[Bienvenuto]

2 hours out of Saigon.

I'll pm you.

[TravelerKai]

Yeah hit me up later and we can talk privately.

[flyinghorse]

Cool. Would be decent to meet some other expats with similar pursuits.

I've got plenty of friends here but most are drinking buddies who are in LTR's

[wellrockthecity]

Fellow balding guy here with average face, no issues in getting laid in Europe.

From your posts I can feel you are very insecure about you loosing your hair which is understandable.
I had that too when I started going bald. Which was in my early 20s, now almost 10 years couldn't give two shits to be honest.
It sucks but it would have sucked way more to have a head full of hair but be 20cm shorter.

One thing that you have to really understand is the target of girl you are going for. I know I do pretty bad with under 25s in clubs, as there are a hoard of younger guys better looking and with more hair than me. I am pretty realistic about that and I know that in clubs game look is one of the most important points.
Thats fine, I still get early 20s girl from day game, laid a 19 years old not long ago.

You said that you mainly go for white girls, which is a bit bizarre since you are in Vietnam.
I have never been to Vietnam but if there is enough of them and you are not having good results it means that your target does not dig you, assuming that your game and everything else is on point. Which means you either have to change your style, vibe etc., change your target or get the fuck out of there to greener pastures.

I was actually thinking about this the other day while talking to a friend of mine that just came back from Australia. The guy is one of the most successful player I have ever met, easily 200+ notches and all of them in Western Europe.
I was actually shocked when he told me that he only got laid with 3 girls in one year in Sidney. Apparently his worst year since he lost his virginity almost 20 years before.
He has this skinny hipsterish vibe, he has never worked out in his life, which works really well in the kind of circles he hangs out here in Europe.
But the blonde, slutty looking, low IQ Australian girls he was going for would prefer the drunk, jacked, low IQ Australian guys.
If he would have focused on another target of girls he would probably have killed it as usual.
Funnily enough that was his second or third day back home and he got laid with a new girl met at this party we were at. He is not planning to go back to Australia.

[Bikal]

(06-07-2018 08:38 AM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

I was actually shocked when he told me that he only got laid with 3 girls in one year in Sidney.

I'm not at all surprised in all honesty, Australia is a girls playground not a guys playground and you're competing, especially in Sydney, with AFL and NRL players, 1.90m upwards and super jacked... oh they're also rich as fuck.

Don't get me wrong, Australia is great to visit but unless you're after a dry summer, head somewhere else. That's not to say that hookups don't happen but you'd have to adjust your standards downwards if you're not on the level of the lads who are chasing the same girls you are.

[flyinghorse]

(06-07-2018 08:38 AM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

Fellow balding guy here with average face, no issues in getting laid in Europe.

From your posts I can feel you are very insecure about you loosing your hair which is understandable.
I had that too when I started going bald. Which was in my early 20s, now almost 10 years couldn't give two shits to be honest.
It sucks but it would have sucked way more to have a head full of hair but be 20cm shorter.

One thing that you have to really understand is the target of girl you are going for. I know I do pretty bad with under 25s in clubs, as there are a hoard of younger guys better looking and with more hair than me. I am pretty realistic about that and I know that in clubs game look is one of the most important points.
Thats fine, I still get early 20s girl from day game, laid a 19 years old not long ago.

You said that you mainly go for white girls, which is a bit bizarre since you are in Vietnam.
I have never been to Vietnam but if there is enough of them and you are not having good results it means that your target does not dig you, assuming that your game and everything else is on point. Which means you either have to change your style, vibe etc., change your target or get the fuck out of there to greener pastures.

I was actually thinking about this the other day while talking to a friend of mine that just came back from Australia. The guy is one of the most successful player I have ever met, easily 200+ notches and all of them in Western Europe.
I was actually shocked when he told me that he only got laid with 3 girls in one year in Sidney. Apparently his worst year since he lost his virginity almost 20 years before.
He has this skinny hipsterish vibe, he has never worked out in his life, which works really well in the kind of circles he hangs out here in Europe.
But the blonde, slutty looking, low IQ Australian girls he was going for would prefer the drunk, jacked, low IQ Australian guys.
If he would have focused on another target of girls he would probably have killed it as usual.
Funnily enough that was his second or third day back home and he got laid with a new girl met at this party we were at. He is not planning to go back to Australia.

I'd say I do the worst with American women - they're just not interested. British women make up the bulk of women I've been with.

Its not that I'm not interested in Vietnamese women: I just want one who is fluent in English, has no kids, and has a half decent job and not financially dependent on me. This is why I usually aim to go out with someone of a similar culture as me.

On the balding:

I think if most men are honest the process of losing their hair is very hard. My decision is that I will wait and see if the meds work for me and if they don't then I will shave it to a grade 0 or grade 1.

On the original post I made:

In retrospect I wrote it after a woman I fancy flaked on me so I was ultra negative.

I had I good think about it yesterday and I reminded myself of the people I know who look worse than me who have decent looking partners. This alone shows that someone of my looks can get a decent girlfriend and that I took a small handful of rejections to heart. My past success should give me that confidence but some reason it didn't in that moment in time.

Regardless, I feel much better now and i'm continuing my path of self improvement.

[wellrockthecity]

(06-07-2018 08:57 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 08:38 AM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

I was actually shocked when he told me that he only got laid with 3 girls in one year in Sidney.

I'm not at all surprised in all honesty, Australia is a girls playground not a guys playground and you're competing, especially in Sydney, with AFL and NRL players, 1.90m upwards and super jacked... oh they're also rich as fuck.

Don't get me wrong, Australia is great to visit but unless you're after a dry summer, head somewhere else. That's not to say that hookups don't happen but you'd have to adjust your standards downwards if you're not on the level of the lads who are chasing the same girls you are.

I don't know enough about Australia to be honest, the ones I met in Europe didn't seem hard to pull at all. They have a very similar vibe to British girls though which I find very unsexy.

I was shocked mainly because this friend of mine gets laid like a motherfucker, this is the guy that once we were in a party and he basically had previously fucked like 10 or 12 out of 20 girls that were there lol
He told me that he felt a bit of racist vibe towards non Australian can you confirm? The guys is Italian so classic Mediterranean look

[Bikal]

(06-07-2018 09:42 AM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

I don't know enough about Australia to be honest, the ones I met in Europe didn't seem hard to pull at all. They have a very similar vibe to British girls though which I find very unsexy.

I was shocked mainly because this friend of mine gets laid like a motherfucker, this is the guy that once we were in a party and he basically had previously fucked like 10 or 12 out of 20 girls that were there lol
He told me that he felt a bit of racist vibe towards non Australian can you confirm? The guys is Italian so classic Mediterranean look

Australians on tour aren't the same as Australians at home whereas Brits on tour are exactly the same as at home

He may do well but anyone visiting Australia can see there are certain types that prevail, check out the current series of Love Island AU, pretty much look alikes just different sizes and hair colour, still jacked though.

You say your friend is of the hipster vibe but was hitting on your typical blonde? He was disadvantaged from get go IME but I wouldn't say it's a race thing, there are loads of Italians in Australia (as well as Middle Eastern) but I'm a Brit who doesn't live there so can't comment pass my experience as a frequent visitor.

[Razor Beast]

It's not cockblocking you, completely reasonable for an average looking guy with game to only pull women on his level looks wise these days. Maybe once in a while you can get a woman better looking than you. Without any game your best option would be women 2-3 points below you in western countries. You need solid game just to be in the game as an average looking guy. If you want high quality women you need something that sets you apart from the crowd. Think mini fame, baller lifestyle, etc. And you have to sell it well too. Figure out a way to set yourself apart from the rest. You wouldn't believe the caliber of guys the average woman has access to these days. Don't set your expectations so high, it's ultra competitive out there. Either you adapt and make the best of what we have to work with or find other meaning in your life besides women.

[MongolianAbroad]

(06-06-2018 09:25 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

Just to make it clear to one poster: I'm not really trying to date Vietnamese women. I can, and have, dated and slept with them with ease. I'm interested in dating white western women in their 20s for a long term relation (I slept around a lot in my 20s and have it out my system).

Then...why would you live in Vietnam?

I could be wrong, but I've heard it's full of Vietnamese folks...

This could be the first case of this we see in the forum, a guy moving to Asia to date white women interested in LTR's...it's like a guy moving to Ukraine to date black girls.

Boggles the mind, but someone's got to be the trailblazer, so here we are.

[Cobra]

White guy in good shape who thinks he can't get white girls. Is this for real?

This is like reverse Elliot Rogers who thought he had a great face so girls should love him. He then proceeded to blame the world for his shortcomings. Replace face with body and then world with face and you have OP.

Tomorrow, if girls reject me, I'm gonna blame my nostrils and then start a thread on it.

[flyinghorse]

(06-07-2018 06:53 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:25 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

Just to make it clear to one poster: I'm not really trying to date Vietnamese women. I can, and have, dated and slept with them with ease. I'm interested in dating white western women in their 20s for a long term relation (I slept around a lot in my 20s and have it out my system).

Then...why would you live in Vietnam?

I could be wrong, but I've heard it's full of Vietnamese folks...

This could be the first case of this we see in the forum, a guy moving to Asia to date white women interested in LTR's...it's like a guy moving to Ukraine to date black girls.

Boggles the mind, but someone's got to be the trailblazer, so here we are.

HAHA

There's more than one reason why people migrate beyond picking up women!

(also, I have dated and slept with Vietnamese women - I just have a preference for people who are fluent in English - which means, with logic, people from UK, America, Australia)

[Rocha]

(06-05-2018 11:34 PM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 07:48 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Shave your fucking head. I don't understand why dudes would allow themselves to be "balding" when they could just be bald. Trust me, you will get more respect if you shave your head.

Before you say "B-B-But i'm white! we look bad bald," I want to point out that I've met at least 3 guy whites on RVF who are muscular and bald and they do fucking fine.

Honestly, I think shaving your head adds +1 point to your face unless you are really that ugly.

I'm on the threshold where I can still look decent with hair.

I wish I could post pictures so I could get honest feedback!

Like when you wonder if a girl is cheating on you, the answer is....

Yeah. Your face is cockblocking you.

I heard some nice cosmetic surgeons in asia, maybe they can help you.

[flyinghorse]

(06-07-2018 11:06 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 11:34 PM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 07:48 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Shave your fucking head. I don't understand why dudes would allow themselves to be "balding" when they could just be bald. Trust me, you will get more respect if you shave your head.

Before you say "B-B-But i'm white! we look bad bald," I want to point out that I've met at least 3 guy whites on RVF who are muscular and bald and they do fucking fine.

Honestly, I think shaving your head adds +1 point to your face unless you are really that ugly.

I'm on the threshold where I can still look decent with hair.

I wish I could post pictures so I could get honest feedback!

Like when you wonder if a girl is cheating on you, the answer is....

Yeah. Your face is cockblocking you.

I heard some nice cosmetic surgeons in asia, maybe they can help you.

My face is cockblocking me is a good one liner.

Just saw this and its relates to the original question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st19d6huwq4

[the-dream]

What about upper class Vietnamese girls who speak fluent English? Are you in a city not big enough to really have them?

[flyinghorse]

(06-07-2018 11:44 PM)the-dream Wrote:  

What about upper class Vietnamese girls who speak fluent English? Are you in a city not big enough to really have them?

They definitely exist, but you might have to approach 20 women to find one who is fluent enough for a conversation.

[Jack Gignac]

(06-05-2018 09:28 PM)blik_min Wrote:  

Regarding the hairloss: I have made great experiences with ru58841. Good Looking Looser has written several articles about that matter if you are interested.

crazy. most guys probably won't get sides like me but I got full blown post finasteride syndrome from using 50mg just once! Been over a year since I used it and still have sides. Close to normal now after a HARDCORE testosterone boosting regimine. My dick and sleep still isn't what it used to be though. Face is a bit more puffy too. Also got massive amounts of white hairs from all the stress and lack of sleep. I'd stay the fuck away from DHT lowering shit besides maybe nizoral/minoxidil if you have to do it.

I've been involved in a community of guys recovering from post finasteride syndrome and we found some natural ways that actually work to fix hair loss. At least have been working so far. Namely malic acid and/or using himilayan sea salt on your scalp when you wash (helps decalcify the scalp which is a safer method than nuking your most powerful anabolic).

[Rush87]

(06-05-2018 08:45 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

But why should it take 50 approaches if 4 out of 5 of them are single? Surely they should be interested - I feel like i'm a decent catch barring my looks.

I'm improving my body (bulking up to 190lbs); I'm finishing my novel; I'm making attempts to be more outgoing.

Another thing I'm doing is asking people out in real life instead of just using tinder.

I should also add that I think I've declined in looks in since hitting 30s: the hair loss and wrinkles may have taken me from a 6.5 to a 5.5 (hence it getting harder out there).

Botox is around $200, will sort out the wrinkles and prevent future wrinkles. You might be 'worried' about seeming like a fag, but you can add two points to your looks with surgery free treatments available at a beauty clinic (Eyebrows, tan, whiten teeth etc].

This will make game a whole lot easier due to the instance confidence boost you have in knowing your looks are good enough.

[TravelerKai]

(06-07-2018 06:53 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:25 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

Just to make it clear to one poster: I'm not really trying to date Vietnamese women. I can, and have, dated and slept with them with ease. I'm interested in dating white western women in their 20s for a long term relation (I slept around a lot in my 20s and have it out my system).

Then...why would you live in Vietnam?

I could be wrong, but I've heard it's full of Vietnamese folks...

This could be the first case of this we see in the forum, a guy moving to Asia to date white women interested in LTR's...it's like a guy moving to Ukraine to date black girls.

Boggles the mind, but someone's got to be the trailblazer, so here we are.

He's far from being the first guy here asking for help or discussing banging white girls in Asia.

Remember that white guy in Thailand, Bangkok I think, had a thread in the Travel section that was trying to bang white girls or only wanted more intel on where to find them? I am pretty sure he was the first on the forum. That was some years ago. I do not remember his forum name but he was very stubborn and adamant about how good that strategy was. I think some of you zinged him about why ask us about it if you say it is such a good place to find them.

I thought he was crazy back then, but nowadays, having been there myself, there are a lot of white people in Thailand. That said, most that I saw there were on vacation with their own men with some gal groups, mostly fat and a donut or two from warpig territory. Classic American girl big fat ass thighs, from Oklahoma and places like that, whoopin and saying heeey. I was like ugh, I need to hurry up and fly back to China if I see too much of this bullshit.

I once got hit on hard by a fat white Vietnam missionary. Had to start talking about my Chinese girlfriend to get her to leave me alone and stop talking to me. Apparently they are over there unlike China, so he should go check them out but once they see his Baphomet tattoo, he's getting cockblocked and maybe dumped LOL!

Just seeing Americans when I go back home, I'm like fuck everyone's thighs are huge as fuck! Takes a while to stop staring at them in bewilderment.

To each his own I guess.

EDIT: Hey if someone can remember that dude's screen name or can find that thread, link it so we can see it again. I cannot find it.

[godfather dust]

Spread your legs out a bit like you have a giant dick, loosen up you look fucking paranoid, shoulders back open up your arms a bit, run whatever internal shit in your head while practicing posture in mirror your posture is trash

Things I think while I'm out: "Damn I'll have these bitches walking crooked/ she likes getting her hair pulled/ she needs a father figure etc" whatever thoughts you need to swag out, your insecurities are obvious in your body language.

I'm uglier than you, you know what I think when I look in the mirror? "I'm a fucking barbarian, these hoes need the dick" etc

Not "my face is cockblocking me."

By the way, none of your self talk needs to be 100% factual.

Maybe try cognitive behavioral therapy.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Jeez - so you are in Vietnam and complaining that you cannot get quality poon? Hehe - that's tantamount to sitting in Nigeria and complaining about the lack of white girls on Tinder.

You have no Game problem - you are just unaware of the market mechanics. If you were in EE/FSU, then you could get laid with lots of white girls in the 6-8 range - maybe even add some rare 9.

But Asian girls would be scarce there..... just warning you.

[Bikal]

(06-08-2018 03:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Jeez - so you are in Vietnam and complaining that you cannot get quality poon? Hehe - that's tantamount to sitting in Nigeria and complaining about the lack of white girls on Tinder.

That's exactly what he's doing, complaining about the lack of white girls willing to sleep with him in Vietnam and unfortunately white girls don't exactly flock in droves to Asia for holidays, they spend some time in Thailand before heading to Australia on their gap year but other than that, not a top destination.

[TravelerKai]

Hey do you guys remember that 40 year old white dude that had a thread asking for help trying to bang Korean girls in the Philippines?

There was even a rare WestIndianArchie sighting in there.

thread-55389.html

Guys doing unorthodox stuff in suboptimal places, gotta use more and better game tactics and think outside of the box. Thinking about your looks all the time will get you nowhere and breeds entitlement like Archie pointed out.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Guys - I have trouble banging black cuties where I am at. Well - I banged 2 of the 5 in my city, but the other 3 are not budging.

What can I do? Is my under-developed bicep cock-blocking me?

OP - don't take it personally man, but your thread should have started with your location.

And on a more serious note:

Every sexual market has it's own mechanic of girls in the respective races. For example - I know for a fact that many 7-9 girls traveling alone to SEA are doing escorting on the side offering their poon to the highest bidder. They still enter Tinder for fun, giggles and potential client selection, but if you go out and expect them to behave the same as in their home-countries, then you are mistaken. Every market is different with the girls available there - sometimes you move to a different city and it's night and day variations.

[El Padrone]

Look at WestIndianArchie's profile and find the thread "so what is this game thingy anyway" or google it. Read it hundreds of times.