[Teutatis]

(03-06-2018 09:14 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

The hate that black people get from White Nationalists... is driven by fear. Underneath that veil of hate every White Nationalist secretly believes that black people may be racially superior to whites.

I don't know any white nationalists so I can't say for sure what's on their minds but I doubt that is it.

(03-06-2018 10:51 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist

What makes her a blatant white supremacist?

[Krimson Killa]

(03-06-2018 11:30 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 10:51 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist

Where's the evidence that she's a supremacist? There's a huge difference between believing that Whites have a right to exist and a proud history, and believing that White's are the King Shit who should rule over everyone else.

Even the acknowledgement of race realism typically comes with an understanding of normal distributions. Everybody here is "sex realist" when it comes to that graph - but if I introduced you to my favourite lady down at the auto parts store, I'm sure you'd all come to respect her in short order.

Will Blacks en aggregate perform the same as whites at teh maths? Probably not. But when you're talking about a class of 30 people, there's going to be a huge variance between individuals; assuming that anybody was their demographic norm would be idiotic.

Now it's entirely possible that she's one of these first-order thinkers, who assumes that the statistical artifact known as "regression towards the mean" indicates that the children of smart blacks will inevitably regress to the median IQ, as if it were some sort of gravitational force. But we haven't seen any evidence of that.

Except that we have --

(03-05-2018 07:40 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

In her most recent podcast on Feb. 26, a guest railed against diversity in schools, dismissing the idea that “a kid from Nigeria and a kid who came from Sweden are supposed to learn exactly the same” and have the “same IQ.” Volitich enthusiastically agreed with the guest...

If I was a Nigerian doctor, I sure as shit wouldn't want my (probably intelligent) child being taught by someone who believes that they're inherently stupider. Just like you probably don't want your kids being taught by a rabid black feminist who thinks white people are inherently racist and owe her reparations.

This woman is the other side of the SJW coin, nothing more and nothing less. Retardation on the right is just as bad as retardation on the left.

[Atlanta Man]

As a white liberal I must say I only have one kind of bigotry, the soft bigotry of low expectations.

[godfather dust]

If we are going by where the bar is set in 2018 no way this women should have been fired, considering all the "kill whitey kill the police hate your parents gays are your higher power" stuff that is taught.

In a sane society yeah don't say that shit publicly as a teacher, but she probably wouldn't even think that way in a sane society.

[Aurini]

(03-06-2018 11:44 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 11:30 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 10:51 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist

Where's the evidence that she's a supremacist? There's a huge difference between believing that Whites have a right to exist and a proud history, and believing that White's are the King Shit who should rule over everyone else.

Even the acknowledgement of race realism typically comes with an understanding of normal distributions. Everybody here is "sex realist" when it comes to that graph - but if I introduced you to my favourite lady down at the auto parts store, I'm sure you'd all come to respect her in short order.

Will Blacks en aggregate perform the same as whites at teh maths? Probably not. But when you're talking about a class of 30 people, there's going to be a huge variance between individuals; assuming that anybody was their demographic norm would be idiotic.

Now it's entirely possible that she's one of these first-order thinkers, who assumes that the statistical artifact known as "regression towards the mean" indicates that the children of smart blacks will inevitably regress to the median IQ, as if it were some sort of gravitational force. But we haven't seen any evidence of that.

Except that we have --

(03-05-2018 07:40 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

In her most recent podcast on Feb. 26, a guest railed against diversity in schools, dismissing the idea that “a kid from Nigeria and a kid who came from Sweden are supposed to learn exactly the same” and have the “same IQ.” Volitich enthusiastically agreed with the guest...

If I was a Nigerian doctor, I sure as shit wouldn't want my (probably intelligent) child being taught by someone who believes that they're inherently stupider. Just like you probably don't want your kids being taught by a rabid black feminist who thinks white people are inherently racist and owe her reparations.

This woman is the other side of the SJW coin, nothing more and nothing less. Retardation on the right is just as bad as retardation on the left.

Please, she's speaking about the 70 IQ "refugees" who are flooding small towns.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-05-2018 07:47 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Obvious OPSEC issues:
Stated what her profession was
Told on her podcast that she was subtly indoctrinating her students
Used a pseudonym similar to her actual name.
Used an actual photo of herself for the pseudonymous account.
Assumed she wouldn't get caught as a teacher, despite that teaching is one of the most PC/SJW professions, where having any sort of unorthodox view or past will get you immediate attention.

What are the other ones i'm missing?

While this is all true and she was careless, we have to realize that if she was a rabid far-left radical Antifa supporter who advocated for the killing of all conservatives, of all meat-eaters and everyone who voted for Trump, then she would be just your average teacher on social media.

The left is the Orwellian establishment and you simply have to hide your views. They are in full control or otherwise risk the loss of your career as the bare minimum.

We are barely a few years away from gulag re-education camps and firing squads for wrong-think.

[mikado]

(03-07-2018 02:18 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 11:44 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 11:30 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 10:51 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist

Where's the evidence that she's a supremacist? There's a huge difference between believing that Whites have a right to exist and a proud history, and believing that White's are the King Shit who should rule over everyone else.

Even the acknowledgement of race realism typically comes with an understanding of normal distributions. Everybody here is "sex realist" when it comes to that graph - but if I introduced you to my favourite lady down at the auto parts store, I'm sure you'd all come to respect her in short order.

Will Blacks en aggregate perform the same as whites at teh maths? Probably not. But when you're talking about a class of 30 people, there's going to be a huge variance between individuals; assuming that anybody was their demographic norm would be idiotic.

Now it's entirely possible that she's one of these first-order thinkers, who assumes that the statistical artifact known as "regression towards the mean" indicates that the children of smart blacks will inevitably regress to the median IQ, as if it were some sort of gravitational force. But we haven't seen any evidence of that.

Except that we have --

(03-05-2018 07:40 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

In her most recent podcast on Feb. 26, a guest railed against diversity in schools, dismissing the idea that “a kid from Nigeria and a kid who came from Sweden are supposed to learn exactly the same” and have the “same IQ.” Volitich enthusiastically agreed with the guest...

If I was a Nigerian doctor, I sure as shit wouldn't want my (probably intelligent) child being taught by someone who believes that they're inherently stupider. Just like you probably don't want your kids being taught by a rabid black feminist who thinks white people are inherently racist and owe her reparations.

This woman is the other side of the SJW coin, nothing more and nothing less. Retardation on the right is just as bad as retardation on the left.

Please, she's speaking about the 70 IQ "refugees" who are flooding small towns.

What proves that she talks about refugees?

There is no "refugee" word uttered here, so we have to assume that she meant to talk about whatever Nigerian kid, including those with enough IQ to study in the West. Especially since these kinds of podcasts definitely do not single out populations, but like to paint broad generalizations of groups or races.

I did not come here as a young child, but by her logic I would learn slower and be more stupid than other kids, because I am from Africa.
Not accounting for the fact that not only me, but pretty much all guys I know who left Senegal like me scored in the very top percentile of their universities in France, a good handful of us being in the top 5, or went to the prestigious universities like Polytechnique, Centrale Paris, Ecole Normale Superieure...
You can check the amount of students from foreign countries who score the highest at the engineering schools contest in France (Classe Préparatoire aux Grandes Ecoles). How many of them come from Africa? I will let you do the homework.


I am going on a limb, but I think that given her views, she would also probably agree that a kid from Eastern Europe (who is obviously a non-Muslim white ) would do better than the Nigerian, even if he came from a shithole. You can maybe make a case about the intellectual prowesses of the Nordic country (they are really good in their education system, I admit), or maybe the Jews, but so far I haven't seen any proof of intellectual superiority of anyone else.

This woman was rightly fired, and anyone paid by the tax payer (including me, who pays every year) who do the same as her should also be.

I am the first to sprout game, red pill and anti-feminism theories to some of my co-workers, and will defend usually people fired because of their views on feminism, or red pill, or even religion, since you can choose to adhere (or not) to any of those views. However race is an entirely different story. Especially when it's about kids, who all have a different reason to come. Economic migration, fake age (like the Syrians who claim they are 15)? Yeah, they will probably suck at school. Those who came to or were born in the West, from parents who raised them to high literature and cultural standards? Probably not.

Maybe if she rephrased her arguments about the economical background and IQ of the parents, she could make a theory out of that. Even then, we see often kids from priviledgied background fail, and kids who had to study with the lights of the candles at night (I know a few, it would even happen to me personally because we have often power shortages in Senegal) go and get the highest grades in Senegal AND France.

All in all, race is irrelevant.

@ Leonard D Neubache

I am curious as to those black people who are happy to claim they are better at sports (and maybe, to have bigger dicks????), and refuse to admit they suck at other things. It is also pretty irrelevant if you are not going to compete at sports events like Olympics, or even amateur games. And frankly, I doubt race has anything to do with being able to run faster, or having better skills at controlling the ball in football (I won't say soccer).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-06-2018 10:51 PM)Krimson Killa Wrote:  

If I were black, however, I would absolutely not be comfortable sending my kid to a class taught by a blatant white supremacist -- someone who openly says that it's impossible for a Nigerian kid to be as intelligent as a Swede (despite African immigrants in the states being incredibly successful). Fuck if I'd want my kids in the hands of a teacher who could fuck over their grades and confidence because of their race.

FWIW the only reason we are seeing shit like this in 2018 is because SJWs have been going bananas in the last fifteen years. It's an equal and opposite reaction, but that doesn't really make white supremacists better. Both are cancer IMO and have no place in America.

That's a blatant misunderstanding - the average of those countries are not comparable. Individually you can have a genius-level Nigerian and a moron blonde Swede. Collectively the results are clear or Nigeria would be more like Switzerland if it had average Swedish intellectual capacity.

Though - that does not mean that you have to be a dick and be riding around on it. Everyone needs to be treated equally even if you can mention that for example IQ distribution among men and women are different and the extreme poles on the bottom and top are populated more by men than women, but the averages are more clustered with women.

That does not mean that you cannot have your less frequent female genius.

The concept of White Supremacy by the way has become as murky as racism or your rape allegation which can mean staring at a woman in the elevator or farting in public.

Strictly speaking White Supremacy should only mean that Whites feel that they can dominate any other race or tribe by the simple merit of their pasty skin color regardless whether they are imbeciles - also that they are forever superior no matter what they do and no matter whether the other side is represented by genius-level blacks who all are significantly smarter than them. The very concept is also anti-Christian, because it dehumanized the other races.

I doubt that there are many White supremacists left who actually believe that.

For example - I would be willing to die for my half-black Viking friend in a heartbeat. He is a smart bloke with a heart of gold. And I still see differences in IQ among races. I treat him and everyone with the same respect that I treat all humans. I understand group strengths and weaknesses that can all change over time. But that does not mean that I treat you automatically different because of looking slightly different than me.

But for the argument - let's assume I have a half-black son who is super-smart and he is going to be sent into class to this lady. Would I feel fine with it? Depends. Her social media history may be more radical than she is in real life. I would count on my son to tell me the truth. If he thinks she is a stupid ass bitch and her reading about global averages lets her treat my half-black genius son differently just because of it, then I am getting my kid out of there. If she can keep most of her political opinions to herself and treats my son fairly, then I don't think that I would care. The pussy-hat wearing majority would probably treat my son even worse giving him "extra help" or making any kind of concession to him based on his skin-color.

[mikado]

(03-07-2018 05:14 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

If he thinks she is a stupid ass bitch and her reading about global averages lets her treat my half-black genius son differently just because of it, then I am getting my kid out of there. If she can keep most of her political opinions to herself and treats my son fairly, then I don't think that I would care. The pussy-hat wearing majority would probably treat my son even worse giving him "extra help" or making any kind of concession to him based on his skin-color.[/b]

I think it is bad when a teacher awards extra points to somebody just because they are black/girl/gay/any kind of SJW typically "favored" group. However it is equally as bad to discriminate against a kid because he is black/girl/gay/any kind of SJW typically "favored" group. The problem is that most teachers can't avoid getting their personal beliefs in their education ways. Irrelevant of what side they are on.

From what I saw, liberals make the majority of teachers. Okay. This probably means many SJW-loved kids will have extra help. Now what?

If your kid is not among the "priviledged by SJW" ones, can he still go far in school and lands good opportunities? Yes, he can, if he works hard. You can as well give him your own extra help to do that. I am sure it will yield very good results, especially if it's you who are stimulating him. If you are good, then it doesn't matter if others get a boost. You will still be good, and get opportunities.

If you kid is "priviledged by the SJW", then it's on you and him. Getting good grades at school will not prevent you from crashing in college (Classes Préparatoires in France are a very good way for reality checks. The best grade is maybe 15/20, then the majority ends in the 10/20 to 02/20 bracket). If he slacks off because he was always treated well by teachers in school, be sure he will end up with a less than optimal degree, and have great chances of not making it financially.

I am a believer that parents, not teachers, are the ones who make a kid succeed or fail. Nothing to do with IQ. No matter what you do as a job, you can help your kid to reach the ceiling he wants to reach either by teaching him yourself, hiring private teachers to make him go even farther, or just keep up enough at school, or even if you are poor and don't have time, by motivating him with your words, actions and love. He will go the extra mile to make you proud.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< You know what has changed in the last decades. And I agree that parents create the character and teachers are barely supplements to the main diet.

+ In the 1970s when you met a black guy at Harvard, then most people assumed that he was smarter, tougher and more disciplined than you. (based on the fact that in most instances the ones who made it there on merit were tougher and smarter). Who knows - maybe you would be one of them Mikado, but that does not mean that you don't see the current Senegalese mobs tearing up Italy over some imagined transgressions - you have more in common with a Norwegian nobel price winner than with those blokes.

+ The teachers were always left-leaning, but back in the day it was more classical liberalism with some socialist hang-ups. I used to have heated discussions with some teachers, because back then I was a neoclassical liberal economist (aged 17 and very opinionated). But the differences in culture were nowhere as big back then. Nowadays the left has gone bat-shit crazy and all the push of anti-male, anti-White, anti-West sentiment is ripping apart Western civilization.

It is as others have said - Lacy Green and Francesa Ramsey can spout all the White anti-Western hatred they want - she will get hired by almost all schools. In contrast women much tamer than the one above get fired instantly and are unemployable.

But alas - cultural marxism wins for now and has been winning for decades.

[mikado]

You make interesting points, I do agree.

And yes, just saw on Facebook the guy who murdered the Italian girl. Interestingly, no one on the (Senegalese) page commented. Yet, they cry racism at all corners when an illegal is sent home.

The thing is that immigrant/muslim/whatever anti-alt right people I dare call intelligent, know better than to go all SJW. They will shut up, educate their kids to be smart, get a great job and integrate, and will not make a peep in the streets or the medias. This is why you won't see them (us? I like to think I am a part of them) in the streets complaining about racism, islamophobia, or anything like that. Because we know better, and frankly are focused on our own lifestyle and values. Whereas others like to claim victimhood and racism to better their iives, or feel that they count for something in this life.

This is why we get irritated when a teacher like the one in this thread (WNB by the way) makes those claims. Because even though we don't want to go SJW, and don't really care about them, education is maybe the one topic that no one should mess with. Because usually we are non low-IQ enough to know what we (or our children) can achieve, comparatively to the kids from other backgrounds. And having someone put that into question will make us react.

Is it a cowardly tactic? You could make that case... Is it selfish? I would say probably. And there is the fact that the majority of people who immigrate here immediately get coopted by the Left. So in the rare cases they try to act politically, they just go SJW, and left leaning. Like a reflex.

Maybe the solution is to find more people of foreign origin leaning to the right, or at least the center? I could see myself putting my face out there for politics, when (I sincerely hope) I become French. Sibeth Ndiaye is an example of a woman of African Origin, who works directly for Emmanuel Macron.

[thebassist]

Alright alright hold the fuck on.



All you brahs saying WB need to really check yourself. We always joke about the forum calling near-models 2/10 pointy-elbowed WNBs but this bish is just a blatant 4/10

These two pictures are probably the most flattering ones she could find, they could possibly be enough for me to swipe right on tinder.


But if a chick showed up on a date looking like this I'd probably tell her I need to urgently return some video tapes as soon as possible.



Disregarding the fat face and receding gum line, this woman is supposed to be 25 yet somehow she already looks like a 38-year old mother of 4, she should take a minute of her life away from pondering the future of the white race to look for a good moisturiser, I'm pretty sure that would actually have a much bigger impact on her life.

Consider this an intervention for all you WB'ers on the thread, y'all have some serious self-reflection to do.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-07-2018 05:08 AM)mikado Wrote:  

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@ Leonard D Neubache

I am curious as to those black people who are happy to claim they are better at sports (and maybe, to have bigger dicks????), and refuse to admit they suck at other things. It is also pretty irrelevant if you are not going to compete at sports events like Olympics, or even amateur games. And frankly, I doubt race has anything to do with being able to run faster, or having better skills at controlling the ball in football (I won't say soccer).

America is majority white. The NBA is majority black.

See many Asians in the NFL?

True enough, there's sport and there's sport. There are few functional benefits for blacks in the field of synchronised swimming, but there's a reason that these stereotypes exist, and it's not "racism".

Billionaire white and jewish NBA franchise owners are not racistly passing over exceptional white, jewish and asian players because they have a bigoted preference for hiring blacks. Black biology is clearly better suited to requirements of the game than white, asian, arab biology etc, as evidenced by the fact that they make up ten percent of the American national population but 75 percent of the league. What are you suggesting? That these hiring preferences are racist? That the best people for the job just happen to be black on some sort of "winning the lottery twice" level coincidence?

What?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

WNB

She is a 4-5/10. And 5 is generous. She may get plus points as wife material.

I probably could bang from behind when drunk, so she is moderately bangable if you have zero options and she wins fapping to porn as an alternative.

[mikado]

(03-07-2018 06:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 05:08 AM)mikado Wrote:  

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@ Leonard D Neubache

I am curious as to those black people who are happy to claim they are better at sports (and maybe, to have bigger dicks????), and refuse to admit they suck at other things. It is also pretty irrelevant if you are not going to compete at sports events like Olympics, or even amateur games. And frankly, I doubt race has anything to do with being able to run faster, or having better skills at controlling the ball in football (I won't say soccer).

Oh. Okay then. I'll have to assume that the NBA for example is owned and run by black supremacists who unjustly hire their own at vastly inflated numbers per capita. And don't even get me started on the lack of asian representation in the NFL.

My question is: are the Asians discriminated against in the NBA, or isn't it that basketball is a sport played by usually tall people, regardless of their origins, and that in the black community it is seen as a status symbol and a way to succeed in life by playing ball, making a disproportionnate number of tall black teens to undergo that career, while the tall Asian kids are more interested in other fields? Especially when you add the fact that it is relatively cheap to be a ball player, compared to for example golf or tennis.

Maybe if tall Asian kids were more interested in basketball, there would be more of them?

It's like people saying black people can't swim, or can't do alpine sports. Maybe it's because they often don't have access to a pool (logistically, or because their parents fear they will drown because themselves can't swim), or just are not inclined to go skiing? Or it's maybe too expensive?

Christophe Lemaître (french white sprinter) got an olympic medal in Rio, and was for a while the best sprinter in France. It is not because of race, but because he was that invested in that sport. You have also Mehdy Metella, french black swimmer, who got olympic medals. Nothing to do with race either.


My opinion is that the status symbol associated to being an NBA player is more overestimated in the black community than in the others, making more tall black kids fight for a spot in basketball teams. The same way becoming a skiing champion is very low-status in the black community, making most of them not choose that field. And we didn't even talk about the economic context (never seen a non-mixed black guy do golf, there wasn't even a black guy at my young female friend I met a few years ago: her parents were quite rich).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Mikado - stop denying that race in aggregate does not matter - there are physical differences aside from height and interest in youth in a sport.

Putting up a token non-black guy as proof of equality is just irrelevant:

https://fitnessgenes.com/blog/natural-at...americans/

Quote:

African-American children have better motor skills earlier in life than other groups
African-American people have a lower body fat on average, and a higher appendicular muscle mass
African Americans have been shown to have as much as 8% less slow-twitch, and 7% more fast-twitch muscle fibres, when sedentary untrained
African Americans were compared tocaucasians
African Americans had 30–40% more enzymes involved in phosphagenic and glycolytic metabolic pathways
African Americans have a greater body density, probably due to having a much higher bone density throughout life
African Americans have a higher level of plasma testosterone

But yeah - if you suddenly start breeding Asians excessively for speed and motor skills, have their fast and tall athletes have the most children, then over the centuries you will get that Asian subgroup to be highly over-represented in athletic accomplishments.

Funny little vid on how humans changed common fruits and vegetables over the centuries and millennia:

But changes in human traits over the centuries and millennia are not possible - no they do not exist at all!

Guess the SJWs are right on that one while being wrong on pretty much everything.

[mikado]

Cool! So it means I have good odds to be more jacked than my white friend if we workout the same?
And I have a bigger dick than him?

One of these is true, let's hope the other one is too!


Joking aside, yes there are differences in sport, and Mehdy Metella will probably never be like Michael Phelps. However I do not think it is as pronounced in education.

But maybe I am too biased, since I pretty much used to hangout only with smart kids (introverted ex incel and average in social skills speaking here). And yeah, a lot of black and Maghreb guys I studied with in Classes Prépa were good with the football, and running too. I always sucked (and still do) at that.

Additional inspiration for me to go to my boxing class

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-07-2018 06:15 AM)mikado Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 06:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 05:08 AM)mikado Wrote:  

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@ Leonard D Neubache

I am curious as to those black people who are happy to claim they are better at sports (and maybe, to have bigger dicks????), and refuse to admit they suck at other things. It is also pretty irrelevant if you are not going to compete at sports events like Olympics, or even amateur games. And frankly, I doubt race has anything to do with being able to run faster, or having better skills at controlling the ball in football (I won't say soccer).

Oh. Okay then. I'll have to assume that the NBA for example is owned and run by black supremacists who unjustly hire their own at vastly inflated numbers per capita. And don't even get me started on the lack of asian representation in the NFL.

My question is: are the Asians discriminated against in the NBA, or isn't it that basketball is a sport played by usually tall people, regardless of their origins, and that in the black community it is seen as a status symbol and a way to succeed in life by playing ball, making a disproportionnate number of tall black teens to undergo that career, while the tall Asian kids are more interested in other fields? Especially when you add the fact that it is relatively cheap to be a ball player, compared to for example golf or tennis.

Maybe if tall Asian kids were more interested in basketball, there would be more of them?

It's like people saying black people can't swim, or can't do alpine sports. Maybe it's because they often don't have access to a pool (logistically, or because their parents fear they will drown because themselves can't swim), or just are not inclined to go skiing? Or it's maybe too expensive?

Christophe Lemaître (french white sprinter) got an olympic medal in Rio, and was for a while the best sprinter in France. It is not because of race, but because he was that invested in that sport. You have also Mehdy Metella, french black swimmer, who got olympic medals. Nothing to do with race either.


My opinion is that the status symbol associated to being an NBA player is more overestimated in the black community than in the others, making more tall black kids fight for a spot in basketball teams. The same way becoming a skiing champion is very low-status in the black community, making most of them not choose that field. And we didn't even talk about the economic context (never seen a non-mixed black guy do golf, there wasn't even a black guy at my young female friend I met a few years ago: her parents were quite rich).

Hey, man. Why stop there? Go ahead and tell me that it's also the case that women perform less well at sports because the participation rate is lower. Right?

6 foot 150 pound male with the same BMI as a 6 foot 150 pound female. No biological differences there. Only cultural participation rates and training support, right?

Frankly I don't know why people are so resistant to this idea. If I were black I would be pretty upset to think that my race was being held back academically by a vast and impermeable white conspiracy perpetually acting from the shadows. It would make me mad. It would cause me to assume there's no point in trying anything and play the victim for eternity.

However if the truth of the matter were accepted, that nature and luck simply picked me and mine for different roles, then I would be able to make peace with the world and stop chasing those elusive shadows of systemic racism that doesn't actually exist.

If I were a black guy in America and maths was hard for me, I'd really like to believe that that was just the luck of the draw and not "whitey trying to keep me and mine down".

One of these things leads to acceptance and social cohesion, the other leads to social strife and perhaps civil war.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-07-2018 06:41 AM)mikado Wrote:  

Cool! So it means I have good odds to be more jacked than my white friend if we workout the same?
And I have a bigger dick than him?

Yes - that is exactly how genetics work. The watermelon changed from a peanut sized bitter fruit in spring into a 20 pound sweet giant as we know it during summer. It was not bred for millennia that way - the equivalent to human 10.000-200.000 years of breeding patterns.

I wonder if you shut off that part of the brain when you think about those things or whether it hits and ideological glass ceiling that you don't want to cross.

And I guess all IQ tests are racists and all muscle fiber results are racist too - just giving advantage to blacks.

Human biology always works in aggregate and seldom individually - the aggregate results show themselves over time and they can be tested well enough.

[mikado]

It is a different issue when it's men vs women, than men of a race vs men of another.

I would like to see the IQ tests, and check how the variables are selected, and controlled. In sports too. I suspect the upbringing and social and economic classes have a lot to do in biasing the tests.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-07-2018 07:24 AM)mikado Wrote:  

It is a different issue when it's men vs women, than men of a race vs men of another.

I would like to see the IQ tests, and check how the variables are selected, and controlled. In sports too. I suspect the upbringing and social and economic classes have a lot to do in biasing the tests.

Go use google and research it - there are scores and scores of those.

They even had IQ tests in the 1930s in Europe that proved that class did not even have as much impact as they thought it would. They imagined the upper and upper-middle classes to be far smarter, but it turned out that the IQs were quite spread out and many high-IQ farmers and factory workers living among them.

You can check out African IQ tests - there are tons of those around and all of them are discarded now as racists - even if done in the last decade with full video footage. The new marxists discard those just as they discard the notion that there are 2 genders. It's 50 genders now and millennia-old breeding patterns of races also don't matter.

The reason why almost all black-dominated countries are shitholes is 100% blamed on White Supremacy, even if whites had not set foot on the place for centuries. Denying reality will make the explaining away of the observable facts just more difficult.

But hey - if it helps you sleep better at night and side with the trigender Antifas, then so be it.

[mikado]

Ok I will check them.

However I already said multiple times here that I am not SJW, nor antifags, and am solidely anti-feminist, so no I won't go with them. As I said higher in page 4, I side with those who just want to essentially "shut the fuck up and get rich while minding their own business".
I am anti illegal immigration, and anti mass immigrations where a whole family gets citizenship, but I support citizenship, for those who have spent almost a lifetime growing up, living and working here (AND came legally, and have papers).

I don't like gay marriage and I believe in only 2 genders, but I hate terrorism, and islam virtue-signalling, and I culturally identify more as a French than as a Senegalese (freedom of speech, liberty of religion, social values, cultural ones too).

I don't like prayers in the street but I also don't like immigration agents asking people seeking citizenship if they go to the mosque.

All in all I am irrelevant in the grand scheme of things (neither lefty nor righty), however I will speak for those in the middle, who pretty much revendicate being there, and do not want to be pegged as belonging to one of the sides.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I get it - Mikado.

We share close to all views. You are also in the bell-curve IQ distribution probably at the very top of your tribe and far above average even among Whites. Understandably you seem to have hangups on the race and IQ issue - at least some Ivy League trained blacks concede the point while stating correctly, that those things can change. And I agree that they can change, but this very thing mostly explains the difference in results around the world that can be observed (and highly slanted selection of for example previously high-IQ Nigerian Christian immigrants to the US don't count).

We also don't see eye to eye on Islam, but here again - you are closer in consciousness to Khalil Gibran than Mohammed.

So yeah - you are no SJW and would not march with them. But you do sound a bit like a liberal college professor who claims that everyone can do anything with enough ambition and resolve. Meanwhile he is oblivious to the fact that his 130 IQ made all his accomplishments infinitely easier and he just refuses to see the reality - that most white folk would not be able to replicate his success even if they did their best. And again - you are certainly more Red Pill than that guy, but also find yourself in a similar situation not seeing the gap between you and the averages of a tribe.

You should be all out there popping out 20-30 kids with multiple women to effect real change! Wakanda will manifest best by lots of smart black guys fucking and siring lots of high-IQ kids.

[mikado]

(03-07-2018 07:51 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I get it - Mikado.

We share close to all views. You are also in the bell-curve IQ distribution probably at the very top of your tribe and far above average even among Whites. Understandably you seem to have hangups on the race and IQ issue - at least some Ivy League trained blacks concede the point while stating correctly, that those things can change. And I agree that they can change, but this very thing mostly explains the difference in results around the world that can be observed (and highly slanted selection of for example previously high-IQ Nigerian Christian immigrants to the US don't count).

We also don't see eye to eye on Islam, but here again - you are closer in consciousness to Khalil Gibran than Mohammed.

So yeah - you are no SJW and would not march with them. But you do sound a bit like a liberal college professor who claims that everyone can do anything with enough ambition and resolve. Meanwhile he is oblivious to the fact that his 130 IQ made all his accomplishments infinitely easier and he just refuses to see the reality - that most white folk would not be able to replicate his success even if they did their best. And again - you are certainly more Red Pill than that guy, but also find yourself in a similar situation not seeing the gap between you and the averages of a tribe.

You should be all out there popping out 20-30 kids with multiple women to effect real change! Wakanda will manifest best by lots of smart black guys fucking and siring lots of high-IQ kids.

Oh, I do agree that probably my "accomplishments" will probably not be done by everyone (even in my peer groups I was always the 'study' akward guy, who would prefer staying at home to work for a maths contest instead of hanging out talking about girls).

I am a lot closer to this community than you think. I will probably become more of a right guy in the future, and pretty much leave the Senegalese out of me (except for football matches: I will never!!) Actually, I could sprout almost verbatim the same argument as you guys, and they would not even concern me (since I am not illegal 70-IQ refugee who just came here).

However, transitionning from typical SJW immigrant to Righty French of foreign origin is not as easy as you think. It's like taking the red pill all over again. And it's even worse, because your own family and close friends will attack/leave you. So you just end up separating more and more from them, and becoming closer and closer to people of the right. That's what's happening for me, actually. I almost don't do or want to interact with people from my background, except for my immediate family.
And believe me, I am not the only guy like this.

Popping babies seems fun! But when you taste the red-pill, you realize marriage and kids are not that attractive prospects. Another problematic thing is that I am attracted to white girls (not blacks), and most of those I know are excellent candidates for divorce rape, so it's out of the question. We blacks tend to have lots of kids, yeah, but I just don't any black girl in my circle that I am attracted to (and is a solid 7-8 WB)

Add the fact that I like them 18 to 20, and it's an impossible problem, since none of those wants to breed, or even live with you! Those who do don't have a high intellectual background, and I fail horribly with that demographic (since I do not fit the stereotypical ghetto type, nor physically, nor mentally). This is the paradox: we cannot be intellectual and focus on our high IQ, we also have to be "badasses" and fill the alpha type, or black women don't give us the time of the day!

I think our friend Excelsior would agree with me that we need the complete package, to have any hope of founding a Wakanda.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< There are no easy solutions. I censor myself only partly with my family, though not that much overall, because I am too much of a dick and too convincing over time. They like me despite the overall stuff I say, because I laugh a lot and also love them - this helps with the family.

But of course - most of my full views are shared by Red Pill men. And truth of the matter is - currently none of us will change the world at all even by creating a big Red Pill family. This shit will have to run it's course - we can only sail our own ship.