[Emancipator]

(12-27-2018 06:22 AM)Horus Wrote:  

I was talking to a black South African guy a few days ago. He was telling me about how wonderful his country is, and how bright the future is. I asked him if the future for white people in South Africa is also bright. He replied that in 20 years, the will be no whites in South Africa. I asked him what he thinks will happen to them. He just looked me strongly in the eyes, grinned smugly, and repeated "There will be no whites in South Africa in 20 years." He refused to elaborate. The way he said it sounded very ominous and menacing, like I was talking to a villain in a James Bond movie. Gonna be careful with that guy in the future.

The highly trained whites (SADF + National Police Service pre-94) are all in retirement age not in shape or have gone private (mercenaries or private security), the white SA fighting aged male in the next two decades will be those who were born post-apartheid, constantly shamed for something they had no part in, brainwashed since birth.

That's what they're banking on, low to no resistance (+no international scrutiny)

Should any more violent action be taken against white SAs, I would not be surprised to see whites from other countries come to fight, even some expat SA descendants.

They won't let the whites escape with their wealth like Rhodesians did or many rich/skilled SAs did post apartheid (to Aus, Canada or the US), only thing left for many will be to fight, and Afrikaneers won't go down easy.

[Waqqle]

Looks like Simeon_Strangelight is right. There is a clip at 4:36 in this video of Julius Malema (the EFF guy) saying that white people cant be allowed to leave.

[BaatumMania]

If the Afrikaners fought back the U.N. would send in blue helmets to disarm the Afrikaners, and then they'll be murdered one-by-one. It technically happened in the Katanga region with the Belgians and other Europeans in that region.

[Emancipator]

(12-27-2018 10:45 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

If the Afrikaners fought back the U.N. would send in blue helmets to disarm the Afrikaners, and then they'll be murdered one-by-one. It technically happened in the Katanga region with the Belgians and other Europeans in that region.

Boers squared up twice against the full might of the British Empire and held their own (until the Brits went full concentration camp on the women and children)

They're gonna wait until the older well trained generations aren't able to properly train the fighting generation brought up on white guilt.

Another question mark factor is going to be the "coloureds", which side will they fight on?

[britchard]

Another point that seems to be flying over people's heads here is that 'blacks' in South Africa are not a monolith, and there are many more tribes than 'complicated' countries such as Northern Ireland or Belgium.

The Boer War has no relevance to a future conflict. At that point, the Boers were fighting against an invading force who knew little of the landscape or conditions and were severely under-equipped, with international pressure to stop the war. It would be very different to fight fellow countrymen who would have significant outside support.

There are a lot of 'doomsday' predictions in this thread which are most likely not going to happen. Reality is never quite as interesting as our predictions.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(12-24-2018 03:26 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

The South African Police Commissioner General Kehla Sithole says he blames people for coming to South Africa.

“They brought TVs, cars, jewellery, and other things our people will be tempted to steal, if it wasn’t for that, our people were never going to learn to steal, they all of this to make us look bad,” Kehla Sithole said.

Someone needs to tell this guy that The Gods Must Be Crazy was meant as a comedy.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(12-28-2018 06:25 AM)britchard Wrote:  

Another point that seems to be flying over people's heads here is that 'blacks' in South Africa are not a monolith, and there are many more tribes than 'complicated' countries such as Northern Ireland or Belgium.

The Boer War has no relevance to a future conflict. At that point, the Boers were fighting against an invading force who knew little of the landscape or conditions and were severely under-equipped, with international pressure to stop the war. It would be very different to fight fellow countrymen who would have significant outside support.

There are a lot of 'doomsday' predictions in this thread which are most likely not going to happen. Reality is never quite as interesting as our predictions.

Hilarious.

The "diversity" of South African black tribes is irrelevant. Similar to the US and the West - Jews, all blacks, Muslims, most immigrants except for the Chinese - they all form a coalition united against Whites. That is literally all they are united against - no matter whether they hate each other individually.

And the doomsday scenario while each week farmers are getting slaughtered, 5yo girls are gang-raped to death, when politicians are openly publicly calling for the slaughter of the women, children, cats and dogs of the farmers!! That is no doomsday at all! Walk it off man! Nothing to see there.

When major politicians are saying that they won't let Whites leave, but rather kill them all, then you should be concerned. It will happen and it is happening already just slower, but things will accelerate.

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

(12-28-2018 06:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Someone needs to tell this guy that The Gods Must Be Crazy was meant as a comedy.

I loved that movie.

[britchard]

(12-28-2018 07:02 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 06:25 AM)britchard Wrote:  

Another point that seems to be flying over people's heads here is that 'blacks' in South Africa are not a monolith, and there are many more tribes than 'complicated' countries such as Northern Ireland or Belgium.

The Boer War has no relevance to a future conflict. At that point, the Boers were fighting against an invading force who knew little of the landscape or conditions and were severely under-equipped, with international pressure to stop the war. It would be very different to fight fellow countrymen who would have significant outside support.

There are a lot of 'doomsday' predictions in this thread which are most likely not going to happen. Reality is never quite as interesting as our predictions.

Hilarious.

The "diversity" of South African black tribes is irrelevant. Similar to the US and the West - Jews, all blacks, Muslims, most immigrants except for the Chinese - they all form a coalition united against Whites. That is literally all they are united against - no matter whether they hate each other individually.

And the doomsday scenario while each week farmers are getting slaughtered, 5yo girls are gang-raped to death, when politicians are openly publicly calling for the slaughter of the women, children, cats and dogs of the farmers!! That is no doomsday at all! Walk it off man! Nothing to see there.

When major politicians are saying that they won't let Whites leave, but rather kill them all, then you should be concerned. It will happen and it is happening already just slower, but things will accelerate.

Believe what you want. One thing is for sure, it would be interesting to look back at this thread in 5 years or so.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< 5 yrs?

Make it 15-20 yrs - the war is rather slow and languid and will fuck up the country continually. Some ultimate slaughter will only happen after a major worldwide economic depression that will impact countries like South Africa stronger. When riots turn to genocide, then this will be the day. But in the meantime the country will turn into Zimbabwe-Venezuela.

[CynicalContrarian]

Figured Zimbabwe had leveled out after it's drama, as you can only tear down a building / institution so much.
Guess there is still more nonsense to be had :

Quote:

Zimbabwe cut the internet to limit citizen protests against it, and because their citizens use the internet to pay for electricity on a pay as you go model, nobody could pay and vast swaths of their populace lost their electricity.

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/bl.../#comments


So now South Africa has the remainder of it's Zimbabwe like downfall nonsense to look forward to & even more after the fact...

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< Africa will continue to descend into mayhem and be beset by dysfunction and violence - that will end either when they embrace race-realism and start doing something about closing the gap to the other races (positive eugenics) or the Chinese will colonize the continent and rule with an iron hand.

And since the (((elite))) and 666elite666 are no humanitarians and the last thing they would want is a potentially rebellious 100-IQ-black people that would become an identical nuisance to their totalitarian rule as the Whites - then the Chinese solution after huge ultimate riots and slaughters is what they picked. They certainly are not going to risk a smart black population fighting against them - difficult to do the "fellow black people" for them.

[droughtmeat]

The IQ issue wont ve solved until those countries pick ONE language for their own country or develop their native language to the point where they actually have academkc levels or proficiency that can be reached. Consequently, parents will start to speak well at home and that will be passed on to the children.
After decades a difference would be noticed.

[CynicalContrarian]

(01-20-2019 08:24 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

The IQ issue wont ve solved until those countries pick ONE language for their own country or develop their native language to the point where they actually have academkc levels or proficiency that can be reached. Consequently, parents will start to speak well at home and that will be passed on to the children.
After decades a difference would be noticed.

Or African governments would actively have to pay for functional education systems.
Yet why would they do that when they have their offshore Cayman / Swiss bank accounts to prop up...?

[Brodiaga]

(01-20-2019 08:24 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

The IQ issue wont ve solved until those countries pick ONE language for their own country or develop their native language to the point where they actually have academkc levels or proficiency that can be reached. Consequently, parents will start to speak well at home and that will be passed on to the children.
After decades a difference would be noticed.

Yeah sure, just pick one language and everything will be fine. Their IQs will reach the level of the Swiss who only speak one l... never mind.

[droughtmeat]

The Swiss are excellent at one and average to bad at the others. Go to the German speaking part and there will be a couple of OK French speakers and most will suck at Italian.
Same goes for the Italian speakers' ability to speak German etc.

In countries like South Africa black people might grow up speaking zulu or one of the other African languages. These are still somewhat undeveloped languages. Then, they learn English at school, but the majority aren't particularly good at it, cause it's not spoken at home, not spoken at all for multiple weeks at a time during the school holidays etc.

[Sumanguru]

(01-20-2019 08:24 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

The IQ issue wont ve solved until those countries pick ONE language for their own country or develop their native language to the point where they actually have academkc levels or proficiency that can be reached. Consequently, parents will start to speak well at home and that will be passed on to the children.
After decades a difference would be noticed.

Yeah, I think one of Africa's biggest weakness is too much diversity. It's hard to unite a country/people for one purpose (economic development) when that country has 20+ different people who each speak their own language, nonetheless an entire continent with a plethora of countries with their own different peoples. One dominant language, preferably English for it's international value, would be greatly beneficial to Africa, though of course it won't happen anytime soon.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-20-2019 07:16 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 08:24 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

The IQ issue wont ve solved until those countries pick ONE language for their own country or develop their native language to the point where they actually have academkc levels or proficiency that can be reached. Consequently, parents will start to speak well at home and that will be passed on to the children.
After decades a difference would be noticed.

Or African governments would actively have to pay for functional education systems.
Yet why would they do that when they have their offshore Cayman / Swiss bank accounts to prop up...?

As was discussed here at times - not all African countries were and are led by inept corrupt morons. Botswana was led for a long time by highly intelligent masculine shitlords. The country invested a shit-ton in education. But you can pump all you want into the refinement of a 78-IQ population, you can teach them all you want in shitty idiotic "you-are-all-equal" mantra. It won't matter and the result despite the best attempts are ridiculously low.

The language is downstream of intelligence - especially when you have access to better languages. The Swiss have had a bunch of languages, strange dialects, a language that resembles more ancient Latin - and yet they were and are one of the smartest tribes in Europe. There are other examples with Europe having a myriad regional languages and mini-tribes that have now died out. The same goes for China and most other tribes in the world.

All those explanations like "lack of fathers in the house", "no good single languages", "not enough schools", "corrupt leaders" - they are all moot, because there are some countries in Africa with mostly one language spoken, there are some good leaders in Africa, also with fathers in the house, they speak French in some countries almost everywhere. It's none of those reasons at all! It's something more fundamental on a biological level. The same biological level lets West-Africans outperform on most speed-related sports while you can train your Mestizo and Chinese for decades to get him up to the top-100 at sprinting:



They just have a massive selective leg up in that respect while other tribes have a leg up in terms of intellectual selection. I could bet my life on the fact that if we rounded up 20 mio. of the smartest Africans, put them into Togo, then you would get something resembling Switzerland within 10-20 years. Give them a US style constitution, let them elect one smart shitlord, just copy simply the old US system like they used to do in Liberia (and they did) and everything would turn out fine. Suddenly like a miracle you would have no issue with language, lack of fathers, lack of schooling. The fuckers could learn well akin to the Chinese in underfunded schools.

Obviously that smart African country would have to erect massive borders almost instantly - essentially they would have the old Zimbabwe and South Africa luxury problem. Yes - it would be a real Wakanda obviously not with the magic tech, but certainly highly functional and successful on the level of the West.

[CynicalContrarian]

^
Europe & Asia have had civilization for roughly three to four thousand years.
While certain spots in Africa have only had it for at best three to four hundred years.

So... maybe in another three thousand years Africa will be OK, or on par with today's Europe, but I'm not going to wait around.

[droughtmeat]

Valid points, but even in the countries where they speak French their French tends to be unimpressive.
I definitely intend to have a closer look at the system they implemented in Botswana.

The reason why I'm reluctant to fully believe the IQ theory is because having attended an African primary school and then international high school I saw that literally any of the children, who attended primary school with me, could have gone on to international school and then enrolled at an overseas university, had their parents had the financial wherewithal.

Those who struggled were mainly the ones who weren't good at English / didn't speak English at home.

Another underrated factor is work ethic / laziness. Rarely do Africans commit suicide or fall into depression from overworking. Not to say that every European does, however, the pressure to perform, pass exams and learn STUFF, albeit useless at times, in west is that high that many crumble under it. In places such as China that pressure is even higher, whereas it's virtually non existent in Subsaharan Africa.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-21-2019 09:33 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

Valid points, but even in the countries where they speak French their French tends to be unimpressive.
I definitely intend to have a closer look at the system they implemented in Botswana.

The reason why I'm reluctant to fully believe the IQ theory is because having attended an African primary school and then international high school I saw that literally any of the children, who attended primary school with me, could have gone on to international school and then enrolled at an overseas university, had their parents had the financial wherewithal.

Those who struggled were mainly the ones who weren't good at English / didn't speak English at home.

Another underrated factor is work ethic / laziness. Rarely do Africans commit suicide or fall into depression from overworking. Not to say that every European does, however, the pressure to perform, pass exams and learn STUFF, albeit useless at times, in west is that high that many crumble under it. In places such as China that pressure is even higher, whereas it's virtually non existent in Subsaharan Africa.

Good luck with that - anecdote-land:

Utter bullshit that is not backed up by any stats - even the fucking Brazilian educational scores read like a map of races - the more black admixture you have, the lower the PISA scores. It's like a fucking race-realism propaganda matrix while in reality it's just the truth.

I have previously mentioned that due to my religion I was surrounded by quite a few intelligent African doctors, engineers and businessmen. If I went by that anecdote and spun my anecdote-land I would be puzzled about the state of Africa or even the entire African diaspora around the fucking world which backs this up again and again. It's as if you are around a 6"2+ club of Chinese and wonder why the Chinese are rumored to be so short when all you've met were 6'2 Chinese blokes.

Here a South African shitlord who speaks the truth - note how he had to hide his appearance:

And here another shitlord who has to hide his appearance even more being White and working for the globohomo-Wallstreet-corporate-industrial-complex - he has a good take on how and why civilizations develop and what has to precede them - usually for centuries or even millennia:

[droughtmeat]

I'm not claiming that most black people don't have low IQs. I'm simply saying it's more cultural and a result of the environment THEY not the "white man" created. Many africans wouldn't even be able to take IQ tests, cause they wouldn't be able to understand the questions, regardless of the language used.

By the way, are there any IQ tests done with black people, who grew up in white households? I imagine that the sample size is too small.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< I think, that you didn't understand the issue. The first video was about a man who took IQ tests of large groups of elite South African students. And the average score was in the 80s for that elite group of black students. All of them had superior cognitive abilities relative to the average population. All of them were literate and able to finish a degree.

Also there are no "questions" regarding IQ. Most tests used are even non-verbal. You can be even illiterate and score high. There have been even tests done by simply solving labyrinths and counting the time - they were even somewhat accurate.

It's not about the language, but about the ability to test overall cognitive ability and ability to solve conceptual problems. The left used to be champions of IQ tests because they correctly stated that someone born in a poor household scoring high should be given similar chances as to someone born in a rich household - even worse - someone testing high was likely to outperform some rich moron who was advanced more due to his connections and family. That was a big issue in the past with generals being appointed on family birth in Europe. Hitler for example and the Nazis were also opposed to IQ tests because Asians and Jews tested higher (regardless whether the Jewish IQ is 3, 7 or the sometimes reported 12-15 points above 100). Thus the Nazis implemented some Aryan crap with German language and knowledge added to it, so that only German-speakers would test the highest.

I also don't think that it's the end-all of all solutions since average millionaires tested around 112 and Nobel price winners as low as 125-128, but still - homeless tested in the low 80s in the US and there is a 40% correlation to life success. Plus the military in the US doesn't hire anyone under 83. You require somewhere around 95 to operate a McDonald's cash register etc. It's not without issue that Harvard said that world IQ is dropping and they expect it to drop by 10 points to 2100 due to the fertility of Africa mostly. But who knows - the elite likely wants it that way.

[Oberrheiner]

(01-24-2019 09:51 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I have previously mentioned that due to my religion I was surrounded by quite a few intelligent African doctors, engineers and businessmen.

What would that be, if you don't mind me asking ?

[droughtmeat]

Then obviously there's something wrong with South African degrees, if their best university grads would essentially struggle to operate cash registers. But that tends to be the case in places where degrees can be bought for a couple of bucks.