[Richard Turpin]

(09-13-2018 06:18 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:  

Great quote. Ultimately, the jump to America or Europe just seems to daunting for most of them, the cultural differences are simply too big and everything they grew up loving is gone abruptly.

It was a great quote. And not mine unfortunately. I felt guilty for not citing the source, so have trawled through the comments and found the guy again. He's called 'Steve'!

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/boers...mment-form

Thanks Steve!

[Arado]

Apparently more than 70% of the world's platinum comes from South Africa, and platinum prices are very low. Does anyone have thoughts on if these developments will impact platinum production?

[Foolsgo1d]

(09-14-2018 09:44 AM)Arado Wrote:  

Apparently more than 70% of the world's platinum comes from South Africa, and platinum prices are very low. Does anyone have thoughts on if these developments will impact platinum production?

The Chinese will see an opportunity or some Western company which has no moral qualms over bribing officials so they can keep to themselves as they mine it.

[Emancipator]

(08-30-2018 06:09 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

^Yup. Same could be said of American slavery. I am sure whites rue the day their ancestors shipped blacks to pick cotton. Should of been like Australia. Same can be said of Rome, Egypt, sweat shops etc. The lust for cheap labour was their undoing.

(08-30-2018 07:54 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(08-30-2018 06:09 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

^Yup. Same could be said of American slavery. I am sure whites rue the day their ancestors shipped blacks to pick cotton. Should of been like Australia. Same can be said of Rome, Egypt, sweat shops etc. The lust for cheap labour was their undoing.

And the American lust for cheap labour (Mexico, HB1) will be its undoing
"BUT THEY DO JOBS AMERICANS WONT DO" ... yes Americans would do it, just not at that price point, plus automation and tech advances would come into play

(08-31-2018 12:49 PM)britchard Wrote:  

If the British had been allowed to properly rule South Africa it would be in a much better state than it is now. There were probably more Aborigines in Australia than there were Blacks in South Africa at the time of first settling. The Dutch/Afrikaners basically had no experience in colonising, they sort of just wandered aimlessly. If I remember correctly, it was 200 or so years after first settling that they even bothered to venture in to the interior (modern day Vrystaat en Gauteng). Added to that the fact that the Boers were hostile towards English settlers, this greatly decreased the numbers of immigrants wanting to move there. South Africa is in fact much more habitable than Australia, the population growth could have been incredibly exponential.

This isn't an anti-Afrikaner rant, I can completely see why they wouldn't want to be ruled by us and probably (I'm guessing here) be forced to drop their language and culture, and compete with English, Scots and Irish workers. But that also led to the current state of South Africa.

(09-13-2018 06:48 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

I am reading Ian Smiths bio. He writes that apartheid SouthAfrica could have brought in white immigrants especially after WW2, thus becoming a European majority in the country. But the Afrikaners didnt want to lose political power.

I pointed this out a few pages back, a lot of SA's problems today were due to some critical mistakes, cheap labour and restricted white immigration.

Great bio by Ian Smith, had he had control of Rhodesia+SA it would be in a much better state. Implement Rhodesia's White immigration policy in SA post WWII to watch demographics, in addition to strict border control with neighbouring black states/tribes to limit black immigration

Thirst for cheap labour can be traced back, the mining giants depended on a lot of expendable black labour.

SA was a country that had a robust culture of innovation, self centered industry with uniquely SA solutions to problems, when oil was getting restricted what did they do? Develop a way to turn coal (abundance) to usable liquid fuels. Foreign nations won't sell you shit like transportation vehicles and arms? Build your own, and develop and build nukes while you're at it.
Their universities produced medical professionals who preformed the first heart transplant.

SA is too far gone, but it should be a warning and learning lesson for western countries that demographics are everything and addiction to cheap labour will result in your downfall.

As stated in a prior post, SA is also the testing grounds for many cultural marxist tactics now seen in NA (Canada has their own truth and reconciliation committee, something first tried in post apartheid SA, The tearing down of CSA statues in the states? Seen frequently in SA with the teardown of Afrikaan and British white figures' statues.) Next up their new testing field is going to be renaming universities (Rhodes)

EDIT: Bit of a jumbled mess of a rant, enjoying a few drinks while admiring the aesthetics of former Rhodesia.

[Emancipator]

They took this from you (Salisbury, Rhodesia)

[Emancipator]

Suburban Pretoria, SA 1976



Without context, one would see this and think "Suburban USA"

South Africa in the 70s, 80s, and 90s was heavily influenced by American culture. Far more than Europe ever took after the US. Education, financial structure, music, corporate businesses, shopping malls, etc all heavily leaning towards American rather than British or Dutch.

In a lot of ways South Africa is similar to the US in geography makeup. Durban could easily be mistaken for Miami, Cape Town for one of the many California cities, Johnannesburg evokes thoughts of LA and other cities were made in the architectural image of NYC and such . It has the desert areas, the plateau's, the endless fields, and huge mountains like the Drakensberg. Even the climates can be pretty similar all around the country. For a place that's maybe 1/5th the size of the US it's a pretty diverse country in terms of landscape. But now add the African big game marvel to the mix.

Seeing old pictures of Rhodesia/SA compared to today, really hammers the point that is should be a lesson/warning for North America.

After taking the above in consideration, should White Americans be told/asked to go back to Europe/leave a beautiful landscape rich with resources they built upon since the 1600s once the demographic flip happens, as White SA are told today?...

[Pride male]

Marijuana is now legal in South Africa for personal use.

[Cr33pin]

(09-18-2018 12:02 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Marijuana is now legal in South Africa for personal use.

I'm sure its not going to rake in the tourism like Colorado

[Pride male]

^Why not? South Africa especially CapeTown, has a big tourism industry, you know Table Mountain.

[Trumpian]

I don't believe in "too far gone".

We should take Rhodesia and South Africa back. The sub-saharans won't rule those countries anyway. In our absence, they'll become a Chinese colony.

And they'll be beginning for the white man to come back then. Begging.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-18-2018 12:02 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Marijuana is now legal in South Africa for personal use.

Good cash crop. That might halt the decline, but still - requires intensive farming.

If things continue then they will add poppies and try to have coca plantations in the future.

There are already some African countries which went full gangsta, but it wasn't as profitable for the people as it seemed.

[Pride male]

(09-18-2018 01:21 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I don't believe in "too far gone".

We should take Rhodesia and South Africa back. The sub-saharans won't rule those countries anyway. In our absence, they'll become a Chinese colony.

And they'll be beginning for the white man to come back then. Begging.

I actually agree that it would be great if Rhodesia rose from the ashes. But I always thought ex Rhodies would never come back. Once bitten twice shy. It surprises me Greeks gave up on Constantinople.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-18-2018 03:22 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 01:21 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I don't believe in "too far gone".

We should take Rhodesia and South Africa back. The sub-saharans won't rule those countries anyway. In our absence, they'll become a Chinese colony.

And they'll be beginning for the white man to come back then. Begging.

I actually agree that it would be great if Rhodesia rose from the ashes. But I always thought ex Rhodies would never come back. Once bitten twice shy. It surprises me Greeks gave up on Constantinople.

Europe was highly depopulated back then. Constantinople lost 95% of their population from 1 mio. to 50.000 when the Turks attacked. Europe back then also was not only divided, but highly weakened. But history works roundabout. The conquest of Constantinople gave the Spanish the motivation to venture to the Americas. The food of the Americas - potato mostly - saved Europe nutrition-wise and the re-invigorated Europeans then went into an ever-more accelerating development period that did not stop while the Muslims remained in the Middle Ages.

Reconquering Rhodesia or South Africa is not the issue. The West is on the brink of total demographic destruction by a hostile elite - they cannot even keep their own countries in the next 100 years, let alone reconquer old dominated territories. If that crap continues then blondes will be rare and precious in 200 years - you will see them only in billionaire mansions.

[Pride male]

^I think white men need to conquer their homes and women first before taking back their countries. There has never risen a civilisation in a society where men and women were equal.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Feminism is like communism - it comes and goes since it's an idiotic system that collapses on itself some day. But when you are 30% of the population, then your country is no longer yours.

[Trumpian]

(09-18-2018 03:27 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 03:22 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 01:21 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I don't believe in "too far gone".

We should take Rhodesia and South Africa back. The sub-saharans won't rule those countries anyway. In our absence, they'll become a Chinese colony.

And they'll be beginning for the white man to come back then. Begging.

I actually agree that it would be great if Rhodesia rose from the ashes. But I always thought ex Rhodies would never come back. Once bitten twice shy. It surprises me Greeks gave up on Constantinople.

Europe was highly depopulated back then. Constantinople lost 95% of their population from 1 mio. to 50.000 when the Turks attacked. Europe back then also was not only divided, but highly weakened. But history works roundabout. The conquest of Constantinople gave the Spanish the motivation to venture to the Americas. The food of the Americas - potato mostly - saved Europe nutrition-wise and the re-invigorated Europeans then went into an ever-more accelerating development period that did not stop while the Muslims remained in the Middle Ages.

Reconquering Rhodesia or South Africa is not the issue. The West is on the brink of total demographic destruction by a hostile elite - they cannot even keep their own countries in the next 100 years, let alone reconquer old dominated territories. If that crap continues then blondes will be rare and precious in 200 years - you will see them only in billionaire mansions.

I agree that the West needs to secure the Homeland first. But bear in mind, the whole reason for Euro expansion (aka..colonialism) was because the average Euro had a shitty hand of cards if they stayed in Europe. No land, poor job prospects, corrupt leaders,etc. Not a whole lot changed.

Rhodesia is ripe for plunder. I reckon an army of 10,000 well armed rhodies could take it back. It was never a military issue. Just like SA, it was cucks in the West with their embargoes putting a huge strain on the economy.

[Pride male]

I still reckon if you took women out of politics and voting everything would fall into place.

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

(09-14-2018 09:44 AM)Arado Wrote:  

Apparently more than 70% of the world's platinum comes from South Africa, and platinum prices are very low. Does anyone have thoughts on if these developments will impact platinum production?

Russian production I think could ramp up to meet at least some of the demand. The Russians a while back dumped a whole lot of platinum and palladium on the market, sending prices sharply lower.

I bought a platinum / palladium fund (buy actual physical metals) then. Sold it a year later. Made about $1,500 (15% return). Not bad....

[MANic]

Every week there's one of these viral race videos stoking tensions (see below). South African is in a very bad space, only a matter of time.

https://m.news24.com/Video/SouthAfrica/N...n-20180919

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-19-2018 07:30 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 09:44 AM)Arado Wrote:  

Apparently more than 70% of the world's platinum comes from South Africa, and platinum prices are very low. Does anyone have thoughts on if these developments will impact platinum production?

Russian production I think could ramp up to meet at least some of the demand. The Russians a while back dumped a whole lot of platinum and palladium on the market, sending prices sharply lower.

I bought a platinum / palladium fund (buy actual physical metals) then. Sold it a year later. Made about $1,500 (15% return). Not bad....

No one is concerned about all of that. Even warlords or the future corrupt leaders cannot eat platinum. ISIS in the middle of bombardments managed to continue selling their oil. Whoever slaughters his way to the top in SA will be able to sell the platinum - even if they are picked up by the Chinese navy. Whether prices go up a big or a lot is not relevant to the world economy.

[beta_plus]

(09-19-2018 12:10 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 07:30 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 09:44 AM)Arado Wrote:  

Apparently more than 70% of the world's platinum comes from South Africa, and platinum prices are very low. Does anyone have thoughts on if these developments will impact platinum production?

Russian production I think could ramp up to meet at least some of the demand. The Russians a while back dumped a whole lot of platinum and palladium on the market, sending prices sharply lower.

I bought a platinum / palladium fund (buy actual physical metals) then. Sold it a year later. Made about $1,500 (15% return). Not bad....

No one is concerned about all of that. Even warlords or the future corrupt leaders cannot eat platinum. ISIS in the middle of bombardments managed to continue selling their oil. Whoever slaughters his way to the top in SA will be able to sell the platinum - even if they are picked up by the Chinese navy. Whether prices go up a big or a lot is not relevant to the world economy.

Agreed. Even in the Congo, which really doesn't have a national government and has endless wars, the cobalt mines used for electronics still hum along. Mining companies have enormous expertise in dealing with local warlords and gangsters.

[DarkTriad]

If the Chinese ever face the crazy guerrilla pressure SA and Rhodesia did, how do you think they'll handle it? And what are the odds of it happening?

[Pride male]

^Blacks are difficult to handle. Even in America, the greatest country on earth, we complain. Odds are high Africans will rise up. Chinese will crack down hard. My thoughts are, leave Africa alone. In the end you will regret becoming embroiled in the chaos. Like Heart of Darkness, if you fight monsters you will eventually become a monster yourself.

[Leonard D Neubache]

The Chinese aren't weighed down by any moral nonsense foisted on then by (((our loyal friends))) that corporatise the gains while hanging the human costs around the neck of John Public.

Worker rebellions will be put down by militias. Militia rebellions will be pit down by the military plus other militias. Nobody Chinese is going to give a shit about the typical Black African atrocities committed along the way, and the (((Western press))) will be too busy masturbating over the loss of White hegemony to ring any alarm bells.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

There are old plans of the globalists to settle Africa with Chinese - some 100-200 mio. would do the trick. Then the Chinese are to take control of Africa and rule as a minority with a mixed Blasian population at the top. No idea whether that old plan will be pulled through.

Currently the Chinese are not doing much except resource extraction and some military presence to secure that.

But who knows - it's not the worst plan if the Chinese one day go through with it - most Africans will have a better life if the Chinese reign. Though obviously there would be better options like I describes a few pages before about the case of Botswana. But the globalists are not interested in a much smarter and thus potentially dangerous industrialized African continent. Blacks are not as obedient as Asians. Neither Whites nor blacks would have accepted North Korean insanity for long. Even the Soviet madness had to roll back or the Russians would have risen up. The Eastern European countries would have rebelled against communism in the 1950s if the Soviet military pressure was not applied. But China is not pressuring North Korea to stay that way. It's mostly the conformity of their tribe which makes it so. A smarter African population would be also harder to control - and likely still very tribal.

So no - the globalists may manage the Chinese takeover of Africa. And to come back to it - if they rebel, then the Chinese will be ruthless. Kony in a Chinese dominated state would be long executed in some cellar.