[Noir]

This is why I love this forum, some solid advice dropped in this thread.

Personally, I think you did fine. This is how you learn, you wrote a report and can analyse what went 'wrong'.

It's counter intuitive but you have to be outcome independent in your mindset. You know she will put out, it's just a matter of time.

Regarding what she said about getting fucked here and there, your default response (for any kind of edgy shit they say) should be "that's cute". It could be a shit test, it could be a lie. It could be the truth and if she put out, you would rationalize her as being a slut. This could go so many ways so really don't read into it.

Again, kaotic, touched upon a gold nugget; indirect verbals and direct non-verbals. This is where the mystery comes in. You don't talk about sex but you are sexy. Let her mind fill in the gaps.

As for her putting out or not, it's purely sexual chemistry. With some girls, it happens the first time. With others, it's on the second or third time.

Find other girls to occupy your mind because with one girl, in this scenario, you will become overly invested.

Honestly, as long as you two had fun, the sex will come.

Good luck man.

[the1element]

(02-16-2018 12:49 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

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The worst part about this is she was telling me how she got fucked in a tunnel, church and so on.

I'm sitting here like, this fucking girl gets fucked in a church and you couldn't bang her
when she drove 40 minutes to your place...

Ok. The key is here.

The moment she started to tell you all of that stuff you should have shut her down immediately.

I know we all as men have some morbid curiosity about hearing these stories, and some girls know that.

You should have said "Listen honey, I just talk about sex with someone I had already sex with", "I don't like to talk about sex, i'd rather do it", "actions speak more than words, so please take off your pants", "If I tell you my stories you will never look at me the same way, so in the same way, I don't want to hear that"... something along these lines.

Next time, even if you feel the slightest curiosity, remember Lot from the Bible and how he did not turned his back while Sodoma was burning, and his wife became a stone after disobeying God commands.

This is complete opposite of the type of game I think would work...which means I have to try it.

The quote from the Bible is good.

(02-16-2018 12:50 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 12:37 PM)the1element Wrote:  

Ah, this was my sexualizing the conversation...

I asked her what was the most adventurous thing she has done, or was it craziest...I can't remember but it was one of those questions.

She told me about a rowing party and it was at a church...

I sort of picked up by the way she said

"It was wild"

That she got fucked, so I just asked her..

You had sex didn't you.

And then she told me the story.

One thing I've been told I am good at is making people comfortable, I've always had this sort of ability and if a girl likes me they usually feel comfortable with telling me stories of depravity.

Interesting, I'm the opposite, I never ask about their sexual history or crazy stories, even after I fuck them.

It could be this "comfort" style of asking could be somewhat of an Achilles heel - because it's messing with your head. I can tell because you were frustrated you couldn't bag her that night.

Like gents have said - don't burn this bridge, keep in contact.

Interesting take, I sort of enjoy the past sexual stories or crazy stories..but maybe I should reserve those for after sex at the least.

I'll have to try your approach...noob question here, how would you sexualize conversation? This is usually the way I do it.

Did not burn the bridge.

We're texting, she's responding just the way she did before the date. Don't see a problem here.

I should add one more detail...

Just before she left, she asked me how I deal with girls over at my moms place (we were at my dads because he was away), she said if you wanted to hang out with a girl, what do you do?

I told her that my mom works 7-5 so it would have to be in the timeframe because my mom is really religious and against me having girls over.

Then she told me that her mom doesn't care, she brings guys there and her mom doesn't say anything.

(02-16-2018 12:58 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

Gold advice. It's possible that her telling you these stories activated her anti-slut defense mechanism. So she is a chaste girl now who only accepts wining & dining...

Never thought of that. Like I said above, I'll have to try not talking about these things with a girl and see how it goes.

(02-16-2018 01:05 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

I don't it is related to an anti slut mechanism, because she is a straight slut if she feels comfortable talking about that stuff.

It is more on the guy, that starts to visualize all this stuff in his head and starts to make mistake after mistake, starts to get horny loosing his cool and composure.

A man should never loose his cool and composure.

Few talk about this.

Good stuff, this is pretty accurate.

I wasn't really super horny and lost my cool, I was cool the entire date even when she told me she had to leave I just rolled over in my bed and grabbed my laptop and started working on some work.

(02-16-2018 01:10 PM)Noir Wrote:  

This is why I love this forum, some solid advice dropped in this thread.

Personally, I think you did fine. This is how you learn, you wrote a report and can analyse what went 'wrong'.

It's counter intuitive but you have to be outcome independent in your mindset. You know she will put out, it's just a matter of time.

Regarding what she said about getting fucked here and there, your default response (for any kind of edgy shit they say) should be "that's cute". It could be a shit test, it could be a lie. It could be the truth and if she put out, you would rationalize her as being a slut. This could go so many ways so really don't read into it.

Again, kaotic, touched upon a gold nugget; indirect verbals and direct non-verbals. This is where the mystery comes in. You don't talk about sex but you are sexy. Let her mind fill in the gaps.

As for her putting out or not, it's purely sexual chemistry. With some girls, it happens the first time. With others, it's on the second or third time.

Find other girls to occupy your mind because with one girl, in this scenario, you will become overly invested.

Honestly, as long as you two had fun, the sex will come.

Good luck man.

Thanks man,

I'm happy to have like-minded men that share my interest in pussy :eatout:

I've got two girls on the go, one is sick but we should be hanging out next week (she's cuter than the one this post is about) and the other is the one I went to the waterfalls with (its in my post history), she's a virgin though and sort of distanced ish through text.

I'm happy that I'm improving the quality of girls I'm attracting though, this girl, the virgin and the one thats sick have good bodies on them and are feminine (which I really like).

[kaotic]

(02-16-2018 01:35 PM)the1element Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 12:50 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Interesting, I'm the opposite, I never ask about their sexual history or crazy stories, even after I fuck them.

It could be this "comfort" style of asking could be somewhat of an Achilles heel - because it's messing with your head. I can tell because you were frustrated you couldn't bag her that night.

Like gents have said - don't burn this bridge, keep in contact.

Interesting take, I sort of enjoy the past sexual stories or crazy stories..but maybe I should reserve those for after sex at the least.

I'll have to try your approach...noob question here, how would you sexualize conversation? This is usually the way I do it.

This right here explains a bit about you, I would stop asking those kind of questions with girls, because you sort of show your hand to her and her ASD will definitely go up, and her hamster will start spinning on how you judge her.

As far as sexualizing the conversation use her own words against her:

Her:"That was pretty hard!"
You: "That's what she said" or "oh you have no idea "

-tease her-
Her: "Fuck you LOL"
You: "I barely know you ! Just because I'm some hot piece of ass doesn't mean you can just get into my pants you perv!"

Her: "Do you do this with alot of girls?"
You: "only the cute ones" or "just a few hundred"


You get the gist of what I'm saying, it's super easy to sexualize the conversation with some toilet humor, and the bonus is, you show her you're funny as fuck, bitches love to laugh and feel comfortable.

Quote:

Did not burn the bridge.

We're texting, she's responding just the way she did before the date. Don't see a problem here.

Good, however I would've done the following:

-As she left your place, tell HER to text YOU when she gets home.
-This way the ball is in your court and YOU can text her when you want.
-I wouldn't of hit her up until the afternoon, evening, the day after the date.
-You can also use this to segway into planning for the next date and some maintenance texts.

Quote:

I should add one more detail...

Just before she left, she asked me how I deal with girls over at my moms place (we were at my dads because he was away), she said if you wanted to hang out with a girl, what do you do?

I told her that my mom works 7-5 so it would have to be in the timeframe because my mom is really religious and against me having girls over.

Then she told me that her mom doesn't care, she brings guys there and her mom doesn't say anything.

She didn't ask this incidentally, she asked this for a REASON.

I personally wouldn't of gone into any detail about that, and just say it's not a problem and you always handle it.

The last part is her literally wanting you to set some plans up to come over to her mom's house.

[H1N1]

(02-16-2018 12:37 PM)the1element Wrote:  

I actually enjoy kissing but I think it was just too robotic, I really like what you said in the 4th paragraph and first.

I try to mix it up with kissing, slow fast, delicate and aggressive.

"It strikes me that in a good kiss, you ought to be titillating her with the promise of every aspect of a great romance - tenderness and affection, intense sensuality, and at times total dominance and her complete surrender to your lead. "

This is good...I'm curious, whats your approach to the other aspects of game..say conversation and non-verbal communication.

Well, it's a tricky one to answer, and truthfully I am still trying to decide what works best for me. I've been very fortunate in terms of genes and upbringing, so girls make a lot of favourable assumptions about me. It's only recently that I've come to appreciate the leg up this gives me, and I've done a lot of counter productive stuff in the past because I was unaware I was having this effect. Previously I've been quite self-deprecating, but I'm moving away from that. I think my game works best when I allow girls to make these assumptions, do nothing to contradict them, but focus my attention on humanising myself with a contrast of charm and humour. Girls tend to respond very well when I am effective at letting them know I'm interested in them. This is the area of my game that still needs the most work.

I try to make girls laugh, generally by making fun of them, or saying slightly more risky things, in a humourous way, than people might normally dare to. For example, I am doing some bar shifts at the moment. One of the cute barmaids, who has a boyfriend, has already spent an evening explaining why she can't have sex with me - I didn't push it because she was drunk and I'd not been drinking at the time. Everyone thinks it's just a matter of time, which it is. The other night, in front of a few people, she said, 'Oh, look, you've got a spot', I replied, 'I know, I'm calling it (her name)', to which she said, 'oh really, and why is that', and I responded, 'because when I stick my fingers in it later it's going to squirt everywhere'. Everyone laughed, she blushed, laughed, and feigned outrage while giving me the 'please fuck me' eyes.

The exact ratio of humour to charm depends on the girl. Essentially though, on the non-verbal front I just try to make sure I turn up looking right, with good posture and a positive demeanour. I make lots of eye contact, and I smile a lot, and I'm a big fan of the conspiratorial wink. On the verbal front, I don't ask girls a lot about themselves, because I know I will find it boring. I should probably ask more than I do, but I find it dulls me to have to sit through all that. I'm much better, and more successful, if I go on the offensive.

The main problem I have to overcome is that girls assume I am a player, and the truth is that I am not, and have plenty of miles left to travel on the road to that particular Valhalla. Once I kiss them it's game over, but getting to that point can sometimes be tricky for me, even if they are making all the right noises.

[the1element]

(02-16-2018 01:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 01:35 PM)the1element Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 12:50 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Interesting, I'm the opposite, I never ask about their sexual history or crazy stories, even after I fuck them.

It could be this "comfort" style of asking could be somewhat of an Achilles heel - because it's messing with your head. I can tell because you were frustrated you couldn't bag her that night.

Like gents have said - don't burn this bridge, keep in contact.

Interesting take, I sort of enjoy the past sexual stories or crazy stories..but maybe I should reserve those for after sex at the least.

I'll have to try your approach...noob question here, how would you sexualize conversation? This is usually the way I do it.

This right here explains a bit about you, I would stop asking those kind of questions with girls, because you sort of show your hand to her and her ASD will definitely go up, and her hamster will start spinning on how you judge her.

As far as sexualizing the conversation use her own words against her:

Her:"That was pretty hard!"
You: "That's what she said" or "oh you have no idea "

-tease her-
Her: "Fuck you LOL"
You: "I barely know you ! Just because I'm some hot piece of ass doesn't mean you can just get into my pants you perv!"

Her: "Do you do this with alot of girls?"
You: "only the cute ones" or "just a few hundred"


You get the gist of what I'm saying, it's super easy to sexualize the conversation with some toilet humor, and the bonus is, you show her you're funny as fuck, bitches love to laugh and feel comfortable.

Quote:

Did not burn the bridge.

We're texting, she's responding just the way she did before the date. Don't see a problem here.

Good, however I would've done the following:

-As she left your place, tell HER to text YOU when she gets home.
-This way the ball is in your court and YOU can text her when you want.
-I wouldn't of hit her up until the afternoon, evening, the day after the date.
-You can also use this to segway into planning for the next date and some maintenance texts.

Quote:

I should add one more detail...

Just before she left, she asked me how I deal with girls over at my moms place (we were at my dads because he was away), she said if you wanted to hang out with a girl, what do you do?

I told her that my mom works 7-5 so it would have to be in the timeframe because my mom is really religious and against me having girls over.

Then she told me that her mom doesn't care, she brings guys there and her mom doesn't say anything.

She didn't ask this incidentally, she asked this for a REASON.

I personally wouldn't of gone into any detail about that, and just say it's not a problem and you always handle it.

The last part is her literally wanting you to set some plans up to come over to her mom's house.

Wow man, I completely get what you're saying about having these types of conversations.

And I also get the toilet humor, I actually do that just not too often.

I texted her when I did because I didn't want to come across as butthurt that she didn't fuck me. To show I'm cool I guess. Also, prior to we texted quite a lot. Nothing deep and serious, just a lot of banter and flirting.

I know she asked that for a reason, but.. I can't believe I missed the part where she was inviting me over...wow.

And that makes sense because during text she mentioned something about LOTR because I told her I've never seen the movies and she said "If you ever want an excuse to spend 12 hours in your underwear with me, that's a surefire way."

The play right now is, ignore her for a bit. If I text her, I'm gonna text her late tonight or tomorrow. After some texting, I'll set something up for next week.

[ksbms]

(02-16-2018 01:58 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

The other night, in front of a few people, she said, 'Oh, look, you've got a spot', I replied, 'I know, I'm calling it (her name)', to which she said, 'oh really, and why is that', and I responded, 'because when I stick my fingers in it later it's going to squirt everywhere'.

[the1element]

(02-16-2018 01:58 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 12:37 PM)the1element Wrote:  

I actually enjoy kissing but I think it was just too robotic, I really like what you said in the 4th paragraph and first.

I try to mix it up with kissing, slow fast, delicate and aggressive.

"It strikes me that in a good kiss, you ought to be titillating her with the promise of every aspect of a great romance - tenderness and affection, intense sensuality, and at times total dominance and her complete surrender to your lead. "

This is good...I'm curious, whats your approach to the other aspects of game..say conversation and non-verbal communication.

Well, it's a tricky one to answer, and truthfully I am still trying to decide what works best for me. I've been very fortunate in terms of genes and upbringing, so girls make a lot of favourable assumptions about me. It's only recently that I've come to appreciate the leg up this gives me, and I've done a lot of counter productive stuff in the past because I was unaware I was having this effect. Previously I've been quite self-deprecating, but I'm moving away from that. I think my game works best when I allow girls to make these assumptions, do nothing to contradict them, but focus my attention on humanising myself with a contrast of charm and humour. Girls tend to respond very well when I am effective at letting them know I'm interested in them. This is the area of my game that still needs the most work.

I try to make girls laugh, generally by making fun of them, or saying slightly more risky things, in a humourous way, than people might normally dare to. For example, I am doing some bar shifts at the moment. One of the cute barmaids, who has a boyfriend, has already spent an evening explaining why she can't have sex with me - I didn't push it because she was drunk and I'd not been drinking at the time. Everyone thinks it's just a matter of time, which it is. The other night, in front of a few people, she said, 'Oh, look, you've got a spot', I replied, 'I know, I'm calling it (her name)', to which she said, 'oh really, and why is that', and I responded, 'because when I stick my fingers in it later it's going to squirt everywhere'. Everyone laughed, she blushed, laughed, and feigned outrage while giving me the 'please fuck me' eyes.

The exact ratio of humour to charm depends on the girl. Essentially though, on the non-verbal front I just try to make sure I turn up looking right, with good posture and a positive demeanour. I make lots of eye contact, and I smile a lot, and I'm a big fan of the conspiratorial wink. On the verbal front, I don't ask girls a lot about themselves, because I know I will find it boring. I should probably ask more than I do, but I find it dulls me to have to sit through all that. I'm much better, and more successful, if I go on the offensive.

The main problem I have to overcome is that girls assume I am a player, and the truth is that I am not, and have plenty of miles left to travel on the road to that particular Valhalla. Once I kiss them it's game over, but getting to that point can sometimes be tricky for me, even if they are making all the right noises.

Nice job mate.

I don't think I've ever employed the wink into my game, Ill have to try that out.

I've done the risky humor before, girls do like it...

I find it interesting how some cats can admit to being a player and the girls like them better for it, and then others don't get the time of day if they admit to their womanizing ways.

[kaotic]

(02-16-2018 02:07 PM)the1element Wrote:  

Wow man, I completely get what you're saying about having these types of conversations.

And I also get the toilet humor, I actually do that just not too often.

You can't be a try hard when it comes to this though - it needs to flow and be natural, you should be able to to do this on the fly and witty.

I developed this after a few years of hanging around with guys who would bust my balls, I ended being able to own them on jokes and with girls it's natural. I tease them like a little sister with sexual jokes constantly - it's light and playful banter.

I'm actually never serious with girls, maybe when it comes to my background, but I never get "deep" with them, maybe after I bang them.

Quote:

I texted her when I did because I didn't want to come across as butthurt that she didn't fuck me. To show I'm cool I guess. Also, prior to we texted quite a lot. Nothing deep and serious, just a lot of banter and flirting.

You're over thinking this in my opinion, not responding first think in the AM, shows your cool with her actions, and you're a busy guy.

I don't text girls often, maybe once a day, and I text all the girls in my phone at the same time so I don't have to keep responding back at different times. It saves time and shows whose interested versus who to downgrade.

Quote:

I know she asked that for a reason, but.. I can't believe I missed the part where she was inviting me over...wow.

And that makes sense because during text she mentioned something about LOTR because I told her I've never seen the movies and she said "If you ever want an excuse to spend 12 hours in your underwear with me, that's a surefire way."

The play right now is, ignore her for a bit. If I text her, I'm gonna text her late tonight or tomorrow. After some texting, I'll set something up for next week.

Yeah dude she's LITERALLY asking to watch movies with you, this is her way of saying, "Hey we should hangout at my place and watch movies"

But let's be real, you guys won't be watching 12 hours worth of movies and hopefully be fucking.

[HankMoody]

Easy meals - (low carb)

Steak. Get two thick steaks (I mean thick), and salt them. Overnight is best. Wash them off and get all the moisture out. Season them with salt and black pepper. Rub garlic on them. Sear the shit out of them (your kitchen will be smokey), a minute on each side, then put in the oven at 275 degrees. Let them cook for about 15 minutes. Serve with green beans. If you're not eating low carb, goes well with baked potatoes. Serve with red wine. Optional: Horseradish (creamy or regular).

Cuban coconut soup. Take coconut milk, add chicken stock, and then either throw in a medley of seafood (shrimp, calamari, scallops, etc.) or grilled chicken. You can add garlic, ginger, fish sauce, peppers, scallions, onions, mushrooms, or basically whatever. Chicken stock + coconut milk always tastes good. Serve with rum.

French omelette. Get three eggs. Put them in warm water until they're room temperature. Take butter and olive oil and put it in a non-stick pan. Heat it to medium-low. Mix the eggs in a bowl. Once the butter has melted, cook on a low to medium-low heat. Once it's solid, fold it over. Add tarragon, salt, and pepper. Bonus: put bacon in the oven. Add cinnamon to the bacon (this is a good breakfast). Serve with mimosas.

Salad. Cook two skinless chicken breasts. Cut them up. (or use shrimp) Get kale or mixed greens. Good stuff to add: dried cranberries, almonds, avocado, beets, tomatoes (I prefer grape tomatoes), hard boiled egg (cut in half or sliced), onions, peppers, pears, apples, or anything. Dressing: mix apple cider vinegar, mustard, scallions, and olive oil. Add black pepper. Serve with wine.

Chicken confit: Steam two chicken breasts (skinless). In a bowl, mix coconut oil, two tablespoons of tamari, scallions, and a teaspoon of fish sauce. Put it over the chicken breasts. Serve with steamed bok choi. Serve with saki.

Roasted chicken: Buy a whole chicken. (I like to get them alive in Asian markets). Coat that sucker in salt and olive oil. The more salt the better - it's how you get the skin super crispy. If you think you're using too much salt, you're not. Cut a lemon in half, and shove it up the ass cavity. Loosen the skin and put a few pieces of butter in there. Tie up the feet, or just make an incision in the skin so that the legs are closed. Bake at 350 for about a half hour. (you can make turkey the same way).

Easy meals - high carb

Pasta. Boil pasta. Drain. Mix white wine vinegar, butter, garlic (sautéed in butter) and crushed red pepper flakes (if you like them). Feel free to add shrimp or chicken. Serve with white wine. Substitution: creamy Alfredo sauce.

Spaghetti. Boil pasta. Add red gravy, red pepper flakes, and beef. Serve with red wine. The key here is to use good noddles and a high quality gravy.

Pulled pork sliders. Throw some pork shoulder in a crockpot. Add water and beef stock. Pull apart with a fork when done. Add BBQ sauce. Put on little buns. Variation: get long hoagie rolls. Pull out all the white stuff leaving mostly crust. Fill with pulled pork.

Tacos. Get corn tortillas. Heat them up in butter. Add sliced radish, just about any type of meat (steak, chicken, al pastor, pulled pork, etc.), guacamole, chopped lettuce. Serve with corn chips and either salsa or guacamole. (For low carb version, do the same except use lettuce wraps for tortillas and serve with kale chips). Hot sauce on the side. Add Tajin seasoning to the meat. It's like $2. (I like to do a 'taco bar', and just put all the ingredients out and let her make her own). Serve with tequila.

Random Pointers

- Presentation is the key when it comes to cooking, plus wine / spirits.

- Any food can be made relatively health. For instance, substitute tacos / sandwiches with Boston lettuce, put stuff on bed of lettuce / kale instead of rice.

- Sautéed garlic + olive oil + lemon make just about anything taste good.

- Mustard always makes a good dipping sauce.

- Chili + lime makes everything taste Mexican. Add hot sauce.

- Tamari, fish sauce, ginger, coconut oil, and garlic always make a good Asian sauce. You can add this to rice or meat or rice. It's strong, though, so use sparingly. Optional: chili oil, sesame see oil. (both are strong).

- When in doubt, cook at 350.

- It's easy to overdo it. Don't buy a bunch of ingredients only to have them all go bad.

- Buy boxed wine and put it in a decanter. Buy cheap whiskey and put it in a decanter.

- Cook stuff that you will actually eat, not for her. I cook the stuff I will eat or is in my routine, meaning no pastas, cookies, cakes, rice, garbage, etc. If she doesn't like it, oh well.

- Don't eat too much or too heavy. Otherwise neither of you will feel like banging.

Bottom Line

Cooking is awesome. It will get you laid, provided you're somewhat proficient at it. It's also a good way to save money if you do it right.

I recommend reading The 4 Hour Chef by Tim Ferriss if you want to learn how to cook pretty well. It's got a ton of easy meals that look and taste great.

[the1element]

(02-16-2018 02:28 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 02:07 PM)the1element Wrote:  

Wow man, I completely get what you're saying about having these types of conversations.

And I also get the toilet humor, I actually do that just not too often.

You can't be a try hard when it comes to this though - it needs to flow and be natural, you should be able to to do this on the fly and witty.

I developed this after a few years of hanging around with guys who would bust my balls, I ended being able to own them on jokes and with girls it's natural. I tease them like a little sister with sexual jokes constantly - it's light and playful banter.

I'm actually never serious with girls, maybe when it comes to my background, but I never get "deep" with them, maybe after I bang them.

Quote:

I texted her when I did because I didn't want to come across as butthurt that she didn't fuck me. To show I'm cool I guess. Also, prior to we texted quite a lot. Nothing deep and serious, just a lot of banter and flirting.

You're over thinking this in my opinion, not responding first think in the AM, shows your cool with her actions, and you're a busy guy.

I don't text girls often, maybe once a day, and I text all the girls in my phone at the same time so I don't have to keep responding back at different times. It saves time and shows whose interested versus who to downgrade.

Quote:

I know she asked that for a reason, but.. I can't believe I missed the part where she was inviting me over...wow.

And that makes sense because during text she mentioned something about LOTR because I told her I've never seen the movies and she said "If you ever want an excuse to spend 12 hours in your underwear with me, that's a surefire way."

The play right now is, ignore her for a bit. If I text her, I'm gonna text her late tonight or tomorrow. After some texting, I'll set something up for next week.

Yeah dude she's LITERALLY asking to watch movies with you, this is her way of saying, "Hey we should hangout at my place and watch movies"

But let's be real, you guys won't be watching 12 hours worth of movies and hopefully be fucking.

I have a problem with overthinking...

It's my default state of mind for sure.

And yea, I don't want to watch 12 hours of LOTR either haha.

(02-16-2018 02:33 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Easy meals - (low carb)

Steak. Get two thick steaks (I mean thick), and salt them. Overnight is best. Wash them off and get all the moisture out. Season them with salt and black pepper. Rub garlic on them. Sear the shit out of them (your kitchen will be smokey), a minute on each side, then put in the oven at 275 degrees. Let them cook for about 15 minutes. Serve with green beans. If you're not eating low carb, goes well with baked potatoes. Serve with red wine. Optional: Horseradish (creamy or regular).

Cuban coconut soup. Take coconut milk, add chicken stock, and then either throw in a medley of seafood (shrimp, calamari, scallops, etc.) or grilled chicken. You can add garlic, ginger, fish sauce, peppers, scallions, onions, mushrooms, or basically whatever. Chicken stock + coconut milk always tastes good. Serve with rum.

French omelette. Get three eggs. Put them in warm water until they're room temperature. Take butter and olive oil and put it in a non-stick pan. Heat it to medium-low. Mix the eggs in a bowl. Once the butter has melted, cook on a low to medium-low heat. Once it's solid, fold it over. Add tarragon, salt, and pepper. Bonus: put bacon in the oven. Add cinnamon to the bacon (this is a good breakfast). Serve with mimosas.

Salad. Cook two skinless chicken breasts. Cut them up. (or use shrimp) Get kale or mixed greens. Good stuff to add: dried cranberries, almonds, avocado, beets, tomatoes (I prefer grape tomatoes), hard boiled egg (cut in half or sliced), onions, peppers, pears, apples, or anything. Dressing: mix apple cider vinegar, mustard, scallions, and olive oil. Add black pepper. Serve with wine.

Chicken confit: Steam two chicken breasts (skinless). In a bowl, mix coconut oil, two tablespoons of tamari, scallions, and a teaspoon of fish sauce. Put it over the chicken breasts. Serve with steamed bok choi. Serve with saki.

Roasted chicken: Buy a whole chicken. (I like to get them alive in Asian markets). Coat that sucker in salt and olive oil. The more salt the better - it's how you get the skin super crispy. If you think you're using too much salt, you're not. Cut a lemon in half, and shove it up the ass cavity. Loosen the skin and put a few pieces of butter in there. Tie up the feet, or just make an incision in the skin so that the legs are closed. Bake at 350 for about a half hour. (you can make turkey the same way).

Easy meals - high carb

Pasta. Boil pasta. Drain. Mix white wine vinegar, butter, garlic (sautéed in butter) and crushed red pepper flakes (if you like them). Feel free to add shrimp or chicken. Serve with white wine. Substitution: creamy Alfredo sauce.

Spaghetti. Boil pasta. Add red gravy, red pepper flakes, and beef. Serve with red wine. The key here is to use good noddles and a high quality gravy.

Pulled pork sliders. Throw some pork shoulder in a crockpot. Add water and beef stock. Pull apart with a fork when done. Add BBQ sauce. Put on little buns. Variation: get long hoagie rolls. Pull out all the white stuff leaving mostly crust. Fill with pulled pork.

Tacos. Get corn tortillas. Heat them up in butter. Add sliced radish, just about any type of meat (steak, chicken, al pastor, pulled pork, etc.), guacamole, chopped lettuce. Serve with corn chips and either salsa or guacamole. (For low carb version, do the same except use lettuce wraps for tortillas and serve with kale chips). Hot sauce on the side. Add Tajin seasoning to the meat. It's like $2. (I like to do a 'taco bar', and just put all the ingredients out and let her make her own). Serve with tequila.

Random Pointers

- Presentation is the key when it comes to cooking, plus wine / spirits.

- Any food can be made relatively health. For instance, substitute tacos / sandwiches with Boston lettuce, put stuff on bed of lettuce / kale instead of rice.

- Sautéed garlic + olive oil + lemon make just about anything taste good.

- Mustard always makes a good dipping sauce.

- Chili + lime makes everything taste Mexican. Add hot sauce.

- Tamari, fish sauce, ginger, coconut oil, and garlic always make a good Asian sauce. You can add this to rice or meat or rice. It's strong, though, so use sparingly. Optional: chili oil, sesame see oil. (both are strong).

- When in doubt, cook at 350.

- It's easy to overdo it. Don't buy a bunch of ingredients only to have them all go bad.

- Buy boxed wine and put it in a decanter. Buy cheap whiskey and put it in a decanter.

- Cook stuff that you will actually eat, not for her. I cook the stuff I will eat or is in my routine, meaning no pastas, cookies, cakes, rice, garbage, etc. If she doesn't like it, oh well.

- Don't eat too much or too heavy. Otherwise neither of you will feel like banging.

Bottom Line

Cooking is awesome. It will get you laid, provided you're somewhat proficient at it. It's also a good way to save money if you do it right.

I recommend reading The 4 Hour Chef by Tim Ferriss if you want to learn how to cook pretty well. It's got a ton of easy meals that look and taste great.

Perfect, I'm saving this shit and I'll use some of these recipies and let you know how it goes.

Thanks man

[Polniy_Sostav]

OP ... I can feel you are clever and talented. Don't overthink too much.What is done is done. Focus on the future and try to make less mistakes (the ones you only understand afterwards)

[Northern Wastes]

Sorry to hear to lost the Bang man, but back to your original question.

There is all sorts of recipes posted by others here that you can always fall back on, and even on the net just look up something you have always wanted to make, most times the first 3 options that pop up are solid.

That being said I think many people have mentioned here before the importance of being able to cook. I'm by no means a professional, but compared to my friends and people my age I might as well be Julia Roberts. I eat, a-lot and I cook all the time. And I'm picky as hell. I blame it on my mother; (bless her Dutch heart) who was one of the best cooks I have still to ever meet.

I've made food for a few girls and whenever my LTR comes over I make us both food. Girls can hardly cook for shit nowadays and being able to cook better than them shows your higher value.

If you have a slow cooker here is a fool proof recipe since it takes 10 minutes of prep and 10 more to complete; and you can plan it out beforehand.

Northern Wastes Nacho/Taco Recipe

What you will need:
Salsa from the Store. I usually get Medium, chunky doesn't have enough liquid. I use the Pace brand
Spices
Tortillas or Tortilla Chips
Kirkland Frozen Chicken Breast from Costco
Refried Beans
Assorted Veggies
Shredded Cheese if you don’t have a cheese grater
Sour Cream

Take the chicken breast (2-3) and put them in cold water to thaw out a bit. You can just throw them in completely frozen but I find letting them defrost a bit helps get them out of the bag.

Set the Crock pot to high

Pour 1 cup salsa into the slow cooker and throw in the chicken

Add your spices
1 Tsp Chilli Powder
1 Tsp Cumin
1 Tsp Onion Powder
1 Tsp Paprika
1/2 Tsp Salt
1/2 Tsp Pepper

I like to peel an onion and throw a few layers of onions in there too. 4-5 big pieces.

Stir it up and make sure the spices mix and the chicken gets covered by the salsa.

If you have them put a few bay leaves on top for flavor but make sure you don't eat them. If you bought them in the store they shouldn't be dangerous to eat but they break up and you can get mouthfuls. Just take them out.

Let it cook. 8-10 hours on high 10-12 on low.

I like to either set it right before I go to bed around 10ish or in the morning as I am leaving for work.

Come back after the time has elapsed and you now have some dank ass chicken.

Take two forks and shred it, there should be lots of juice. Give it a taste, seriously this stuff tastes like crack.

If you're serving it now leave it in the pot otherwise put it in a container and put it in the fridge.

Now that you have a meat out of the way the rest of it is a breeze.

Get your beans and put them on the stove. Remember to recycle that shit while you're at it. Bitches love the environment.

Heat up your tortillas. If you can't do it on the stove microwave will work.
If you’re making Nachos put your cheese on it and microwave that. I like well melted cheese and put it in for 1 minute but that's up to you.

Have her cut up the veggies.
I like
Diced Lettuce
Diced Tomato
Diced Onion
Avocado (Bitches Love Avocados)
Diced Jalapenos if you like spice

If you’re making Nachos put the beans and chicken on top of the Nachos and then add your veggies. Use the same salsa as a side with the sour cream.

If you’re making tacos put the beans on one side of the taco and the sour cream on the other. Put the chicken in the middle and then top if off with your veggies and cheese.

Bam.

This shit tastes bomb as hell.

I personally do my best to stay away from dairy and don’t use sour cream or cheese but it hasn’t altered the overall flavor for me.

The great thing about this recipe is that it is the exact same for pork or beef.

You will probably have leftover chicken which you can just eat for yourself later.

Granted this recipe is reliant on having a slow cooker but if you don’t you can cut the chicken up and cook it a pan and add the spices to it.

Hope next time works out for you man.

[Northern Wastes]

(02-16-2018 11:42 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

One thing that doesn't get talked about here much is kissing. Being a good kisser is an extremely effective way of getting girls into bed. I think the lack of writing on this leaves out a crucial part of game that a great many men could turn to their benefit. Almost all girls I've ever kissed have complained to me of how bad most men are at kissing. It strikes me that in a good kiss, you ought to be titillating her with the promise of every aspect of a great romance - tenderness and affection, intense sensuality, and at times total dominance and her complete surrender to your lead.

There is a world of game in a single kiss. From the soft, playful, comfort building brushing of lips that mimics the early stages of seduction; to those first gentle bites so redolent of the leap one makes in first making explicit but measured overtures of carnality - the moment where, both in the kiss as in the seduction, you invite her in to something rather larger and more intimate - seeking reciprocation and escalation; to the judicious use of tongue, leading sensuality, but always promising that there is more to come.

Equally the effective deployment of your hands, soft at first, focused on her face, shoulders and waist, the places that make her feel small and in need of protection when in your arms - the gentle tilting of her chin to meet your mouth, and the careful repositioning of her mouth for you to better explore it; then the more assertive use of the hands, once comfort is established, as you start to gently bite her lips running your hands through the hair at the nape of her neck, pulling her in gently but firmly as you bite to take more complete control of her, pulling her in by her waist too, perhaps, at the same time; and then as with the tongue, starting to use the hands to show the possibility of intense sensuality to come - running the thumb gently but firmly up the front of her throat to her chin as you withdraw the tongue and bite her lip, before reverting to the careful and tender use of the lips alone - withdrawing that intensity almost as soon as you offered it, so that she comes back hard chasing it - always controlling the tempo, escalating and withdrawing, but each time building to a higher point, and withdrawing to a level that is still greater than the last.

Done right, I think a single kiss should have her aching for you hands across her body, so that when you do, eventually and calculatedly, brush the side of a breast with the palm of your hand as you pull her in tighter under one of her arms, it's both a blessed relief for her, and yet increases her desire and frustration, enhances the potential for further aching for you, and allows you to string matters out still further until she manifests her overflowing desire by whimpering when you touch her throat, or tits, or pull her hair.

When you really kiss a girl in a way that excites and teases her with the promise of a thousand unrealised fantasies that are now there on the tip of her tongue, I don't believe they are actually capable of putting up LMR. I can't think of a single occasion in my adult life where I have encountered it once I've managed to engineer a kiss in a location conducive to intimacy. Very often my experience has been that girls I've kissed for probably no more than 5 minutes will quite literally start stripping, or groping for my cock, or placing my hands on their pussies to show me that they are dripping.

Good stuff. I feel like I am a terrible kisser haha but I just roll with it.

[the1element]

(02-16-2018 03:29 PM)Northern Wastes Wrote:  

Sorry to hear to lost the Bang man, but back to your original question.

There is all sorts of recipes posted by others here that you can always fall back on, and even on the net just look up something you have always wanted to make, most times the first 3 options that pop up are solid.

That being said I think many people have mentioned here before the importance of being able to cook. I'm by no means a professional, but compared to my friends and people my age I might as well be Julia Roberts. I eat, a-lot and I cook all the time. And I'm picky as hell. I blame it on my mother; (bless her Dutch heart) who was one of the best cooks I have still to ever meet.

I've made food for a few girls and whenever my LTR comes over I make us both food. Girls can hardly cook for shit nowadays and being able to cook better than them shows your higher value.

If you have a slow cooker here is a fool proof recipe since it takes 10 minutes of prep and 10 more to complete; and you can plan it out beforehand.

Northern Wastes Nacho/Taco Recipe

What you will need:
Salsa from the Store. I usually get Medium, chunky doesn't have enough liquid. I use the Pace brand
Spices
Tortillas or Tortilla Chips
Kirkland Frozen Chicken Breast from Costco
Refried Beans
Assorted Veggies
Shredded Cheese if you don’t have a cheese grater
Sour Cream

Take the chicken breast (2-3) and put them in cold water to thaw out a bit. You can just throw them in completely frozen but I find letting them defrost a bit helps get them out of the bag.

Set the Crock pot to high

Pour 1 cup salsa into the slow cooker and throw in the chicken

Add your spices
1 Tsp Chilli Powder
1 Tsp Cumin
1 Tsp Onion Powder
1 Tsp Paprika
1/2 Tsp Salt
1/2 Tsp Pepper

I like to peel an onion and throw a few layers of onions in there too. 4-5 big pieces.

Stir it up and make sure the spices mix and the chicken gets covered by the salsa.

If you have them put a few bay leaves on top for flavor but make sure you don't eat them. If you bought them in the store they shouldn't be dangerous to eat but they break up and you can get mouthfuls. Just take them out.

Let it cook. 8-10 hours on high 10-12 on low.

I like to either set it right before I go to bed around 10ish or in the morning as I am leaving for work.

Come back after the time has elapsed and you now have some dank ass chicken.

Take two forks and shred it, there should be lots of juice. Give it a taste, seriously this stuff tastes like crack.

If you're serving it now leave it in the pot otherwise put it in a container and put it in the fridge.

Now that you have a meat out of the way the rest of it is a breeze.

Get your beans and put them on the stove. Remember to recycle that shit while you're at it. Bitches love the environment.

Heat up your tortillas. If you can't do it on the stove microwave will work.
If you’re making Nachos put your cheese on it and microwave that. I like well melted cheese and put it in for 1 minute but that's up to you.

Have her cut up the veggies.
I like
Diced Lettuce
Diced Tomato
Diced Onion
Avocado (Bitches Love Avocados)
Diced Jalapenos if you like spice

If you’re making Nachos put the beans and chicken on top of the Nachos and then add your veggies. Use the same salsa as a side with the sour cream.

If you’re making tacos put the beans on one side of the taco and the sour cream on the other. Put the chicken in the middle and then top if off with your veggies and cheese.

Bam.

This shit tastes bomb as hell.

I personally do my best to stay away from dairy and don’t use sour cream or cheese but it hasn’t altered the overall flavor for me.

The great thing about this recipe is that it is the exact same for pork or beef.

You will probably have leftover chicken which you can just eat for yourself later.

Granted this recipe is reliant on having a slow cooker but if you don’t you can cut the chicken up and cook it a pan and add the spices to it.

Hope next time works out for you man.

This one sounds good as well, thanks for sharing that. Definitely will use the recipie suggestions with or without dates. They sound so good.


I'm about to head to work.

And I think after all of this analyzing, I need to remember this was the hottest girl I've EVER had in my bed and interested in me.

Not chubby, not fat, feminine, nice body, healthy etc.

That's a fucking achievement.

I'm going to hold my head high because I know now I can attract hot girls that aren't chubby, fat, feminist types.

[Dragan]

(02-16-2018 11:37 AM)robreke Wrote:  

Tough that you didn't get the bang after that work.

Back to the original topic though. When I invite girls over to "cook" for them, here's what I do:

Drive to whole foods and go through the buffet line.

Pick up grilled chicken, roasted sweet potatoes (or some good grilled veggie mix) and some greens.

I come home and put those in ceramic plates in the refrigerator and cover and then throw away the whole foods boxes.

When she comes over, I tell her I recently finished cooking and heat up the food in the microwave and serve on plates.

Add some wine and she's impressed. I don't like wasting time cooking.

I love these simple tricks. Would love to head over to Panda Express and surprise the girl with some of my freshly cooked Americanized-Chinese food. We may be on to a lucrative business idea!

[HankMoody]

Hank's fridge / pantry (everything is organic and local if possible)

- Eggs
- Frozen fish, with a few frozen pork chops / steak / bacon / chicken also in the freezer
- Apple butter
- Sauces: hot sauce (tons of varieties), fish sauce, mustard (all varieties except honey mustard), organic catsup, tamari, Worcester, claim juice, etc.
- Oils: Coconut oil, red palm oil, olive oil, hot chili oil, sesame seed oil
- Coconut milk (unsweetened and in a can)
- Red gravy (get the good stuff with no sugar)
- Vinegars: apple cider, white wine, red wine, balsamic, sherry (sort of sweet; use sparingly)
- Fish oil (not for cooking; as a supplement)
- Seasonings: salt, pepper, turmeric, cinnamon, curry, paprika, berber, Old Bay, kelp (has healthy iodine - I put this stuff on everything), tarragon (tastes good on eggs but not much else), basil, thyme, oregano, curry (make sure to get the stuff from the "ethnic" aisle, not the American stuff, which has wheat in it), Tanjin. Salt and pepper make just about everything taste good.
- Red sauerkraut (aids with digestion). Kimchi sometimes. Horseradish. Pickles. If you're "bored eating" these foods are practically zero calories -- gorge yourself on sauerkraut and pickles.
- Tea (green, oolong, English breakfast, Irish breakfast), good coffee (drank black)
- Tuna fish / sardines / salmon (canned; all wild and organic). I live off this stuff.
- Oranges and avocados. Apples if they're local / organic. Other fruit depending on what's in season. (pears, cherries, pomegranate, etc.)
- Ginger (frozen), garlic (peeled and in water)
- Mixed greens / kale / brussel sprouts (freeze the sprouts)
- Frozen fruit (blue berries, raspberries, concord grapes, strawberries)
- Canned peppers, artichoke hearts, and banana peppers
- Coconuts (last a long time - eat somewhat sparingly as they're high in calories)
- Brazil nuts / almonds / raisins (eat sparingly)
- Butter / ghee
- Drinks: Wine (red and in a box; I don't drink beer or much liquor), water (add apple cider vinegar for taste), sometimes coconut water after a workout
- Greek yogurt / cottage cheese

You can put together some tasty meals that are also healthy. Pork chops and apple butter; eggs and cinnamon bacon; white fish seasoned with lemon, butter, and garlic; steak seasoned with salt, pepper, and thyme; fisherman's stew (red gravy, clam juice, seafood medley, and butter); braised lamb au jus, etc. The key to good cooking is simplicity. For dessert, I cut up an orange into slices, along with either expresso or coffee. Maybe some grapes or fruit in cottage cheese.

However, most of my daily meals females would find "gross." Sardines with mustard and Worcester sauce in a lettuce wrap, tuna on mixed greens with avocado and hot sauce, plain eggs with tarragon, artichoke hearts, and peppers, hardboiled egg or two, piece of fruit, etc. Usually I'm on the go and need to eat quickly. I use Sunday evenings to prepare meals to take to work, plus I have a mini-fridge in my office with mixed greens, kale, some homemade dressings, etc. (Eating out every single day adds up). Maybe cook up some chicken breasts, hard boil a dozen eggs, and make a few salad dressings.

I try and go food shopping once a week, and mostly stick to stuff that I can freeze and won't go bad because I'm single.

What you won't find in my house: bread, sugar, treats, milk (if you drink milk, go full fat), cheese, chips, flour, salad dressings (I make my own), croutons, soda (except under the bar), honey mustard, cereal, pretzels, frozen meals, beer, peanut butter (I can down an entire jar of this stuff), bagels, Poptarts, fruit juice (except cranberry juice for a mixer; sometimes orange juice as a mixer if I'm having a lady over), sweeteners (even artificial ones), noodles, rice, etc.

I'm not willing to switch up my diet just because a woman is coming over to cook. If she wants to be with me, she has to learn to eat the foods I eat, and keep up with my lifestyle.

A fun date for me is riding our bikes to the gym, working out, and then riding back to my house for a healthy home cooked dinner...

[Steve McQueen]

Agree with this, just forget that fool, you think she's obsessed with your take?

[realologist]

Make something light. Make something that's not going to have to make you or her drop a giant deuce in the bathroom mid foreplay and totally kill the mods. Enchiladas might be delicious but a bad choice on a date when you're trying to fuck.

[the1element]

Shit, so I've texted this girl a few times...

I lost the vibe, for a few texts...

Just was overthinking shit too much and said some silly things.

She was responding with less interest.

So I changed topics to something light and she just texted me back pretty quick, the vibe seems to have been revived (or I'm wrong and it was never lost)...

Anyways,

The take away for this is to switch up the topics if you feel the conversation is hitting a wall.

[ksbms]

Guys have tendency to beat up a dead horse. All convo should be light. You can snip and stack forward at any point in time. And always positive. She has to have an association you're the best fun in her life. Punish for misbehaviour by not replying only. Indifference is the best whip.

[the1element]

(02-17-2018 05:39 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

Guys have tendency to beat up a dead horse. All convo should be light. You can snip and stack forward at any point in time. And always positive. She has to have an association you're the best fun in her life. Punish for misbehaviour by not replying only. Indifference is the best whip.

Yea guys definitely beat up a dead horse.

This relates more to conversation than texting but in a conversation, there's a window you have to talk about something, if you don't take that window you've missed out and have to forget about it.

[the1element]

Update -

She went all weird,

Could tell she was trying to lead me on and try to use me for validation.

Told her I have no interest in being her friend, and that pretty much ended that.

Supposed to hang out last night under the idea "We're just going to chill in the living room, we're not going to my room. I'm not physically comfortable with the idea of sex."

Next.

[dknightbro]

I can tell what your problem was.

You didn't maintain a consistent sexual frame. So when you escalated, her LMR went on the rise.

It's a common mistake to look at Mystery Method and think you can turn phases like a snap of a finger. Like full, deep comfort rapport into sex phase.

Begin the date with playful, sexual teasing while cooking your food like a man. Maintain that frame throughout the night and SHE will end up chasing you to the bedroom.

Live & learn.

[Filbert]

I guess the easiest is to cook spaghetti - you cook spaghetti, then add spaghetti sauce and olive oil (and maybe cheese). And a bottle of Marone. Some malls sell ready made spaghetti sauces.

[treypound]

I had a first date at my place a couple months ago, and was running late working. Rather than reschedule the date, I ordered some italian from a nice spot in town, and had Postmates deliver it. She was happy (italian is her fav) and that 40 bucks gave a good ROI.