[Simeon_Strangelight]

Bastard Sword is the best example of why you absolutely must not invite non-Europeans into European-founded countries:



America is a constitution man!

Liberia has the same constitution - go live there.

Only because you see some SJWs since 2013, then you must say: "Fuck it - let's kill those White motherfuckers with mass migration - they are too degenerate for 2-3 decades."

[T and A Man]

I'm not saying whites aren't responsible for degeneracy, but they still prop up white societies.

Your conflating the talented 10% of Asians, with the entire 100% of white people, of course there will be a light on poor performers of whites. Luckily we don't have that many Asian proles, otherwise our countries would be just like Asian shit holes.

But one thing does remain fact, despite the degenerate whites. Once the population shifts, there'll be no such thing as white countries.

No, the argument about IRT's coming here isn't retarded, they are coming here for a better life. We provide a better life, by the talented folks who create, and more importantly, the white proles who aren't inclined to destroy it.

This 10% diaspora know their own proles will destroy it.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Or putting it in the example of UK school pictures:


Some immigration - still a nice Western country at 1988.

2018:


The reverse of 1988.

Britain WILL BE DESTROYED EITHER WAY - the British culture, tribe, customs, dominance will be wiped out even if the end result is somewhat functional. And it's not - London is minority White and has record numbers of acid attacks, rapes, gang rapes, knife attacks, massive murder rate, assaults, terrorist attacks - from car Jihadis to suicide bombings, genital mutilations, sharia police.

That will await Toronto as well as others.

Cultural marxism made it feasible in tandem with globohomo corporations and media to make the destruction of the West possible.

There is a way back from marxism, there is no place back when you have become Brazil or Mumbai.


Salvageable.


Not salvageable.

So you can shove your twisted incomplete stats and cherry-picked results in your ass. But you can count yourself lucky - Soros, Merkel, Cuck-Trudeau are on your side - just don't pretend to be "Red Pill".

[iop890]

(08-20-2018 03:12 AM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  

I've posted charts that describe how white Americans are a paltry 17% of STEM graduates

I've already told you you've misunderstood that chart.

[T and A Man]

Hehe, I just read the detail of that chart.

The columns add up to 120%.

Asian STEM prowess everyone.

[EndsExpect]

(08-18-2018 01:15 PM)Laner Wrote:  

The Chinese will make strange bedfellows here for sure. But within one to two generations, they are playing hockey and trying to get a government job just like the rest of the lazy Canadians.
If immigration slowed down all across the board, it would give Canadians time to see and absorb who works and who doesn't. I already have my opinions, and so do the Asians I spend a lot of time with.
- Cantonese hate Mainlanders. They tell all sorts of wild tales (such as Rubeboys slave labor buddy).
- Indo Canadians make such stupid amounts of money that their kids get bored, act out inner city American movies and roll to clubs 50 deep.
- None of these groups, outside of some Indo Canadian women, love the gheys or trannies. The Chinese were nearly the ONLY ones to protest the school board till 2am. It was a shouting match with liberal progressive, holier than thou schoolboard members shaking in their boots. No re election for them, and will probably mean a 100% Chinese city council.
- It was shown by the numbers that foreign money only effected a small portion of the real estate market. It turned out to be a laughing matter to the NDP who are about to impose a Chinese Head Tax out here.
- The Chinese in my neighborhood took after the Honduran refugees back in the early 2000's. Those crazy fuckers would punch out a 90 yo lady for her jade bangle. Chinese dudes patrolled the streets with hockey sticks til the Hondurans went away.
- Canada is retarded if it thinks it can let in 400,000 immigrants a year and not destroy the fabric of the cities. Those people might be able to live with native Canadians, but most CANNOT live with each other.

Do you remember Vancouver in the late 90's before the Chinese moved in? That place was a complete shithole. Used to go up there in College to drink.

I didn't go back until maybe 2008 at it was a completely different city. Chinese money rebuilt everything. The food is even better.

As a general observation... when a significant amount of east asian women move to a western city... do the white girls who already live there step up their game? Do women actually look at the sexual market place and think these things through? Or do they just float along like jellyfish hoping the currents take them someplace nice?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-20-2018 05:48 AM)iop890 Wrote:  

(08-20-2018 03:12 AM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  

I've posted charts that describe how white Americans are a paltry 17% of STEM graduates

I've already told you you've misunderstood that chart.

Bastard Logic follows:


This chart is representative of stable households and not your stupid divorce charts when other tribes don't even marry. Aside from that some couples stay together without marriage. It still counts as a father in the household. Plus - let's see how the Asians will fare after 2-3 generations since some tribes (Indian women especially) take up to feminism like a moth to fire.

And here the chart you low-tier light-bulb misunderstood:



Do you think that blacks and American Indians are 11 or 14% of ALL STEM DEGREES????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That number just says how high the percentage is of STEM degrees in that specific ethnicity - so 11% of the black graduates being STEM. 31% of the Asian graduates are STEM - it does not mean that 31% of ALL STEM GRADUATES ARE ASIAN!

So some 5 mio. Asians vs 250 mio. Whites - take 31% of the Asian students graduating vs 17% of the group graduating that is 5.000% bigger!

That is the power of Indian logic! He actually believed that 14% of the American STEM graduates are American Indians and 15% were Kona's brothers. They are just 1.3 mio. of Americans, but make up 15% of all STEM graduates in the US???????????? And it did not bother you that the total number was 120 in the graph and 17 the average? 17% is the average graduates who choose STEM.

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Go back to studying the field-shitting graph - because that is correct.

And go and argue with the Japanese who have millions of shut-ins, porn-addicted men as well as women who fuck around and postpone childbirth until their mid 30s in Japan! Go and tell the Japanese that they should let in glorious fertile Arabs and Pakistanis, because those useless shut-ins don't get it. They will tell you to fuck off, because they are their shut-ins, their non-traditional women.

All those mass migration arguments coupled with idiotic twisted low-wattage mental acrobatics are just that - bullshit - the Brown Pill that is filled with shit and nothing more.

[Leonard D Neubache]

#CivilizedBehaviour

#STEMskills

#TeamIndia can't catch a break.

[fokker]

[Leonard D Neubache]

(08-20-2018 04:25 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

I'm not saying whites aren't responsible for degeneracy, but they still prop up white societies.

Your conflating the talented 10% of Asians, with the entire 100% of white people, of course there will be a light on poor performers of whites. Luckily we don't have that many Asian proles, otherwise our countries would be just like Asian shit holes.

But one thing does remain fact, despite the degenerate whites. Once the population shifts, there'll be no such thing as white countries.

No, the argument about IRT's coming here isn't retarded, they are coming here for a better life. We provide a better life, by the talented folks who create, and more importantly, the white proles who aren't inclined to destroy it.

This 10% diaspora know their own proles will destroy it.

Only sending their best? Just the top 10%?

In that unlikely outcome:

India floods us with 132 million.
China floods us with 133 million.
Africa floods us with 121 million.
South America floods us with 42 million.
Middle East floods us with 41 million.

Conservatively speaking this is half the number of the total population of white people in the whole world, and it doesn't even account for a single wife, son or daughter.

Many white nations are already teetering on unstoppable demographic submersion.

To accept that even the "top 10 percent" of the non-white world are a reasonable addition to the West is to accept that the West is gone and it will never be coming back.

Corporations lobby governments to allow them in because they will accept slave conditions and then simply break the laws to make ends meet, whether by tax evasion, working two jobs and sleeping during one of them (while someone native picks up the slack and says nothing for fear of being called a racist), dodging rent by illegally packing fellow travellers into apartments like sardines, flat out criminal activities like drug dealing, or any other number of treacherous "fuck everyone except me" behaviors because "it's still better than being back in (x)".

Meanwhile we're told "they do the jobs White people wont" as if market forces for salaries were suddenly a ghost of the past and there was a universal law set in stone that corporations were not allowed to offer more than $5 an hour to scrub toilets while maintaining billion dollar profits.

Shit, at least back in the union days the scabs were still fighting under your flag when push came to shove. Now the scabs come from all over the world. Thankyou globalism. It's not international slavery if you give them the option to go home to a place they'll do anything to avoid.

[MANic]

The irony is lost on the neo-nazis in this thread. They berate "ethnics" for the lack of development of their "own" countries and proclaim western superiority on the basis of an existent developmental differential which in the case of much of Asia was caused by western atrocity and theft.

Once striving metropoles were turned into barren wastelands. Industry utilised for enrichment and destroyed where misaligned with colonial profit-motive. Your grand empire built on the blood and toil of others - a reckless mass transfer of rescources.

Don't misattribute ascendancy to greater inherent ingenuity. Military supremacy and fiendish tact were the catalyst of invention. Whilst the Indian or Chinese intellectual had precious little spare time to devote to higher pursuits (survival became a primary concern, in light of the incessant theft).

The tides are changing and power shifting... fight for what you wish, but your domestic squabbles cant stop the macro dominance-shift

[Thot Leader]

(08-20-2018 04:16 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I'm going to put this here for the white dudes because it will put some shit into perspective.

More than anything the capacity to build a first world nation and the loss of the thing that carries it is shame.


In Japan you can leave your bicycle unlocked anywhere you like, just as you could in any 1950's white nation. This is not because stealing is against the law. That's pretty much the law everywhere. It's because Japanese people internalise and externalise shame for stealing. Not a fear of the law.


What they don't understand and apparently never will is that the entire picture is driven by shame for behavior that reduces the society to a place where you need psychotic cops and bike locks.

You will never see this more starkly than when you see an African American woman shreiking about how the wacis' white cops had no business shooting her darling son Dindu who just robbed a family and was holding them at gunpoint.

Take the same scenario with a white woman and even to this day nine times out of ten you will see a woman wracked with shame that she raised a child who's life amounted to a massive negative account owed to society.

When did black communities in America have that shame?

What happened when they lost it?

It is that horrid puritan shame that builds first world societies and its absence that destroys it.


Go to China. Same IQ. Same tech. What is the difference in their behaviour?
Go to Japan. Same IQ. Same tech. Totally different society. Why?

Are you saying China and Japan are totally different due to a lack of shame on the part of the Chinese? I haven’t been to either, but based on what I’ve seen and heard, this makes sense. Many Chinese, even ones with money, seem to act without self-awareness, ie shamelessly. Barbarians--I’ve heard the Japanese and South Koreans view them this way. Great question, I’ll be thinking about it for a while. Like most large-scale sociological problems I’m sure the answer is very complicated and includes genetics, environment, government, history/culture, and other factors.

I don’t think the Chinese are entirely without shame. Considering how poor and overcrowded China is, it’s still relatively safe. An unlocked bike would be a lot safer in a Chinese neighborhood where the average income is $2 a day than it would be in say Jamaica where the income is the same. But yeah, they don’t seem to have shame or honor the way the Japanese or South Koreans do.

I do think IQ and other genetic traits pertaining to disposition have something to do with our capacity for shame. Shame-based societies tend to be higher IQ, and the societies where people seem to have no shame--not for rape, not for shitting in the streets, not for father bastard children at random--are all low IQ.

What is shame? It is sensing another person's disgust for your own behavior or attitude. In other words, shame requires empathy. The environmental pressures of Eurasia required people to develop a capacity for empathy in order to survive an ice age and reproduce. Africans never needed to develop empathy to the same extent. This doesn’t mean blacks are incapable of shame. They seemed to thrive under the (white man’s) Christian value system of Rockwell era USA. Like discovering the wheel or written language or agriculture, they just needed a little guidance

@ 3:10

[T and A Man]

"proclaim western superiority on the basis of an existent developmental differential which in the case of much of Asia was caused by western atrocity and theft."

Talk about making word salad to apoear intelligent, but making no sense what so ever.

[MANic]

It's fairly simple boyo.

Neo-nazi : "we was kangz because of our dat der intellect... looks hows nice our cities are.
Dem asians, indinans r all stupid"

Meanwhile, source of wealth and catalyst of most development = largely wealth transfer owing to superiority in a single metric (military).

[RichieP]

IMO look at the world not 'as it should be'... but as it actually is.

So a group of immigrants (likely 2nd generation) did well, and would now prefer poorer refugees not move in next door. OK.

Morally right? Morally wrong? Meh. Irrelevant IMO.

My view: just focus on understanding trends (waves) and surfing them. Don't complain that the sea is dead here, or waves too big over there.

Unless you're a senior minister or civil servant, or want to drum up a national movement, you can't affect policy one iota anyway.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Are waves formed by a massive number of tiny, sympathetic forces?

Or are they formed by magic?

Wait. I know. They're formed by a senior minister or civil servant making whooshing motions with his hands.

[SlickyBoy]

(08-18-2018 06:19 PM)Lowkey Wrote:  

Since the beggining of humanity people have migrated and exchanged information, mixed cultures or adapted certain influences from one another and placed it within their culture (NO, since the beginning of time there has been conflict, with winners and losers - not some happy clappy koombayah love fest.)

While i can understand not wanting muslims into one's land due to islam being a dangerous ideology, Still some guys don't seem to learn from history, When a minority moves in to a multi-racial place a they tend to mix and adapt heavily from their host culture after a few gernations or simply assimilate into non-existence if the host culture accepts this and encourages it (NO. Just like all relationships, there is no 50-50 solution. One group wins, the other submits, either by assimilation or extinction.)

That's what happened in America,Israel (FUCK NO. Israel is an artificial construct aided and abetted by massive political and financial interference - have you been moonlighting for Goldman Sachs?),Australia and other colonies. That's what happened pretty much in every country in at least one stage of their history. People in America during the potato famine didn't wan't Catholics and Irish immigrants in. They saw them as non-American, threatening or as competitors for low-wage jobs, But they were ultimately accepted and they have contributed a fair share to America (IF only all we had to worry about were a few drunk Irish guys. It's disappointing someone in this forum is seriously making the "all cultures are equal" canard. Somalis are not exactly Irishmen)

Call me crazy (blue pill will do for now) but i believe if we wan't too evade total destruction in this world(due to famine and other environmental crisis (LMAO!)) we have to mend our differences and look to the stars( Though islam and other bad third world mentalities has to be removed first). (Look all you want - but just watch you don't get your wallet stolen or your girl raped in the meantime.)

A good and positive global culture can be created with western culture as the basis and also with Asian work ethic, African spontaneity (you mean like what's happening in most of Africa right about now? Or just Zimbabwe?), the happy south american way of life (hello, Venezuela!), Middle eastern family values (vaginal circumcision and honor killings). The question is though is it worth removing all the world cultures and differences into one world culture (you don't get to pick the parts that you want when you let them all in), That's hard nut to crack and i'm not really sure and i'm also not for it.

But at the same time we have to unite for the future, We are all humans after all, What will we do when other hostile life organism and aliens come to finish us off? We can't unite then....(ok, I draw the line at space aliens... good day.)

[Bastard Sword]

(08-20-2018 04:18 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Bastard Sword is the best example of why you absolutely must not invite non-Europeans into European-founded countries:

Yeah, cause if they do, they'll start calling out worthless race trolls like you on internet forums. How could the white race survive such a thing?

Sloppy, I really don't care if I hurt your feelings. Problem is, you've barely offered a substantive argument this entire thread besides your autistic screeching. Your counterarguments have boiled down to the following;

-Minorities can never really be American (coming from a European guy who is not American and never will be)

-Minorities should never be allowed into the west (which is hilarious, because that's probably what an Anglo Saxon nativisit would have said about your own ancestors. It's also contemptible because millions of non-whites actually died fighting for empires like the British in the major world wars, contributing more to the west and to civilization than you ever will -- but of course that doesn't matter to someone like you).

-Lying and saying that I want to kill white people and destroy the west, even though at most I've just criticized aspects of white American culture. You've been called out for this ridiculous hypersensitivity in other threads as well, as I'm sure you remember--

- America was a white utopia before the 1960's where everyone got along and politicians were "plugged in" (despite there being massive resistance to European immigration).

-Massive race riots against these immigrants never happened -- they were just "satire" ( figure that one out)

- Because I disagree with you, I'm the "Rainbow Hitler" ().

All in all, you come off as an irrational, neurotic piece of shit -- I think there's a reason why most senior members regularly avoid your posts and place you on ignore. I'm sure me comparing you to a herpetic sore hurts, but it's true. Arguing with you is like arguing with an SJW, expect this nutjob replaces "cis-gender patriarchy" with "white genocide"

You and Leonard D Neubache have written something like ten posts per day, every day, for the last several years -- doing little more than bitching about minorities, hamstering about IQ, and plotting bizarre revenge fantasies where non-white immigrants are slaughtered en masse. The two of you have literally dedicated your lives to race trolling. Get off the computer, stop spending hours out of your day complaining about race, and do something productive with your lives. At least you aren't spending your free time writing hate posts about groups that include your own wife and children like Leonard does.

Leonard, I'm still waiting for you to respond to my original post -- why would you cohabit with a "foreign vulture" while despising her genetics and culture so much? If you're so interested in preserving the white race, why the fuck would you have Latino kids? The answer is that Sloppy Seconds and Leonard have no logical consistency to their beliefs and they change depending on how the other person is feeling on that particular day. I can't even imagine having a father who would literally write nine internet posts per day about how racially inferior my mother and I am.

[doc holliday]

Funniest thing here is that most these dudes doing the autistic screech about the death of White civilization aren't doing the one thing that they could actually do to help stem this problem, which would be to get married to a nice white girl and pump out a bunch of cute white kids. I guess Leonard has kids but his kids are half Juans and/or Juanitas so as far as propagating the white species, he's an utter failure. The others would rather just chase sluts, swipe right on Tindle in lesser developed countries rather than to become an adult, have kids and raise them in a traditional Irish, Polish, Italian, whichever great culture you might belong to and produce some adults who could keep civilization intact. Funny thing here, all you guys would rather screech away and blame people like me for your woes rather than actually take some action and make your surroundings a decent place.

Then again, I don't know if I could imagine most of you guys being able to handle it. It would be comical to see a guy like SS (Sloppy Seconds lol) having a family. Oh well, just enjoy the decline, keep pounding them sluts and keep up the good fight by posting on RVF.

[Labienus]

I don't think many people here are for zero non-white migration. I, for one, am fine with some non-white immigration to Canada. However, it's fundamentally a question of scale. Welcoming 10k non-white immigrants per year to Canada would be mostly fine (I wouldn't take Muslims though) but the 300k per year (most of which is non-white) we are currently taking is suicidal, especially considering our birth rate.

[Laner]

Where do all of us muts fit in here. Those like me who are mixed race, married to a mixed race, with a super mixed race kid. I guess we don't stand a chance, especially my wife since she is also an immigrant into Canada.

I'll say it again, if immigration was slowed down for a little bit, we could probably get a handle on it real quick. But it feels like these clowns in charge want to dump so many in at once that it causes chaos among the whole.

Up until recently, I had never met an immigrant with gimme mentality. It was startling to meet one recently who arrived last year and is now on long term disability for his speech. He had a cleft palate! But in Canada in 2018 being an immigrant who is hard to understand entitle you to a life of freeloading. What a joke.

One of the only saving graces of Canada is the rural areas. These places are stuck in the 80's still, even with the internet. But even this is changing. My cousin in SK does crop insurance adjustment and is saying that more and more of the farms he deals with are Chinese and Indian. The Indians work their own land, but the Chinese just buy the land and lease it back to the local farmers. He gets A LOT more work these days as every storm leads to some type of insurance inquiry. They don't necessarily pay out, but he still drives 100k km a year looking at farms. Not good for the long run, as anyone who lives in BC and deals with ICBC insurance can explain. The system was ripe for scams and the Indians exploited the shit out of it.

So hey, even if this white thing doesn't pan out, or it does, most of Canada's barely habitable production land will be in the hands of foreigners anyways. So if those 20% white people become an issue we can just starve them out.

[FrenchCanadian]

some people here are racist af

[Thot Leader]

(08-20-2018 03:10 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Funniest thing here is that most these dudes doing the autistic screech about the death of White civilization aren't doing the one thing that they could actually do to help stem this problem, which would be to get married to a nice white girl and pump out a bunch of cute white kids. I guess Leonard has kids but his kids are half Juans and/or Juanitas so as far as propagating the white species, he's an utter failure. The others would rather just chase sluts, swipe right on Tindle in lesser developed countries rather than to become an adult, have kids and raise them in a traditional Irish, Polish, Italian, whichever great culture you might belong to and produce some adults who could keep civilization intact. Funny thing here, all you guys would rather screech away and blame people like me for your woes rather than actually take some action and make your surroundings a decent place.

I'm sure you've noticed the common thread here and throughout much of this forum is that this dream is no longer feasible for the vast majority of white men, mathematically speaking. Today's white, western women aren't really interested in settling down and raising a family (at least not interested in a realistic way; the may be "interested" insofar as wanting to settle down at 35+). Women are however willing to fuck.

You claim that the white men on this forum bitching about not being able to find wives are wasting our time, and we should be out there "taking some action". But you don't explain what this action might entail? One can only assume action = running game. Either that or action = move to a non-western (usually meaning non-white) country. Those are the only two realistic possibilities, and as such they are the main focus of this forum (Game and Travel).

The principles of game are effective for getting bangs. They are not (in many people's opinion, mine inc.) effective for getting wives. And unless a man is wiling to look outside the west (mainly to non-white countries) he is unlikely to find a marriageable woman.

And no, we are not able to "make" women want to be wives. Men do not have this power, no matter how wealthy/handsome/successful/good at running game we are. Women can only be made wife/mother material by the family that raises her and by the culture she grows up in, period.

[Parras]

Most white countries aren't going extinct because of immigrants.

White countries just aren't having enough babies. Things like birth control, women voting, women leaving traditional values and going to college and having babies later in life, women being "independent", planned parenthood, people choosing to have kids in their 30's because of careers, is what is driving the insanely low birthrate. I don't want to hear about this "genocide" nonsense. Whites are pretty much just killing themselves. If they keep going down this path, they will eventually go extinct themselves in 100 years even if they bring in no immigrants. Sure you'll be homogeneous, but you will be extinct either way. Don't hate on these other countries who just flat out testosterone all the white countries.

To make up for this insanely low birthrate, white countries bring in immigrants to level off the birthrate. You want to have a country or not?

Japan is one of the few countries that refuses to bring in immigrants. Sure they are homogeneous, but their population is dying and the majority of their population are old people. That's a problem. Japan has a worse birthrate than even the US. In 100 years, Japan will be extinct if they follow in the same path. But hey they're homogeneous.

The argument about "white genocide" is insanely stupid. Whites are doing this to themselves. Don't hate on the traditional third world and developing countries who do things like family, manhood, and keeping women in check better than you.

[Labienus]

Nah Japan won't go extinct. As populations decline, more resources/space will be available and the birth rate will start going up again. We saw that after the Black Death in Europe, those who survived were much better off.