[sterling_archer]

Supposedly some of these countries have an ultimate doomsday weapon, a scalar one:

https://www.sheepletv.com/12-things-you-...r-weapons/

[polar]

^ reads like a conspiracy theorist's wet dream. Appeal to authority, deux ex machina, the list goes on.

[CynicalContrarian]

Robots aye?

- EMP
- Electrified water pits.
- Tazers?
- Large tarps to cover the robot & it's optics.
- Basic pit traps.
- Molotov cocktails won't be good for all those circuits & electronics.
- Hell, even a paintball gun to paint the optics may be enough to neuter such machines...

Always more than one way to skin a cat.

[Leonard D Neubache]

They would have to be pretty crappy robots.

Decent killbots are going to perceive your location long before you know where they are. You round a corner and whammo, or they bounce a grenade around the corner if they get tired of waiting, etc.

Honestly I'm starting to think that the retard-bots we see on television are just a form of social conditioning to ease us into the idea that autonomous killing robots are no real threat, and they could be easily defeated if you ever had to fight against them.

The reality is that if you found yourself in a war zone and you needed to do something as simple as cross the street then you might pop your head around the corner for a second and take a glance (but it would be pointless because at 200 yards in a war zone spotting a stationary dog sized bot would be impossible) so you think you're in the clear and you're in mid run half way across the road when an autonomous sniper platform covering 500 meters of thoroughfare makes a windage and elevation correction in the blink of an eye and drops you with a single round by the time you've crossed the median strip.

And that thing doesn't even need legs. Never sleeps. Never blinks. Set it and forget it.

Don't get comfortable with the idea that you could realistically fight these things. In movies nobody ever needs to do anything except fight them and conspicuously absent is the question of travel, food gathering/growing, water collection, shifting entire FOBs because a single moron left a blood trail leading back when a drone "fucked up" on purpose and only hit him in the leg.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< The ones who will be able to fight advanced combat bots and drones are those armies who have their own bot army. The difference in technology is just too great.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I think one of the reasons we're not seeing a dramatic increase in weaponized drone application is that rival nations would be too tempted to hack them (or provide the tech to do so to whatever terrorist organisation they favoured at the time).

At some stage a state actor is going to send bot-backed troops somewhere they're not wanted, and whether its a ground based gun platform or a reaper drone, the bot is mysteriously going to frag the soldiers and then self destruct.

Humans may be semi-reliable meatsacks but once conditioned they're very hard to hack.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I think that what is holding back most application are the batteries. There are certainly high-capacity batteries out there, but then the next question might be asked if they roll out those: "Why not give us cars that can drive 10.000 miles on one charge if the heavy combat bot can run 500 miles?"

But they may be able to side-step the issue by creating nuclear-powered giant bots similar to the nuclear-powered tanks they already had:



The problem was of course the crew and that hitting it would result in their certain death. But if there is no crew then no reason to not move out giant combat-bots who can walk and move forever 24/7:



Even if they are out of ammo, then they can simply crush you.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(05-07-2018 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

an autonomous sniper platform covering 500 meters of thoroughfare makes a windage and elevation correction in the blink of an eye and drops you with a single round by the time you've crossed the median strip.

And that thing doesn't even need legs. Never sleeps. Never blinks. Set it and forget it.

But... but... we'll research the +1 armor and regeneration ability...

[Belgrano]

(05-07-2018 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

They would have to be pretty crappy robots.

Decent killbots are going to perceive your location long before you know where they are. You round a corner and whammo, or they bounce a grenade around the corner if they get tired of waiting, etc.

Honestly I'm starting to think that the retard-bots we see on television are just a form of social conditioning to ease us into the idea that autonomous killing robots are no real threat, and they could be easily defeated if you ever had to fight against them.

The reality is that if you found yourself in a war zone and you needed to do something as simple as cross the street then you might pop your head around the corner for a second and take a glance (but it would be pointless because at 200 yards in a war zone spotting a stationary dog sized bot would be impossible) so you think you're in the clear and you're in mid run half way across the road when an autonomous sniper platform covering 500 meters of thoroughfare makes a windage and elevation correction in the blink of an eye and drops you with a single round by the time you've crossed the median strip.

And that thing doesn't even need legs. Never sleeps. Never blinks. Set it and forget it.

Don't get comfortable with the idea that you could realistically fight these things. In movies nobody ever needs to do anything except fight them and conspicuously absent is the question of travel, food gathering/growing, water collection, shifting entire FOBs because a single moron left a blood trail leading back when a drone "fucked up" on purpose and only hit him in the leg.

Makes me think about this movie:



Very underrated, scared the shit out of me when I first saw it as a young teenager. Based on the Philip K. Dick story "Second Variety".
Roger Ebert called it "one of the most depressing movies of all time". And you know he's seen a lot of movies.