[Zerdame]

This thread has the potential to be the next RVF urban legend, right up there with our RVF Templar Knight Sir Little Dark. Grow it people, grow it well.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-17-2018 08:16 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  

As the country is getting more and more Western I predict in the next 5 years Turkey would be the sweet spot between conservative, feminine and women westernised enough for ONS. Similar to what Poland once was for Roosh in 2011.

Genetically Turkish women are diverse with stunning exotic honey glazed eyes. There is a lot of Slavic mix due to their occupation of the Balkans and a lot of mix with Bulgarians who settled in Turkey generations before so one can still find blondes and slavic looking women time to time along with lush tanned skin.

I would thank OP for bringing Turkey back on my radar. It's time for Napoleon to turn in to the Turkish Raider.

Very funny - Turkey becoming as Western as Poland.

Turkey is about to turn Caliphate and join the WWIII Islam vs Everyone else on the losing side of the Caliphate.

Second - the Slavs did not "settle there". Slavery was up and running until the 1950s - both male and female. The men were mostly robbed children who fought as soldiers and they are making up the genetic mix - albeit only at a certain part of the population.

The country is doing well economically and there are many Western-minded folk, but the clouds of Islamic doom are on the horizon. If you want the global Jihad and have Arab-like Burkas in the future, then you may be happy to join the future Caliphate of Turkey - before it becomes an irradiated parking lot in WWIII.

Also - I would not count Turks as Europeans for the simple reason that they are Muslim - they are anti-European despite the European blood infusion.

[Transsimian]

(01-18-2018 07:30 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

This thread has the potential to be the next RVF urban legend, right up there with our RVF Templar Knight Sir Little Dark. Grow it people, grow it well.

Can you buy a zebra in Turkey?

[Blancpain]

(01-18-2018 04:08 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 08:16 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  

As the country is getting more and more Western I predict in the next 5 years Turkey would be the sweet spot between conservative, feminine and women westernised enough for ONS. Similar to what Poland once was for Roosh in 2011.

Genetically Turkish women are diverse with stunning exotic honey glazed eyes. There is a lot of Slavic mix due to their occupation of the Balkans and a lot of mix with Bulgarians who settled in Turkey generations before so one can still find blondes and slavic looking women time to time along with lush tanned skin.

I would thank OP for bringing Turkey back on my radar. It's time for Napoleon to turn in to the Turkish Raider.

Very funny - Turkey becoming as Western as Poland.

Turkey is about to turn Caliphate and join the WWIII Islam vs Everyone else on the losing side of the Caliphate.

Second - the Slavs did not "settle there". Slavery was up and running until the 1950s - both male and female. The men were mostly robbed children who fought as soldiers and they are making up the genetic mix - albeit only at a certain part of the population.

The country is doing well economically and there are many Western-minded folk, but the clouds of Islamic doom are on the horizon. If you want the global Jihad and have Arab-like Burkas in the future, then you may be happy to join the future Caliphate of Turkey - before it becomes an irradiated parking lot in WWIII.

Also - I would not count Turks as Europeans for the simple reason that they are Muslim - they are anti-European despite the European blood infusion.

Define western values? Right now there is a huge hype about LGBT shit.
Ottoman Empire decriminalized homosexuality in 1860's

Ataturk gave the women right to vote in 1923

Oh and when the whole world was racist towards Africans





You cannot put Turkey in the same boat as the Wahabist shit. Yes we are muslim, but that wont prevent us from embracing western values.

[Teep]

I've never met a Turk I liked. Fucked a couple Turkish broads though. They told me Western men were better lovers.

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(01-18-2018 04:38 PM)Blancpain Wrote:  

Define western values? Right now there is a huge hype about LGBT shit.
Ottoman Empire decriminalized homosexuality in 1860's
Ataturk gave the women right to vote in 1923
Oh and when the whole world was racist towards Africans





You cannot put Turkey in the same boat as the Wahabist shit. Yes we are muslim, but that wont prevent us from embracing western values.

"The State Dep Advised Turks to take African Americans from the back door. Turks Refused" ... In this time period African American Activists who were a strong and independent movement were not used to "taking it from the backdoor"... but after 60 years of being the prison bitches of White Liberalism... I'm sure BLM activists today would enjoy it backdoor.

Thats the thing about generational drift. Most Islamic nations were more liberal in 1860. Hell, in 1860 the most religious people in the USA lived in northern states, while the south was both politically and religiously liberal. Turkey has changed.

I would not consider Turkey to be some super Alpha culture. From what I hear a significant portion of the male population loses their virginity to chickens! I suppose sheep shagging is for betas?

[Sombro]

Wasn't Turkey pretty much given Sausage Party Nation status by Roosh?

[Biologist]

You say Turkey is such a great country, yet nobody around the world wants to migrate to Turkey.

If Turkey was really such a successful country, why do so many Turks want to migrate to Europe or North America?

[Bienvenuto]

There's a divide between the Turkish diaspora in the US and Canada who, in their own view, are by necessity the better educated and qualified in order to successfully negotiate a move to North America and the Turks of Europe who they see as dumb country cousins.

The Turks of North America voted against Erdogan's constitutional changes and the Turks of Europe, who tend to live more in enclaves, voted for them.

Both the Turks of North America and the middle class Turks I know in Turkey cringe a lot at the thought of Erdogan, (who they view as more Clinton - corrupt, criminal, dishonest - than Trump) and at the thought of his alliance with 'traditional Islamic values'.

How Alpha that makes Turkey's "lifestyle, culture and civilisation" is open to question.

[Off The Reservation]

Dirty shithole.

OP instead of regurgitating wikipedia, you should try actual travel.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I won't even comment on the picture from the 1950s - a time where there were still actual slaves living in Turkey. The only "positive" think for SJWs is that they were not black.

And again I see Turks deriding the West as if the only thing it is are a bunch of liberal SJWs, colonialism, white guilt and crap.

Attaturk would have been shot by Erdogan in a cellar - also vice versa if Attaturk came to power.

Islam is Islam - full Islam is ISIS, 80% is Saudi Arabia, Turkey is at 40% and that is why they ruled over their more strict and more inbred Arabs who took Islam more seriously. But Islam is a shitshow that will hold back Turkey unless a truly liberal shitlord country conquers them and converts them forcibly.

And I have no beef with the Ottoman Turks - like many Middle Easterners they are warm, hospitable, family oriented, patriarchal. I studied with high IQ liberal Turks and worked with Turkish pretty Westernized girls.

But the country is re-islamizing and Attaturk is actually being dismantled. Posting old pictures is about as useful as posting pics of liberal Persia and Afghanistan of the 1970s. Turkey is going that same way.

And please don't use Wahhabism - that is just more adherence to the same bloody Islam. I have read the Quran, I have read it chronologically because that is how it must be read due to the principle of abrogation, I read the Sira - the biography of Mohammed and scores of the Hadiths. I looked into the 4 main schools of Islam. The more I learned the worse it got.

Islam is the worst ideology on earth aside from the excesses of Talmudic Judaism. But it permeates the common people even more than Judaism does with theirs.

Fortunately most Muslims are far better people than their religion or all Muslim countries would look like ISIS. But it's a negative ideology and only because Turkey has the lowest inbreeding rate of all Muslim countries at 25% does not mean that it is so great - honor killings and sexual assaults/rapes are still beyond the norm.

And finally - no one dreams of moving and living to Turkey from any of the Western country.

I am also a great fan of Akif Pirincci - a genius level writer and second generation Turkish immigrant who is more Western and German than most young native Germans there. He understands the values and strength of the West vs even his ancestral home of Turkey.

[911]

(01-18-2018 06:59 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 09:06 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

I'd like to know where persian, turkish, indian women go on holiday to meet a handsome european such as myself.

It's not Turkey that's for sure.

Try Istanbul.
You'd be surprised.

The obvious picks for westernized Muslim/Indian girls are London and Paris though.

My Turkish flag was from Toronto. Lots of turkish girls in London too, but not too many in Paris. Same for Persians, bigger numbers in the US for them, but the ones in Southern California whose parents immigrated in the 70s aren't as solid, taking on the worst aspects of east and west.

I spend a few months in Istanbul, dated an eat-pray-love woman from Texas, and before that, on my first trip there an American grad student, low-hanging fruit. I came across nice, good-looking local girls towards the end of my second trip through social game, I think that's the way to go about it there.

The country is nice, beautiful scenery and like the rest of southern Europe, superb food. Couldn't get enough of the street and restaurant fare.

(01-17-2018 09:23 AM)Blancpain Wrote:  

I am Turkish and OP is full of shit.
Yes there is Machoism ingrained into the Turkish culture but we too have unfortunately swallowed the SJW pill.
The new generation white collar Turkish milllenial is not that different from your average cuck in the west.

When Turkish girls go to Erasmus they become one of the biggest sluts since they are not afraid of getting slut shamed..
The new generation of guys are very very beta, but this is actually an advantage for the ones who have game, it makes it easier for us to swoop the sluts.

The most alpha culture in the developed world is probably in Spain, there is still some trace of Francos spirit.

That's a bit surprising, the Turkish guys I've known were pretty masculine dudes.

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(01-19-2018 03:58 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Islam is Islam - full Islam is ISIS, 80% is Saudi Arabia, Turkey is at 40% and that is why they ruled over their more strict and more inbred Arabs who took Islam more seriously. But Islam is a shitshow that will hold back Turkey unless a truly liberal shitlord country conquers them and converts them forcibly.

And please don't use Wahhabism - that is just more adherence to the same bloody Islam. I have read the Quran, I have read it chronologically because that is how it must be read due to the principle of abrogation, I read the Sira - the biography of Mohammed and scores of the Hadiths. I looked into the 4 main schools of Islam. The more I learned the worse it got.

Islam is the worst ideology on earth aside from the excesses of Talmudic Judaism. But it permeates the common people even more than Judaism does with theirs.

I also read the Quran, and the Hadiths... in English not Arabic though. I was very seriously considering a conversion before I started. When I finished I just felt like it was bullshit. I don't see how any intelligent person can rationalize that much. Muhammad pretty much made the thing up as he went and catered "God's Word" to his current needs. It really feels like a belief system designed to bind together an empire, create a war machine, and cement Arab Imperialism. I'm really glad someone else got the same feeling!

Also... just because I'm a human genetics major and a bit of a history geek. I believe the Turco ethnic group is originally from the ancient Transoxiana area, which was eastern Persia. Today it's Tajikstan and Afghanistan along with some parts of other countries.

Here is an example of what the women look like.







Oh... and one post wall.

[Constitution45]

Coming from multicultural Britain where the world and their dog has set up shop, I am still very impressed with Turkish culture. It is genuinely hard to put a finger on whether they are Western, Arabic or a cross between both. I imagine there is a very large cross section of the country, as some Turks I would easily pass off as being slavic, others as South European. Then again there are Turks who look like they are from the heart of the middle east.

Russia receives a lot of praise, but in reality the country has undergone deconstruction that the West has over the last century. It is the reason why I find that country so fascinating, they underwent massive cultural change since the revolution and still vehment over it. Ironically enough the younger urban generation are starting to forget and go back to those principles

As for the future of Turkey, I don't know; I believe like everywhere else, they will begin to embrace the more harmful side of Western ideals. As Napoleon mentioned earlier on, a lot of Turkish girls are willing to sleep with strange foreign men when they are overseas or on holiday. But this is the same universally, I knew of Afghan girls who are meeting up with white and black men in London or Birmingham and hooking up.

As for the country, I believe Erdogan will try to push the change that is coming in the same way Putin did this. He probably has more of a backing though due to his Islamic background. What does the Orthodox world really have in terms of funding and independence. The Chinese ? Islamic world ? Serbia, Ukraine aha.

[GlobalMan]

(01-17-2018 07:07 AM)Tyrion Wrote:  

never been to Turkey

Wow, these are exactly the types of insight on a country I'm looking for!

If you find time during your busy virtual travel schedule you should talk to AustraliaSucks about the great and easy investment opportunities in Chile!

[Tactician]

I thought the few pictures of the landscape were really nice.

[CynicalContrarian]

Is this thread a 'turkey'?

American's eat turkey's for Thanksgiving.

[blck]

(01-17-2018 06:44 AM)Tyrion Wrote:  

OP praising the Great Turkish Empire

You might think he is, in fact, turkish and advocating for his country to enter the euro zone but...

(01-17-2018 07:07 AM)Tyrion Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:54 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

Let me guess.

You're Turkish?

No. Not Turkish, never been to Turkey.

I think I know who OP is...

[Tyrion]

(01-19-2018 12:59 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

You say Turkey is such a great country, yet nobody around the world wants to migrate to Turkey.

If Turkey was really such a successful country, why do so many Turks want to migrate to Europe or North America?

Did you even read the thread?

What's up with betas running on their hampsters jumping up and down without even comprehending the point being made.

Thread is about having the fittest social culture in industrialized world, it has nothing to do with migration patterns and so on (which are related mostly to economics+policies of host countries).

Here's a hint for you: Turkey does not have the mass migration policy that of USA or Germany. Because unlike Western nations, Turkey do not face massive shortage of labor....atleast as of now.

Here's another hint for slow nerds like you: ALL of us would agree that Poland's nationalist stance is better than Germany's open border stance vis-a-vis Syrian refugees. But wait, why do most people want to get to Germany and don't give a shit about Eastern Europe? Oh must be that Eastern Europe is shitty cultureless place...Lol.

Yeah homie..."economics+policies of host nation"=migration pull.

It has very little, if any at all, to do with social culture of a particular place.

[hv123]

Turkey isn't a high income country

[Tyrion]

(01-17-2018 08:16 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  

I suspect OP would be disappointed and mighty angry to know the amount of highly desirable Turkish birds that wear skirts on heels while on holiday that have consumed alcohol with yours truly (a man of colour) and engaged in fornication out of wedlock.

If you want a place where women dress conservatively, do not drink, do not have sex out of wedlock and where Islam has major influence then Kuwait or Saudi Arabia got Turkey beat on all counts. Why compare those numbers with Europe and Christianity when they are in a complete different state of evolution ? The gulf states blows Turkey out on finances and money making opportunities too.

I could write a Datasheet on why turkey is the next Poosay Paradise but for reasons exactly opposite to the ones mentioned by OP. There are 2 kinds of Turkish people, one who supports Erdogan and one who longs for the reincarnation of Ataturk. All of the modern European minded turkish women falls in the second category and they cover up their true personalities to blend in and be socially acceptable as much as possible but then while on internships and office trips across Europe let their true colours out.

Turkish women are some of the most obedient, feminine, eager to please women in Europe let down by their callous men who chase western obese tourists with immense thirst. Turkish men want to marry a virgin but lose interest and respect in their girlfriends if they can succesfully engage them in premarital sex. It's a typical I don't wanna be a member of any club that would have me as a member syndrome. When Turkish men do have sex with their girlfriends they make zero effort to sexually please them or make it mutually exciting. So if you do have sex with a Turkish girl you will be a sex god to her and she will cook/clean for you. Their expectations have been set extremely low and we can thank the Turkish men and society for it.

As the country is getting more and more Western I predict in the next 5 years Turkey would be the sweet spot between conservative, feminine and women westernised enough for ONS. Similar to what Poland once was for Roosh in 2011.

Genetically Turkish women are diverse with stunning exotic honey glazed eyes. There is a lot of Slavic mix due to their occupation of the Balkans and a lot of mix with Bulgarians who settled in Turkey generations before so one can still find blondes and slavic looking women time to time along with lush tanned skin.

I would thank OP for bringing Turkey back on my radar. It's time for Napoleon to turn in to the Turkish Raider.

LMAO...

So you (allegedly) slept with bunch of Turkish girls and that somehow discredits my claim of Turkey having the fittest social culture in industrialized world?

Gosh, how old are you guys? 15? And we are supposed to believe that a nitwit like you, who can not even comprehend basic argument of the thread, is sleeping with 15 girls left and right?

Yeah....right.

Even if 10% Turkish girls were putting out---that'd still be MILLIONS of girls. So all the down syndrome kids here going on about their mythological exploits with Turkish chicks need to understand that this is a very bad line of reasoning.

READ my OP...it's talking about macro trends within the culture. It discusses how and why Turkey is the fittest social culture in high-income world. You have presented not a single counter argument to it...just childish reactions of yours that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

[Tyrion]

(01-19-2018 07:39 AM)hv123 Wrote:  

Turkey isn't a high income country

27k+ per capita PPP....high income according to IMF.

But it's okay. May be you dropped out of highschool and can't google.

Won't judge.

[NapoleonDynamighty]

Some say OP once attempted to emigrate to Israel as a gentile - thread-55651.html

[Biologist]

OP, for somebody who claims to not be Turkish, you really seem to defend the country a suspiciously high amount.

Anyway, in b4 the OP gets banned...

[Zerdame]

Tyrion...just visit Turkey.

I have no experience whatsoever with Turkish people or Turkish culture except buying a kebab from an overly enthusiastic seller in Roppongi.

Even so, I can tell you that no one is going to take your view on Turkey or her culture seriously unless you have at least been there.

Just buy a ticket, take a flight, stay for a week and update the thread.

At least if you're still hard-selling Turkey then, you can at least do it from a Starbucks in Instanbul.