I'm 20 years old I'm trying to figure out when to lose my virginity. I had a psychotic episode when I was 16 and it cost me a year on school so I had to go to a community college which is where I am. I am transferring this fall (I'll be turning 21) so I want to know when I should lose my virginity. I want to be reasonably financially stable and independent from parents. (I'm Indian)
Still a virgin
I forgot to mention I'm 5'11 and in decent shape (135 pounds).
Bro I too am 5'11 and 150 pounds, even I get called scrawny sometimes by my friends, and even girlfriends.
5'11 135 pounds is a walking skeleton, hit the gym ASAP.
I was very skinny like you too when I was 20, around 130-135. I got 0 attention. The minute I hit 150-55, started seeing a few stares or two. I worked out last year like crazy and hit 165, I literally went from zero to hero.
Aim for 165 pounds with muscle.
Now I'm lazy again and back at 150, feels bad.
5'11 135 pounds is a walking skeleton, hit the gym ASAP.
I was very skinny like you too when I was 20, around 130-135. I got 0 attention. The minute I hit 150-55, started seeing a few stares or two. I worked out last year like crazy and hit 165, I literally went from zero to hero.
Aim for 165 pounds with muscle.
Now I'm lazy again and back at 150, feels bad.
Think of it in terms of sales.
Bad product, bad salesman = no sales
Good product, bad sales = no leads, take what you can get, hopefully a good customer or two.
Bad product, good sales = likely multiple leads, but not the best customers
Good product, good sales = fill in the blank...
Learn to talk to girls and guys in different environments. Social skills.
Game is advanced social skills. If your foundation is weak, so will be what you b build on top. (That doesn't mean stop trying.)
Work on yourself in the meantime...gym is your fastest way to increase your value. Hustle hard in school as that pays off over time.
Talk to girls. Learn to flirt. Learn to get phone numbers. Get flaked on. Get a girl on a date. Learn to kino and get a kiss. Learn to bounce across multiple locations on your dates. Learn to escalate and round the bases. You'll lose your virginity as a result.
It's a process of approximation.
Short term, you can double down on game and learn to get laid, if that's a chip on your shoulder. (talk to girls all over your campus, especially if you're transferring.)
Long term, you need to work on your value.
Find a balance you're happy with.
Bad product, bad salesman = no sales
Good product, bad sales = no leads, take what you can get, hopefully a good customer or two.
Bad product, good sales = likely multiple leads, but not the best customers
Good product, good sales = fill in the blank...
Learn to talk to girls and guys in different environments. Social skills.
Game is advanced social skills. If your foundation is weak, so will be what you b build on top. (That doesn't mean stop trying.)
Work on yourself in the meantime...gym is your fastest way to increase your value. Hustle hard in school as that pays off over time.
Talk to girls. Learn to flirt. Learn to get phone numbers. Get flaked on. Get a girl on a date. Learn to kino and get a kiss. Learn to bounce across multiple locations on your dates. Learn to escalate and round the bases. You'll lose your virginity as a result.
It's a process of approximation.
Short term, you can double down on game and learn to get laid, if that's a chip on your shoulder. (talk to girls all over your campus, especially if you're transferring.)
Long term, you need to work on your value.
Find a balance you're happy with.
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You sound as if you're a bit frustrated. What do you mean by still a virgin ? I don't think 20 is too old to be a virgin. Don't worry too much about it, girls will notice if you do. Think about sex as masturbation but worse...imagine having to masturbate without using your hands. Once you put a rubber on it it's not even fun anymore.
Get yourself a copy of Mystery Method, Bang and maybe something like Magic Bullets. Study them inside out, take notes and complement the study sessions with actual pick-up videos.
Prepare a few openings, a couple routines and a solid story that will help you introduce yourself to girls and then hit the bars and clubs.
Go to places where students hang out and approach every single girl no matter how ugly. Use alcohol to lower your inhibitions if you're too shy or scared. Unless you look like a troll you should be able to lose your virginity in less than a month. The majority of guys your age are clueless about game and girls are easier than ever.
Get yourself a copy of Mystery Method, Bang and maybe something like Magic Bullets. Study them inside out, take notes and complement the study sessions with actual pick-up videos.
Prepare a few openings, a couple routines and a solid story that will help you introduce yourself to girls and then hit the bars and clubs.
Go to places where students hang out and approach every single girl no matter how ugly. Use alcohol to lower your inhibitions if you're too shy or scared. Unless you look like a troll you should be able to lose your virginity in less than a month. The majority of guys your age are clueless about game and girls are easier than ever.
Bro, you still have plenty of time in your life and girls should not be your top priority. Try to focus on your studies, then career, and also getting in good shape
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When I was your young age I was still like the guys in the clip, completely undecided about life, immature, and girls were not even on my mind...
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When I was your young age I was still like the guys in the clip, completely undecided about life, immature, and girls were not even on my mind...
At 5'11" and 135 you look like gaunt death with a scythe.
Eat meat.
A lot of it.
Get to 165 at least.
Forget about working out, you can't burn any calories, you're close to dead, man, if I saw you on the street, depending on your skin's health, I might suspect you're suffering from AIDS or some other serious affliction.
Eat meat.
A lot of it.
Get to 165 at least.
Forget about working out, you can't burn any calories, you're close to dead, man, if I saw you on the street, depending on your skin's health, I might suspect you're suffering from AIDS or some other serious affliction.
Quote: (02-06-2018 08:01 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:
At 5'11" and 135 you look like gaunt death with a scythe.
Eat meat.
A lot of it.
Get to 165 at least.
Forget about working out, you can't burn any calories, you're close to dead, man, if I saw you on the street, depending on your skin's health, I might suspect you're suffering from AIDS or some other serious affliction.
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This
I mean Spanaird is exagerating a little bit, but 135lbs on 5''11 is no way decent shape.
You need to bulk man.
TRT injections will be amazing for you since you are skinny.
Quote: (02-06-2018 04:22 PM)advik78 Wrote:
I'm 20 years old I'm trying to figure out when to lose my virginity. I had a psychotic episode when I was 16 and it cost me a year on school so I had to go to a community college which is where I am. I am transferring this fall (I'll be turning 21) so I want to know when I should lose my virginity. I want to be reasonably financially stable and independent from parents. (I'm Indian)
What you need to do is just get fucked. That simple.
If you have to settle for an ugly chick then so be it, but game is a lot like a snowball rolling downhill. Nobody starts off banging super models.
Serious note though, you should
1. Hit the gym and try to reach 180 lbs while still maintaining a toned figure
2. Cut caffeine and porn out of your lifestyle
3. Become extremely sociable, talk to everyone not just girls
Richard "Dick" Johnson
The thing is I'm religious and can't eat meat (yeah I know) but it's one of my customs and I want to follow it. Any other way I can bulk up?
You bulk up by training whilst eating to your utmost.
I bulked up considerably over just a few months as a vegan in my mid twenties.
Consider the example of Punjabi wrestlers who are all vegetarian.
Guy I know in his late 30 s just bulked up eating only fruit.. Only fruit. At your age? . Bulking is more than doable.
Check out the GOMAD diet for a crash course example but bear in mind that a sustainable long term approach built up over time will work best for you. In terms of diet and exercise at your age really anything you apply yourself to over a long period will work.
You just have to do it.
Where most fall down is in second guessing what they are doing to the point where they stop doing it consistently and surprise, surprise.. They don't get any results.
It really is that simple.
Plenty of grounds for optimism here.
I bulked up considerably over just a few months as a vegan in my mid twenties.
Consider the example of Punjabi wrestlers who are all vegetarian.
Guy I know in his late 30 s just bulked up eating only fruit.. Only fruit. At your age? . Bulking is more than doable.
Check out the GOMAD diet for a crash course example but bear in mind that a sustainable long term approach built up over time will work best for you. In terms of diet and exercise at your age really anything you apply yourself to over a long period will work.
You just have to do it.
Where most fall down is in second guessing what they are doing to the point where they stop doing it consistently and surprise, surprise.. They don't get any results.
It really is that simple.
Plenty of grounds for optimism here.
Quote: (02-07-2018 01:41 AM)advik78 Wrote:
The thing is I'm religious and can't eat meat (yeah I know) but it's one of my customs and I want to follow it. Any other way I can bulk up?
If you start lifting your body will want you to eat more. Just do it then. Can you eat eggs? If yes, then go for 4 every morning. You don't even need some protein powders etc. I hated it and still got some gains (but i suppose it's easier with them). There are even some vegan bodybuilders, and they should have some info on their diet to promote their lifestyle, check it out.
And don't listen to the guy telling you to just eat and not work out. If you're very ectomorphic it won't get you nowhere. I was also skinny and only after I stated lifting I gained some mass (10 kg in half of a year, that is 22 pounds) which is decent I think, but I could do better.
PS. And don't worry about being virgin at 20 - I really know that this is easier said than done and you will have serious doubts about your performance etc. If you start working hard now, you will be on good path. Maybe your first girl will notice, but it's no big deal. Read some "Sex god method" (but warning, some of this stuff is borderline creepy and you don't have to follow everything) and you will be good.
Quote: (02-07-2018 01:41 AM)advik78 Wrote:
The thing is I'm religious and can't eat meat (yeah I know) but it's one of my customs and I want to follow it. Any other way I can bulk up?
There are plenty of vegetarian bodybuilders out there, not saying you have to become a meathead but study how they bulk up without meat.
Richard "Dick" Johnson
20 virgin you're fine.
Bulk up (good news is you aren't fat...your height and weight means you can put on muscle). Lifting will make you feel way more confident.
Good gravy, don't do TRT as one post said.
Talk to women. All women. Be fun and friendly. It's not that you don't know how to be comfortable with people. It's that you don't know how to be comfortable around attractive women. Do dumb things until you're comfortable around them.
Don't identify as the guy who had a psychotic episode the way you do. You mentioned it, so it sounds it still causes you anxiety or insecurity, which makes sense. You probably had to deal with some shit at 16, and maybe you're just more honest about your anxieties than others. It probably gives you some experience and wisdom having gone through it. Use it. Don't be afraid of it. Hell, if you talk about is as "Yeah, it was a tough time, just some shit going on at the time made me break a bit and figure things out"...might even be attractive to some chicks. At the very least, it's brutally honest.
Since I just posted about jujitsu changing my life, go start combat training. This isn't a must, but it's good for ya, if you have the time and money.
Or if you can, skip all those things and go talk to chicks. That's the obvious short term solution.
Bulk up (good news is you aren't fat...your height and weight means you can put on muscle). Lifting will make you feel way more confident.
Good gravy, don't do TRT as one post said.
Talk to women. All women. Be fun and friendly. It's not that you don't know how to be comfortable with people. It's that you don't know how to be comfortable around attractive women. Do dumb things until you're comfortable around them.
Don't identify as the guy who had a psychotic episode the way you do. You mentioned it, so it sounds it still causes you anxiety or insecurity, which makes sense. You probably had to deal with some shit at 16, and maybe you're just more honest about your anxieties than others. It probably gives you some experience and wisdom having gone through it. Use it. Don't be afraid of it. Hell, if you talk about is as "Yeah, it was a tough time, just some shit going on at the time made me break a bit and figure things out"...might even be attractive to some chicks. At the very least, it's brutally honest.
Since I just posted about jujitsu changing my life, go start combat training. This isn't a must, but it's good for ya, if you have the time and money.
Or if you can, skip all those things and go talk to chicks. That's the obvious short term solution.
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So you're complaining about being a virgin but don't want to eat beef because you are a practicing hindu. But somethings not right here, adultery is strictly forbidden in hinduism, you want to get laid but while chasing pussy you don't want to eat beef?
Anywho protein powder, salmon,chicken there are plenty of alternatives.
Anywho protein powder, salmon,chicken there are plenty of alternatives.
Quote: (02-06-2018 04:22 PM)advik78 Wrote:
I'm 20 years old I'm trying to figure out when to lose my virginity. I had a psychotic episode when I was 16 and it cost me a year on school so I had to go to a community college which is where I am. I am transferring this fall (I'll be turning 21) so I want to know when I should lose my virginity. I want to be reasonably financially stable and independent from parents. (I'm Indian)
I was literally in your shoes about three years ago when I joined the Forum. As state above, hustle your ass of. Focus on career/money/health right now, game in your late twenties. However, do an approach a day. Don't the approach/notes taken after the approach take more than 1 hours of your time a day. Don't let a date/bang take more than 4 hours of your time a day. Limit yourself to one date a week to pursue a bang. This will put you head and shoulders with your people skills than your peers when in comes to recruiting/interviews (the art of ramble). Join a Frat to increase your succes rate 10x. If its one thing I regret the most is not joining a Frat in Undergrad and having a sorority pussy buffer every Thursday Night.
Growth Over Everything Else.
Quote: (02-08-2018 12:15 PM)Blancpain Wrote:
So you're complaining about being a virgin but don't want to eat beef because you are a practicing hindu. But somethings not right here, adultery is strictly forbidden in hinduism, you want to get laid but while chasing pussy you don't want to eat beef?
Anywho protein powder, salmon,chicken there are plenty of alternatives.
I'm not super religious it's just the traditions are hard to get rid of you know what I mean?
You have no problems, Bro.
20 yo virgin, no problem. I lost my virginity to the first girl that would come along. Just so happens, I lucked out and she did not disappoint, but I always think back on that time and think how easily I could've messed that up. Hold out. Value yourself.
In other news, yeah, Dude, you're insanely skinny. Don't do TRT at 20 yo, that's fucking ridiculous. You don't need it. Can you do a protein shake? Whey protein is meat, essentially, but you can do soy protein, right? You need to bulk up. At that height, I'd say you need to put on 30-40 lbs.
20 yo virgin, no problem. I lost my virginity to the first girl that would come along. Just so happens, I lucked out and she did not disappoint, but I always think back on that time and think how easily I could've messed that up. Hold out. Value yourself.
In other news, yeah, Dude, you're insanely skinny. Don't do TRT at 20 yo, that's fucking ridiculous. You don't need it. Can you do a protein shake? Whey protein is meat, essentially, but you can do soy protein, right? You need to bulk up. At that height, I'd say you need to put on 30-40 lbs.
Eggs are better protein than meat, so you can eat fish and eggs instead of beef.
But.... I don't know what muscles matter here, he is asking how to deal with his virginity, not asking into about body building. Yeah muscles may help but I don't think this is the main problem. I would say success with girls is 90% mental (some people call it inner game), for sure not muscles! I have some ugly friends with belly fat who get a lot of girls and I have friends who are handsome like fashion model but then are totally incapable with women.... so physical appearance cont for you not for them.... I think here the main problem may be a kind of self insecurity linked with virginity...
Anyway you have a bunch of choices... forse example:
1) don't care about virginity, don't think that a 18-20 years old girl is a super sex skilled, happened to me to find such young girls that they weren't able to do a blowjob, is normal.... are first experiences for them too, especially at college... You can find also a 30 years old woman who is not so skilled... so chill out.... and even if you find a super skilled high sex drive woman (the type that would make tired Rocco Siffredi) she won't judge you for the first time you have sex with her, but at least how you would learn to give her pleasure....
2) If it is really a psychological problem your virginity and you want to loose it at all cost, think to pay a slut.... is not the nicest way but you will solve fast the problem. Rocco Siffredi did the same... and he doesn't have any troubles with girls.....
3) the only things that you may be worried about if you aren't ready could be a MMA match (if you aren't ready you could REALLY get hurt) maybe war.... or flying a plane...... sex is just something pleasurable especially first experiences..... so chill out and get chicks laid and enjoy the moment while you are playing with their vagina!
PS when I was young I always had a super looking good physical aspect, at 13 years old I was 1,80 m for example with a great body, (now I'm 1,85 m) I looked like an Abercrombie model when I was 16-17. Lot of muscles too, because of sport and have a super good genetic can still gain muscles without so much effort..... but at that time I was a total disaster with women although I was also able to get their attention.... I can still remember the girls wanted to be approached from me.... now is so funny to think.... so physical appearance count up to a certain point.... In that period I had a friend who was (and he is still) ugly and a little fat too for sure not in shape! he was able to get any women he wanted.... so people who talk about muscles have still to learn.....
But.... I don't know what muscles matter here, he is asking how to deal with his virginity, not asking into about body building. Yeah muscles may help but I don't think this is the main problem. I would say success with girls is 90% mental (some people call it inner game), for sure not muscles! I have some ugly friends with belly fat who get a lot of girls and I have friends who are handsome like fashion model but then are totally incapable with women.... so physical appearance cont for you not for them.... I think here the main problem may be a kind of self insecurity linked with virginity...
Anyway you have a bunch of choices... forse example:
1) don't care about virginity, don't think that a 18-20 years old girl is a super sex skilled, happened to me to find such young girls that they weren't able to do a blowjob, is normal.... are first experiences for them too, especially at college... You can find also a 30 years old woman who is not so skilled... so chill out.... and even if you find a super skilled high sex drive woman (the type that would make tired Rocco Siffredi) she won't judge you for the first time you have sex with her, but at least how you would learn to give her pleasure....
2) If it is really a psychological problem your virginity and you want to loose it at all cost, think to pay a slut.... is not the nicest way but you will solve fast the problem. Rocco Siffredi did the same... and he doesn't have any troubles with girls.....
3) the only things that you may be worried about if you aren't ready could be a MMA match (if you aren't ready you could REALLY get hurt) maybe war.... or flying a plane...... sex is just something pleasurable especially first experiences..... so chill out and get chicks laid and enjoy the moment while you are playing with their vagina!
PS when I was young I always had a super looking good physical aspect, at 13 years old I was 1,80 m for example with a great body, (now I'm 1,85 m) I looked like an Abercrombie model when I was 16-17. Lot of muscles too, because of sport and have a super good genetic can still gain muscles without so much effort..... but at that time I was a total disaster with women although I was also able to get their attention.... I can still remember the girls wanted to be approached from me.... now is so funny to think.... so physical appearance count up to a certain point.... In that period I had a friend who was (and he is still) ugly and a little fat too for sure not in shape! he was able to get any women he wanted.... so people who talk about muscles have still to learn.....
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