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Apparently the Senate has reached a deal: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/11/gop-sen-...l-nbc.html

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Republican and Democrat members of Congress, including (L-R) Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MI) Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and others, join President Donald Trump for a meeting on immigration in the Cabinet Room at the White House January 9, 2018 in Washington, DC.
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Republican and Democrat members of Congress, including (L-R) Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MI) Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and others, join President Donald Trump for a meeting on immigration in the Cabinet Room at the White House January 9, 2018 in Washington, DC.
A bipartisan group of senators has struck a deal on legislation that would shield hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from deportation, Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., told reporters Thursday.

"We've got this bipartisan group, we're at a deal," the senator said, according to NBC News. "So we'll be talking to the White House about that and I hope we can move forward with it. It's the only game in town. There's no other bill."

Shortly after Flake's comments, a spokesman for Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said talks were still ongoing, according to Reuters. Durbin is a member of the bipartisan group and an early proponent of legislation to shield those immigrants.

It is unclear what a Senate bill would contain. It is also not clear whether a deal struck by the six senators in the working group would get support from the rest of the chamber, the White House or more conservative House.

Flake said he expects a bill to get released by the end of the week. However, he doubts it could get passed by Jan. 19, the deadline that Democrats have set as a target to pass an immigration plan as part of a deal to avoid a government shutdown.

Democrats' insistence on passing an immigration bill by the funding deadline has raised concerns about the possibility of a government shutdown. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said he wants to address DACA and keeping the government open in separate pieces of legislation.

Republicans have sought some form of funding for measures to curb illegal immigration as part of a deal. On Wednesday, President Donald Trump insisted on an agreement that includes funding for his proposed border wall, a day after he told bipartisan lawmakers he would sign whatever they passed.

Flake is part of a bipartisan group of senators seeking a legislative solution after Trump ended the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. If Congress cannot extend the protections for the young immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children, they could face deportation after the program starts to expire on March 5.

On Wednesday, several House Republicans released their own hardline immigration bill. The plan would aim to limit family-based or so-called chain migration, end the visa lottery system and beef up border security measures.

Democrats are unlikely to agree to some of those measures.

On Thursday, Flake said the physical structure Trump has called for does not need to be a "wall" but "more of a fence." He stressed the need for "surveillance" and "man power" in tandem with that.

DACA shielded nearly 800,000 young undocumented immigrants from deportation and allowed them to work legally in the U.S. Democrats and many Republicans in Congress supporting legislation enshrining those protections.

Some hardline supporters of Trump — who ran on a pledge to crack down on immigration — have criticized his talks about a bipartisan DACA solution.

The Trump administration recently set an $18 billion price tag over a decade for the border wall — a hefty bill even for many Republicans.

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#27

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^^Yes, and it's complete shit and a total victory for the democrats if this is what we end up with. Some details:

-DACA illegals get a pathway to citizenship
-Parents of DACA illegals get permanent residency
-They throw in a whole other amnesty as well, for the TPS "temporary refugees"!!

So, what did that cuck Flake the other senate cucks win for "our side" in exchange for not 1 but 2 amnesties?

-A "revamp" of the diversity visa lottery. Basically, instead of being assigned at random, some of the slots will now go specifically to Central Americans. Fucking wow.

-Smoke and mirrors language that "chain migration" will be modified. In reality, what they are talking about is simply that DACA illegals will be able to sponsor their parents but not other relatives like other categories of legal immigrants can. However, the chain migration system outside of the DACAs will not be touched! In other words, we gain absolutely nothing, because if we simply didn't strike a deal and let DACA expire the DACAs would have absolutely zero power to sponsor anyone. This "chain migration win" actually means that in addition to keeping the existing chain migration system exactly as it is, we are throwing the DACAs and their parents on top of the pile as well.

-But we get ~1 billion for "border security," so long as it's allocated to "technology" and "monitoring" and not an actual wall.
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This is so bad it's actually hilarious. It's a laser-perfect caricature of what a complete surrender/sellout looks like, if they took such a thing and said "that's not enough, let's take it and make it even funnier."
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Quote: (01-10-2018 09:53 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Quote: (01-10-2018 09:16 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  

Honestly Cobra, I don't want my city to look like India, Pakistan or Bangladesh. There are about 2 blillion people in those countries. Its their problem, not the USAs problem to deal with all those people. Their culture is nothing like that of the USA.

India can take 30 million ghetto blacks and the USA will take 30 million of the best Indians. That's a deal. Otherwise, GTFO.

This is why multiculturalism fails over time. Maintaining at least one dominant culture is of vital importance to the survival of any nation and its principles it was founded on. Otherwise things just become balkanized with these mini ethnic tribes all competing and screwing each other over.

Everyone promotes their own sub tribe to the detriment of the larger nation.

You can already see that happening in some cities where whites are no longer even in the picture but its mostly minorities screwing each other over. This tribalism simply expands and eventually consumes itself unless a clear dominant glue culture is around to hold things together. Guess what the dominant "glue" culture is in America?

This doesn't mean that other ethnicities can't theoretically assimilate over time but when large numbers flood in changing the culture then things go awry. This goes for Indians, Mexicans, Chinese, etc..

Immigration to the U.S. should be very strict because of this and other demographic concerns.

Let's think about this for a second. The point is that you guys don't want the USA to look like India. I don't either. So we can agree on that. I actually like India. I am from there and enjoy visiting. When in India, I also don't like to see western influences, for example, like girls slutting themselves out in the cities. It happens.

To clarify the context I'm trying to illustrate, there is no way in hell that eastern culture has influenced the west as much as western culture has influenced the east. The liberal, social media, beta, soy boy shit, comes out of the west, not India, not China, and not anywhere near there. Men over there are still expected to be men and women are expected to be women. Sure the infrastructure sucks, but I'm talking about culture, not infrastructure and economy.

As far as multiculturalism, yes if you bring people over and tell them that it's okay to do things exactly the way they are used to, of course it's going to turn out unfavorable. That's what the west does. It invites immigrants and tells them to not change. Then, the conservative crowd blames the immigrants for not changing when change is not encouraged. Look, I'm a fucking immigrant, tried and true. When I came here in 1990, there was enough flak I got from the white and black kids to cause me to change and become who I am. I tried really hard and still couldn't do it, possibly because I was a pussy. Then I joined the military and that made me more American than probably some of the whitest of the white rural farm boys. The only difference is that my skin is brown instead.

Immigration has been a pillar of this country and always has been. A lot of culture we actually enjoy in America is very "immigrant," whether it's Irish, Italian, Jewish or even German and Dutch. It is the integration of immigrants into becoming citizens that's actually in question. Over time, I would even say that I unknowingly have turned into a white boy because I know that is the norm. So why make people think that it shouldn't be the norm through social justice channels, guilt and white shaming. That's the real problem.

If you don't want the USA to look like India, Mexico or China, then you (and I) need to encourage other men to take a stand and integrate better. It may take time and it's not easy; but bitching about immigration policy and trying to restrict it just because you don't like a certain ethnicity or race is not going to solve the issue. There will always be essential skills that come from places like India. For example, in the IT field there is no damn way right now that certain skills can be found in the USA or homegrown just yet. Immigration is the source in filling this gap.

My point: People will always immigrate here but until they are held accountable for assimilating, they will transform this country rather than the country transforming them. The lack of accountability is a cultural flaw caused by an extreme case of liberal social justice war rather than multiculturalism, immigration or whatever else. I think this is a reasonable observation.

Gents, the real challenge that you have as predominantly white men in this society is the competition from men from other countries that truly assimilate well or are born to immigrant parents; and are raised with a solid conservative up bringing. Those guys will give you a run for your money. When they do, you're not going to be able to blame multiculturalism. That's like a black or brown person blaming racism for their lack of progress. Come on.
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Quote: (01-11-2018 08:17 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

To clarify the context I'm trying to illustrate, there is no way in hell that eastern culture has influenced the west as much as western culture has influenced the east. The liberal, social media, beta, soy boy shit, comes out of the west, not India, not China, and not anywhere near there. Men over there are still expected to be men and women are expected to be women. Sure the infrastructure sucks, but I'm talking about culture, not infrastructure and economy.

You're kidding, right?

Men there are some of the most sexually repressed men in the world. There even seems to be a rape epidemic.

Not to mention how the men act like Bollywood movies are real.

Soy boy shit is exactly what I would call men there. Too many of those types of immigrants would most definitely add to our soy problems.
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Quote: (01-11-2018 08:32 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 08:17 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

To clarify the context I'm trying to illustrate, there is no way in hell that eastern culture has influenced the west as much as western culture has influenced the east. The liberal, social media, beta, soy boy shit, comes out of the west, not India, not China, and not anywhere near there. Men over there are still expected to be men and women are expected to be women. Sure the infrastructure sucks, but I'm talking about culture, not infrastructure and economy.

You're kidding, right?

Men there are some of the most sexually repressed men in the world. There even seems to be a rape epidemic.

Not to mention how the men act like Bollywood movies are real.

Soy boy shit is exactly what I would call men there. Too many of those types of immigrants would most definitely add to our soy problems.

Nah based on the young white dudes I meet these days, I'd say you guys have the soy boy demo all sown up for yourselves. More immigrants will create more problems sure, but soy boyism isnt one of them. After all, the previous half-white president was our very first soy boy in chief.
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Quote: (01-11-2018 09:33 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Nah based on the young white dudes I meet these days, I'd say you guys have the soy boy demo all sown up for yourselves. More immigrants will create more problems sure, but soy boyism isnt one of them. After all, the previous half-white president was our very first soy boy in chief.

Our very own IRT, a legend onto himself, shows otherwise.

I've spent enough time in India and worked with plenty of Indian IT guys to know better.
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The above debate clearly demonstrates the split between ethno-nationalists and civic nationalists. Whether civic nationalism is enough to keep a nation together is the key question - can people of varying ethnicities eventually integrate into a single culture or do they split up into their heritage groups and/or continue to retain characteristics from their heritage country, simply due to human nature?
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Quote: (01-11-2018 09:43 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 09:33 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Nah based on the young white dudes I meet these days, I'd say you guys have the soy boy demo all sown up for yourselves. More immigrants will create more problems sure, but soy boyism isnt one of them. After all, the previous half-white president was our very first soy boy in chief.

Our very own IRT, a legend onto himself, shows otherwise.

I've spent enough time in India and worked with plenty of Indian IT guys to know better.

IRT is one guy. Have you met Cobra? Is he a soy boy? I have news for you, most white IT guys are soy boys too so that has more to do with your profession than Indians as a whole. Like anything its a mixed bag, some are and some aren't but you just want to blanketly say that all Indians are soy boys because it makes you feel better about the failures of your own people. Tell you what Worldwide, you have an open invitation to come and meet me and Cobra since you're so convinced every Indian dude is soft as Charmin.
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Quote: (01-11-2018 10:08 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 09:43 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 09:33 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Nah based on the young white dudes I meet these days, I'd say you guys have the soy boy demo all sown up for yourselves. More immigrants will create more problems sure, but soy boyism isnt one of them. After all, the previous half-white president was our very first soy boy in chief.

Our very own IRT, a legend onto himself, shows otherwise.

I've spent enough time in India and worked with plenty of Indian IT guys to know better.

IRT is one guy. Have you met Cobra? Is he a soy boy? I have news for you, most white IT guys are soy boys too so that has more to do with your profession than Indians as a whole. Like anything its a mixed bag, some are and some aren't but you just want to blanketly say that all Indians are soy boys because it makes you feel better about the failures of your own people. Tell you what Worldwide, you have an open invitation to come and meet me and Cobra since you're so convinced every Indian dude is soft as Charmin.

You got really defensive and started imagining things I never said.

I have noticed a lot of IRT thirst in guys while I was in India and guys I worked with. Not all of the guys I met in India were IT guys.

You had pack of guys walking up and down the beaches taking pictures of women in their bathing suits. They weren't even trying to hide it.

I have other similar stories that show that type of thirst is more common than not. In other words, our IRT wasn't an anomaly.

I didn't deny we had our own problems. I said we didn't need to import more troubles. On the other hand, you can't even be truthful when it comes to how many Indian dudes act thirsty.

Maybe you need to work on your inner game a little more?

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Tell you what Worldwide, you have an open invitation to come and meet me and Cobra since you're so convinced every Indian dude is soft as Charmin.

This is sounding a little like a threat. If it is, surely you don't need Cobra there to back you up. You're welcome to come to where I am any time mate. Shoot me a PM to set up a time. You can even bring Cobra.
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You really think I'm threatening you? Seriously? It was an invitation. To meet some fellow RVF members which it doesn't seem you've done much of based on your reps (If I'm wrong here, I stand corrected). It seems like your inner game is what needs work if you saw my invite as a threat. But sure, I'd be happy to have a beer with you if I'm in your neighborhood, wherever that may be. You can PM any details if you wish.

So sure, lots of Indian dudes are thirsty, I know that, so what? You think American dudes aren't? Why do you think so many of the 49er type chicks get lavished with attention that they don't deserve in this country. Look around the manosphere these days. Half the postings revolve around getting thirsty men to be able to sleep with subpar, shitty women. That's how the culture has gone and its gone this way worldwide now. America has exported it trash pop culture, excessive male thirst for pussy culture to the rest of the world. Hell just look at how pathetically thirsty guys in the media, Hollywood etc are behaving all in the name of trying to score some pussy. Look at how badly white men behave in places like the Phils and Thailand. Look if you want to think that America's problems are due to thirsty Indian guys then sure, hamster away but it doesn't change the fact that white dudes cucked themselves. Now am I advocating for more immigration from India and elsewhere? No of course not, the people living in those "shitholes" need to clean up their own messes. But white people in America have a whole bunch of problems to fix that aren't the fault of anyone but themselves.
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Quote: (01-11-2018 11:49 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You really think I'm threatening you? Seriously? It was an invitation. To meet some fellow RVF members which it doesn't seem you've done much of based on your reps (If I'm wrong here, I stand corrected). It seems like your inner game is what needs work if you saw my invite as a threat. But sure, I'd be happy to have a beer with you if I'm in your neighborhood, wherever that may be.

So sure, lots of Indian dudes are thirsty, I know that, so what? You think American dudes aren't? Why do you think so many of the 49er type chicks get lavished with attention that they don't deserve in this country. Look around the manosphere these days. Half the postings revolve around getting thirsty men to be able to sleep with subpar, shitty women. That's how the culture has gone and its gone this way worldwide now. America has exported it trash pop culture, excessive male thirst for pussy to the rest of the world. Hell just look at how pathetically thirsty guys in the media, Hollywood etc are behaving all in the name of trying to score some pussy. Look at how badly white men behave in places like the Phils and Thailand. Look if you want to think that America's problems are due to thirsty Indian guys then sure, hamster away but it doesn't change the fact that white dudes cucked themselves. Now am I advocating for more immigration from India and elsewhere? No of course not, the people living in those "shitholes" need to clean up their own messes. But white people in America have a whole bunch of problems to fix that aren't the fault of anyone but themselves.

You wanted to meet up to show me how much of a tough guy you are. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask if that was a threat.

The rest of your post is just more stuff you're imagining. I never said America's problems were due to thirsty Indians.

We do need to fix our problems. Bringing in more people who will make our problems worst is a bad way to fix them.
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Quote: (01-12-2018 12:01 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 11:49 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You really think I'm threatening you? Seriously? It was an invitation. To meet some fellow RVF members which it doesn't seem you've done much of based on your reps (If I'm wrong here, I stand corrected). It seems like your inner game is what needs work if you saw my invite as a threat. But sure, I'd be happy to have a beer with you if I'm in your neighborhood, wherever that may be.

So sure, lots of Indian dudes are thirsty, I know that, so what? You think American dudes aren't? Why do you think so many of the 49er type chicks get lavished with attention that they don't deserve in this country. Look around the manosphere these days. Half the postings revolve around getting thirsty men to be able to sleep with subpar, shitty women. That's how the culture has gone and its gone this way worldwide now. America has exported it trash pop culture, excessive male thirst for pussy to the rest of the world. Hell just look at how pathetically thirsty guys in the media, Hollywood etc are behaving all in the name of trying to score some pussy. Look at how badly white men behave in places like the Phils and Thailand. Look if you want to think that America's problems are due to thirsty Indian guys then sure, hamster away but it doesn't change the fact that white dudes cucked themselves. Now am I advocating for more immigration from India and elsewhere? No of course not, the people living in those "shitholes" need to clean up their own messes. But white people in America have a whole bunch of problems to fix that aren't the fault of anyone but themselves.

You wanted to meet up to show me how much of a tough guy you are. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask if that was a threat.

The rest of your post is just more stuff you're imagining. I never said America's problems were due to thirsty Indians.

We do need to fix our problems. Bringing in more people who will make our problems worst is a bad way to fix them.

Oh brother, dude you are the one imagining things here. You think every Indian is an IRT so I invited you to meet up. You got scared, thought I threatened you when I clearly wasn't. Hell I was even willing to buy a few rounds.

As to the rest of my post, it's pretty much spot on. A lot of you guys want to blame immigrants for all of America's problems and while I agree that importing people has not helped, the vast majority of America's issues are with the folks who are born and bred here.
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Quote: (01-12-2018 12:18 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2018 12:01 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 11:49 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You really think I'm threatening you? Seriously? It was an invitation. To meet some fellow RVF members which it doesn't seem you've done much of based on your reps (If I'm wrong here, I stand corrected). It seems like your inner game is what needs work if you saw my invite as a threat. But sure, I'd be happy to have a beer with you if I'm in your neighborhood, wherever that may be.

So sure, lots of Indian dudes are thirsty, I know that, so what? You think American dudes aren't? Why do you think so many of the 49er type chicks get lavished with attention that they don't deserve in this country. Look around the manosphere these days. Half the postings revolve around getting thirsty men to be able to sleep with subpar, shitty women. That's how the culture has gone and its gone this way worldwide now. America has exported it trash pop culture, excessive male thirst for pussy to the rest of the world. Hell just look at how pathetically thirsty guys in the media, Hollywood etc are behaving all in the name of trying to score some pussy. Look at how badly white men behave in places like the Phils and Thailand. Look if you want to think that America's problems are due to thirsty Indian guys then sure, hamster away but it doesn't change the fact that white dudes cucked themselves. Now am I advocating for more immigration from India and elsewhere? No of course not, the people living in those "shitholes" need to clean up their own messes. But white people in America have a whole bunch of problems to fix that aren't the fault of anyone but themselves.

You wanted to meet up to show me how much of a tough guy you are. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask if that was a threat.

The rest of your post is just more stuff you're imagining. I never said America's problems were due to thirsty Indians.

We do need to fix our problems. Bringing in more people who will make our problems worst is a bad way to fix them.

Oh brother, dude you are the one imagining things here. You think every Indian is an IRT so I invited you to meet up. You got scared, thought I threatened you when I clearly wasn't.

I already told you to shoot me a pm when you want to come into town and meet up.
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Quote: (01-12-2018 12:21 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2018 12:18 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2018 12:01 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 11:49 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

You really think I'm threatening you? Seriously? It was an invitation. To meet some fellow RVF members which it doesn't seem you've done much of based on your reps (If I'm wrong here, I stand corrected). It seems like your inner game is what needs work if you saw my invite as a threat. But sure, I'd be happy to have a beer with you if I'm in your neighborhood, wherever that may be.

So sure, lots of Indian dudes are thirsty, I know that, so what? You think American dudes aren't? Why do you think so many of the 49er type chicks get lavished with attention that they don't deserve in this country. Look around the manosphere these days. Half the postings revolve around getting thirsty men to be able to sleep with subpar, shitty women. That's how the culture has gone and its gone this way worldwide now. America has exported it trash pop culture, excessive male thirst for pussy to the rest of the world. Hell just look at how pathetically thirsty guys in the media, Hollywood etc are behaving all in the name of trying to score some pussy. Look at how badly white men behave in places like the Phils and Thailand. Look if you want to think that America's problems are due to thirsty Indian guys then sure, hamster away but it doesn't change the fact that white dudes cucked themselves. Now am I advocating for more immigration from India and elsewhere? No of course not, the people living in those "shitholes" need to clean up their own messes. But white people in America have a whole bunch of problems to fix that aren't the fault of anyone but themselves.

You wanted to meet up to show me how much of a tough guy you are. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask if that was a threat.

The rest of your post is just more stuff you're imagining. I never said America's problems were due to thirsty Indians.

We do need to fix our problems. Bringing in more people who will make our problems worst is a bad way to fix them.

Oh brother, dude you are the one imagining things here. You think every Indian is an IRT so I invited you to meet up. You got scared, thought I threatened you when I clearly wasn't.

I already told you to shoot me a pm when you want to come into town and meet up.

Ok done. Thread derailment finished.
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Fuck me I love that man.
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Quote: (01-11-2018 09:50 PM)Arado Wrote:  

The above debate clearly demonstrates the split between ethno-nationalists and civic nationalists. Whether civic nationalism is enough to keep a nation together is the key question - can people of varying ethnicities eventually integrate into a single culture or do they split up into their heritage groups and/or continue to retain characteristics from their heritage country, simply due to human nature?

Why would they, when half of all Westerners and virtually all of the news media perpetually portray national pride as racism and bigotry?

Whites, despite still being a majority, are falling back to the bulwark of ethnocentrism as a pure survival mechanism at this point.

No sane minority is going to look at the future and think "what I really need to do is attempt to dissolve my tribal bonds".

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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President Trump, framing democrats as threatening to shut down the government if a bunch of shitty illegals aren’t granted citizenship.

This man is a genuis.

I really doubt he thought the dimms would give him what he wanted and I bet when he set the expiration on DACA in March he likely knew it would happen (and Ivanka can’t be upset with him as a bonus).
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Quote: (01-11-2018 08:32 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2018 08:17 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

To clarify the context I'm trying to illustrate, there is no way in hell that eastern culture has influenced the west as much as western culture has influenced the east. The liberal, social media, beta, soy boy shit, comes out of the west, not India, not China, and not anywhere near there. Men over there are still expected to be men and women are expected to be women. Sure the infrastructure sucks, but I'm talking about culture, not infrastructure and economy.

You're kidding, right?

Men there are some of the most sexually repressed men in the world. There even seems to be a rape epidemic.

Not to mention how the men act like Bollywood movies are real.

Soy boy shit is exactly what I would call men there. Too many of those types of immigrants would most definitely add to our soy problems.

India has a huge problem with infanticide of female babies which explains the sexual problems you listed
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About 10 million female foetuses may have been aborted in India over the past two decades, according to research published online by The Lancet medical journal, today.

A team of scientists who analysed female fertility figures from a national survey of 6 million people in India found that there were about half a million fewer girls born in the country in 1997 than expected. Considering the figures, the number will reach 10 million in the next 20 years.

The scientists said that selective abortion of female foetuses is the most plausible explanation for the skewed sex ratio. "We conservatively estimate that prenatal sex determination and selective abortion account for 0.5 million missing girls yearly," said Dr Prabhat Jha, of the University of Toronto in Canada, who headed the research team.

"If this practice has been common for most of the past two decades since access to ultrasound become widespread, then a figure of 10 million missing female births would not be unreasonable," he added in a statement.

The shocking figures support estimates by the Indian Medical Association, which has said that five million female foetuses are killed in India each year.

The research found that the sex of the previous child was a determining factor in whether a female foetus was aborted. Fewer females are born as second and third children if the first child in a family is a girl. It said lack of girls as a second or third child is more pronounced in educated, rather than illiterate, women.

In a commentary on the report, Prof Shirish Sheth, of Breach Candy Hospital in Mumbai, said: "To have a daughter is socially and emotionally accepted if there is a son, but a daughter's arrival is often unwelcome if the couple already have a daughter." He said there is published evidence of rampant female feticide in India where daughters are regarded as a liability. "Female infanticide of the past is refined and honed to a fine skill in this modern guise," Sheth added.

Co-author of the report, Dr Rajesh Kumar, of the School of Public Health in Chandigarh, said missing females is a growing problem. "Our study emphasises the need for routine, reliable and long-term measurement of births and deaths," Kumar added.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/fema...YbAzL.html
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"The Democrats would rather amnesty illegal aliens than pay our military"

Movies will be made.
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I don't know why you're are all against immigrants. What Americans don't realize is that we need these Mexican immigrants. Who is going to pick our strawberries?
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Quote: (01-12-2018 01:14 PM)Pancho Wrote:  

I don't know why you're are all against immigrants. What Americans don't realize is that we need these Mexican immigrants. Who is going to pick our strawberries?

President Trump addressed that when he said there would be a "big, beautiful door" on the "big, beautiful wall." There will be a guest worker program for agriculture and some other industries which can't get adequate labor from the domestic workforce.
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Quote: (01-12-2018 01:14 PM)Pancho Wrote:  

I don't know why you're are all against immigrants. What Americans don't realize is that we need these Mexican immigrants. Who is going to pick our strawberries?

What a stupid comment.

Do you know the difference between legal and illegal immigrant?

Can your tiny brain imagine any other possible way to get workers to pick your precious strawberries besides allowing millions of future democrat voters soaking up God knows how much welfare and all while dumbing down classes in schools and shutting down hospitals that are forced to give them healthcare and pay for them to shit out more babies to cross the border so the can then send billions of dollars a year from pur economy back to shit hole Mexico?

Because I can think of a far better system that doesn’t fuck over legal immigrants and citizens and your produce will still get picked.
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#49

DACA negotiations thread

Quote: (01-12-2018 01:22 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2018 01:14 PM)Pancho Wrote:  

I don't know why you're are all against immigrants. What Americans don't realize is that we need these Mexican immigrants. Who is going to pick our strawberries?

President Trump addressed that when he said there would be a "big, beautiful door" on the "big, beautiful wall." There will be a guest worker program for agriculture and some other industries which can't get adequate labor from the domestic workforce.

Which is a bullshit argument anyway that these people do the jobs Americans don't want to do. Yeah, try and pay me minimum wage to slave around picking strawberries all day. Maybe they'd get Americans to do it if they offered a decent wage.
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#50

DACA negotiations thread

Quote: (01-12-2018 01:14 PM)Pancho Wrote:  

I don't know why you're are all against immigrants. What Americans don't realize is that we need these Mexican immigrants. Who is going to pick our strawberries?

Sorry, we don't need slaves in America. Our rich have more than enough to pay higher wages.

We're going to reduce the labor pool, or the men here will go GALT and watch this shithole burn to the ground.

Immigrants should fix their own shithole countries.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — In bluntly vulgar language, President Donald Trump questioned Thursday why the U.S. would accept more immigrants from Haiti and "shithole countries" in Africa rather than places like Norway, as he rejected a bipartisan immigration deal, according to people briefed on the extraordinary Oval Office conversation.

Trump's contemptuous description of an entire continent startled lawmakers in the meeting and immediately revived charges that the president is racist. The White House did not deny his remark but issued a statement saying Trump supports immigration policies that welcome "those who can contribute to our society."

Best President ever.

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