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Disadvantages for good looking guys
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The biggest disadvantage or problem I've noticed with good looking people is that they're used to getting by on their looks. They can be rather uninteresting with personalities similar to a brick. Goes for guys as well as girls. Give me a 7 that can maintain my interest over a 9 that can't carry on an adult conversation.
I am now thinking of what happened 2 weeks ago. This girl called me the other day and wanted to get to know me. She started asking me questions and for the first 2 minutes i was playing the beta image as if she was gaming me, but then i was like, fuck this, i cant take a women gaming me and not say much (although its easier like that to get laid but i am just too much of a gamer)..so i changed roles and start gaming her...i kinda could tell she was shocked..she gave me her number and told me to call later..but i couldnt be bothered.
But looking good definetely makes a big difference. There are some days that i just look super good and i feel the crazy attention and they are also the days that i get to fuck the most. Looks beats game all day..the guys who think that they look really good but are not fucking a lot, its because they dont look that good in the first place. Man i met this cat few years ago who looked like a model..dude used to get approached by women like crazy...when you have a wing like that it could be a lot easier for you to fuck but if the guy is not the type to be a player then it wont help much. But all my close wings always looked good and that shit always made it easy for us to close hardcore. Imagine a bunch of good looking dudes with mad game and approaching women all the time and many of these chicks we used to gangbang...and just to remind you guys, a strong team always makes gaming a lot easier..women love to see a bunch of fly guys together.
But looking good definetely makes a big difference. There are some days that i just look super good and i feel the crazy attention and they are also the days that i get to fuck the most. Looks beats game all day..the guys who think that they look really good but are not fucking a lot, its because they dont look that good in the first place. Man i met this cat few years ago who looked like a model..dude used to get approached by women like crazy...when you have a wing like that it could be a lot easier for you to fuck but if the guy is not the type to be a player then it wont help much. But all my close wings always looked good and that shit always made it easy for us to close hardcore. Imagine a bunch of good looking dudes with mad game and approaching women all the time and many of these chicks we used to gangbang...and just to remind you guys, a strong team always makes gaming a lot easier..women love to see a bunch of fly guys together.
Quote: (12-14-2011 09:33 AM)hoops330 Wrote:
Goes for guys as well as girls. Give me a 7 that can maintain my interest over a 9 that can't carry on an adult conversation.
Yeah....no. Not for me anyway.
I'll take the vapid 9 every time, I'm not hanging out with her for the conversation. I've got actual friends for that.
DISCLAIMER: I don't know what I'm talking about and my posts are opinion, not advice.
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Quote: (10-04-2011 07:09 PM)Mace Wrote:
For good looking guys it's all about FAG game - Fuck-Up Avoidance Game. Don't say anything stupid.
Here's a solid example.
She was already into him, it was up to him not to fuck it up by saying something stupid. Solid FAG game in play.
On their respective looks scales, he way out-ranks her. It's just a slaughter. The script is completely flipped.
It's funny, because now she is in the position that most of us are in, and her game is terrible.
Imagine one of us going to dinner with a girl and ordering her a shot before dinner and then saying "You are so cute.." and "I'm trying to get you drunk."
^^Tall, white guys have it pretty easy with white girls who are into that look. You don't even have to look that good. Just be tall and white.
All but one of my friends that are objectively very good looking share a serious disadvantage: no game. They don't have game because they never needed it. They get to fuck chicks because those chicks approached them, or wanted to be approached by them, and a guy like me was invisible no matter how tight his game was. Their "game" can be sloppy as shit, and they still bang chicks. At first glance this seems like a big plus, since they all have higher counts than I do.
Every one of them fails at LTR. fails. Miserably. FAILS. They couldn't keep a chick faithful for more than a couple of months if adultery were a capital offense. They could all add up the number of chicks they have all dated that didn't eventually cheat or dump them for a higher status cock, and it would add up to a number between zero and zero.
Now, on the other hand, one of my long time friends has it all. he is objectively super good looking, makes a fuck ton of money, and his game is probably tighter than some of the most respected guys writing about it. Let's just say his wife hasn't had sex nearly as many times as he had since they met. Hell, I know of at least one chick that thought she was his girl friend for two weeks until his phone rang and he was like "hey, quiet, my girl friend is calling me" (the chick told me about it, not him). His wife is about a 7.5 after child birth, was a about a 8.5 before. He stopped fucking other chicks after his son was born, but only because he wants his son to grow up in a stable house hold. Sometimes I wonder if his fidelity will lead his wife to get over confident and act like every other hypergamous sloot.
Every one of them fails at LTR. fails. Miserably. FAILS. They couldn't keep a chick faithful for more than a couple of months if adultery were a capital offense. They could all add up the number of chicks they have all dated that didn't eventually cheat or dump them for a higher status cock, and it would add up to a number between zero and zero.
Now, on the other hand, one of my long time friends has it all. he is objectively super good looking, makes a fuck ton of money, and his game is probably tighter than some of the most respected guys writing about it. Let's just say his wife hasn't had sex nearly as many times as he had since they met. Hell, I know of at least one chick that thought she was his girl friend for two weeks until his phone rang and he was like "hey, quiet, my girl friend is calling me" (the chick told me about it, not him). His wife is about a 7.5 after child birth, was a about a 8.5 before. He stopped fucking other chicks after his son was born, but only because he wants his son to grow up in a stable house hold. Sometimes I wonder if his fidelity will lead his wife to get over confident and act like every other hypergamous sloot.
that girl in the video is fucking annoying ^
I've found that if I act nicer that I get women telling me things like, "you are so nice for a guy who looks like you do." They expect me to be a prick. I think if you are good looking, the idea is to be nice, but not needy. When I speak to a hot chick, I expect them to be a bitch, but when they are nice, I have almost an instant attraction.
Quote: (06-09-2012 04:29 AM)P Dog Wrote:
Quote: (06-09-2012 03:26 AM)houston Wrote:
^^Tall, white guys have it pretty easy with white girls who are into that look. You don't even have to look that good. Just be tall and white.
The majority of tall white guys are chodes and have no game, just like all the other guys.
I'd guess the majority of guys that say tall white guys have it easy are not tall white guys.
Hotwheels~Tall white guy
Quote: (06-09-2012 11:08 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:
Quote: (06-09-2012 04:29 AM)P Dog Wrote:
Quote: (06-09-2012 03:26 AM)houston Wrote:
^^Tall, white guys have it pretty easy with white girls who are into that look. You don't even have to look that good. Just be tall and white.
The majority of tall white guys are chodes and have no game, just like all the other guys.
I'd guess the majority of guys that say tall white guys have it easy are not tall white guys.
Hotwheels~Tall white guy
I think only celebs and male models have it easy. I feel like I have a slight advantage when I'm the tallest in a group out at a bar. It's really only a confidence boost though, your extra gravity isn't going to drop their pants.
Some tall white guys have game and some don't. It's like saying that tall black guys are better basketball players. It's not always true, it just depends. What matters most is how much Game they have!
Size and color are factors, but not nearly as big a factor as their game.
Size and color are factors, but not nearly as big a factor as their game.
Quote: (10-03-2011 01:23 AM)scorpio Wrote:
List of grievances:
- Getting shit-tested by girls you have no interest in.
I've been shocked at how many shit tests I've been given by girls I'm not interested in. Never took it as a good looks thing. What's the thinking on that one? They're trying to look tough because you're out of their league?
I'm a good looking guy (hit the gym, differently style of hair, nice teeth, nice clothes) and women come to me a lot of the time. I was sitting at a table last night smoking a cig when one came up to me and called me 'joe cool'.. I didn't say a work just DHV while my friend who has decent game said talked his mouth off calling her beautiful etc,. I got the number and the BJ he got nothing
Anyone have tips on making girls who are intimidated by your looks feel more comfortable? Their shyness is funny at first but becomes annoying when you're going for the bang and it proceeds at a glacial pace.
Lets see, none at all.
If you have good looks then you have won the game of life, period. You do not have to work as hard or anything. THE ONLY disadvantage I can think of is that majority of all good looking guys I have met were less likely to become players and more likely to settle down. These guys had nothing to prove to the world or anyone, the whole lifestyle of becoming a player got old to them and they lived their player years in high school. A lot of my friends who were considered pretty boys when they were young got married really quick (at the age of 22 or so) to an attractive girl. None of my childhood friends everyone considered attractive pursued the player lifestyle. Maybe there is some psychology involved behind that.
If you have good looks then you have won the game of life, period. You do not have to work as hard or anything. THE ONLY disadvantage I can think of is that majority of all good looking guys I have met were less likely to become players and more likely to settle down. These guys had nothing to prove to the world or anyone, the whole lifestyle of becoming a player got old to them and they lived their player years in high school. A lot of my friends who were considered pretty boys when they were young got married really quick (at the age of 22 or so) to an attractive girl. None of my childhood friends everyone considered attractive pursued the player lifestyle. Maybe there is some psychology involved behind that.
I see in the past pages this has turned into a race thread. In my travel experiences (me being an Italian and Spaniard mix), in the US if you look good you look good, no questions asked. A good looking Black guy is just as well off as a good looking White guy. In other countries (especially Italy and Spain), race will play a bigger role in women finding you attractive but in the US it is all about other things. In my stay in Santa Monica, I managed to see good looking Black, Asian, Brown (could have been mexican or arab) guys date pretty looking girls from other races.
In fact, on a blog I read this experiment they ran on beautifulpeople.com (link was on some other dating site) where this Indian guy managed to get more likes, winks, messages, and girls checking him out than a lot of the other guys who were on that site.
In fact, on a blog I read this experiment they ran on beautifulpeople.com (link was on some other dating site) where this Indian guy managed to get more likes, winks, messages, and girls checking him out than a lot of the other guys who were on that site.
Quote: (10-10-2011 10:08 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:Well, I'm a bad looking guy with a pretty good track record.
Show me a BAD LOOKING guy who get's laid with model's cause of his tight game and I will be his disciple for life!
It's a lot easier to date way out of your league by being a big fish in small pond, catering to a niche market in that pond. So I moved to SEA and date girls who like westerners. Don't let anyone tell you it's like shooting fish in a barrel. For me it's not. There were many nights where I literally could not attract attention from the hookers in the hooker bars. Even my girlfriends call me ugly to my face. When I refer to myself as handsome my girlfriends burst out laughing. Being short and balding and ugly is a barrier, even here. But, it's doable.
There is a niche market of girls who'll not only date an older ugly guy, but actually fall in love with him. And it gets better. I'm pretty well an expert at this point in converting attraction into full blown servitude. I routinely get girls to move in with me on the first date, and live with me for a year or two, acting as my full time personal assistant.
Five girls did that so far, and the current has been under my roof for 1.7 years - since she was a 21 year old virgin. Before she moved in we dated while another young girl of nineteen was under my roof. Most guys would call my current live in an 8. When I met her she could even be granted a more generous number. And I've dated some of the hottest girls around in other cities too - stunners such that wherever we go the girl would attract attention. I got a kick out of it and would often dress them up in French maid outfits, or other slut attire. Even gave one a dog collar. No panties allowed, of course.
My favorites would give me blow jobs in taxi cabs. You know you are alive when something as mundane as a taxi ride becomes a world class thrill. My favorite girl even fucked me in one, as a way to show how happy she was to see me after my trip to visit my other girl in another town. Easy to do if the girl is on top. I've found that taxi drivers tend to just mind their own business. I like pulling up beside buses though. Give the passengers a little peep show.
And about 9 years ago I have an intense passionate fling with a bona fide 10. A 10 who is a genius. I'm not saying that just cause I was into her - she was more than a head turner. People would do double takes and triple takes as they passed her in the street. People would glance at her while passing, stop fully, do a double take. Stop again and do a triple take. Shockingly stunning. And possibly the worlds best lay. She would have multiple orgasms while giving head. We talked of marriage for a while there. She's a 30 year old lawyer now. I dated her when she was 21.
I love 21.
I will always love 21.
But even more I love 19.
My aim in life is to always have people assume that the girl I'm with MUST be a prostitute. It's been working well so far. If my girl doesn't get hate stares from the Matrons when we go out, I know I'm doing it wrong. People should be shocked by the company I keep. Older women should hate my girl, and the hot girls should want to gather around her in the disco to form a hot chick club.
Man, I'm telling you, that's the life. When the hottest chick in the hot chick club dotes on you like you were a god, and grinds all over you at the bar, and later goes on to have screaming sex with you that the whole village can hear. Being the talk of the town for scandals is the way to live.
My current girl isn't as scandalous, but I've got to say that youth and beauty counts for a lot. Seeing her naked astride me, or underneath, a well of passionate emotion bursts out from me. Just because she's hot. Never gets old. And she keeps getting hornier every day. I'm happy just to stay home, watch TV, work on the computer, go to the gym or hit the heavy bag occasionally, fuck, and eat her cooking.
I could not imagine ever again not having a young and hot girlfriend. At least one. I don't care if I get in a fire and become horribly disfigured, I WILL find a way to maintain this. Forever.
The girls keep getting older, but the girls keep staying the same age.
I have no idea how to judge male attractiveness, and therefore have no way to tell how good looking I am. I'm really not sure.
I have been told I'm much better looking in person than in pictures though, which obviously sucks for online.
Wish I could get an objective consensus.
I have been told I'm much better looking in person than in pictures though, which obviously sucks for online.
Wish I could get an objective consensus.
Quote: (06-08-2012 11:50 PM)soup Wrote:
Quote: (10-04-2011 07:09 PM)Mace Wrote:
For good looking guys it's all about FAG game - Fuck-Up Avoidance Game. Don't say anything stupid.
Here's a solid example.
She was already into him, it was up to him not to fuck it up by saying something stupid. Solid FAG game in play.
On their respective looks scales, he way out-ranks her. It's just a slaughter. The script is completely flipped.
It's funny, because now she is in the position that most of us are in, and her game is terrible.
Imagine one of us going to dinner with a girl and ordering her a shot before dinner and then saying "You are so cute.." and "I'm trying to get you drunk."
Holy shit, I know this guy in real life! That blind date thing was 11 years ago he said.
He is really into God and leads youth groups (but for people in or just out of college). Everyone looks up to him for leadership and guidance. He is in the perfect place to pull.
In the gym I workout at, there is a Bible verse painted on the wall:
Matthew 4:19
"Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
This guy has created his own fish bowl to fish from. He still has the looks btw.
Quote: (11-11-2012 01:59 PM)xsplat Wrote:
Quote: (10-10-2011 10:08 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:Well, I'm a bad looking guy with a pretty good track record.
Show me a BAD LOOKING guy who get's laid with model's cause of his tight game and I will be his disciple for life!
It's a lot easier to date way out of your league by being a big fish in small pond, catering to a niche market in that pond. So I moved to SEA and date girls who like westerners. Don't let anyone tell you it's like shooting fish in a barrel. For me it's not. There were many nights where I literally could not attract attention from the hookers in the hooker bars. Even my girlfriends call me ugly to my face. When I refer to myself as handsome my girlfriends burst out laughing. Being short and balding and ugly is a barrier, even here. But, it's doable.
There is a niche market of girls who'll not only date an older ugly guy, but actually fall in love with him. And it gets better. I'm pretty well an expert at this point in converting attraction into full blown servitude. I routinely get girls to move in with me on the first date, and live with me for a year or two, acting as my full time personal assistant.
Five girls did that so far, and the current has been under my roof for 1.7 years - since she was a 21 year old virgin. Before she moved in we dated while another young girl of nineteen was under my roof. Most guys would call my current live in an 8. When I met her she could even be granted a more generous number. And I've dated some of the hottest girls around in other cities too - stunners such that wherever we go the girl would attract attention. I got a kick out of it and would often dress them up in French maid outfits, or other slut attire. Even gave one a dog collar. No panties allowed, of course.
My favorites would give me blow jobs in taxi cabs. You know you are alive when something as mundane as a taxi ride becomes a world class thrill. My favorite girl even fucked me in one, as a way to show how happy she was to see me after my trip to visit my other girl in another town. Easy to do if the girl is on top. I've found that taxi drivers tend to just mind their own business. I like pulling up beside buses though. Give the passengers a little peep show.
And about 9 years ago I have an intense passionate fling with a bona fide 10. A 10 who is a genius. I'm not saying that just cause I was into her - she was more than a head turner. People would do double takes and triple takes as they passed her in the street. People would glance at her while passing, stop fully, do a double take. Stop again and do a triple take. Shockingly stunning. And possibly the worlds best lay. She would have multiple orgasms while giving head. We talked of marriage for a while there. She's a 30 year old lawyer now. I dated her when she was 21.
I love 21.
I will always love 21.
But even more I love 19.
My aim in life is to always have people assume that the girl I'm with MUST be a prostitute. It's been working well so far. If my girl doesn't get hate stares from the Matrons when we go out, I know I'm doing it wrong. People should be shocked by the company I keep. Older women should hate my girl, and the hot girls should want to gather around her in the disco to form a hot chick club.
Man, I'm telling you, that's the life. When the hottest chick in the hot chick club dotes on you like you were a god, and grinds all over you at the bar, and later goes on to have screaming sex with you that the whole village can hear. Being the talk of the town for scandals is the way to live.
My current girl isn't as scandalous, but I've got to say that youth and beauty counts for a lot. Seeing her naked astride me, or underneath, a well of passionate emotion bursts out from me. Just because she's hot. Never gets old. And she keeps getting hornier every day. I'm happy just to stay home, watch TV, work on the computer, go to the gym or hit the heavy bag occasionally, fuck, and eat her cooking.
I could not imagine ever again not having a young and hot girlfriend. At least one. I don't care if I get in a fire and become horribly disfigured, I WILL find a way to maintain this. Forever.
The girls keep getting older, but the girls keep staying the same age.
No offense - but it doesn't sound like game for me when I provide a 21 old girl a roof in a poor SEA country.
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Quote: (11-11-2012 05:29 PM)Mike OBrien Wrote:
No offense - but it doesn't sound like game for me when I provide a 21 old girl a roof in a poor SEA country.
Then I doubt you've ever lived in the same cities I have.
There is a ton of competition here, even with the locals, and there is also a ton of money. Any hot girl is going to be getting dozens if not hundreds of very attractive offers, from handsome young men with cars money and the intention to marry. My current was being wooed by a TV personality and several very rich men. One of her suitors is a handsome young halfie who speaks Indonesian. And of course she had a laptop full of internet suitors. On any day she could cruise the beach and pick up a hot surfer boy. And probably get a marriage proposal that way easily enough.
You think that a hot girl just goes around in a state of desparation?
Ever hit a disco as the ugliest man in the club with the hottest girl in the club on your arm? You think you get that handed out to you at the airport for being white?
You think you get a strict religious girls virginity when she refuses any sex before marriage by offering her a bed to sleep in?
Just what level of poverty do you imagine exists out here, anyway? Did you know that there are automobiles and cell phones and that there is indoor plumbing out here now? How much do you think is the going rate for a night of sex? Five bucks?
It's up to about $150/night, plus the man is expected to provide the drugs.
But the non-pros are so starving that they'll give it up for clean sheets as long as the guy has clean white skin?
Do you have any idea how much the going rate is for virginity? You think you get a hotties virginity just by offering her a roof? Are you fucking insane, or just stupid? Girls have a keen valuation for their sexuality. My girl (who grew up with a strict religious upbringing and graduated her university with honors as the class valedictorian) had planned to trade full lifetime provisioning for it - and was holding out very strictly. But you imagine she was desparate even for a roof.
And hot prostitutes are not even all that easy to find. And when you find em they aren't cheap. I don't know what you think it means to be in the "third world" nowadays. Hand some girl five bucks at the road stand stall and take her home, even if you are a fat fuck? Ya, in the deep interior of Burma 15 years ago, maybe.
How do you think it works out here, you just trade food for sex? Great! Please come out here and get me women then! If that's the reality, I've been living in the wrong reality all this time.
I've been in SEA for 12 years, but I'm so blind! Come and teach me.
So you read about some guy some where who spent 10 days in Pucket, and fucked a bunch of ugly bar ho skanks. And you think that has anything to do with dating the college chicks and lawyers daughters and shop managers out here.
Tell yourself that. You'll feel real good about yourself. It also makes for a great fantasy. But it has nothing to do with my life. Did you miss the part about where I have difficulty getting attention in a fucking whore house? Not only do I rarely get any IOIs in clubs, I've had nights where I couldn't find any interest in a whore house.
You'd have to have been out here to understand how that can work. Even the whores here don't just fuck for money - not the cute ones anyway. But I don't even fuck girls who have whores for friends. In fact I tend to even stay away from disco chicks.
But if it's girls who are trading money for sex that you are interested in, you'll have to come up with more green than just a roof. The pros will exchange figures with each other. They usually have six boyfriends all sending them money at the same time, but if they are actually living with the guy will try to command about $3000/month in Bali.
Man, what a world that would be, if hot young girls had no clue as to the valuation of their sex. Oh, wait, that wouldn't work, would it. BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING COMPETITION, YOU MORON.
Guys who have no clue seem to be the ones with the biggest opinion of their ignorance.
I think most decent looking guys can sway 1-2 points in different girls eyes, just because you have "one of those looks" that particular girls is into.
I've turned heads of some very attractive females sometimes, then got not even slightly noticed by others that were less beautiful.
I think the difficult aspects /disadvantages of being good looking are:
1) Your game better match your good looks if you even have needed any. If you come off too "gamish" and otherwise would not need it, the girl, be it a 6-7-8-or 9 will pick up on that shit and think your "quirky" for some hidden, bad reason, and might mark you a personality disorder creep. game over.
2) Just don't say anything stupid as previously stated holds true. I think being good looking helps a girl decide for sure, earlier on during the 1st acquaintance if she is going to bang you or not. So you'd really have to f-it up bad for something to not come of it.
3) In a group of girls, their rationalization hamsters will all be going full tilt, so if you're good looking, and not playin a total joker role, you'll get more group-approval and faster lays. Advantage? yes, but if you're a good lookin guy, you may also get picked apart more thoroughly than your average guy would.
I would say there are some disadvantages, but obviously easier to get by.
I've turned heads of some very attractive females sometimes, then got not even slightly noticed by others that were less beautiful.
I think the difficult aspects /disadvantages of being good looking are:
1) Your game better match your good looks if you even have needed any. If you come off too "gamish" and otherwise would not need it, the girl, be it a 6-7-8-or 9 will pick up on that shit and think your "quirky" for some hidden, bad reason, and might mark you a personality disorder creep. game over.
2) Just don't say anything stupid as previously stated holds true. I think being good looking helps a girl decide for sure, earlier on during the 1st acquaintance if she is going to bang you or not. So you'd really have to f-it up bad for something to not come of it.
3) In a group of girls, their rationalization hamsters will all be going full tilt, so if you're good looking, and not playin a total joker role, you'll get more group-approval and faster lays. Advantage? yes, but if you're a good lookin guy, you may also get picked apart more thoroughly than your average guy would.
I would say there are some disadvantages, but obviously easier to get by.
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