[kaotic]

(03-06-2018 01:58 PM)Horus Wrote:  

If you accused most teachers of indoctrinating or expousing personal beliefs on children, they would strongly deny this, and spout on about how they teach their students to think critically, to be indepedendent learners, and value unique perspectives.

The reality is usually something a little more like this:

Sure, the children are allowed time to discuss and explore their perspective on the topic, but the way the teacher frames the discussion is leading the students to his own predetermined conclusion. You can be sure that if the students disagree with his perspective, he will pretend to respect their opinion while calmly steering their opinion toward the "correct" one.

This video may be an extreme example, but for 90% of students attending a public Western school, this format of learning is a daily occurance. A teacher doesn't have to be a gay rights activist, white supremist or black lives matter supporter to be be complicit in the daily indocrination of our children.

Exactly, they softball group thought at them and lead them with a line of questions and "statements" that these children for the most part will agree with.

Just from banging quite a few teachers literally every single of them were liberal or even joined in the anti trump protests.

Of course all those female teachers were single parents or their parents weren't together.

[2Wycked]

(03-06-2018 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The next time I meet someone who refers to a white race-realist as a "white supremacist" I'm going to be spending the night in a cell picking that person's teeth out of my fist.

As far as I can see, "white race-realism" is a belief that when you introduce other races into a white culture, said migration causes conflict that will eventually result in the destruction of that particular white culture.

It is a really odd position to take in America, given it was white supremacists who first transported black people to America so they could use them as slaves. Powerful slaveholders like Charles Pinckney bent the arms of the drafters of the Constitution to allow unfettered importation of black slaves into America. The logic of the Revolution dictated that any form of forced servitude was a violation of natural law, but "the peculiar institution" survived because, in part, because of white supremacy. When that protection ended in 1808, hundreds of thousands of blacks were enslaved in the South, vastly outnumbering their white counterparts. Particularly for the rich, landed classes, who already feared white populism and radicalism, it had to be very disconcerting to be so outnumbered. Thus, white supremacy was used to keep slaves in their place and poor whites away, lest they get any ideas together about overthrowing their quasi-feudal masters.

Is it that white supremacy carries the seeds of its own destruction? Without it, no American (who takes the Revolution seriously, that is) could justify such a heinous violation of a person's natural dignity. But it was used to import hundreds of thousands of people. This powerful tension almost lead to the destruction of America in the Civil War and threatened to rip the nation apart yet again in the Civil Rights movement.

Nowadays, "white race-realism" is simply an extension of the failed doctrine of white supremacy again, "defending their own" against all the black people that they themselves imported to till their fields and work in their homes. Since "white race-realists" still refuse to regard black people as people with dignity and needs that are the same as their own, all they will is get more conflict, violence and, yes, maybe collapse. The way forward would be a careful study of Martin Luther King, Jr. and related thinkers, but we all know white people who spend their time online pearl-clutching over the collapse of white culture ain't got no time for that.

[DJ-Matt]

Welcome back 2Wycked!

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-06-2018 09:54 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The next time I meet someone who refers to a white race-realist as a "white supremacist" I'm going to be spending the night in a cell picking that person's teeth out of my fist.

I love how people always make the assumption that they will be the winner of any fight they get into.

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In a fight with some random dude I'm not going to assume I'd win.

In a fight with the kind of person who uses the blanket term "white supremacist" in the really real world to deride whites that simply don't tow the line on racial political correctness?

I'm liking my odds.

Cool story about your bro, though. How long did you have to hump him for until he submitted?

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-06-2018 05:36 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The next time I meet someone who refers to a white race-realist as a "white supremacist" I'm going to be spending the night in a cell picking that person's teeth out of my fist.

As far as I can see, "white race-realism" is a belief that when you introduce other races into a white culture, said migration causes conflict that will eventually result in the destruction of that particular white culture.
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Oh, then you're incorrect. No need to thank me for bringing it to your attention. I wont address the rest of your post since it's not really relevant, being based on your initially incorrect assumption.

Cheers.

In the spirit of helpfulness I'll get you started.

Race realism is when you allow yourself the politically incorrect option of determining that some races are on average biologically suited to certain tasks and outcomes while being less suited to other tasks and outcomes.

The alternative, political correctness, calls for the cognitive dissonance that allows a person to joke about how blacks are better at sports than whites or asians or jews but then recoils in utter horror at the possibility of joking that whites or asians or jews are better at maths than blacks.

This is the basis of race realism, and a white person who studies race realism is a "white race realist" although I should probably add a comma, creating "white, race realist" just to be super clear that the person in question is not obsessed with the white race but is simply a race realist who is white themselves.

This stuff is important, because if your society is based around the misconception that all races are equally suited to all tasks and that only racism can explain differences in outcomes then you will see racism everywhere when in fact it's only really nature that's racist. For example, if blacks are not achieving white, asian or jew levels of literacy and your view is "blacks are better at sports and worse at nothing else" then you're going to assume systemic racism in the education sector is to blame.

Race realism involves the possibility that on average blacks are better at sports and worse at academic pursuits. In this context you wouldn't toss shiploads of money into the education sector and police it brutally for "racist" thoughts just because blacks performed more poorly in standardised academic tests.

The delicious irony is that people who live under the yoke of political correctness are in fact black supremacists (no comma) because they contend jokingly that blacks are better at sports and worse at nothing else and are therefore provably the master race.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Extinguished Light]

WB if drunk, WNB sober

[SlickyBoy]

(03-05-2018 10:03 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

16 posts about this lizard and no one's asked the most important question yet:

WYB?






WNRM(Would Not Race Mix)

How incredibly short sighted of her. With her appearance, she could have very convincingly found a recently paroled Muslim boyfriend, converted to Islam, thrown a hijab over her head and still discussed most of her views while keeping her job. Instead of being tossed out she'd be defended vociferously by liberals, many of them Jewish.

C'mon, lady - if you're going to go covert, go all the way & be convincing.

[Raylan Givens]

WB

[Suits]

(03-06-2018 05:51 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 09:54 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The next time I meet someone who refers to a white race-realist as a "white supremacist" I'm going to be spending the night in a cell picking that person's teeth out of my fist.

I love how people always make the assumption that they will be the winner of any fight they get into.

...

In a fight with some random dude I'm not going to assume I'd win.

In a fight with the kind of person who uses the blanket term "white supremacist" in the really real world to deride whites that simply don't tow the line on racial political correctness?

I'm liking my odds.

Cool story about your bro, though. How long did you have to hump him for until he submitted?

I think it was the concussion that lowered his desire to prove his mettle.

(03-06-2018 06:01 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

This is the basis of race realism, and a white person who studies race realism is a "white race realist" although I should probably add a comma, creating "white, race realist" just to be super clear that the person in question is not obsessed with the white race but is simply a race realist who is white themselves.

Race realism involves the possibility that on average blacks are better at sports and worse at academic pursuits. In this context you wouldn't toss shiploads of money into the education sector and police it brutally for "racist" thoughts just because blacks performed more poorly in standardised academic tests.

That's a lot of bending over backwards.

It rarely if ever seems to be actually stated publicly, but under the guise of "simply wanting to find the real fact," there appears to be an underlining desire to establish a status quo where different treatment based on race would be acceptable.

There's the people that are tired of the overly indulgent political correctness, but history and present reality shows that people have a strong tendency to believe that their own race is superior and believe that it would be only fitting that every other race be culturally, economically and legally subservient to them.

That doesn't change the fact that the efforts to "make things fair" have gone well beyond reason, but it doesn't mean that everyone opposing it has reasonable or ethical intentions.

Would you mind describe your ideal endgame so that we know what side of the fence you sit on?

[nomadbrah]

(03-06-2018 07:42 PM)Suits Wrote:  

there appears to be an underlining desire to establish a status quo where different treatment based on race would be acceptable.

This is already acceptable.

Affirmative action, preferential housing rules, grants for minorities etc.

Do you want to rephrase?

[kaotic]

(03-06-2018 07:42 PM)Suits Wrote:  

History and present reality shows that people have a strong tendency to believe that their own race is superior and believe that it would be only fitting that every other race be culturally, economically and legally subservient to them.

Guess what ? IRT Master Race !

[Sherman]

It was appropriate to remove her because she admitted that she was subversively teaching her wacky opinions to her students and covering it up. The school has a responsibility to its students.

[Suits]

(03-06-2018 07:49 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 07:42 PM)Suits Wrote:  

there appears to be an underlining desire to establish a status quo where different treatment based on race would be acceptable.

This is already acceptable.

Affirmative action, preferential housing rules, grants for minorities etc.

Do you want to rephrase?

I believe in genuine equality. I don't need to rephrase because I don't think that anyone should be getting preferential treatment based on race.

My concern is that many of those who "are concerned for the future of the white race" don't have an ethical problem with a specific race being given an unfair advantage.

They're just pissed that it isn't their race.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-06-2018 07:42 PM)Suits Wrote:  

...
Would you mind describe your ideal endgame so that we know what side of the fence you sit on?

Soitenly.

One of the most profound sentences I've read recently was that the word equality means different things to different people. To the right it means meritocracy and to the left it means subsidies.

I believe we need to end what might be termed as "racial subsidies", not just for moral reasons but because it's a logistically flawed concept.

Measuring differences in racial outcomes and attributing it perpetually to racism is like building a bridge out of cheese and attributing its inevitable collapse to the work of ghosts. Solution? Keep building cheese bridges but hire more priests. Outcome? Obviously we need even more priests!

Embracing feelings over facts is part and parcel of a feminised society and one that will never rise to any height or will in our case devolve to it's mean. Ironically we can have a highly charitable society that understands and respects that some people are not and never will be rocket scientists, but the alternative we're currently engaged in is a society that demands the charity "because racism" and then keeps screaming at the giver because the inequality refuses to magically go away.

So my stance is this. The truth and only the truth is what should be used to guide Western civilisation (or any civilisation for that matter). We can be honest and charitable, doing what we can to help others while never condemning the truth of why we need to help in the first place.

We need to combat racism which exists for it's own gratification as a means to with-hold meritocracy while at the same time combating so called "positive discrimination" which only acts to pit one race against the other as adversaries.

I recognise that in a modernising society it is the academically lacking people that will be left behind, including no small number of whites, but we get to choose to cater to their feelings or advance our society, not both. We need to provide a humane standard of living for everyone in our nations (but build the wall or its equivalent for fucks sake) and we need to direct that carrot towards fostering the best possible behaviour from the receivers. Meanwhile we need to make it clear that only people who work towards achieving things for themselves are entitled to anything greater than that humane standard of living.

We don't need to insult people for failing to achieve standards that nature has put out of their grasp. We don't lament that literal retards are under-represented in ivy-league colleges. Nor do we torture them with bigotry. We don't insist that the same illiterate retard be given an equal shot at being a librarian as anyone else. We just do our best to help them along and live a humane life to the best of their ability.

Advancement relies on accepting facts over feelings when determining policy. Humane advancement relies on accepting those facts while acting in a humane way. As a species or a society or a nation we have the productive capacity to do this as never before, but if we keep sacrificing it on the altar of benevolent lies then we will lose everything.

These are my moral guidelines. Asking me for my "endgame" is ridiculous, as if I have the slightest capacity to alter the momentum of world politics. If pressed I suppose my endgame is equality under law with humane treatment of underachievers in a truly race-blind system.

I have no ridiculous illusions that this is what we will end up with, nor am I willing to perpetually slit my own wrists in the hope that other parties will come to the table. My prediction is that a white ethnostate or five is utterly inevitable and it will arrive relatively peacefully or via a bloodbath (or five). That's not what I want, but at our current course and velocity that's what we're going to end up with when whites are systematically bled, beaten and berated for long enough.

For five decades we have been the only ones holding out the olive branch. The results have been the opposite of what we intended and wanted. Reality will have its dues sooner or later.

[GoingTheDistance]

Delete. Other posters said it better.

[nomadbrah]

I wonder which non-white countries have a policy of equality to people with foreign heritage?

[Suits]

(03-06-2018 08:53 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

I wonder which non-white countries have a policy of equality to people with foreign heritage?

They don't and they won't any time soon.

That doesn't make it right for us or for them.

Anyway, it's good to see what side of the fence you sit on.

[Teutatis]

(03-05-2018 07:40 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

HuffPost took screenshots of many of the racist and incendiary statements she made online.

Granted these were the only tweets from her that I read so I don't know what else she said but why are these statements considered so incredibly incendiary, racist, wacky and so on? Nothing on those tweets is untrue or false, and nothing was hateful towards anyone.

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(03-06-2018 09:02 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

Granted these were the only tweets from her that I read so I don't know what else she said but why are these statements considered so incredibly incendiary, racist, wacky and so on? Nothing on those tweets is untrue or false.

You're making the incorrect assumption that the writers of that article are attempting to engage in good-faith discourse. They're not.

Quote:

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity.

The fact that a statement can be condemned as "racist" despite specifically disclaiming any claim of racial superiority shows how unmoored from reality such accusations have become.

[GoingTheDistance]

Quote:

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Granted these were the only tweets from her that I read so I don't know what else she said but why are these statements considered so incredibly incendiary, racist, wacky and so on? Nothing on those tweets is untrue or false, and nothing was hateful towards anyone.

That's the tweet that I think is what was inappropriate for a teacher to make. I agree with her statement, but in her profession it insinuates that she prefers her own race over others when she is supposed to be as neutral as possible when she's in position of authority over kids of a different race.

It's the context of this being said as a teacher. People are going to believe what they are going to believe, but don't say it out in public in this context. I would be pissed if I were a minority parent in this situation.

[EndsExpect]

(03-06-2018 01:54 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

The right wing equivalent of social justice bullshit, pass and strong WNB. Fuck if I'd want my kids to have a teacher who thinks that they're racially inferior and not look out for them. I had white teachers and bosses who went out of their way for me, but I wouldn't expect this bitch to do the same.

I hate to break this to you, but the VAST majority of White Liberals believe that black people are inferior.

The hate that black people get from White Nationalists... is driven by fear. Underneath that veil of hate every White Nationalist secretly believes that black people may be racially superior to whites. If you ever notice White Nationalists tend to come from poor households and broken families.

White Liberal women make up something like 65% of all school teachers. Their overwhelming belief that black children are mentally incapable of performing at the same level as other students.... lowers expectations. I saw a study that pretty much proved that if you took inner city schools and you fired all the Liberal White Women and replaced them with Black Men... test scores for African American children skyrocket.

Ever see the movie Dangerous Minds? That's really how Liberals feel about the black community. It's a group of people that are so genetically inferior to their minds that they require a white savior to lead them into civilization.

I would rather have my kids sit with a teacher that openly hates them, than a patronizing fuck that treats them like a personal "save the gorillas" crusade.

[Krimson Killa]

(03-06-2018 09:14 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 01:54 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

The right wing equivalent of social justice bullshit, pass and strong WNB. Fuck if I'd want my kids to have a teacher who thinks that they're racially inferior and not look out for them. I had white teachers and bosses who went out of their way for me, but I wouldn't expect this bitch to do the same.

I hate to break this to you, but the VAST majority of White Liberals believe that black people are inferior.

The hate that black people get from White Nationalists... is driven by fear. Underneath that veil of hate every White Nationalist secretly believes that black people may be racially superior to whites. If you ever notice White Nationalists tend to come from poor households and broken families.

White Liberal women make up something like 65% of all school teachers. Their overwhelming belief that black children are mentally incapable of performing at the same level as other students.... lowers expectations. I saw a study that pretty much proved that if you took inner city schools and you fired all the Liberal White Women and replaced them with Black Men... test scores for African American children skyrocket.

Ever see the movie Dangerous Minds? That's really how Liberals feel about the black community. It's a group of people that are so genetically inferior to their minds that they require a white savior to lead them into civilization.

I would rather have my kids sit with a teacher that openly hates them, than a patronizing fuck that treats them like a personal "save the gorillas" crusade.

Thing is, white liberals aren't all boogeymen who want to turn your sons into pansexual otherkin. I grew up in Oregon and California (I am not white) and had several white liberal teachers. Most of them were completely normal people who happened to vote Democrat and believe in racial equality. For what it's worth I went to high school in a place that had a ton of Egyptians, Palestinians, Indians, and Asians -- no white liberal teacher ever made me feel out of place or inferior.

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist -- someone who openly says that it's impossible for a Nigerian kid to be as intelligent as a Swede (despite African immigrants in the states being incredibly successful). Fuck if I'd want my kids in the hands of a teacher who could fuck over their grades and confidence because of their race.

FWIW the only reason we are seeing shit like this in 2018 is because SJWs have been going bananas in the last fifteen years. It's an equal and opposite reaction, but that doesn't really make white supremacists better. Both are cancer IMO and have no place in America.

[Lunostrelki]

(03-06-2018 01:58 PM)Horus Wrote:  

This video may be an extreme example, but for 90% of students attending a public Western school, this format of learning is a daily occurance. A teacher doesn't have to be a gay rights activist, white supremist or black lives matter supporter to be be complicit in the daily indocrination of our children.

In fact it's the moderate conditioning by teachers that does the greatest damage. They aren't obviously forcing their views on anyone, so the kids think they've come to those pro-left conclusions on their own. All my childhood friends are progressive leftists because of this.

[Gmac]

That is one rough looking 25 year old. WNB.

[Aurini]

(03-06-2018 10:51 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist

Where's the evidence that she's a supremacist? There's a huge difference between believing that Whites have a right to exist and a proud history, and believing that White's are the King Shit who should rule over everyone else.

Even the acknowledgement of race realism typically comes with an understanding of normal distributions. Everybody here is "sex realist" when it comes to that graph - but if I introduced you to my favourite lady down at the auto parts store, I'm sure you'd all come to respect her in short order.

Will Blacks en aggregate perform the same as whites at teh maths? Probably not. But when you're talking about a class of 30 people, there's going to be a huge variance between individuals; assuming that anybody was their demographic norm would be idiotic.

Now it's entirely possible that she's one of these first-order thinkers, who assumes that the statistical artifact known as "regression towards the mean" indicates that the children of smart blacks will inevitably regress to the median IQ, as if it were some sort of gravitational force. But we haven't seen any evidence of that. The knee-jerk reaction which has been programmed into us is to apologize for racism when it comes to minorities, while cross-examining Whites for any heretical thought.

And for the record: last Sunday at Church, I had my friend's Black daughter sitting on my lap during the service, and his son holding my hand as we went up for communion. Afterwards I discussed all sorts of Hate Topics about immigration with an Indian woman who pretty much agrees with me, and is working on some political organization to get rid of the Liberals in this country.

I guess I'm just a White racist who has Black friends who are my brothers and sisters in Christ.