[Bastard Sword]

(08-19-2018 09:07 PM)Faust Wrote:  

That's a risk the American voter will willingly take. (And Canada too, in a few years. Nationalism is making a comeback everywhere, not just the US and Europe.)

But hey, look on the bright side. When you and all the other "indispensable" tech workers are deported, you'll be going back to an India that's a massive economic superpower thanks to all those returning STEM graduates, right? So it's not all bad news.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you're genuinely looking forward to a day when all non-whites get kicked out of America (wonder what guys like Roosh or, you know, all black people are going to do). Is this something you genuinely want to do?

I feel like I'd be safe -- I'm an American citizen, born and raised, which is more than I can say for your fellow WRT Sloppy Seconds.

No one is advocating for all non-whites or even all Indian tech workers to get deported -- least of all Trump and the Republican establishment. Trump has plenty of business contacts in India, loves promoting Indians in his administration, and is actively trying to make the green card process easier for Indians in India. The guy isn't against skilled immigration at all, he just wants to streamline the process and trim away its abuses. On top of that many of his Republican donors are associated with companies that rely heavily on skilled immigrant labor in some regard of the other.

I just thought it was hypocritical as fuck how white guys were talking about the Chinese being a threat while their communities are in the process of destroying themselves.

I'm fairly comfortable in my position in American society and in life -- talk about the "great sending backening" is just masturbatory nonsense and we all know it. You're not going to deport tens of millions of immigrants, it's simply not going to happen. Trump and the right just know how to throw bones to people like you to keep getting your votes.

[nomadbrah]

[eL-JJ]

^^

[Bastard Sword]

That's a map of the 2004 tsunami...



Aping SJW tactics to the letter, down to the fake news!

This thread has been the local WRT's proving my point over and over again. No genuine counterarguments, no sources, no facts, just endless butthurt and weird deportation fantasies. If politics is a horseshoe, you guys and the most extreme SJWs are the two closely touching ends.

[nomadbrah]

I've been made aware that the above map might be fake news. I've been had by those dastardly rascals at Reddit again.

This is not fake tho.

[Labienus]

(08-19-2018 12:28 AM)Parras Wrote:  

I used to work with a guy who came from Canada to the states on vacation and he told me that there were a lot of Chinese, but not nearly as much as there were Indians.

He told me that there were tons and tons of Indians and that they were really low class and ghetto.

Can any Canadian guys confirm this?

I can confirm this. They've transformed Brampton, Ontario into a third world shithole. That place is basically New Mumbai.

White people are fleeing that place and no one I know wants to live there.

[Parras]

(08-19-2018 01:14 PM)scotian Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 12:28 AM)Parras Wrote:  

I used to work with a guy who came from Canada to the states on vacation and he told me that there were a lot of Chinese, but not nearly as much as there were Indians.

He told me that there were tons and tons of Indians and that they were really low class and ghetto.

Can any Canadian guys confirm this?

Are you talking about the casino Indians or the 7/11 Indians?

No idea.

He just told me that there were lots of Indians in Canada. Not sure what types of Indians but from India.

[Parras]

(08-19-2018 09:49 PM)Labienus Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 12:28 AM)Parras Wrote:  

I used to work with a guy who came from Canada to the states on vacation and he told me that there were a lot of Chinese, but not nearly as much as there were Indians.

He told me that there were tons and tons of Indians and that they were really low class and ghetto.

Can any Canadian guys confirm this?

I can confirm this. They've transformed Brampton, Ontario into a third world shithole. That place is basically New Mumbai.

White people are fleeing that place and no one I know wants to live there.

I can see it.

I just researched an Indian politician who just won to be in some sort of office in the city you just mentioned. I learn something new everyday.

[Labienus]

And Jagmeet Singh, the NDP leader won in Burnaby South in Vancouver. Big Sikh population.

But yeah, they all vote tribally.

[T and A Man]

It is entirely about mediocrity.

I'm a pretty serious player in the fintech space, the IRT's imported, into Australia anyway, are mediocre. The number I can count that are above average would be lucky to exceed one hand.

My wife is also of Indian heritage, so I know more than most.

We're not importing a skill we're lacking, we're importing a means to suppress wages.

We don't need these 'vast numbers' when they're mediocre bar the very few exceptions, particularly we are deploying local labor to non-productive bullshit jobs, such as baristas.

We don't need IRT's in the west for Facebook to exist, it can be coded from India, with IRT's staying there.

It is all about incentives, IRT's are incentivised to work for low wages in the western world because it is still a step up from where they come from.

They may be an unwilling pawn in the erosion of the hard fought claim of wage share vs profit share, however it's going to be part of the long term erosion of real wealth, and people look to lash out. History shows this.

The smug, entitled and racist attitudes that all non-whites show towards whites isn't a winning strategy. Throw in exclusionary employment and labor practices shown by racist non-whites in the firms our forefathers built isn't improving things.

And I say this because I am cautious what it will mean to my wife and kids.

And the impotent claim about the Hindus Valley 4,000 years ago. I wasn't alive then, but my forefathers changed their culture to improve things. Such an improvement that were the premier culture in the world, as evident by the observation of migration paths around the world.

It's simple, India is a mediocre country in 2018 because it's full of contemporary Indians and their concomitant culture. That's why all the IRT's are looking to flee to the west, rather than code Facebook from Bangalore.

[JWLZG]

(08-18-2018 08:04 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(08-18-2018 03:09 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

(08-18-2018 01:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^The banks and government wouldn't share your narrow minded opinion.

One of the major malls in Toronto, recently had a facelift. The shops are high end and the "normal people" certainly don't shop there.

It doesn't take a degree in economics to figure out who these shops are catering too.

This is globalization, I don't see the point of whining about it.

Is it narrow minded to believe what's good for governments and banks isn't good for people or a nation?

To believe in trying nationalism instead of just accepting globalism?

To believe that Chinese buying land and taking over parts of Canada is not good for Canadians?

To believe that Canada should remain Canadian and not Chinese?

To believe in Canadians right of self determination?

Call these ideas narrow minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic or whatever then, it just confirms to me that the globalist left has no actual arguments anymore.

The irony, you're here talking about nationalism while fucking bitches in Mexico. Get your head out of the clouds mate and actually walk the talk you're talking about.

(08-19-2018 11:12 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

My wife is also of Indian heritage, so I know more than most.

So it's all OK — to be encouraged, even — for white guys go abroad en masse and bang submissive sluts in Asia and the Middle East and bring them home as wives; but god forbid migrant talent in the form of yellow, brown, and black men be allowed the right to settle in Anglo countries so as to provide valuable infrastructural skills and *shock horror* settle down with local white women. Is that what the far right racial purists are getting at?

Heavens, we can't let the subhuman coloured apes do that!

The West is suffering from record deficiencies in professional services. When not enough of the "master race" are wanting to become surgeons, lawyers, engineers, or accountants; it's only sensible to throw open the doors to thinkers and creators from the east who both wish to seek a better lot for their children and enrich and contribute to making the west what it is.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Faggotry. Pure and simple.

Half the family operating the family farm get lazy, stupid and addicted.

Solution.

Sane person: Reform the addicts by any means necessary, or get rid of them and rebuild from scratch, no matter the cost.
Globalist faggot: Sell their half of the farm to the Chinese.

Honestly, don't all these "talented superdudes" from shithole nations feel the least bit obligated to remain in their ancestral lands?

Why in the fuck do you think we would take you seriously as brothers in arms if you literally abandoned your own people and robbed them of your "indispensable skillset" just to make a few bucks and fuck white bitches? To precisely what are you actually loyal? White pussy? The almighty dollar? If we went to war against your ancestral lands, would you be up front shooting the motherfuckers or would you be dodging the draft while trying to land the next big government contract?

Literal refugees fleeing muslim aggression I can understand. Economic migrants. Get the fuck outta here.

And miss me with that shit about "but you have a latina wife".

One. Seeing into her racial world was precisely what red-pilled me on the reality of why shitholes are shitholes. She is ten times more racist against her own people than I will ever be.
Two. Since the dawn of time fucking foreign bitches meant you won a war and having your bitches fucked by foreign men meant you lost a war.

Facts.

Deal with it.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< Plus - doesn't anyone use common sense anymore?

The Japanese are a good example - the Japanese men are somewhat tolerant of countless men traveling there, fucking their women, sometimes a few marrying them. But they are adamantly opposed to mass migration and take in 12-28 refugees per year - and even that is too many according to most.

Plus - there is a race/culture aspect. The Poles have zero opposition against 1.5 mio. Ukrainians moving there (as happened in recent years), but won't take in 10.000 Muslims or Africans.

But no - common sense is out of the door, because entry into White Western countries is a human right even if it completely wipes out Western countries. It's all a matter of scale. I don't care if 1000 non-Westerners go and travel around the West banging countless hotties. I care when 100 mio. of them settle in the West and wipe out the hegemony of the Western countries - long term even making those White hotties as rare as blue diamonds. That is exactly what the globohomos want.

Can't anyone be honest and use his fucking common sense? I have nothing against my non-White brothers, even nothing when some settle in the West and enjoy some pink and blonde pussy. But that does not mean that I want 300 mio. others to come over too. Because then the Japanese would re-militarize if we did that to their country.

One thing is travel, legit pussy chasing, sometimes marriage across tribes - all natural. The other thing is simple genocide and cultural destruction - fits even the current UN definition of genocide but is not applied to the West, because they want them gone.

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And to get this here back on topic. The Chinese here in Canada did not demonstrate against prospective middle-class Indian programmers settling in that refugee camp. They expected the people that now predominantly come - Muslims, Africans and some South Americans. They would not be concerned about IT workers. This was common sense on their part as well.

[Bastard Sword]

(08-20-2018 02:55 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Faggotry. Pure and simple.

Half the family operating the family farm get lazy, stupid and addicted.

Solution.

Sane person: Reform the addicts by any means necessary, or get rid of them and rebuild from scratch, no matter the cost.
Globalist faggot: Sell their half of the farm to the Chinese.

Honestly, don't all these "talented superdudes" from shithole nations feel the least bit obligated to remain in their ancestral lands?

Why in the fuck do you think we would take you seriously as brothers in arms if you literally abandoned your own people and robbed them of your "indispensable skillset" just to make a few bucks and fuck white bitches? To precisely what are you actually loyal? White pussy? The almighty dollar?

Literal refugees fleeing muslim aggression I can understand. Economic migrants. Get the fuck outta here.

And miss me with that shit about "but you have a latina wife".

One. Seeing into her racial world was precisely what red-pilled me on the reality of why shitholes are shitholes. She is ten times more racist against her own people than I will ever be.
Two. Since the dawn of time fucking foreign bitches meant you won a war and having your bitches fucked by foreign men meant you lost a war.

Facts.

Deal with it.

The thing that you're missing is that large swathes of white America are the figurative "family on the farm". Again, I've never lived in other Anglosphere countries, but I wouldn't be surprised if something similar is happening in Canada or Australia as well.

I've posted charts that describe how white Americans are a paltry 17% of STEM graduates compared to Asian Americans being more than 30%, how white children are dramatically more likely to be born out of wedlock, white families almost twice as likely to divorce, whites being drastically more likely to need treatment for mental health issues. From the looks of it, it seems that white people have a lot more problems than educated Chinese immigrants. I'm not Chinese, but it's still utterly retarded to view them as being a negative influence, while holding up white America as being some paragon of stability and progress.

People are loyal to opportunities and a good future for their children. If they make more out of those opportunities than the locals in certain countries, that's no one's problem but the locals'. Instead of complaining on internet boards, maybe those locals should actually fucking work harder, learn valuable skills, and make the most out of the economic opportunities that their ancestors created. Bitching about immigrants while failing to equip yourself for the modern economy is pathetic.

These opportunities didn't exist in India, China, Russia, wherever to the same degree that they did in the west. Hell these opportunities even popped up in places like the Gulf or Singapore which is why tons of these STEM-focused immigrants moved there as well. It's just people with useful skills moving to places where they'll be well compensated for those skills and can enjoy a good standard of living. That's it.

Invariably, though, the race whiners on this thread will continue to complain about how these people are "destroying the west", while their own co-ethnics are busy flushing their own culture and families down the toilet.

[Cattle Rustler]

(08-20-2018 02:55 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

And miss me with that shit about "but you have a latina wife".

Edit - I give LDN's meltdown a 8/10. WW (Would Watch).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< You are cherry picking the Chinese, because no one said that the Chinese are dysfunctional. If 500 mio. came over, then the US and Canada would become more like Hong Kong, but it would be fine.

But you are avoiding the other tribes, because most immigrants to White countries are either Muslim, African or Indian - and Indians still have an average IQ of 82 vs 106 of Chinese. The cherry picking of the higher IQ IT workers only goes so far. I read somewhere that the average Indian immigrant IQ is way over 100, which means that the country literally exported some of their smartest people 2 standard deviations above the field-shitting girl-sacrificing average out there.

You just don't get it and don't want to get it, do you?

It's not about people choosing to have opportunities - it's about the founding people of those countries becoming minorities in their own FUCKING PLACE!

Canada: 1970s - 98% White
Canada: 2100 - 20% White

If the Chinese are 50%+ then it will be Hong Kong and it can count itself lucky, but the probability for that is zero. And even then - it won't be the old founding Canada anymore, but a non-Western country. Thus even in THE BEST EXAMPLE OUT THERE - it will be destroyed as a Western nation.

But more likely it will be multicultural shithole of Muslims, Arabs, Africans, diversity industry hellhole, Indians, Chinese, 20% Europeans - still the most hated ethnicity. Some tribes will work well together, while others will be a disaster. And this is something that many people see - but you are making it easy for you calling it race trolling. You are the Rainbow Hitler just as the globohomos are.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Fuck off, invader.

I'm wholly aware of my own people's shortcomings, Jewfuckery notwithstanding.

Why you think that would invite being invaded by foreign vultures looking to pick the carcass clean before fucking off to greener pastures is beyond me.

This is why your nations are shitholes.

Because you have a locust mentality from your balls to to your bones, loyal at best to your children, never to your people or your nation, and typically to nothing more than money and sex.

The very reason you don't understand this is the very reason the globalists are desperate to flood our nations with your kind.

We are better off collapsing and rebuilding. What kind of idiot would suffer total invasion of a centuries old nation just to prop it up for another decade or two?

[Leonard D Neubache]

(08-20-2018 03:22 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(08-20-2018 02:55 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

And miss me with that shit about "but you have a latina wife".

That's the difference between me and you.

I would leave with my wife if that's what it took to save my nation.

You give a shit about yourself and nothing else.

That's why your people build shitholes and mine build the places your people try to sneak into.

[Bastard Sword]

(08-19-2018 11:12 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

It is entirely about mediocrity.

I'm a pretty serious player in the fintech space, the IRT's imported, into Australia anyway, are mediocre. The number I can count that are above average would be lucky to exceed one hand.

My wife is also of Indian heritage, so I know more than most.

We're not importing a skill we're lacking, we're importing a means to suppress wages.

We don't need these 'vast numbers' when they're mediocre bar the very few exceptions, particularly we are deploying local labor to non-productive bullshit jobs, such as baristas.

We don't need IRT's in the west for Facebook to exist, it can be coded from India, with IRT's staying there.

It is all about incentives, IRT's are incentivised to work for low wages in the western world because it is still a step up from where they come from.

They may be an unwilling pawn in the erosion of the hard fought claim of wage share vs profit share, however it's going to be part of the long term erosion of real wealth, and people look to lash out. History shows this.

The smug, entitled and racist attitudes that all non-whites show towards whites isn't a winning strategy. Throw in exclusionary employment and labor practices shown by racist non-whites in the firms our forefathers built isn't improving things.

And I say this because I am cautious what it will mean to my wife and kids.

And the impotent claim about the Hindus Valley 4,000 years ago. I wasn't alive then, but my forefathers changed their culture to improve things. Such an improvement that were the premier culture in the world, as evident by the observation of migration paths around the world.

It's simple, India is a mediocre country in 2018 because it's full of contemporary Indians and their concomitant culture. That's why all the IRT's are looking to flee to the west, rather than code Facebook from Bangalore.

This just keeps getting better and better

T & A Man's seems to view Australia as a place where a massive pool of qualified white Australian coders were shunted aside by Indians and "deployed" as baristas. The Jews really outdid themselves there. Tons of talented white coders forced to work at Starbucks while low-paid Indians swept in and took their jobs. Sheer genius. I'm sure the west will collapse any moment as a result of such Machiavellian planning.

The simple fact is that white Americas (and perhaps white Anglos in general) are on average underqualified when it comes to STEM skills. They're not just underqualified in comparison to Asian Americans, Indians, or Chinese -- they're also dwarfed in number by groups like Russians. This extends to IT workplaces in America as well -- where almost every single white person you see in a programming job is either Russian, Ukranian, or some other kind of Eastern European.

Your ancestors were, at various points in history, at an inferior level of civilization to the ancient Egyptians, the black Kushites, the civilizations of Mesopotamia, and China and India at various stages. This is a simple fact -- where non-white civilizations were building complex cities and monuments when most of northern Europe was a complete barbaric wilderness. At any of those points, the gap between your ancestors and the Egyptians, Kushites, Indians etc was as big as the gap between the Congo and Switzerland today.

The point I'm making is that cultures and peoples evolve and change over time -- people who were powerful at one point are not any more. To answer your passive aggressive question, India is in a downswing, while the West is in an upswing. That doesn't make India or the West inherently better, especially considering there were points when the inhabitants of Sudan and Ethiopia outclassed the ancient French, British, and Germans in civilizational terms.

White race trolls like Sloppy Seconds and the rest of the brigade just want to believe that whites are inherently superior, that only white people can really be American, and that all immigration, skilled or not, is just non-whites leeching off of whites and purely benefitting off of their generosity. They'll then throw childish fits whenever anyone calls them out on their nonsense. Guys like Sloppy Seconds have been called out and humiliated in a variety of other threads, but they keep popping up like herpetic sores to race troll the forum anew.

SS, the founding fathers of the US at least were horrified at the thought of Germans entering the country -- they would have been aghast at the thought of Irish immigration and utterly against Italians, Eastern Europeans, and Jews coming in. No one here wants whites to become a minority anywhere, but claiming that Asian immigration is some violation of America ideals is straight up retarded. Those ideals were already violated the second non-Anglo Saxon Europeans started coming in.

[Bastard Sword]

(08-20-2018 03:24 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Fuck off, invader.

I'm wholly aware of my own people's shortcomings, Jewfuckery notwithstanding.

Why you think that would invite being invaded by foreign vultures looking to pick the carcass clean before fucking off to greener pastures is beyond me.

This is why your nations are shitholes.

Because you have a locust mentality from your balls to to your bones, loyal at best to your children, never to your people or your nation, and typically to nothing more than money and sex.

The very reason you don't understand this is the very reason the globalists are desperate to flood our nations with your kind.

We are better off collapsing and rebuilding. What kind of idiot would suffer total invasion of a centuries old nation just to prop it up for another decade or two?

Great meltdown, could you do another one? I'm sigging the bolded part, the previous one was getting old.

If you're so loyal to your "people", why in the world would you marry a "foreign vulture" (your Latina wife) and create "racially inferior" mixed race kids? From the sounds of it, you're not even loyal to your family -- you're out on an internet board complaining about how inferior non-whites like them are and how detrimental they are to the west. Probably wouldn't want my own dad spending his free time talking about how racially inferior me and my mom are, but hey, that's just me.

Shit like this just ruins whatever little credibility trolls like you have. You've written thousands upon thousands of posts attacking a group of people that includes your own wife and children, then try to tell me that I have no integrity. What a fucking circus. This thread delivered in entertainment value for sure.

[T and A Man]

White guys en masse.....

How many white criminal lawyers, parliamentarians and MSN editors in chief are there in China and India?

Talk about hyperbole.

As far as others fucking white women I don't care. What I care about is a functional culture. It isn't the talented whites alone doing this, prole whites exhibit enough impulse control to have civilisation function properly.

My Indian wife recognises without qualification that's its the white people keeping this country orderly.

The converse applies, India is a shit hole because it's full of Indians and their concomitant culture. White countries are great because they are full of whites and their concomitant culture.

It's also mistake to conflate the talented 10th Asians that make it to our countries, with the other 90% (i.e. Asian proles) that ensure their countries remain shit holes. However once your kind lobby to get the floodgates open to bring your proles across, our countries turn into the countries you left.

But again, you keep talking about the "talents you bring". Why do you have to bring them here? You can be as equally talented back in Asia.

It's our culture, otherwise you wouldn't be here. My wife clearly admits it's white culture she is after, the very least you could do is show some gratitude.

[T and A Man]

"where a massive pool of qualified white Australian coders were shunted aside by Indians and "deployed" as baristas"

No, that's not what I am saying. Im saying to get idle labor skilled takes investment.

When this investment isn't made, they don't gave the skills. This lack of investment can be enacted if there is a pool of workers who will readily accept inferior wages and conditions, despite them being inferior It workers on a like for like basis.

Then when long term career prospects are killed at the beginning, they turn to any job, such as baristas, to get by.

[Tactician]

(08-20-2018 02:40 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 11:12 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

My wife is also of Indian heritage, so I know more than most.

So it's all OK — to be encouraged, even — for white guys go abroad en masse and bang submissive sluts in Asia and the Middle East and bring them home as wives; but god forbid migrant talent in the form of yellow, brown, and black men be allowed the right to settle in Anglo countries so as to provide valuable infrastructural skills and *shock horror* settle down with local white women. Is that what the far right racial purists are getting at?

Heavens, we can't let the subhuman coloured apes do that!

The West is suffering from record deficiencies in professional services. When not enough of the "master race" are wanting to become surgeons, lawyers, engineers, or accountants; it's only sensible to throw open the doors to thinkers and creators from the east who both wish to seek a better lot for their children and enrich and contribute to making the west what it is.

Dude, no. Look, I'd take Chinese immigrants over refugees any day. In fact, I love Chinese people, but holy fuck you do NOT want a Chinese majority taking over your country.

All the stuff you said about doctors and lawyers is reasonable, but the thing is that Chinese people simply do not think the way Whites do. Chinese people (or really any non-white race) vote in blocs and always put their cultural interests first. 2018 Whites are some of the most welcoming people on the planet, but Chinese are still top dog for the most racist. Chinese are wily and cunning and will absolutely take over your country if they are given the chance and you will NEVER get it back. Whites value individuality, but Chinese put their culture first. The difference in mentalities is night & day. Whites, thinking everyone is kind and welcoming like them, don't realise this.

Anyway, doctors and lawyers are important, but we are talking about an existential crisis, not an economic one. As Simeon_Strangelight points out, even if Japan suffers a big economic blow, as long as they keep their immigration gated, they will always be Japan.

The same cannot be said for the USA and the same cannot be said for Canada.

To use a local example, I've lived in B.C. for most of my life and locals here will know that whenever an area becomes Chinese or East Indian, it can only ever become 'more Chinese' (Richmond), or 'more East Indian' (Newton in Surrey). This is because these ethnic enclaves bring in their friends & family and politically 'defend' their turf. Whites don't do this. Whites are way to individualistic. It's admirable, I really respect it, but when you mix cultures, the nationalist culture is always going to win out. Prisoner's Dilemma. Whites are 'cooperating' and EVERYONE else is 'betraying' (figuratively).

The result? Areas can only ever become 'less white.'

The average White does not realise this, but every foreigner knows it in their bones. Trust me, if the Chinese take over a large chunk of Canada or where ever, you will NEVER get that chunk back. It's very easy to fuck a nation's demographics, but it's damn near impossible to unfuck those same demographics.
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No pups in this fight. For my whole life my friends have been damn well split between old-school hockey playing Whites & Chinese/Chinese nationals (CCP membership and all). I might kick it to Asia for tax reasons, too, so even less pups. Just some observations.

[Bastard Sword]

(08-20-2018 03:46 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

White guys en masse.....

How many white criminal lawyers, parliamentarians and MSN editors in chief are there in China and India?

Talk about hyperbole.

As far as others fucking white women I don't care. What I care about is a functional culture. It isn't the talented whites alone doing this, prole whites exhibit enough impulse control to have civilisation function properly.

My Indian wife recognises without qualification that's its the white people keeping this country orderly.

The converse applies, India is a shit hole because it's full of Indians and their concomitant culture. White countries are great because they are full of whites and their concomitant culture.

It's also mistake to conflate the talented 10th Asians that make it to our countries, with the other 90% (i.e. Asian proles) that ensure their countries remain shit holes. However once your kind lobby to get the floodgates open to bring your proles across, our countries turn into the countries you left.

But again, you keep talking about the "talents you bring". Why do you have to bring them here? You can be as equally talented back in Asia.

It's our culture, otherwise you wouldn't be here. My wife clearly admits it's white culture she is after, the very least you could do is show some gratitude.

And if your Indian wife was in America, it would be plain as fucking day for her to see that white Americans aren't exactly a bulwark against cultural degeneracy, family breakdown, and other social ills. On the contrary, they're flinging themselves headlong into these things. Which is why it's asinine to stick your head in the sand, pretend this isn't happening, and blame immigrants for your problems as your fellow WRTs are doing.

I'm a native born American. As I described earlier, I've lived in heavily Asian/skilled immigrant areas and in heavily white areas. Maybe it's just a California thing (I doubt it) but the difference in terms of performance and overall functionality between the two was huge. I was around upper middle class people the entire time but the white areas were shitholes of mental illness and destroyed families for some reason while the Asian areas weren't. Statistics, even those listed by our boy Sloppy Seconds, routinely back this up (I've posted several earlier in the thread).

White countries may once have been great thanks to the white culture -- now they're great because of systems created by white people that contemporary whites are failing to take advantage of. Sure, Anglo Saxons created a great fair system where hard work and intelligence could be rewarded. But if Indians and Asians are utterly excelling in that system, to the point where they're outperforming the local white Americans, then that doesn't exactly help your case either.

Your argument about Indians wanting to come to America because of the "culture" is retarded -- they're coming over because that's where the jobs are. Most would rather be surrounded by friends and family they've grown up around. Shockingly enough, however, that coding job they get from Facebook may actually require them to move to California and work there. I'm sure this a mind blowing concept for you, but when you work for a foreign company, they may actually expect you to relocate.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I'm going to put this here for the white dudes because it will put some shit into perspective.

More than anything the capacity to build a first world nation and the loss of the thing that carries it is shame.

Tough sell on this forum, but there it is. It's the reason Japan went from a post war wreck to a manufacturing superpower in a few short decades while other shitholes remain shitholes or have become even worse under globalism.

In actual fact, it's loss is probably the main reason the West is legitimately fucked to the point where anyone would justify importing foreign labour to fill shortfalls for the globalist tech machine.

In Japan you can leave your bicycle unlocked anywhere you like, just as you could in any 1950's white nation. This is not because stealing is against the law. That's pretty much the law everywhere. It's because Japanese people internalise and externalise shame for stealing. Not a fear of the law.

Take a look at those Norman Rockwell paintings of post war America. To the economic locust everything they see there is random. Maybe the police are nice and friendly because they're new on the job. Maybe that kid is leaving his bike unlocked outside the icecream shop because his dad is rich and he doesn't care if it gets stolen.

What they don't understand and apparently never will is that the entire picture is driven by shame for behavior that reduces the society to a place where you need psychotic cops and bike locks.

You will never see this more starkly than when you see an African American woman shreiking about how the wacis' white cops had no business shooting her darling son Dindu who just robbed a family and was holding them at gunpoint.

Take the same scenario with a white woman and even to this day nine times out of ten you will see a woman wracked with shame that she raised a child who's life amounted to a massive negative account owed to society.

When did black communities in America have that shame?

What happened when they lost it?

It is that horrid puritan shame that builds first world societies and its absence that destroys it.

What has our cultural pozzing and moral relativity achieved other than to remove that sense of shame? What has been the result for our people?

Again, tough sell on this forum, but there it is. Doubt it?

Go to China. Same IQ. Same tech. What is the difference in their behaviour?
Go to Japan. Same IQ. Same tech. Totally different society. Why?

So when you have some guy who makes a life out of tricking whores into fucking him tell you that you're on the wrong track with this stuff and you should obviously just be "enjoying the decline" then you know the old addage is true.

It is as good to be respected by the respectable as it is to be detested by the detestable.

Many whites have been debased. They have become Jewthralls or addicts or NEETs or entered into any number of shitty outcomes.

The solution is not now nor was it ever to replace them with so called "conservative" foreigners who by and large will conserve nothing but their own foreign culture.

The solution is to throw off the shackles of the poz and return shame for shameful behaviour, by the sword if it comes to that.

You do not sell the family farm because your brother becomes a drunk.