25:7
https://youtu.be/vHVoMCH10Wk
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SpectrumWalker thanks for correcting the tower of Babel falshehood in the previous post, someone had to do it.
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Yahweh’s will. Not “The father”. Big difference.
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Thank you for the correction
Quote: (02-18-2019 03:00 PM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  

because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth


So why exactly do SJW's and the BDS movement oppose Israel? [Image: huh.gif]

Is BDS part of the Satanic globalist project? If so, what are they trying to achieve by destroying Israel? And wouldn't that suggest that Israel is not part of the globalist project? And if not, why are Progressives so commonly allied with Arab Palestinians over Zionists? Aren't those activists mere pawns of the Illuminati?

I know that it must be difficult exhaustively to discern all of Satan's intentions, but Roosh's answer suggested that the state of Israel itself and Zionists were not part of the Inversion Agenda, that there is a division within Judaism, putting Reform on the side of the Illuminati, and Zionists as just another nation-state trying to make ends meet.
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Quote: (02-18-2019 08:52 PM)felix_vagabondo Wrote:  

So why exactly do SJW's and the BDS movement oppose Israel? [Image: huh.gif]

In my own opinion I think a lot of it has to do with pure perception. And for many perception is reality. The term "judeo Christian" gets thrown around pretty loosely in the west so that most people just think automatically Judaism and Christianity are essentially one in the same. Even though that's complete and total bs if you actually read the Bible. At least the King James Bible. In case of SJWs and liberals you have this feminine collective mindset of always wanting to side with the underdog. Christianity and Judaism in an SJWs worldview are the Oppressors, imperialists and exploiters of the poor little guy. If you study old Marxist and socialist writings there's a deep seeted hatred of religion, in particular Christianity as being this instrument of capitalism to subdue the masses. In this case Palestinians and Muslims who "suffered so much under the hands of Christian Crusaders." Lol.

Reform Judaism gave the world socialism, and Marxism. Or maybe it was the other way around, can't remember but whatever. So all the useful idiots on the left even if they hate Israel, are still unwittingly advancing progressive Judaism. And As far the reform Jews , well, go ahead and put a tin foil hat on me, but I think they know exactly what they're doing. Trying to make Israel enemy number one, and the prophetical Biblical cultural conditions just right in order to bring about a clash of civilizations surrounding the three religions and "holy" lands leaving the nation of Israel at the center of it all to produce the Antichrist. Their much anticipated Messiah. I.e. Satan. Karl Marx himself wrote poetry as a young man with honorable mentions towards Satan.

Look at today's culture and who it's enablers are in media and politics. As I said, I believe Judaism to be a vessel of Satan (Ephesians 6:12) himself to bring about his one world kingdom after the Jews were cursed for rejecting their real messiah.

Matthew 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be

Dreams are like horses; they run wild on the earth. Catch one and ride it. Throw a leg over and ride it for all its worth.
Psalm 25:7
https://youtu.be/vHVoMCH10Wk
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Quote: (02-18-2019 09:10 PM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  

...I think they know exactly what they're doing. Trying to make Israel enemy number one, and the prophetical Biblical cultural conditions just right in order to bring about a clash of civilizations...

So Reform sect is allied with the Zionists, and BDS is only authorized to proceed as a Zionist/Satanic false flag tactic for ratcheting up the tensions and hastening another world war? This would make sense, given that BDS doesn't seem to pose a serious existential challenge to Israel, but it does stir up a lot of noise and emotional turbulence.
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Roosh's 'Inversion Agenda' & the Satanic Reversal

Please recall that, just like the confusion and chaos caused by leftist or progressive movements, the same thing came out of what we call "judaism" in terms of ideas and language. Likely because so many persisted in rejecting the messiah of israel. Yes, just before 2nd temple judaism, initiated after Cyrus the Great allows jews to return to jerusalem having beat down the Babylonians, rebuilding the temple --- the jews were in Babylonian captivity. But that only lasted some 60 years. The stage was set later on for the Christ to come, because of the prophecies through Daniel, known by all 2nd temple jews. That's why there were so many "messiahs" during Christ's time, all of the fake ones getting smacked down via violent uprisings against the "occupying" Romans. Where did that leave us? With a destroyed Temple (AD 70), as Jesus of Nazareth said would happen, due to the rejection of the one true Messiah, but actually according to God's plan in any case. The whole point for the Jews, who should understand this after all the years of rejecting and killing the prophets, AND disobeying God (and Moses) over and over, was that they were a conduit for salvation history for the world, in many senses like and unlike any other --- but the restoration/healing is for ALL people. So what do we have now? A people who call themselves jews, who are actually just pharisees, the only remaining sect of judaism at the time and without:

a temple.
a priesthood.
sacrifice for the errors of the people, because of no temple

Unlike the Babylonian exile, which was a short time, they have been without these for, think of it, almost 2000 years.

Meanwhile, what we now call "Christians" (and that needs to be discerned) have:

an assembly/church ("temple")
a priesthood
an an eternal sacrifice for all the errors of the people who desire to become sons of God

It turns out that "Christianity" is more "jewish" than rabbinical judaism could ever be, and that is precisely because the christian church is, as Paul of Tarsus (former pharisee) said, "The Israel of God".

While it will be tested by the evil forces mentioned in the world, the church mentioned in the nicene creed will never completely go away, even from the earth.
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Quote: (02-18-2019 03:51 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

SpectrumWalker thanks for correcting the tower of Babel falshehood in the previous post, someone had to do it.

For humanity to unite as one is to unite in rebellion against God. Plus real diversity is good.
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Quote: (02-18-2019 11:41 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Found this in a Richie From Boston video.

It is supposed to be a sculpture of Jesus' resurrection.

It is at the Vatican.

Popes sit in front of it.

Looks like Easter to me.

[Image: vatican172_01_small.jpg]

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatic...can172.htm



Looks like demons trying to escape hell.
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I find this whole thing about how Demons are a real thing endlessly fascinating. I'd love to believe it was true. Our world without space travel is pretty boring, comparatively speaking.

That said, there's a very interesting Twitter thread where a guy heavily into psychedelics seems to have discovered connections between the Fae, Alien abduction and Demons. (Spoiler alert: They're All Demons that you can visit when you take DMT).

Anyway, it's a hell of a read.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10967...33120.html

Hard as hell to excerpt meaningfully...

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alright so, it is time. this is going to be a long, winding, rambling thread. i posted yesterday about demons existing and this interesecting with the world of psychedelia. ive posted about this in the past a little and there is always a huge response, people are very into it.
the thing is ive been hesitant to paint the full picture as i see it for a few reasons. mostly because what i see as the full picture is an intersection of so many seemingly completely unrelated things that its quite a long walk between many seemingly disparate things.
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If you read any old occult books written by self proclaimed Magis like Eliphas Levi, you'll find it weird how they are written exactly as if though demons are real. They really believed in them.
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That's why they are real, you have a lot of people who believe in them.

“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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Quote: (02-19-2019 01:44 PM)Malone Wrote:  

I find this whole thing about how Demons are a real thing endlessly fascinating. I'd love to believe it was true. Our world without space travel is pretty boring, comparatively speaking.

That said, there's a very interesting Twitter thread where a guy heavily into psychedelics seems to have discovered connections between the Fae, Alien abduction and Demons. (Spoiler alert: They're All Demons that you can visit when you take DMT).

Anyway, it's a hell of a read.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10967...33120.html

Hard as hell to excerpt meaningfully...

That is my impression, however - during the War in Heaven only 2/3 of the angels fought. It's never clearly said what happened to the other third, and there are reports from some of the saints about visions of mythological creatures asking them to pray for their salvation.
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I don't want to get too far into this, but the competing "Gods" of the Old Testament against the one true God of Israel were not gods, but they were [evil] spirits --- and they were allowed to have power, like any of the demons or the divider himself. The spiritual world is real, and sadly it contains rebellion just like ours. Rebellion which crosses over to our world in many ways. This was never doubted by any ancient people or by 2nd temple jewish people, for example.

But let us stress again that their dominion even over this earth was vanquished when the God-man defeated death, so ultimately if you are on the right side, they have no power over you. Sit at my right hand, while I make your enemies your footstool. The last enemy was always death, and the rebellious demons always rejoiced in it. Now, they are nothing but pathetic, disloyal tempters.
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Quote: (02-19-2019 07:55 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

For humanity to unite as one is to unite in rebellion against God. Plus real diversity is good.

This is what confuses me. As Roosh observed, Israel is very nationalistic. They even went so far as to revive Hebrew instead of adopting a more commonly spoken language. There is a vigorous anti-Arab hostility amongst Israelis. Furthermore, Orthodox Jews are traditional in their gender roles. Thus, Zionism/Israel might be to some extent incompatible with globalism.

What am I missing here? Roosh suggested that Zionists/Orthodox Jews are not allied with the Illuminati, but that Reform Jews oftentimes are. It seems reasonable that Reform/SJW opposition to Israel (BDS etc.) could be a false flag operation, or just a random byproduct of SJW victim-glorification, and that Israeli nationalism is somehow a tactic in the globalist playbook.
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Quote: (02-19-2019 07:37 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

I don't want to get too far into this, but the competing "Gods" of the Old Testament against the one true God of Israel were not gods, but they were [evil] spirits --- and they were allowed to have power, like any of the demons or the divider himself. The spiritual world is real, and sadly it contains rebellion just like ours. Rebellion which crosses over to our world in many ways. This was never doubted by any ancient people or by 2nd temple jewish people, for example.

But let us stress again that their dominion even over this earth was vanquished when the God-man defeated death, so ultimately if you are on the right side, they have no power over you. Sit at my right hand, while I make your enemies your footstool. The last enemy was always death, and the rebellious demons always rejoiced in it. Now, they are nothing but pathetic, disloyal tempters.

I think that's because the Hebrew word Elohim isn't specifically referring to just God. This word "Elohim" was also used when Samuel was summoned as a spirit by the witch of Endor.
https://biblehub.com/text/1_samuel/28-13.htm

Elohim therefore is a term referring to a spiritual being. When one sees the term used about: "the gods" in the Scriptures it refers to the divine council that God has around him through whom he carries out his will. And who have been making wreckage of this earth

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God presides in the divine assembly;

He renders judgment among the gods:

2“How long will you judge unjustly

and show partiality to the wicked?

Selah

3Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless;

uphold the rights of the afflicted and oppressed.

4Rescue the weak and needy;

save them from the hand of the wicked.

5They do not know or understand;

they wander in the darkness;

all the foundations of the earth are shaken.”

6I have said, “You are gods;

you are all sons of the Most High.

7But like mortals you will die,

and like rulers you will fall.”
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Quote: (02-19-2019 01:44 PM)Malone Wrote:  

I find this whole thing about how Demons are a real thing endlessly fascinating. I'd love to believe it was true. Our world without space travel is pretty boring, comparatively speaking.

That said, there's a very interesting Twitter thread where a guy heavily into psychedelics seems to have discovered connections between the Fae, Alien abduction and Demons. (Spoiler alert: They're All Demons that you can visit when you take DMT).
...

I found it a rather interesting quirk, when the John Hurt character in 'Indiana Jones & the Crystal Skull' made specific mention of the 'aliens' being inter-dimensional. Not inter-planetary...
Curiouser & curiouser...
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Quote: (02-19-2019 11:53 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 01:44 PM)Malone Wrote:  

I find this whole thing about how Demons are a real thing endlessly fascinating. I'd love to believe it was true. Our world without space travel is pretty boring, comparatively speaking.

That said, there's a very interesting Twitter thread where a guy heavily into psychedelics seems to have discovered connections between the Fae, Alien abduction and Demons. (Spoiler alert: They're All Demons that you can visit when you take DMT).
...

I found it a rather interesting quirk, when the John Hurt character in 'Indiana Jones & the Crystal Skull' made specific mention of the 'aliens' being inter-dimensional. Not inter-planetary...
Curiouser & curiouser...

Because they are. All non physical beings are shapeshifters because nature of their reality allows them to do it. During medieval times they represented themselves as fairies and woman in white and now they represent themselves as "dracos", "greys" and insectoids, etc. Who knows what shape they will use 100 years in future.

If they are benevolent or malevolent can be debated greatly but the core thing one must know is the look changes according to times and beliefs of person.
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Quote: (02-20-2019 02:44 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 11:53 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2019 01:44 PM)Malone Wrote:  

I find this whole thing about how Demons are a real thing endlessly fascinating. I'd love to believe it was true. Our world without space travel is pretty boring, comparatively speaking.

That said, there's a very interesting Twitter thread where a guy heavily into psychedelics seems to have discovered connections between the Fae, Alien abduction and Demons. (Spoiler alert: They're All Demons that you can visit when you take DMT).
...

I found it a rather interesting quirk, when the John Hurt character in 'Indiana Jones & the Crystal Skull' made specific mention of the 'aliens' being inter-dimensional. Not inter-planetary...
Curiouser & curiouser...

Because they are. All non physical beings are shapeshifters because nature of their reality allows them to do it. During medieval times they represented themselves as fairies and woman in white and now they represent themselves as "dracos", "greys" and insectoids, etc. Who knows what shape they will use 100 years in future.

If they are benevolent or malevolent can be debated greatly but the core thing one must know is the look changes according to times and beliefs of person.

That's the thing though - something you can only "see" and interact with when you take mind affecting substances is something you can easily dismiss as just a mental construct.

What I am interested in is not the stuff that could easily just be pop culture shaping what we expect to see. Like where the hell did Machine Elves come from? If we do a study with a control group that's never heard any of the DMT stories, do any of them ALSO see Machine Elves?

Do these "entities" ever provide information that it isn't possible the subjects could know?

The problem is all of this is so mired in druggie culture (and all its inherent unreliability) that we can't trust any of this anecdata. You start bringing the religious into it calling what they're seeing Demonic and it becomes even foggier.

On a tangential but possibly related note: I am somewhat convinced that dreams aren't just mental cleanup work. I lucid dream fairly regularly, and remember a fair bit. My dreams tend to revisit places I've been before (only in the dreams). I occasionally have deja vu in some situations coming from dream memories.

There are some other oddities as well. For instance, as a life-long video gamer one of my first instincts for solving a problem is often to shoot it in the face. In a lucid dream I can do that. It's trivial for me to create a rifle from nothing, or use a weapons system in a vehicle. Here's the thing though: For as long as i can remember firing those weapons has no effect. They fire, but the recipient basically ignores it.

Even physically attacking them (with hands and feet) does nothing.

How the hell does that happen in a lucid dream? Obviously I want it to happen since I am doing it and since it's a lucid dream it should happen... but it doesn't. Are external rules being applied in my dream travels? I have a suspicion they are.
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