[Suits]

(02-10-2018 12:55 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(02-10-2018 12:33 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 11:30 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

It's against the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for the airline (or anyone) to ask you what the animal is for. That's like I have to prove to you I'm handicapped, which doesn't work. My health is not any of your business.

When you get these clowns trying to take peacocks and hamsters onto planes (which obviously isn't very much emotional support, since she flushed it down the toilet, wtf?), it just muddies the waters for everyone.

What's your disability?

lol... You're not allowed to ask me that.

Actually, I am. I don't live in the US nor am I an American citizen and therefore I'm not governed by the ADA or any other American law.

[Elster]

Remember when it would be considered a stigma to be labeled "disabled" and when being "emotionally" so would have probably made everyone burst into laughter?

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I don’t know this girl, but I know those eyes. Trust me.

She never took good care of Pebbles. Pebbles was a nightmare, but not entirely at fault.

If Pebbles was a dog, it would have never been trained to go the bathroom outside. Would have been confined to the degradation of bitch made potty pads, taking every leak from the interior of its own dwelling against all calls of nature. Hating itself and all humans in one eternally repetitive and echoing bark.

Pebbles died terribly, but I assure you there was an embrace by this creature of all the living days now being done and gone. No more bullshit for this hamster, but hers will continue spinning the wheel.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I don't care about folk bringing along non-poisonous non-dangerous animals in containers like hamsters or cats, or have dogs along with them.

But things have gone mental with some women - here you have this one bringing her emotional support peacock into the airport - footage:

And I also get it that folk want to transport their animals next to them. Airlines could do special compartments for that where the seats are crated and you pay double or triple to do it, then all this bullshit should not be an issue.

A hamster or dog won't matter either way, but a peacock, alligator or your box of emotional support spiders seriously are bat-shit-crazy.

Whatever happened to common sense?

Also on the topic of women - millennial bitches drowning their hamsters and grandmas killing their cats:

[Dulceácido]

(02-10-2018 01:51 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(02-10-2018 12:55 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(02-10-2018 12:33 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 11:30 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

It's against the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for the airline (or anyone) to ask you what the animal is for. That's like I have to prove to you I'm handicapped, which doesn't work. My health is not any of your business.

When you get these clowns trying to take peacocks and hamsters onto planes (which obviously isn't very much emotional support, since she flushed it down the toilet, wtf?), it just muddies the waters for everyone.

What's your disability?

lol... You're not allowed to ask me that.

Actually, I am. I don't live in the US nor am I an American citizen and therefore I'm not governed by the ADA or any other American law.

I still don't have to answer.

[Hypno]

I suspect that this lady is not truly disabled, and is just peacocking.

(02-10-2018 05:10 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

But things have gone mental with some women - here you have this one bringing her emotional support peacock into the airport - footage:

[Hypno]

The ESA thing is really getting out of hand. Airlines are the least of it. Everytime I go to the grocery store I see some nut with an animal there, its not sanitary.

[Leonard D Neubache]

[PapayaTapper]

(02-10-2018 01:04 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 11:30 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 06:33 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 05:35 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 03:51 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Papaya Trapper is actually our foremost expert on this situation. Trust me. Send him a private message.

He knows the rules. Keep up the good work.

Aloha!

I'm not sure, but I think I'm the mostly qualified on this topic. I mean, I have a service dog. Maybe some other members has one as well, but not likely They're actually kind of rare. No worries if he does, kudos. No big deal.

Whatever.

I just don't think a hamster qualifies. In fact, I'm quite sure it doesn't.

OK.

I don't think papaya TAPPER has an actual service animal, he's on the fringe, but knows the rules. I don't want to come out and say what I know.

Nonetheless, imagine if the stewardess pointed up to the first class cabin and said Richard Gere was on the plane. Then imagine the stewardess waking up Richard like "sir, we have a hamster on board." Now there's a story.

Aloha!

You're wrong Kona. It is actually illegal for someone to ask you about a service animal. I deal with this on the daily.

https://adata.org/faq/how-can-i-tell-if-...t-just-pet

It's not "illegal" to ask certain questions but you can be sued for discrimination if handled improperly. It is however, most certainly lawful for an airline to refuse a customer who does not present the proper paperwork and give formal notice, in advance. There are also size/species restrictions. Read up homeboy.

https://www.nsarco.com/what-to-expect-airport.html
https://www.esaregistration.org/blog/fly...-your-esa/

9 times out of 10, there are no issues. These wackos and their crazy pets and attention whoring have got to stop though.

This thread was about an emotional support animal (ESA) not service animals. Those are two completely different animals.

Like, literally

Fictitious emotional support animals are just as useful (if you know how to use them) and way cool though.

[dicknixon72]

This is just a designer way to avoid a crating charge for an animal. And/or for attention.

No one is guaranteed a right to fly. And people stop need to make flying more like the Greyhound Bus with Wings that it has sadly become.

There used to be a time in this great nation's not-so-distant past when upper middle-class people of means of all races, creeds, and colors would arrive to an airport in their Sunday Best, saunter up to the gate, interact with gorgeous young lady after gorgeous young lady, and sink into the mutli-hued brown velour comfort of a wide business-class lounger, sip a complimentary club soda, and enjoy the decadence of it all...moments before your DC-10's #2 turbofan detonates in a cacophony of titanium blades, searing-hot jet fuel, and aluminum shrapnel as what's left of your depressurized cabin tumbles earthward into a fiery maelstrom on a middle range of the Cascades.

Today, you're all but guaranteed a safe arrival...sandwiched between a unshowered body-positive genderfluid gastropod who's licking zer chops at the squealing comfort pig of an unshorn soy waif male blogger clad in Spiderman sweatpants and matching tee while an over-the-hill Homosexual attempts to collect $6.50 from you because you read the advertisement on back of the Safety Exit card while your Toulouse-assembled Airbus A321NeoMagaSardine hurtles through the congested skies of Chicago. Sure, you'll land on time and in one piece, but you'll be a little less human inside.

I'd rather die with dignity at 30,000 feet than arrive in Tulsa for $89.99 +++...

[Suits]

(02-09-2018 11:30 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

It's against the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for the airline (or anyone) to ask you what the animal is for. That's like I have to prove to you I'm handicapped, which doesn't work. My health is not any of your business.

Dulceácido's embrace of the ADA is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with America and the Western world. The last three decades have seen a slow, feminism inspired slide into dysfunction, as the rights of a few individuals have been granted special significance at the cost of civilized society and reason.

In any civilized society there is give and take. Letting people like Dulceácido take pets anywhere they please is like letting grown adults perform a bowel movement anywhere they please.

If you drop your pants, pull out a roll of toilet paper and get down to business in the middle of a theme park, you're bound to attract some negative attention.

You can't just screech "my health is none of your business!" and expect people to simply allow you to do whatever you please.

Sure, as unfair is it may be that your irritable bowel syndrome is inconvenient to you, life isn't fair and your "disability" shouldn't be a license to force others to watch you go to the bathroom next to the Twister of Doom 2 rollercoaster.

There needs to be limits on all forms of power and for allegedly disabled people who want to take their pets everywhere, there needs to be some expectation of reasonable fairness for all involved. An extreme allergy to dog hair can be a serious health issue, but Dulceácido believes that his disability means that his right to take his pet to a movie theater trumps the rights of those who can't watch a movie with his pet present.

The ADA is a clear case of federal over-reach and is an attack on the rights of private business owners.

[puckerman]

I have noticed more and more in America and in other democratic societies that vocal and passionate minorities prevail over the quite somewhat indifferent majorities. Let's take an example at the local level.

Old man or old woman goes to city council meeting. He complains that a two-way stop intersection in his neighborhood should be changed to a four-way stop. Now most other people in the neighborhood and town figure it's probably not needed at all, but it's not that big a deal to them. They don't say anything about it. The complainer keeps going to city council meetings until the council eventually votes yet just to shut him up.

Then suddenly everyone else notices the four-way stop. They wonder: "Why do we need this four-way stop?" But none of them are passionate enough to complain about it. The four-way stop stands.

At a larger level, I lobby the federal government for a $1 tax on every American citizen which will go straight to me. For Americans, it's "just a dollar." They don't care that much about it. For me, it's a big deal because I get over $300 million. I bribe Senators and everyone I can just to keep my little scheme going.

Unfortunately, this is how things work. I don't know how you fix the problem.

Scream and shouting win over calm talking and reasoning.

[PapayaTapper]

^And this, in a nutshell, is exactly how most men cede power over time to the woman in their lives. The "It aint worth it" micro-battle drops in a bucket that end with her having zero respect and endless disdain for the "big picture thinker" that provided, guided, and tolerated

[Leonard D Neubache]

If Dulc is indeed a war vet with service related disabilities then I don't see a problem with him getting to cart a dog around if it helps.

If your society is incapable of saying yes to the war vet and no to the neurotic basic-bitch then your problem is a lack of balls, not a lack of compassion.

[Dulceácido]

(02-10-2018 10:49 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Dulceácido's embrace of the ADA is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with America and the Western world. The last three decades have seen a slow, feminism inspired slide into dysfunction, as the rights of a few individuals have been granted special significance at the cost of civilized society and reason.

In any civilized society there is give and take. Letting people like Dulceácido take pets anywhere they please is like letting grown adults perform a bowel movement anywhere they please.

If you drop your pants, pull out a roll of toilet paper and get down to business in the middle of a theme park, you're bound to attract some negative attention.

You can't just screech "my health is none of your business!" and expect people to simply allow you to do whatever you please.

Sure, as unfair is it may be that your irritable bowel syndrome is inconvenient to you, life isn't fair and your "disability" shouldn't be a license to force others to watch you go to the bathroom next to the Twister of Doom 2 rollercoaster.

There needs to be limits on all forms of power and for allegedly disabled people who want to take their pets everywhere, there needs to be some expectation of reasonable fairness for all involved. An extreme allergy to dog hair can be a serious health issue, but Dulceácido believes that his disability means that his right to take his pet to a movie theater trumps the rights of those who can't watch a movie with his pet present.

The ADA is a clear case of federal over-reach and is an attack on the rights of private business owners.

Firstly, I didn't write the ADA. I had nothing to do with it.

Secondly, ownership of a service animal requires responsibility. If I am in a place and someone says they have a dog allergy or the more likely (what I get often) is they have a dog phobia, I'm the one that moves away from them/trades seats with someone/wait for another flight, etc. I don't start quoting the provisions of the ADA. But, if a restaurant manager doesn't want me in a public establishment just because he doesn't like having a dog there, that's too bad for him. The idea is to prevent discrimination against the handicap. It's the same as any other anti-discrimination law. "We don't serve black people." Too, bad, you're going to get a federal lawsuit.

And your little experiment in ridicule suggesting that someone with IBS should be able to shit wherever they want is absurd.
Service animals are prescribed for people with disabilities, not a mild form of embarrassment or discomfort. The most common are severe PTSD, sight or hearing impairments, seizures, retardation or autism, and many physical limitations which prevent you from doing a task that the animal can perform for you. You don't get them for having an upset tummy.

I've only had two indents with the dog where people were uncomfortable with him. Once was on an airplane, which I've already described in a separate thread, and the other time was at a restaurant when there was another service dog there with a blind dude and the dogs wanted to play with each other so badly they were making a raucous. I simply moved to another side of the place and no big deal.

Being protected by anti-discriminination laws, doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it and intentionally fuck with people, i.e. all the gay couples going to the homophobe cake maker and demanding he makes them a wedding cake. Just go to another fucking bakery.

As for the provisions of law not requiring the person to provide you with the details of their medical history stem from another regulation called The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA) that protects our medical information from getting into the hands of people that you do not approve of them having/knowing. Will I tell a doctor my medical issues--sure. He knows he will be held accountable for it and knows the penalties. Will I tell the loud-mouthed gossip queen bartender at my favorite dining hole? No. It's not any of her business and I don't want the entire neighborhood whispering about me every time they see me.
Not to even mention, that some disabilities are traumatic just for the person to talk about and they don't want to talk about it, especially to a stranger.

[david.garrett84]

My response to Suits and Dulceácido's disagreement:



Both make good points, but there can be no winners in this debate.

There are some users of service animals who behave pretty "appallingly", perhaps from a lack of socialization as kids due to their disability, perhaps due to the effects of their illnesses/PTSD etc.

Some of the vision-impaired users (but not completely blind ones) literally leave their dogs in the middle of walkways in cafés and other patrons have to step over them. Hot beverages and people walking around near animals just don't mix. That's just an example and the owners/users should know better.

On the other hand, challenging Suits' argument, you just have to grin and bear some inconveniences in life. Old people in particular talk to cashiers in stores for an eternity, making me late, including at airports. But they're old. Socially awkward people approach me and try to force small talk. But they're socially awkward.

I have a pretty foul temper when I'm pissed off and don't suffer fools, yet I make allowances based on perceived disability, level of social skill, age, and other factors. As long as someone isn't a full-fledged SJW cretin, mentally, socially and physically-challenged people will typically get my silence and patience.

Someone with a dog allergy is usually capable of walking away. I'd be more concerned about having a peanut allergy on a plane. Very few dog-allergic people are at serious risk of death, for instance, the opposite of nut allergies.

There would be far less of a problem if the peacock-using/hamster-flushing attention-seekers were not now emerging. Like any trend of abusing special privileges, legitimate or more legitimate beneficiaries of said privileges cop flak because of others gaming the system.

[BortimusPrime]

Now that I think about it I had a hamster as a kid, and I recall one salient point about handling a hamster. Mainly, that they constantly piss in your hand. And since they're a desert animal and evolved to preserve water, it's a very concentrated thick milky piss. I later had pet rats, and what was notable was that even though they pissed and shit more overall than a hamster, they also held it in when you were playing with them. So I can see having a rat as a support animal, but wouldn't a purse hamster just result in a purse filled with pungent urine and little hamster turds?

[C-Note]

Spirit Airlines forces Army veteran to flush service dog down the toilet

Quote:

Spirit Airlines is once again in hot water after an Army veteran alleged that flight attendants recently forced him to flush his service dog down the toilet in the airplane bathroom, sources confirmed today.

Travis Billingham, 29, of Little Rock, Ark., said that Spirit had no problem initially allowing his service dog, a golden retriever named Bubbles, onto the flight, but soon after takeoff flight attendants told him his companion would need to be flushed after the pup apparently bothered some other passengers.

“The flight attendants were telling me, ‘we’re so sorry, but your dog is barking at your fellow passengers and flushing him is required after this kind of disturbance, according to FAA guidelines,'” said Billingham. “I honestly thought it was a federal regulation so I went along with it.”

According to fellow passengers, Billingham was led to the rear of the plane with Bubbles, where he was told to put him into the toilet. “No, you idiot. Go head first. Cut off its oxygen source so it won’t struggle,” one flight attendant was overheard saying. “Push the damn thing. Harder goddamnit. I thought you people were strong in the military?”

The latest customer service fiasco for the company came just days after a college student said that Spirit representatives forced her to flush her emotional support hamster down the toilet rather than allow it on a flight. And last month, United Airlines banned a woman from flying with her emotional support peacock.

At least one of the Spirit flight attendants was aware of the previous incident with the hamster, which she referenced during Billingham’s ordeal:

“We had a girl flush her stupid hamster and she didn’t bitch nearly as much as you,” the flight attendant said, according to several passengers. “Thank you for your snowflake service is more like it.”

Sources say several passengers on Billingham’s flight expressed symptoms common with post-traumatic stress disorder afterward, citing the emotional ordeal of hearing a large dog being placed into an airplane commode at 35,000 feet.

[AneroidOcean]

(02-11-2018 12:01 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Secondly, ownership of a service animal requires responsibility. If I am in a place and someone says they have a dog allergy or the more likely (what I get often) is they have a dog phobia, I'm the one that moves away from them/trades seats with someone/wait for another flight, etc. I don't start quoting the provisions of the ADA. But, if a restaurant manager doesn't want me in a public establishment just because he doesn't like having a dog there, that's too bad for him. The idea is to prevent discrimination against the handicap. It's the same as any other anti-discrimination law. "We don't serve black people." Too, bad, you're going to get a federal lawsuit.

Ownership of ANY animal requires responsibility, not just a service animal. Sadly, I want to APPLAUD what you wrote despite it being what SHOULD be the minimum standard that ALL pet owners should hold themselves to, especially those with service animals.

As for the restaurant thing, frankly there are health reasons that a dog should not be in a restaurant, so I don't think animals should be in a restaurant for that reason alone. The problem is where the ADA tramples on the rest of our health/well being and your attitude of "that's too bad for him" which is becoming the norm as people abuse the ADA protections.

Unfortunately the ADA seems to have no requirement to hold people accountable who take advantage of the law in order to skirt the law. At least in practice nobody is ever going to get sued or put in jail for fraudulent activity and this whole "that's too bad for other people" attitude is what fucks the rest of us and requires us to deal with these selfish assholes who take advantage.

Frankly, there's zero reason you couldn't have an endorsement or a high-tech identification that you could show to businesses to prove you have a real need (without stating the specific need) and are authorized to go outside the norm.

I have no problem with going outside the norm, but the situation described in this article is becoming more the norm as opposed to the exception. It's fucked.

It's not the same as any other anti-discrimination law because black people (or whatever other class, I'm just using your example) don't pose health risks and on top of that if they behaved as poorly as this growing number of fake service animals you could have them removed, LEGALLY. Right now it's completely illegal to ask someone with a fake or real service animal to leave or to have the cops remove them if their animal is being a nuisance/causing problems. They'd get sued into the stone age.

Real disabilities shouldn't give you carte blanche and people should have next to no way to fake them. Right now it's basically "I say so" and we know we have a growin number of special snowflakes who think they deserve anything they want so this issue has been growing by leaps and bounds.

[debeguiled]

Can a nut allergy be a support animal?

[Dulceácido]

(02-12-2018 02:48 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(02-11-2018 12:01 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Secondly, ownership of a service animal requires responsibility. If I am in a place and someone says they have a dog allergy or the more likely (what I get often) is they have a dog phobia, I'm the one that moves away from them/trades seats with someone/wait for another flight, etc. I don't start quoting the provisions of the ADA. But, if a restaurant manager doesn't want me in a public establishment just because he doesn't like having a dog there, that's too bad for him. The idea is to prevent discrimination against the handicap. It's the same as any other anti-discrimination law. "We don't serve black people." Too, bad, you're going to get a federal lawsuit.

Ownership of ANY animal requires responsibility, not just a service animal. Sadly, I want to APPLAUD what you wrote despite it being what SHOULD be the minimum standard that ALL pet owners should hold themselves to, especially those with service animals.

As for the restaurant thing, frankly there are health reasons that a dog should not be in a restaurant, so I don't think animals should be in a restaurant for that reason alone. The problem is where the ADA tramples on the rest of our health/well being and your attitude of "that's too bad for him" which is becoming the norm as people abuse the ADA protections.

Unfortunately the ADA seems to have no requirement to hold people accountable who take advantage of the law in order to skirt the law. At least in practice nobody is ever going to get sued or put in jail for fraudulent activity and this whole "that's too bad for other people" attitude is what fucks the rest of us and requires us to deal with these selfish assholes who take advantage.

Frankly, there's zero reason you couldn't have an endorsement or a high-tech identification that you could show to businesses to prove you have a real need (without stating the specific need) and are authorized to go outside the norm.

I have no problem with going outside the norm, but the situation described in this article is becoming more the norm as opposed to the exception. It's fucked.

It's not the same as any other anti-discrimination law because black people (or whatever other class, I'm just using your example) don't pose health risks and on top of that if they behaved as poorly as this growing number of fake service animals you could have them removed, LEGALLY. Right now it's completely illegal to ask someone with a fake or real service animal to leave or to have the cops remove them if their animal is being a nuisance/causing problems. They'd get sued into the stone age.

Real disabilities shouldn't give you carte blanche and people should have next to no way to fake them. Right now it's basically "I say so" and we know we have a growin number of special snowflakes who think they deserve anything they want so this issue has been growing by leaps and bounds.

I agree with you on the premise, but you haven't read the protections nor the limitations of the ADA. They are extensive and explicit.

This will be the last post I'll make on this in this thread, unless someone freaks out and trashes me for no reason whatsoever, then I'll respond. But I'm a little weary of people commenting that don't really understand the implications in America, much less the people who aren't Americans, and have never lived live in America or any other first world western countries which almost all have similar laws.

If my dog bites someone, for example, the ADA does not give me carte blanche to remain in that institution. As a matter of fact, it would end in the revocation of the license.

It is exactly the same as any other anti-descrimination law. How many billions of families do you think have a family dog? It lives with them in their homes perfectly well and everything is fine. How many people do you know are racists and would say they'd prefer the company of a dog to a black/mexican, whatever? A bunch of idiots.

A service dog is well groomed and sociable. You don't have to come near it or it near you, if you object, but there are instances where it is unavoidable and it's exactly the same as you don't want to sit next to a gay person or black person, or a Chinese. Do you think my dog isn't more groomed and sanitary than the family pet? "Fido" begging at the table for scraps, which only gets a bath twice a year, jumping on people, trying to steal food from their plates, barking, approaching others even though it's unwanted? It's not like that.

I totally agree with the above user that sometimes people put their service animals in awkward situations, but that's because they're awkward and they don't understand the social situation, which is probably why they have the animal to begin with. "Oh, you're upset with the retarded child that allows his dog to sit in the path of servers in a restaurant?" Yeah, the child is retarded--he doesn't recognize that it's an inconvenience. What are your choices? Be equally retarded and complain to the manager or be a normal human being who is not retarded and just ask the person to relocate the dog?
"Dogs are filthy. They'r unsanitary. They this and they that." If you're a man over 30 with a reasonable notch count, I guarantee my dog isn't as nasty as some of the girls you've hooked up with. He gets a bath every 3 days, which is more than I can say for some of the trim members are banging in third world countries.

That having been said, all the focus seems to be on the ADA, as if it was only invented to protect service animals. In fact, that's a very small part of it, but dudes wanna keep blowing it up as if it was a thing invented solely for animal enthusiast. That is not the case.

Go look at it. If you're not from a western country, don't expect to understand the provisions. If you are, then read about the broader context. Service animals are a very small part of it.

Dogs bark. That's what they do. What would you say to a child with Tourettes? "You have Tourettes, so you and your family can't eat here? It's disturbing to other patrons."

I'm a huge libertarian and I completely understand your side of the debate, but I'm also telling you that it doesn't work that way anymore. No one is gonna force you off the bus because you're black--actually more likely you'll be forced off a city bus for being white.

Apartment buildings: No Pets Allowed.

"Okay, I'm a fucking disabled veteran and I have a service animal and this is the only place I can afford. So, that's not fair." (Not the situation I'm in, I own my home, just saying for example). It's exactly the same as saying any other discriminatory bullshit you could imagine.

Public Transport: No Pets Allowed

"You with your seeing eye dog can't get on."


It's to prevent discrimination. Nothing more. Doesn't give you a carte blanche to do shit. If your animal fucks up in a public place or is apparently diseased or not taken care for, the manager can ask you to leave and you can leave on your own or you can wait for the police who will make you wish you hadn't.

[Kona]

Dulceacido, I'd like to let you know that I support your service dogging. There's way bigger problems in the world then worrying about some blind fucker's dog in a restaurant.

I do take issue with this statement:

(02-12-2018 03:40 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

How many people do you know are racists and would say they'd prefer the company of a dog to a black/mexican, whatever? A bunch of idiots.

You seem to forget that white people are also subjected to harsh racism on a daily basis. Statements like these trivialise the white man's struggle.

Aloha!

[Dulceácido]

(02-12-2018 03:49 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Dulceacido, I'd like to let you know that I support your service dogging. There's way bigger problems in the world then worrying about some blind fucker's dog in a restaurant.

I do take issue with this statement:

(02-12-2018 03:40 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

How many people do you know are racists and would say they'd prefer the company of a dog to a black/mexican, whatever? A bunch of idiots.

You seem to forget that white people are also subjected to harsh racism on a daily basis. Statements like these trivialise the white man's struggle.

Aloha!

Completely agree, Brutha. You're balls deep in multiculturalism, as am I, so to speak, although different cultures.

I have this all the time. I live in a southern US community that is 60% black. Not many people have dealt with white suppression as I have.

Supposedly, the entire US is 20% black and 10% other races. That may be true in the midwestern states, but in the southern US, whites are a clear minority.

Where I was raised, the diversity is even more significant. 80% black, 20% "other."

In High School I met a guy from Indiana that transferred here. He had only seen blacks or hispanics "at the mall." He was completely clueless. It helped him because he was brilliant at basketball, in spite of being much shorter than his new contemporaries (Indiana is famous for basketball, as you certainly know--Larry Bird), most of my friends were black and we made it out just fine.
We were subjected to harsh racism, but it didn't matter. I was friends with most of the "bigwigs" in the black/gang communities.

No big deal for me; I grew up with these guys. lol I actually tried to date his (Indiana guy) younger sister, but she didn't succumb, "because I was white." Ironically, she ended up marrying a very well-established white dude, after dating all blacks in High School. Something that I was not.

Kinda weird how all these thread derailments end up with race. It has just never been that big of deal for me. I have friends of all races that I could call at a moment's notice and they would be there for me.

Admittedly, most of my newer white friends would shiver at the thought of colluding with a black guy, but it's pure bullshit. All the white guys and black guys I grew up with would not give a moment's hesitation to helping me out of a conundrum.

[Foolsgo1d]

A member few years back asked by getting a Zebra because bitches love Zebras. Would he get one onboard?

[PapayaTapper]

Im all for the ADA. The only beef I used* to have with it is having to drive by all those juicy front row but wasted handicap parking spaces when I go to Home Depot. There's like 20. I dont know who came up with the formula for the requirements per number of spaces in the lot but I'v never ever as far as I can remember seen more than two cars parked there at one time.



This probably belongs in the Haters thread

*I now just park in front of and enter through the tool rental door. Nobody ever says shit about it. Youre welcome