[Johnnyvee]

I thought I might be a good idea to have a common thread dealing with technological advancement in an environment that seems to be changing at an ever faster rate. I`m thinking of both new inventions and breakthrough`s in various fields, but also observations in your daily life of technological change that effects your life. (Like self driving buses, automated check-out at the supermarket etc.)
Subjects that would fall under these definitions would be, for example;

-Artificial Intelligence
-Automation of all sorts (cars, planes etc.)
-Robotics/drones
-Longevity-radical life extension
-Medicine
-Nanotechnology
-Quantum computing
-Computing in general
-Virtual reality


Just for some inspiration;

[Tactician]

Hey, I'll just throw this out there:

Singularity2050 is one of the best blogs for this topic. It primarily deals the effects of 'accelerating change.'

Some of us here might recognize The Misandry Bubble from back in 2010.

Over the years, since around '14, I've been observing off and on how manosphere concepts have been percolating into the mainstream consciousness. You'd see this happening in comment sections of articles all the time (Article vs Comment section) so much that a ton of news sites straight up removed the comment section entirely.

Following the theme of accelerating change, over the years I'd see these manosphere concepts pop up more and more, and I do think that Feminism in its current overblown form will be largely defunct somewhere around 2020-2022 (a much milder form of Feminism will always exist due to white knights and stuff). The Misandry Bubble lays out why the author thinks this will happen.

Anyway, the blog isn't really about manosphere stuff, but Futurism in general. Even though I'm not a particularly smart guy, the blog helped me to think 'exponentially' or in terms of 'accelerating change.'

For example, it's fascinating to see how the author used the approximate rate of increases in telescopic power + computing power to estimate that by around 2030 if we haven't found evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations, they are probably extremely rare as hell or we might even be alone in the universe. See:Seti and the singularity

The blog can be a tough read (not the writing style, but the content), however the ideas have helped me make some successful predictions. There's a huge range of topics, pretty much all of the ones OP listed + stuff like economics and finance. In particular, I can see the blog being very useful for tech savvy entrepreneurs who are looking for sectors filled with inefficiencies that are overdue to be replaced by technology.

[Johnnyvee]

(04-27-2018 10:20 PM)Tactician Wrote:  

Hey, I'll just throw this out there:

Singularity2050 is one of the best blogs for this topic. It primarily deals the effects of 'accelerating change.'

Some of us here might recognize The Misandry Bubble from back in 2010.

Over the years, since around '14, I've been observing off and on how manosphere concepts have been percolating into the mainstream consciousness. You'd see this happening in comment sections of articles all the time (Article vs Comment section) so much that a ton of news sites straight up removed the comment section entirely.

Following the theme of accelerating change, over the years I'd see these manosphere concepts pop up more and more, and I do think that Feminism in its current overblown form will be largely defunct somewhere around 2020-2022 (a much milder form of Feminism will always exist due to white knights and stuff). The Misandry Bubble lays out why the author thinks this will happen.

Anyway, the blog isn't really about manosphere stuff, but Futurism in general. Even though I'm not a particularly smart guy, the blog helped me to think 'exponentially' or in terms of 'accelerating change.'

For example, it's fascinating to see how the author used the approximate rate of increases in telescopic power + computing power to estimate that by around 2030 if we haven't found evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations, they are probably extremely rare as hell or we might even be alone in the universe. See:Seti and the singularity

The blog can be a tough read (not the writing style, but the content), however the ideas have helped me make some successful predictions. There's a huge range of topics, pretty much all of the ones OP listed + stuff like economics and finance. In particular, I can see the blog being very useful for tech savvy entrepreneurs who are looking for sectors filled with inefficiencies that are overdue to be replaced by technology.

Thx for the tip, wasen`t familiar with that site.

[blck]

(04-27-2018 10:20 PM)Tactician Wrote:  

For example, it's fascinating to see how the author used the approximate rate of increases in telescopic power + computing power to estimate that by around 2030 if we haven't found evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations, they are probably extremely rare as hell or we might even be alone in the universe. See:Seti and the singularity

Interesting that you brought that up and it would be even more if people were able to believe & open to discuss it in that cognitive space but the fact is that nobody here want to know about that kind of revelations, that is why the US govt kept a lot of documents sealed away from peons eye.

Anyway you might enjoy this talk about the book on this matter if the subject is raising your internet detective skills:

Amazon: UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry Wrote:

Governments around the world have had to deal with the UFO phenomenon for a good part of a century. How and why they did so is the subject of UFOs and Government, a history that for the first time tells the story from the perspective of the governments themselves. It's a perspective that reveals a great deal about what we citizens have seen, and puzzled over, from the "outside" for so many years.

The story, which is unmasked by the governments' own documents, explains much that is new, or at least not commonly known, about the seriousness with which the military and intelligence communities approached the UFO problem internally. Those approaches were not taken lightly. In fact, they were considered matters of national security. At the same time, the story reveals how a subject with such apparent depth of experience and interest became treated as if it were a triviality. And it explains why one government, the United States government, deemed it wise, and perhaps even necessary, to treat it so. Though the book focuses primarily on the U. S. government's response to the UFO phenomenon, also included is the treatment of the subject by the governments of Sweden, Australia, France, Spain, and other countries.

This large-format, fully illustrated book is the result of a team effort that called itself "The UFO History Group," a collection of veteran UFO historians and researchers who spent more than four years researching, consulting, writing, and editing to present a work of historical scholarship on government response to the UFO phenomenon. Michael Swords was the primary author of the United States chapters. The work was coordinated and edited by Robert Powell. Clas Svahn, Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos, Bill Chalker, and Robert Powell contributed country chapters. Jan Aldrich was the primary content consultant, with additional content consultation and writing coming from Barry Greenwood and Richard Thieme. Steve Purcell was the primary photo illustration editor.

From the foreword by Jerome Clark: "While UFOs and Government revisits an often unhappy history, the reading of it is far from an unhappy experience. The authors, eloquent, intelligent, sophisticated, and conscientious, provide us with the first credible, comprehensive overview of official UFO history in many years... Most of the current volume deals with U.S. military and intelligence responses to the UFO phenomenon, but it also features richly informative chapters that expand the story across the international arena. If you're looking for an example of a nation that dealt productively with the UFO reports that came its official way, you will take heart in the chapter on the French projects... From here on, every responsible treatment of UFOs and government will have to cite UFOs and Government prominently among its sources... this is the real story as accurately as it can be reconstructed in the second decade of the new century. I expect to keep my copy close at hand and to return to it often. While it cannot be said of many books, UFO-themed or otherwise, this is among the essential ones. Stray from it at your peril."

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I feel like there is more than enough content to write a sci fi novel with people utilizing tech we already have:

-cryptocurrencies
-normalization of anabolic steroids + game + internet fame for young men to stand out
-drone warfare/terrorism
-social media displacing legacy media
-Muslim takeover of Europe
-fall of West due to men checking out
-corporations become countries, governments decline

Looked at the misandry bubble article. It's very well written. I agree mostly about the 4 horsemen

1. Game - as Roosh pointed out it'll be more combination of game/roids/fame. I think a soft combination of roids and basic game will be what is adopted.

2. Adult entertainment - it's going to be porn for another decade or two. I don't see AI sexdoll waifus being a thing for a while.

3. Globalization - definitely. Expatriation will only increase. Islam will take over Europe. The rest of the west will continue to eat itself and decline. I'm not sure what will happen with medical tourism. I think we are on the verge of a breakthrough anyday now

4. Male Economic Disengagement and Resultant Tax-Base Erosion - definitely happening as more corporations offshore their profit and regular men will start doing the same with private cryptocurrencies. It's going to be very interesting to see what will happen to the welfare state over the next decade. I think crypto is a game changer when it comes to separating money and state.

[Dragan]

Add to that, the perfection of VR and we're looking at some people who are going to be seriously disaffected in their bedrooms like the guys in Japan. I think trends in public health in the coming years will be to decriminalize drugs (already seeing this with cannabis) decriminalizing may have a moderate upward effect on usage rates.

Let's talk about Tinder: at some point in the near future, it's going to be the default way of meeting girls, there really won't be much approaching. Approaching may even be criminalized because it is hate speech, or harassment, or whatever they want to call it. They're already trying to criminalize such things in the UK. It is just scary to me that they have control of the algorithms--these algorithms are going to control every aspect of our lives.

[blck]

@Burner
You can only put blinders on your eyes if you want, all the explanations for what you cited above are available everywhere for everyone to search:

Nobody knows who exactly invented the first cryptocur. and who is making its value fluctuate (My idea: Those who made it, let the people "on the edge" adopt it as an outcast currency, then democratize it when the masses hop on the train thinking that they made their own choice and then make it world first trading currency)

Roids + Game ? It's only the facade, things will go tinder-like coupled with 23andMe, you'll have your genetic code ready to show if woman want to reproduce with same genes/tribe man at best or to close old case at worst, theory on microchimerism and other studies to blame women who fuck out of their race will become obsolete then.

Drone ? Only the Human/Machine Interface will change the way we interface with it, from radiocommand to Deported Display (Oculus) to brain computing, the real threat will be the invasion of seemingly inofensive robots (Atlas from Alphabet's INC Boston Dynamics) who'll be able to spy on people awake or in their sleep.

Worry about SocMed ? You should worry about the data you share through them because you're the product not the client (Data mining, Facebook getting your medical data)

Fall of the west due to men checking out, of course, replaced by hords of muslim savages who know what war is like and won't let themselves demoted by weak women who will flock to carry their genes, you'll never find one of them discussing what to say to women on forums as we do here...

Corporations becoming countries and Govt decline, already in place since decades at least, Multinational and metanational already took over the world and are, now, putting pressure on presidents of countries if they refuse to follow.

So, yes, we have a lot to discuss here but what the thread intended to do was to talk about what could be technological breakthrough and where we imagine the world going:
Past vs Future, I'll gather my thoughts to post about what I see and how to get to it.

[polar]

So what potentially positive trends does everyone see?

What profit opportunities?

What changes to take advantage of?

What fields to get into, invest into, etc.?

There are always two sides to each coin.

[Johnnyvee]

(05-01-2018 03:27 PM)polar Wrote:  

So what potentially positive trends does everyone see?

What profit opportunities?

What changes to take advantage of?

What fields to get into, invest into, etc.?

There are always two sides to each coin.

I happen to think that the next really big thing is gonna be anti-aging/age reversal. A lot of things are in the making, and have been for a long time, that the general public is totally clueless about. Particularly with telomere biology and the possibility of age reversal/cure. I did a piece on it a few month`s back that details what it`s all about, and some dramatic breakthrough`s that I think could come this fall already. thread-67103.html

Companies like Sierra sciences, Libella, BioViva, Life-length etc. are both tiny and very underfunded, but they are on track towards a real cure for ageing and age related diseases. If there was a simple way to invest I would have done it already, unfortunately these companies are not public, and only accept larger/institutional investors. (But I guess you could call them and ask if they need some money Anyway, big-pharma is staying out of gene therapy mostly, because it threatens there business model of; keeping people in a diseased state as long as possible in order make money. In other words managing symptoms, rather than actually curing disease. Gene therapy can address the underlying cause(s) of all disease and provide an actual cure. You might argue that there is basically only one disease, namely ageing.

So if these tiny companies succeed, which I think they just might, if you could find a way to expose yourself financially, the sky would be the limit.

[HermeticAlly]

Living longer is interesting, but I'd rather stay looking and feeling thirty until I suddenly keel over dead at age seventy, than live to 100-120 as an old person for over half my life. From a more existential point of view, I'm a bit skeptical that living a longer lifespan would even be good for us. It may be akin to how smartphones have negatively impacted our cultural character.

[YoungBlade]

Sounds like y'all might be interested in this:

I, personally, am on the dragon's side.

[Johnnyvee]

(05-01-2018 05:52 PM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  

Living longer is interesting, but I'd rather stay looking and feeling thirty until I suddenly keel over dead at age seventy, than live to 100-120 as an old person for over half my life. From a more existential point of view, I'm a bit skeptical that living a longer lifespan would even be good for us. It may be akin to how smartphones have negatively impacted our cultural character.

Staying biologically young is what we`re talking about here, not living a long time as an old person. That`s the whole point of these potential treatments, so to speak.

As for philosophical, cultural etc. aspects of anti-aging, well there`s tons to be said about that. It might be a way to save the European genome though, cause we`ll never get our women to breed at replacement rate or above again. In fact I expect the fertility rates to drop as low as 1 child per woman in the Eurozone by mid to end century. (For white women in the Eurozone that is.)

[Enoch]

(05-01-2018 04:01 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 03:27 PM)polar Wrote:  

So what potentially positive trends does everyone see?

What profit opportunities?

What changes to take advantage of?

What fields to get into, invest into, etc.?

There are always two sides to each coin.

I happen to think that the next really big thing is gonna be anti-aging/age reversal. A lot of things are in the making, and have been for a long time, that the general public is totally clueless about. Particularly with telomere biology and the possibility of age reversal/cure. I did a piece on it a few month`s back that details what it`s all about, and some dramatic breakthrough`s that I think could come this fall already. thread-67103.html

Companies like Sierra sciences, Libella, BioViva, Life-length etc. are both tiny and very underfunded, but they are on track towards a real cure for ageing and age related diseases. If there was a simple way to invest I would have done it already, unfortunately these companies are not public, and only accept larger/institutional investors. (But I guess you could call them and ask if they need some money Anyway, big-pharma is staying out of gene therapy mostly, because it threatens there business model of; keeping people in a diseased state as long as possible in order make money. In other words managing symptoms, rather than actually curing disease. Gene therapy can address the underlying cause(s) of all disease and provide an actual cure. You might argue that there is basically only one disease, namely ageing.

So if these tiny companies succeed, which I think they just might, if you could find a way to expose yourself financially, the sky would be the limit.

Absolutely. Just think about how many commercials you see for face creams and shit to make middle aged women look younger.

Imagine a product that actually, fundamentally, slows down aging.

[Johnnyvee]

(05-01-2018 06:55 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 04:01 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 03:27 PM)polar Wrote:  

So what potentially positive trends does everyone see?

What profit opportunities?

What changes to take advantage of?

What fields to get into, invest into, etc.?

There are always two sides to each coin.

I happen to think that the next really big thing is gonna be anti-aging/age reversal. A lot of things are in the making, and have been for a long time, that the general public is totally clueless about. Particularly with telomere biology and the possibility of age reversal/cure. I did a piece on it a few month`s back that details what it`s all about, and some dramatic breakthrough`s that I think could come this fall already. thread-67103.html

Companies like Sierra sciences, Libella, BioViva, Life-length etc. are both tiny and very underfunded, but they are on track towards a real cure for ageing and age related diseases. If there was a simple way to invest I would have done it already, unfortunately these companies are not public, and only accept larger/institutional investors. (But I guess you could call them and ask if they need some money Anyway, big-pharma is staying out of gene therapy mostly, because it threatens there business model of; keeping people in a diseased state as long as possible in order make money. In other words managing symptoms, rather than actually curing disease. Gene therapy can address the underlying cause(s) of all disease and provide an actual cure. You might argue that there is basically only one disease, namely ageing.

So if these tiny companies succeed, which I think they just might, if you could find a way to expose yourself financially, the sky would be the limit.

Absolutely. Just think about how many commercials you see for face creams and shit to make middle aged women look younger.

Imagine a product that actually, fundamentally, slows down aging.

Yeah, female vanity alone would make this a huge thing. In fact there is a skin cream that does this already (slows skin ageing) called one truth TAM818.

[BlueMark]

We'll have fusion reactors in 10 years. /s

[blck]

Here is my chronology (engaging only me) on Humans needs of evolution, we're at the end of the 1 and getting rapidly to the 2.
BioHacking (2) is what human need to being able to interface more rapidly and instinctively with his surroundings in any way possible:

1) IT revolution
2) BioHacking
3) Human Re engineering
4) Space Mining

So for investment, as nobody here got Elon Musk money to spend, we should look at a 5y return:
Anything that is changing completely the way human interact with his environment (1 2) (from new sources of energy to extreme body modifications)
Any apps that carry lots of data/metadata, not for the sake of the apps but more for who the data gathered will be interesting for (uber is a gold mine for Intelligence agencies, this might be why they have been there for so long)
Anything that promise human to enhance his body/senses/cognition(internally/externally).

(05-01-2018 03:27 PM)polar Wrote:  

There are always two sides to each coin.

Exactly that why you should always think as a source of income/investment project that promise to disable the advancement proposed by technology.
Example: As virtual assistants (Alexa/Google/Siri) are a new breakthrough in how people manage their daily live it seems that all those devices are listening when you need them to but also when you don't...
Finding a way to block or disable that indiscreet hear should be taking in consideration because avoiding those will only work for some time until you get labeled as "not in touch with the new reality" meaning you're too old to understand what is talked about.

[redpillage]

(05-02-2018 02:50 AM)BlueMark Wrote:  

We'll have fusion reactors in 10 years. /s

A prototype - maybe. But commercially produced energy based on fusion reactors I'd wager it'll take another ten years, so maybe around 2025 - 2030. I hope I'll be alive to witness that.

But frankly speaking the U.S. is already energy self sufficient, given oil sands, shale, the amounts of NG we have access to. There's no reason to keep babysitting the fucking middle East.

[redpillage]

By the way did any of you ever read Neuromancer by William Gibson? I read in the 80s and thus far everything he has predicted, e.g. VR, mega corporations, globalism, etc. has played out almost exactly per his script. I think there is a reason why his stories have never been made into a movie - too close to reality?

[blck]

(05-02-2018 04:34 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

By the way did any of you ever read Neuromancer by William Gibson? I read in the 80s and thus far everything he has predicted, e.g. VR, mega corporations, globalism, etc. has played out almost exactly per his script. I think there is a reason why his stories have never been made into a movie - too close to reality?

Exact and he was not the only one:
Jules Vern "From Earth to the moon"
Aldous Huxley "Brave New World"
Neuromancer

What is noticeable is that from Vision (Time the book was written) to Reality (Achievement of what was said in the book) the time shorten.

[Johnnyvee]

(05-02-2018 05:41 AM)blck Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 04:34 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

By the way did any of you ever read Neuromancer by William Gibson? I read in the 80s and thus far everything he has predicted, e.g. VR, mega corporations, globalism, etc. has played out almost exactly per his script. I think there is a reason why his stories have never been made into a movie - too close to reality?

Exact and he was not the only one:
Jules Vern "From Earth to the moon"
Aldous Huxley "Brave New World"
Neuromancer

What is noticeable is that from Vision (Time the book was written) to Reality (Achievement of what was said in the book) the time shorten.

Next year it`s 40 year`s since man first ventured to the moon though. Say`s a lot about just how much ahead of it`s time, or maybe more precisely, how great an achievement it was in spite of what was by today`s standards very basic technological capacity.

I think we might be on the verge of a new great era of space exploration. Considering space X, and also Trump and the NASA director Bridenstine both seeming quite ambitious about returning to the moon, going to Mars etc. http://spacenews.com/bridenstine-introdu...sance-act/

[blck]

As a sidebar, there is this other post by Nemencine in 2014 "Dystopian Manospheric Visions & Science" that give great insights/predictions on tech advancements, worth the read

[Johnnyvee]

(05-02-2018 02:52 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 05:41 AM)blck Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 04:34 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

By the way did any of you ever read Neuromancer by William Gibson? I read in the 80s and thus far everything he has predicted, e.g. VR, mega corporations, globalism, etc. has played out almost exactly per his script. I think there is a reason why his stories have never been made into a movie - too close to reality?

Exact and he was not the only one:
Jules Vern "From Earth to the moon"
Aldous Huxley "Brave New World"
Neuromancer

What is noticeable is that from Vision (Time the book was written) to Reality (Achievement of what was said in the book) the time shorten.

Next year it`s 40 year`s since man first ventured to the moon though. Say`s a lot about just how much ahead of it`s time, or maybe more precisely, how great an achievement it was in spite of what was by today`s standards very basic technological capacity.

I think we might be on the verge of a new great era of space exploration. Considering space X, and also Trump and the NASA director Bridenstine both seeming quite ambitious about returning to the moon, going to Mars etc. http://spacenews.com/bridenstine-introdu...sance-act/

Edit, next year it`s 50 years since man first ventured the moon

[Enoch]

(05-02-2018 02:52 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 05:41 AM)blck Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 04:34 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

By the way did any of you ever read Neuromancer by William Gibson? I read in the 80s and thus far everything he has predicted, e.g. VR, mega corporations, globalism, etc. has played out almost exactly per his script. I think there is a reason why his stories have never been made into a movie - too close to reality?

Exact and he was not the only one:
Jules Vern "From Earth to the moon"
Aldous Huxley "Brave New World"
Neuromancer

What is noticeable is that from Vision (Time the book was written) to Reality (Achievement of what was said in the book) the time shorten.

Next year it`s 40 year`s since man first ventured to the moon though. Say`s a lot about just how much ahead of it`s time, or maybe more precisely, how great an achievement it was in spite of what was by today`s standards very basic technological capacity.

I think we might be on the verge of a new great era of space exploration. Considering space X, and also Trump and the NASA director Bridenstine both seeming quite ambitious about returning to the moon, going to Mars etc. http://spacenews.com/bridenstine-introdu...sance-act/

That was probably the apex of America. Family formation could occur with a single earner household, skilled labor was valued, and America was one nation with minor differences of opinion.

I used to think smartphones & the internet made life better, now I am now 100% convinced they make life worse.

[demolition]

(05-02-2018 04:34 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

By the way did any of you ever read Neuromancer by William Gibson? I read in the 80s and thus far everything he has predicted, e.g. VR, mega corporations, globalism, etc. has played out almost exactly per his script. I think there is a reason why his stories have never been made into a movie - too close to reality?

Johnny Mnemonic starring Keanu Reeves.

I'm not sure about the state of science fiction before Gibson arrived. It seems like most of the predictions he made are quite banal but that's also one of the signs of being prophetic. The entire landscape changes afterwards.

[Johnnyvee]

Next gen VR headsets

So Oculus has a new VR headset out. Oculus Go. I`ve not been impressed with what I`ve tried so far, and it seems the technology has not come far enough yet to really be of value or mass appeal. This looks quite impressive though, anyone tried it yet?

They had to put trannies in there.

(Oculus also has a new model in the making that features a 140 degree field of view. Oculus half Dome.)

In related news Apple is working on a super-sophisticated VR headset;

"Meanwhile, Apple is working on a powerful wireless headset for AR and VR, for 2020 release, CNET reported Friday, based on sources (Apple has not commented).* Code-named T288, the headset will feature two super-high-resolution 8K** (four times higher resolution than today’s 4K TVs) displays (for each eye), making the VR and AR images look highly lifelike — way beyond any devices currently available on the market.
To handle that extremely high resolution (and associated data rate) while connecting to an external processor box, T288 will use high-speed, short-range 60GHz wireless technology called WiGig, capable of data transfer rates up to 7 Gbit/s. The headset would also use a smaller, faster, more-power-efficient 5-nanometer-node processor, to be designed by Apple"
http://www.kurzweilai.net/round-up-new-h...y-headsets

Looks like the development in VR is moving along pretty fast.