[mycleverid]

South Dakota has hell filling job positions. It's real man's work, too. No degree required.

Natural gas and oil jobs will be coming soon to a neighborhood near you. Pennsylvania's flooded with drilling. Ohio's getting ready to open up, too. If a man wants work in America, it's here. Drilling jobs pay well. And global energy demand ain't going down anytime soon.

Yeah, you may get incinerated or ground up in the process. Goes with the territory.

And for those not up for the real work, lots of business sprouts up in the periphery of every boom. More money was made during the California Gold Rush running hotels and restaurants than was ever taken from the ground. Where there's opportunity, there's usually even more opportunity.

An older friend of mine who was already a millionaire (barely) made a killing selling leases on land he bought for nothing. Those companies that bought the leases from him are now selling to companies like Chevron and making a killing. Pull up a map and speculate how far the Marcellus Shale formation's deep deposits can go beyond their current known ranges.

There's money to be made whether you're willing to do real work or not.

[velkrum]

Natural Gas...isn't that destroying the environment through fracking ?

[mycleverid]

(09-23-2011 11:39 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

Natural Gas...isn't that destroying the environment through fracking ?

Today's vocabulary word: regulatory capture.

The current legal framework for frack water regulation is that no one can ask what the fuck they're using to dissolves those nice rocks because the solvents are a trade secret.

Also, no politician or court in America is gonna touch the natural gas industry until unemployment goes below 7%. No one has the balls to do it.

Hell, in Pennsylvania regulatory capture is so thorough that the industry doesn't even pay reclamation fees to the state to fix land they fuck or help communities they poison.

[Roosh]

(09-23-2011 08:20 PM)CupCake Wrote:  

I've always wanted to go to Poland and Roosh's stories are makin' me want to sell my kidney for some travel money. I'm afraid I might wife up while over there though.

Have you considered the teaching english route? It's a tough life but it'll get you out of the states. Read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/English-Teacher-Te...379&sr=8-1

[Hooligan Harry]

You yanks dont appreciate how in demand your skills are worldwide sometimes. Not to mention a work ethic that is matched only by the Japs, English and Germans really. The world copies your business models and is still light years behind in so many areas. Also, the quality of your tertiary educational institutions is pretty much without par.

Finance majors would be gobbled up in Singapore and Hong Kong. Engineers would be snapped up all over South America. I know engineers in Russia that make 150k-200k a year and pay no real tax while they fuck the local villages teenagers.

There are some degrees that will serve you well everywhere. Sciences and some finance degrees. Best thing to do is learn a language and move to developing countries. The average wage is low, but skilled people in developing economies earn a ton, and with low cost of living your standard of living is very high.

Australia is crying for people at the moment. We need doctors, engineers, finance majors, nurses, you name it. There is a whole world out there and maybe you need to be skipping the county with that degree and see what options you have abroad. You may be surprised to see you are much better off.

The world is changing and its our generation that will feel the pinch the most. The baby boomers fucked us badly, and the very liberal and leftist approach our governments are taking dont bode well for any of the developed economies long term IMO

[Ohiogang]

(09-24-2011 06:49 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

You yanks dont appreciate how in demand your skills are worldwide sometimes. Not to mention a work ethic that is matched only by the Japs, English and Germans really. The world copies your business models and is still light years behind in so many areas. Also, the quality of your tertiary educational institutions is pretty much without par.

Finance majors would be gobbled up in Singapore and Hong Kong. Engineers would be snapped up all over South America. I know engineers in Russia that make 150k-200k a year and pay no real tax while they fuck the local villages teenagers.

Are these engineers in Russia foreign?

[velkrum]

(09-24-2011 06:49 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

You yanks dont appreciate how in demand your skills are worldwide sometimes.

There are some degrees that will serve you well everywhere. Sciences and some finance degrees. Best thing to do is learn a language and move to developing countries.

We need doctors, engineers, finance majors, nurses, you name it. There is a whole world out there and maybe you need to be skipping the county with that degree and see what options you have abroad. You may be surprised to see you are much better off.

FUCK ! see i never even thought about this. I feel there is always a way to come out of life a winner living in luxury, you just gotta learn about how to go about doing it ! This forum is so full of good ideas NO ONE should be complaining about a lack of options or opportunities !

[mycleverid]

(09-24-2011 06:49 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

You yanks dont appreciate how in demand your skills are worldwide sometimes.

The problem is to get a work visa in many countries, we have to prove our hiring wouldn't cause a qualified local to not be hired.

[Vicious]

These job prospects in oil & gas popping up on the US east coast at the moment. Link to the agencies doing the recruiting? I have a background in this field and always wanted to do a couple of years in the US.

[Hooligan Harry]

@Ohio

Yep. While Russian engineers are no mugs, many of the contracts are held by foreign companies. Not only that, but foreign experience is highly valued. More experience with modern practice and methods. There are skill shortages all over the world right now and Russia has a problem with skills. Half the engineers there could not even speak functional Russian at times.

@my clever kid

Yes you need visas, but your American passport opens far more doors than the average passport. Not to mention that many companies will sponsor you. I mean here is jst one example. This is one company

http://www.santos.ie/jobs.php

Jobs all over the world for qualified people. You would make good money by American standards, but that money in those countries would be like earning 4-5 times as much back home.

Hit the web guys. Just because the USA is going through a rough patch does not mean the rest of the world has descended into chaos. Engineers in Aus these days are not pulling anything less than 130k a year. My father contracts out at $110 an hour as a draftsman these days. We sit at parity with the USD.

Here, BHP advertising jobs in Chile, Canada, Australia, Singapore

http://internaljobs.bhpbilliton.com/sear...anguage=en

If you have technical skills in particular, there are a ton of options abroad. Throw into the mix American college degrees and yo are not going to have too many problems. Its not all doom and gloom, and the USA is not the only place your skills are needed.

[Jevioso]

A lot of American men, have lost a lot of confidence in themselves because they're scared to really conquer the world. One of the reasons why people complain so much about corporations is that they're the only people who have really taken full advantage of globalization. Many people have been indoctrinated into believing that they can only find their happiness here, where yet there is a world, willing to embrace your creative mind and genius, yet you choose to wither away in the basements of your mothers and father's houses, because you're scared of the unknown; it's not your fault though.

From the age of 3, you've been raised to see the worse in the world, you've been raised to see the worse of Europe, the worse of Africa and the worse of Asia, you've been taught to be depressed and enslaved by loans and debt, rather than to stand on your own in a nation free, where your skills and passion for life would not only enable you to flourish, but would make you happy. Uncover your eyes, the American mind, it's creativity and it's ambition, have been the driving force in the world decades, and not much has changed. Your desire to partake in a system that swallows you in and spits you out, is the reason why so many of your bosses treat you like shit. Go where you're wanted, and you'll be amazed how much you can accomplish.

And if they don't want you here, trust me they want you somewhere.

[Aliblahba]

(09-24-2011 09:39 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

These job prospects in oil & gas popping up on the US east coast at the moment. Link to the agencies doing the recruiting? I have a background in this field and always wanted to do a couple of years in the US.

Check out rigzone.com and oilcareers.com. The Gulf of Mexico is always hiring. I did some work on a boat owned by Solstad shipping. The boat was the Normand Clipper. DUDE. You would clean house in the South. A Swedish accent would kill it here. I'll ask around for whose hiring and let you know.

@Cupcake- Look hard for jobs in the Dakotas. I was recently working w/ a guy that left the ME to work up there. The money was good. You could suffer up there and bank the cash to take off for 6 and travel abroad.

@Hooligan Harry- +1 from me. Your wisdom is appreciated. If we ever meetup I got the first round.

To work in the OZ all you need is a formal school and 2 years experience. The immigration website has a hot job list. I can't find it again. Almost every tech skill was listed, even down to motorcycle mechanics.

[CupCake]

(09-24-2011 12:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

@Cupcake- Look hard for jobs in the Dakotas. I was recently working w/ a guy that left the ME to work up there. The money was good. You could suffer up there and bank the cash to take off for 6 and travel abroad.

Suffering in the Dakotas would be suffering indeed. I've driven through there once and wondered why anyone would want to live there. Do you know anything about the female prospects look like in places like that (especially the drilling areas)? I don't see ND as a place women flock to.

[Aliblahba]

(09-25-2011 09:33 AM)CupCake Wrote:  

(09-24-2011 12:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

@Cupcake- Look hard for jobs in the Dakotas. I was recently working w/ a guy that left the ME to work up there. The money was good. You could suffer up there and bank the cash to take off for 6 and travel abroad.

Suffering in the Dakotas would be suffering indeed. I've driven through there once and wondered why anyone would want to live there. Do you know anything about the female prospects look like in places like that (especially the drilling areas)? I don't see ND as a place women flock to.

I'd search POF, Badoo, and OKC to get an idea of the wimminz up there. It might be slim pickings but if you got swag from somewhere else it shouldn't be too hard.

I speak from lots of experience about going through periods not getting laid. Whether on a military vessel, offshore boat, or months at a time in war zone's. It sucks, but every two weeks when you get a fat ass check it keeps things in perspective. Besides, working 84 hr. per week and working out won't leave much time to chase tail. It makes sense to hunker down with a g/f if you can.

Now for the positive. When you do 6 months in a shithole not getting laid you come out hungry. And driven. It's like bloodlust for pussy. You will truly not give a fuck and rejection is the last thing on your mind. In this stage bitches won't blow you out anyway. (except for Eurotrash ho's) Sun Tzu will applaud you on your tenacity in mauling the enemy. And top that with the confidence of having a fat bank roll and no bills? Shit. You will become Ghengis fucking Khan. I've used this mindset to raze Athens, Sarasota, London, and Newcastle, among others.

Allot some of that dosh to build your swooping armor. A tailored suit makes me feel invincible. And some Nason's.

And the competition? There will be none. When some douche tries to invite himself in the convo, I'll flex and give him the 1000 yard stare. My hackles raise. That manky pussy is MINE.

Go forth now Cupcake and become the Super Saiyan of Pussy Purveyin'.

[el mechanico]

(09-25-2011 09:33 AM)CupCake Wrote:  

(09-24-2011 12:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

@Cupcake- Look hard for jobs in the Dakotas. I was recently working w/ a guy that left the ME to work up there. The money was good. You could suffer up there and bank the cash to take off for 6 and travel abroad.

Suffering in the Dakotas would be suffering indeed. I've driven through there once and wondered why anyone would want to live there. Do you know anything about the female prospects look like in places like that (especially the drilling areas)? I don't see ND as a place women flock to.

Why don't you just come to Florida? Almost everyone has a shitty job and parties/fucks like crazy. If you have any degree here most the girls will respect you and it will put you on the top of the job list.

This is what you need to work here: Show up....Not Drunk....If you can pass a drug test it puts you in front of 80% of the others.

If you are interested I will post sites to get to all the good employers in this area. Raymond James etc.

Even a telemarketing job here will put you waist deep in pussy.

[OSL]

If anyone is looking for consultations (temporarily free) for getting a white collar job in Asia Pacific, PM me.

Two spots left open. I've successfully placed all my previous consultees over the summer in Hong Kong, China, and Korea.

[Aliblahba]

(09-25-2011 10:49 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(09-25-2011 09:33 AM)CupCake Wrote:  

(09-24-2011 12:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

@Cupcake- Look hard for jobs in the Dakotas. I was recently working w/ a guy that left the ME to work up there. The money was good. You could suffer up there and bank the cash to take off for 6 and travel abroad.

Suffering in the Dakotas would be suffering indeed. I've driven through there once and wondered why anyone would want to live there. Do you know anything about the female prospects look like in places like that (especially the drilling areas)? I don't see ND as a place women flock to.

Why don't you just come to Florida? Almost everyone has a shitty job and parties/fucks like crazy. If you have any degree here most the girls will respect you and it will put you on the top of the job list.

This is what you need to work here: Show up....Not Drunk....If you can pass a drug test it puts you in front of 80% of the others.

If you are interested I will post sites to get to all the good employers in this area. Raymond James etc.

Even a telemarketing job here will put you waist deep in pussy.

You hiring anyone to turn a wrench for the next month?

[cool]

I envy anyone with a petroleum engineering degree. Oil exploration in the US is exploding.

I'm heavily invested in small oil companies, speculating that they'll be bought out by big oil.

If you want an example of one that was recently snatched up, look at Petrohawk (HK). It was bought out by BHP this past summer. My dad made about $8K on that deal.

[hydrogonian]

(09-23-2011 03:11 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 04:24 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

I've though about this at some length in the past, and I'd recommend that everyone get a degree, but perhaps wait until you are 21-22 to start. Why? Well, first, you'll have a better and easier time fucking every 18 year old in sight.

Second, because its a way to spend four years attaining a piece of paper that can act as a fail-safe if approached the right way.

Very few people take anyone who is under 23-24 seriously in the workplace, anyway, unless you join the army or become a cop/fireman (both increasingly demand college degrees for the job).

Not getting a degree, today, DEMANDS that you become successful by creating a product or service on your own. There is no real future in any employment scenario where you will have a decent life without a degree. Exceptions: cop, soldier, other low level or dangerous government positions. You can get paid in all of these.

Its all about strategy.

Even if you have no current desire to become a teacher or, god forbid, a medical services person, get a degree in one of those fields. That way, you can always get a job that will at least allow you some dignity and perhaps fulfillment should the business ideas fail or until you become experienced enough to think of a business idea that will work.

Figuring out, at 27-30 years old, that you need a four year degree before anyone will even consider you for a meager job is a shitty place to be in. Businesses fail all the time, even ones that were successful in the past. So, I consider spending a few years in the early twenties to get a degree, when you wouldn't be doing shit but trying to fuck women and drinking anyway, a smart use of those early years. At the very least, even if you decide to go into something completely different than your degree, you have the basic courses out of the way that will allow you to get a second degree with only a 1-1.5 year investment. That's what I'm doing right now. If I had to start from scratch, i'd be truly fucked. Actually, I'd probably be relegated to making $600-$1000 per month teaching ESL in third world countries for the rest of my life. It sounds good to adventure seekers, but its not. Oh, and you need a degree to do that in most worthwhile countries.

Unless you have a family business to inherit, some inside track on a government job that doesn't require a degree, or already have an internet business that is doing very well, then its a good idea.

Hydrogonian glad to have you back on here, but allow me to disagree with you.

I think the earlier you start uni the better, specially when you know you are choosing the right course. Also the earlier you get your life sorted the better, if you start uni at 18, after you graduate, you have plenty of time for other shit such as, you may decide to do a post graduation course, by the time you reach 25 you may already have few yrs of work experience and you will be more likely to get better paid.

Soon as you join uni, you will receive loans and government grants that will allow you to travel around the world and fuck nicer women, resuming the earlier you get focused the better, also you have more time to commit mistakes and correct yourself along the way. I graduated at 24 (last yr), i dont think it was over late but it would be great if i had done a bit earlier.

Actually, I completely agree with your perspective if you are one of the exceedingly rare 18 year olds with a firm well thought out direction. Otherwise, its a waste of four years and tuition. I suppose that access to internet information has changed the level of insight and preparedness of a lot of 18 year olds. That wasn't the case in the 90's.

[The_CEO]

(09-22-2011 02:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

This hits home because my brother is a sophomore in high school. My dad is hellbent on him going to college, but doesn't understand that things have changed in 15 years. Unless my brother plans to study something like engineering or medicine, I'm going to urge him not to go.

He might want go to a public school that's not too expensive or even a good community college, that has study abroad programs, for example, in Asia. And learn some foreign languages

[hydrogonian]

Yeah, getting those first two years of basic studies might be the smart compromise, so if he does choose something that requires a degree he will only have two years to go to attain it. I like that idea. Its not a full commitment, but it makes going back to school a heck of a lot easier if or when it's necessary.

[The_CEO]

(09-25-2011 02:26 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Yeah, getting those first two years of basic studies might be the smart compromise, so if he does choose something that requires a degree he will only have two years to go to attain it. I like that idea. Its not a full commitment, but it makes going back to school a heck of a lot easier if or when it's necessary.

There are some community colleges that are highly regarded academically, not expensive, and jammed with hot 18-20 y/o girls.
I went to univ but if i did it over again i'd seriously consider going that route

[Aliblahba]

(09-25-2011 03:26 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  

(09-25-2011 02:26 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Yeah, getting those first two years of basic studies might be the smart compromise, so if he does choose something that requires a degree he will only have two years to go to attain it. I like that idea. Its not a full commitment, but it makes going back to school a heck of a lot easier if or when it's necessary.

There are some community colleges that are highly regarded academically, not expensive, and jammed with hot 18-20 y/o girls.
I went to univ but if i did it over again i'd seriously consider going that route

A lot of colleges have agreements with Comm. Colleges. Do two years w/ the smaller school and automatically transfer to the uni if your grades are up to snuff. So essentially you're getting the same quality girl.

Cape Fear Comm. College/UNCW
Wake Co. Tech./N.C. State

These are two schools that do it. Something to think about and much cheaper on the budget. Cape Fear was FULL of pussy and right on the river. Beautiful place.

[el mechanico]

Ali, pm me about that. There's tons of cool shit to do here for some cash if you have some time to kill. We even have a commercial fishing boat sitting idle.

[5K2D]

Actually, there are some upsides to certain colleges: if you go to a school that is considered "prestigious", you have much better access to job recruiters than someone from a school with less of a name brands. I won't speculate on whether it's "fair" or not, but the advantage certainly exists.