[thegmanifesto]

(10-16-2011 05:30 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

(10-15-2011 02:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 07:06 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 06:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Question for people on Herman Cain:

I like the cat. He seems funny.

But then I read that he admitted to shying away from the Civil Rights Movement when he was the perfect age to be participating.

He basically stayed indoors while others fought.

I am not African-American so I am in no place to judge the guy.

I was curious to the brothers on here what they think of him on this point?

Seems to me to be a pretty weak move.

Can't America produce a politician with a decent resume and track record?

I'm not black so excuse me if I offend any of the forums' brothers or ruffle any feathers, but to me this Herman Cain guy is a textbook Uncle Tom.

Anyone have some more feedback on Herman Cain?

This doesn’t necessary make him an Uncle Tom without knowing more about him. Did he not participate because he was subservient to Whites or because protesting was going to fuck his money up? After all, there’s such a thing as fighting for the “Struggle” from behind the scenes and covertly. Maybe he has mentored countless of Black executives and helped them “come up” but for obvious reasons he can’t go out and brag about it without alienating the tea baggers. He did go hard after Perry over “NiggerHead-gate.” Something that I did not expect him to do. Although he’s no Obama in the oratory department he does hold is own against the other candidates.

Barry is going to win. I know that the past is no indication of future performance but anybody who has ever run for anything from Class president to The President knows that incumbency is a powerful thing. In the last 40 years only 2 presidents have lost a second term(Carter, Bush I) They were both defeated by likeable and extremely charismatic individuals(Reagan, Clinton ) i.e. Game. Romney is not even on the same league as Reagan and Clinton, he sounds like an annoying MetLife insurance salesman trying to sell you their crappy whole life insurance policy.

I actually think Cain might have a shot of winning the whole enchilada against Obama. He’s folksy, charismatic and likes to tell stories. He grew up poor in the South so he can relate to middle class /poor voters and has the credibility to bullshit them about upper mobility and the virtues of hard work. Also, as a Black Man he’s has a very non-threatening disposition and doesn’t shy away from criticizing Blacks. He reminds me of Danny Glover before he went Angry Black Man over the yellow the cabs and Morgan Freeman, two actors who were always typecast as Magic Negroes. Cain has been on top of the polls for about two weeks now, if he stays on message with that 9-9-9 shit and keeps the momentum going and no major skeletons are in his closet he will be the nominee.

"After all, there’s such a thing as fighting for the “Struggle” from behind the scenes and covertly."

I agree.

If he was a college student at the time, and was working on "covert operations" of The Civil Rights Movement at the time, more power to him.

I kind of doubt it though. I could be wrong. He certainly hasn't said anything to that effect.

Personally, I have little respect for those who don't get their hands dirty when they had the chance.

I would think that a leader, especially one who wants to be The President, should have his track record looked at under the microscope and display a strong resume.

Is that too much to ask in America?

[speakeasy]

For now, I'll refrain from calling Cain an Uncle Tom. I think that's a word that is way overused and there should be damn good reason before making such an accusation. I don't know what Cain's record is regarding black affairs. He has made some comments I don't like saying that blacks have basically been brainwashed by the Democratic party. Many black conservatives have this sort of condescending view towards blacks. They see themselves as iconoclasts who have somehow "freed" themselves from the plantation by joining the Republican party. Whatever. Most blacks don't vote Republican because Republican economic policies generally make life tougher for the poor and blacks are disproportionately poor. And there has always been a culture of racism amongst conservatives and Republicans that can't be denied. They do have a history of appealing to bigots whether we're talking about the "southern strategy" of the 60s up to the Tea Party(most of whom will vote Republican even though they claim to be independent).

Any black running for the Republican party who expects support from conservative whites basically has to appear "raceless". He can't make much mention of his race or racism. It will alienate whites who think racism is a dead issue and are sick of hearing about it from whiny blacks. If Cain started talking about it, he could kiss any hope of the nomination goodbye. Even Obama is very limited in the way he can approach the issue. Look at how is numbers tanked with whites right after the Henry Louis Gates incident. Many blacks feel Obama distances himself from black affairs and it's probably true. And that's because any black that seems "too black" will be unelectable.

[iknowexactly]

(10-14-2011 02:23 PM)Brian Wrote:  

Cain is going to win the Republican nomination and the Presidency. alot of republican blacks will vote for Cain

I agree. That will only account for about four to five votes though, doesn't seem like enough to win.

[Brian]

(10-17-2011 02:55 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 02:23 PM)Brian Wrote:  

Cain is going to win the Republican nomination and the Presidency. alot of republican blacks will vote for Cain

I agree. That will only account for about four to five votes though, doesn't seem like enough to win.

I think he will get a much bigger percentage of the black vote then most people realize.

[The_CEO]

(10-15-2011 10:19 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(10-15-2011 03:15 PM)Brian Wrote:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

Yeah, wikipedia very curiously omits his non-participation in the Civil Rights Movement.

I am very interested in peoples opinion.

What do you have to do to get a Herman Cain opinion around here?

he had better things to do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DrSEyjBj1w

[Pusscrook]

Will be asking Herman some questions on Wednesday when he is being interviewed by Neil Boortz on Wednesday. You guys should call on ask questions if you want to feel him out for yourself. 877-310-2100

[Pusscrook]

My 5 questions for herman will be :

1. 11 months ago you were against any type of national retail sales tax( (a variation of the Vat tax),... how is that any different from your 9-9-9 plan?

2.18 months ago he made a statement on his radio show that a majority of the american people were not in favor of the President's health care act , and therefore congress should repeal health care. My question to him will be:

If the american people are not in favor of any of your policies, will you t agree to have them all repealed? (dumb fuck)

3. He has stated over and over again that he is a compassionate conservative. My question to him will be:

So , Herman, you are compassionate , yet conservative...when you talk about building a real border fence, with barbed wire, that has the capability to electrocute anyone that touches the fence on the other side, how compassionate do you think that sounds?

4. Since we all paid to bail out the very institutions that cause the financial crisis, why have you not advocated not one penalty or investigation of said individuals or financial institution?

5. In early 2008 , both you and Mitt Romney vehemently opposed the bail out for the big 3 auto companies. With all three(3) companies being profitable now, (because of the bailout you opposed) do you have any regrets about your statements?

Don't know if Neil will allow me to fire them all off, since Herman is long-winded.

[Easy E]

Cain's 9-9-9 plan sounds hard to implement. I don't think he really thought about it.

[Stun]

No one other than Romney or Perry will win the R nomination. Probably Romney. When it happens, I will gleefully point back at this post with an "I told you so." How they are polling now is mainly irrelevant.

To think that Herman Cain could win the nomination is ludicrous and shows a lack of observation of US politics over the last several elections.

Romney will probably give Obama more trouble than Perry, although Perry would almost certainly win the south, which could give Barry fits.

If Perry wins the nom, it will probably come down to who wins Virginia and maybe a few other states. If Romney wins, the south will be more up for grabs, but Virginia will still matter, as will Iowa, Colorado, and a few of the rust belt states.

[CupCake]

As much as I would love to see Ron Paul win, the media simply won't allow him to get his voice heard. There's been a complete media blackout about his campaign. I can't believe something like this is happening in modern America.

That said, I'm calling Rick Perry on this one. I'd put money on it.

[thegmanifesto]

(10-18-2011 08:28 PM)CupCake Wrote:  

As much as I would love to see Ron Paul win, the media simply won't allow him to get his voice heard. There's been a complete media blackout about his campaign. I can't believe something like this is happening in modern America.

That said, I'm calling Rick Perry on this one. I'd put money on it.

I agree with you.

I just watched a little of the debate and they never let Ron Paul speak.

And there has been a media blackout.

As far as Perry, I think many of people will take your bet.

Perry is simply too dumb. Even for conservatives in America.

Which is saying a lot.

I don't even think dumb, broke rednecks that are constantly convinced to vote against their own interests buy his pitch.

That is, unless he starts giving free Meth to middle America.

[thegmanifesto]

I just watched the end of the debates and some highlights.

Here is my opinion on the Republican Field:

Rick Santorum - Typical tough talking, no heart politician. Dork.

Michelle Bachmann - Talking about her is beneath me.

Rick Perry - Just too dumb. You could throw a cowboy boot in Texas and hit a smarter redneck than this guy.

Mitt Romney - For lack of a better term, he is a beta b*tch. Calling for Anderson Cooper when he and Perry were getting into it. This guy was the snitch on the playground when you were a kid.

Herman Cain - Funny. But until I hear a decent reason why he stayed inside during the Civil Rights Movement, he is a coward. An an unapologetic coward at that. This guy was the coward who didn't have your back when things got a little hot on the playground when you were a kid.

Ron Paul - The best of the field by far, although no one will let him speak. A little too frail.

Conclusion:

I wouldn't let anyone of these people (except Ron Paul) take me to dinner let alone want them as President of my country.

Is this really the best we got?

[Brian]

(10-18-2011 09:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I just watched the end of the debates and some highlights.

Here is my opinion on the Republican Field:

Rick Santorum - Typical tough talking, no heart politician. Dork.

Michelle Bachmann - Talking about her is beneath me.

Rick Perry - Just too dumb. You could throw a cowboy boot in Texas and hit a smarter redneck than this guy.

Mitt Romney - For lack of a better term, he is a beta b*tch. Calling for Anderson Cooper when he and Perry were getting into it. This guy was the snitch on the playground when you were a kid.

Herman Cain - Funny. But until I hear a decent reason why he stayed inside during the Civil Rights Movement, he is a coward. An an unapologetic coward at that. This guy was the coward who didn't have your back when things got a little hot on the playground when you were a kid.

Ron Paul - The best of the field by far, although no one will let him speak. A little too frail.

Conclusion:

I wouldn't let anyone of these people (except Ron Paul) take me to dinner let alone want them as President of my country.

Is this really the best we got?

yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

[Pusscrook]

(10-18-2011 10:11 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 09:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Is this really the best we got?

yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

Imagine that "a community agitator" facing more adversity than any other President, but still at 43% approval rating. By now you would think the country would've fallen off the face of the earth with this "community agitator" in charge.

[Brian]

uhh, 43% sucks, especially when you consider an abnormally high rate of blacks approve because he is black.

[Pusscrook]

(10-19-2011 09:13 AM)Brian Wrote:  

uhh, 43% sucks, especially when you consider an abnormally high rate of blacks approve because he is black.

ahhh I see, it's a racial thing. heheheh

[The_CEO]

[/quote]

better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

[/quote]

Here is a guy who made is own way against adversity, succeeding in school, getting educated at the country's best colleges, without help from anyone. Not getting "free stuff", not lazy, and all the other canards you recycle without anything concrete to back it up. All of the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps stuff that you say that you stand far. Then instead of cashing on on his ivy league education, he contributes to his community. And you ridicule him for that? In theory he should be a right-winger's dream. He actually did what you say you stand for.

[thegmanifesto]

(10-18-2011 10:11 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 09:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I just watched the end of the debates and some highlights.

Here is my opinion on the Republican Field:

Rick Santorum - Typical tough talking, no heart politician. Dork.

Michelle Bachmann - Talking about her is beneath me.

Rick Perry - Just too dumb. You could throw a cowboy boot in Texas and hit a smarter redneck than this guy.

Mitt Romney - For lack of a better term, he is a beta b*tch. Calling for Anderson Cooper when he and Perry were getting into it. This guy was the snitch on the playground when you were a kid.

Herman Cain - Funny. But until I hear a decent reason why he stayed inside during the Civil Rights Movement, he is a coward. An an unapologetic coward at that. This guy was the coward who didn't have your back when things got a little hot on the playground when you were a kid.

Ron Paul - The best of the field by far, although no one will let him speak. A little too frail.

Conclusion:

I wouldn't let anyone of these people (except Ron Paul) take me to dinner let alone want them as President of my country.

Is this really the best we got?

yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

"yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now"

Head Cheerleader comment.

[Brian]

(10-19-2011 10:02 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 10:11 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 09:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I just watched the end of the debates and some highlights.

Here is my opinion on the Republican Field:

Rick Santorum - Typical tough talking, no heart politician. Dork.

Michelle Bachmann - Talking about her is beneath me.

Rick Perry - Just too dumb. You could throw a cowboy boot in Texas and hit a smarter redneck than this guy.

Mitt Romney - For lack of a better term, he is a beta b*tch. Calling for Anderson Cooper when he and Perry were getting into it. This guy was the snitch on the playground when you were a kid.

Herman Cain - Funny. But until I hear a decent reason why he stayed inside during the Civil Rights Movement, he is a coward. An an unapologetic coward at that. This guy was the coward who didn't have your back when things got a little hot on the playground when you were a kid.

Ron Paul - The best of the field by far, although no one will let him speak. A little too frail.

Conclusion:

I wouldn't let anyone of these people (except Ron Paul) take me to dinner let alone want them as President of my country.

Is this really the best we got?

yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

"yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now"

Head Cheerleader comment.

yeah, my bad G, i'm wrong, it really is a good idea to put a guy in charge of the country who doesn't have the executive experience necessary to run a McDonalds, or to put a guy in charge of a country w/huge financial problems who doesnt know what a P/E ratio is, and couldnt stop keep himself out of debt until his book blew up and his wife got a 300% raise for no reason. hope and change baby, hope and change.

[The_CEO]

(10-19-2011 10:25 AM)Brian Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 10:02 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 10:11 PM)Brian Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 09:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I just watched the end of the debates and some highlights.

Here is my opinion on the Republican Field:

Rick Santorum - Typical tough talking, no heart politician. Dork.

Michelle Bachmann - Talking about her is beneath me.

Rick Perry - Just too dumb. You could throw a cowboy boot in Texas and hit a smarter redneck than this guy.

Mitt Romney - For lack of a better term, he is a beta b*tch. Calling for Anderson Cooper when he and Perry were getting into it. This guy was the snitch on the playground when you were a kid.

Herman Cain - Funny. But until I hear a decent reason why he stayed inside during the Civil Rights Movement, he is a coward. An an unapologetic coward at that. This guy was the coward who didn't have your back when things got a little hot on the playground when you were a kid.

Ron Paul - The best of the field by far, although no one will let him speak. A little too frail.

Conclusion:

I wouldn't let anyone of these people (except Ron Paul) take me to dinner let alone want them as President of my country.

Is this really the best we got?

yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

"yeah, the really sad thing is each and every one of them is better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now"

Head Cheerleader comment.

yeah, my bad G, i'm wrong, it really is a good idea to put a guy in charge of the country who doesn't have the executive experience necessary to run a McDonalds, or to put a guy in charge of a country w/huge financial problems who doesnt know what a P/E ratio is, and couldnt stop keep himself out of debt until his book blew up and his wife got a 300% raise for no reason. hope and change baby, hope and change.

Uh huh. Guess that's why GM and the banks he rescued (when the global economy blew up thanks to their profound knowledge of p/e ratios) have paid the US govt back with interest and are now posting record profits.
But he's a socialist right, hates the stock market, etc etc etc

[Brian]

but I thought Bush rescued the banks?

If you want to see what a socialist who caters to the unions and ignores hundreds of years of bankruptcy laws does google "obama chrysler bondholders"

[The_CEO]

(10-19-2011 10:57 AM)Brian Wrote:  

If you want to see what a socialist who caters to the unions and ignores hundreds of years of bankruptcy laws does google "obama chrysler bondholders"

Ha. You're still on the "Obama is a socialist" thing?

Ok, googled it.

Here are the first things that appeared:
1)Chrysler's bondholders are whining about Obama's deal. Don't listen to them.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/m..._bond.html

2) Why Chrysler’s Bondholders Should Stop Whining
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/w...p-whining/

[Samseau]

better then the 'community agitator' we have in office now

[/quote]

Here is a guy who made is own way against adversity, succeeding in school, getting educated at the country's best colleges, without help from anyone. Not getting "free stuff", not lazy, and all the other canards you recycle without anything concrete to back it up. All of the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps stuff that you say that you stand far. Then instead of cashing on on his ivy league education, he contributes to his community. And you ridicule him for that? In theory he should be a right-winger's dream. He actually did what you say you stand for.
[/quote]

Obama is nothing more than a creature bred by the education system in America. He is a total product of the institution. He made it to top schools because of affirmative action. His college publications are trash, most of the posters on this forum are better authors than him.

He played his whole life of filling in the "successful black man" role that the white left loves; obama has no soul, no charecter. Just a bunch of empty platitudes.


G - I wouldn't vote for anyone except ron paul, and I see no reason not to.

[Easy E]

Well, I think that either Perry or Romney are going to win the nomination. The others are just falling behind in terms of exposure.

Now, can Perry or Romney beat Obama?

I think either one can if the economy doesn't improve. In fact, if the economy worsens, then Obama is toast regardless of who wins the repub nomination.

[portofmanteau]

(10-19-2011 01:44 PM)Easy E Wrote:  

Well, I think that either Perry or Romney are going to win the nomination. The others are just falling behind in terms of exposure.

Now, can Perry or Romney beat Obama?

I think either one can if the economy doesn't improve. In fact, if the economy worsens, then Obama is toast regardless of who wins the repub nomination.

I agree - Obama has made some key mistakes turning his back on his base, which is a bad idea considering that the other side hates him with a passion no matter what he does. Moderates will vote for him if the economy gets better; but if it gets worse, we're looking at President Romney or, significantly worse, President Perry.

Although, it's also possible Cain will pull a Perot.