[Sumanguru]

(12-20-2017 03:12 AM)Number one bummer Wrote:  

After further review this whole thing is a clusterfuck. BLM is supporting the bill because stop and go's are harmful to inner city neighborhoods. The dems supported the bill fully and the opposition came from republicans.

To be honest most of these stores are in fact, big net negative on communities, a lot are just fronts for crime with welfare scamming leading the charge. The stores launder food stamp money in exchange for cigs, drugs and booze. They then cook the books to show they are selling food which they then sell at a much larger profit margin.

BLM is right for wanting to shut down these stores but again they have the wrong solution, the solution is building a community where these stores don't thrive by making cultural changes. Of course BLM just wants big government to harm the stores by removing their right to self-defense.

I can confirm all the above. Being from a shitty American city, I've seen plenty of decent corner stores (that's what we call the small stores that sell cigarettes, snacks, booze, etc.) run by honest Asian-Americans...and there were plenty that were just fronts for various illegal activities. Those activities ranged from food stamp fraud to drug selling.

If you're going to call it out, call it out. Pass a law saying any business owner caught doing that shit on his property gets their business permit revoked.

See below for more.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/philadelphia-...e-measure/

Quote:

(Cindy) Bass, who represents the 8th Councilmanic District, had been the target of much criticism when shopkeepers – primarily Asian Americans – pushed back against the measure that she said came after years of research.

She said that much disinformation had been spread to undercut her argument and rallied against “unacceptable business practices that have been going on for far too long.”

“Owners of ‘stop and gos’ are now calling themselves ‘beer delis,’ which is laughable,” she said. “You can’t get a pastrami on rye at any of these places.”

What you can get, she said, are beer, shots, “cold medicine that can be converted” into drugs, crack pipes and fruit-flavored cigarillos in neighborhoods where “self-medication happens frequently.”

She likened stop and go's to “indoor open-air drug markets masquerading as restaurants.”

“How can anybody defend this?” she asked. “If they were selling hypodermic needles to heroin users, there would be an immediate call to shut them down. Let’s just admit it: It’s a different kind of addict so it’s a different kind of response.

“I’ve never heard so many people defending the continuance of addiction under the guise of ‘safety first.’ You’ve been had.”

She also chided the Asian American Licensed Beverage Association of Philadelphia for not living up to the terms of an agreement from December 2004 in which they agreed to hire security guards for protection, and to stop selling drug paraphernalia, at such establishments in high-crime areas.

“How much of this have you done? Some of it? Any of it?” she asked, noting that such businesses have “blood on your hands” for enabling the cycle of addiction. “I think I have the answer: None of it, because you found out you didn’t legally have to.”

Uh, then why don't you pass *that* law? Like Number One Bummer said, go after what you're aiming for. Be specific and direct. Make the paraphernalia illegal, or do regular inspections for food stamp fraud and then punish those who commit it. Doing so avoids punishing innocent people--legit stores in dangerous neighborhoods where bulletproof glass is a vital safety measure--AND avoids public relations nightmares of headlines saying you're blocking blatant necessities for some businesses (bulletproof glass).

[godfather dust]

Higgs Bosun I don't know that Asians vote hard Democrat (someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Leonard D Neubache]

I saw this a few days ago and at first I wanted to point it out but suddenly I was overcome with a wave of...



Quickly, white America! Burn your human and political capital protecting the asians from the blacks.

OR...

[Kona]

I was just thinking how some places probably have insurance requirements about the glass.

These Asians need to make friends with Big Glass (if there is Big Glass maybe corning or Anderson?) and get some corporate money to fight this.

Or maybe Amazon could use the ghetto to start selling beers via drone? Just make the drone self destruct or shut down if it's off course.

I got lotsa ideas.

Aloha!

[godzilla]

Philly is not your typical diehard lib city like NYC and Cali. Theres a big city/rural divide there that keeps a lot of very moderate liberal people from voting right. The Republican party will just fuck them if they don't.

[iop890]

(12-20-2017 07:37 PM)Kona Wrote:  

These Asians need to make friends with Big Glass (if there is Big Glass...

Not really. Aside from super specialized stuff(so maybe bulletproof glass, but I sort of doubt it) it's all made in CHYNA now. My company still has "glass" in the name but we totally got out of it a few years back.

This is obviously 4D chess from Trump. Give our glass jobs back, CHYNA, or the riceballs get it.

I'm still allowed to say riceballs, right Roosh?

[CJ_W]

(12-20-2017 01:41 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

This will not end well.....the law not the the thread. Maybe the thread too, we will see.....

It COULD end well, it could end those store front liquor stores as the owners will use their saved money(hopefully) and invest it into other assets, like real estate. Or course, not in Philly though.

So yes, less storefront stores = less money flowing in those communities. . . less business in those communities. hmm. . .

well, SOMETHING will happen. Although I dont think the storefront owners will hurt much. . .if they are smart and sell/get out now(and saved enough for that).

[Higgs Bosun]

(12-20-2017 05:40 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Higgs Bosun I don't know that Asians vote hard Democrat (someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

Oh, they do. In fact, the Asian-American category as a whole leans as heavily democrat as Hispanics. But when we are talking about Kwik-E-Mart owners in ghetto Philly I would guess, at least going by what I have seen across other parts of the US, that what we're really discussing are Indians and Pakis. That category swings left by a solid 85% margin, second only to blacks and not far behind them at that.

But it's actually worse than that. In the case of blacks and hispanics, I can at least slightly forgive them for their leftism because to some extent it can be justified by a completely logical and benign desire to get more gibs. If you're a demographic that feeds at the trough of government largesse then voting for the party that promises to keep the trough full is a move that requires no insidious intent. Of course Hispanics and particularly blacks vote for the left in large part due to anti-white animus, but if you're feeling high-minded you can at least try to convince yourself that it's x part gibs and only y part anti-white sentiment.

South Asians? Thanks to extremely selected migration patterns they're the highest earning racial group in the USA. They're also quite traditional minded and family oriented, more so even than your average Evangelicuck Christian. Yet they vote for the party of high taxes, affirmative action, and cultural degeneracy at nearly black levels, despite being on the wrong end of the resulting policies and being smart enough to realize it. The reason for this is because the recognize that the left is a vehicle for stripping power away from the white majority, and they consider this as a long term objective worthy of the medium term costs. What other possible expanation can there be for the country's richest ethnic group to vote in the same pattern as ghetto dwelling blacks aside from a shared desire to disenfranchise the majority population? Steve Sailer coined the phrase "Coalition of the Fringes" and it perfectly encapsulates why Indian doctors making 400k a year vote similarly to welfare queens on the South Side of Chicago.

In other words, fuck them. If they want to play coalition of the fringes, let them enjoy the circular firing squad of diversity as well. I certainly wouldn't want to have the white man's racist bulletproof glass interfere.

[ColSpanker]

Something similar happened in St. Louis when I lived there in the late 80's. There was a huge movement for stores to quit selling package booze in the Hood. The local stores began to restrict the flow of hard liquor.
However, St. Louis was/is surrounded by a semi-circle of middle-class suburbs.
Guess what happened? Bums began to take the buses or just walked over to the stores in the 'burbs where the booze was sold off the shelf. Unprotected. There were countless stories of winos who were apprehended downing malt liquor in the suburban stores.
The campaign came to a sudden halt. Don't know how that happened; I'm guessing some greenbacks slipped to the local city politicians.
I predict the same thing will happen in the city of Brotherly Love when the Asian stores began to close. I'll bet the store owners outside the Philly neighborhoods about to be affected have steel gates on order.

[puckerman]

This reminds me of what is wrong with government. It's a safe bet that this stupid bitch Cindy Bass has NEVER owned a business in her life. Now she is telling others how to run their businesses.

How much do you want to bet that she plays the race card the next time someone runs against her?

African Americans were sold out by their alleged leaders a long, long time ago. There are lots of charlatans--many of them female--like Cindy Bass in city government. They get votes just because they are African American. Then they sell out the people who vote for them.

[infowarrior1]

(12-20-2017 11:38 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 05:40 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Higgs Bosun I don't know that Asians vote hard Democrat (someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

Oh, they do. In fact, the Asian-American category as a whole leans as heavily democrat as Hispanics. But when we are talking about Kwik-E-Mart owners in ghetto Philly I would guess, at least going by what I have seen across other parts of the US, that what we're really discussing are Indians and Pakis. That category swings left by a solid 85% margin, second only to blacks and not far behind them at that.

But it's actually worse than that. In the case of blacks and hispanics, I can at least slightly forgive them for their leftism because to some extent it can be justified by a completely logical and benign desire to get more gibs. If you're a demographic that feeds at the trough of government largesse then voting for the party that promises to keep the trough full is a move that requires no insidious intent. Of course Hispanics and particularly blacks vote for the left in large part due to anti-white animus, but if you're feeling high-minded you can at least try to convince yourself that it's x part gibs and only y part anti-white sentiment.

South Asians? Thanks to extremely selected migration patterns they're the highest earning racial group in the USA. They're also quite traditional minded and family oriented, more so even than your average Evangelicuck Christian. Yet they vote for the party of high taxes, affirmative action, and cultural degeneracy at nearly black levels, despite being on the wrong end of the resulting policies and being smart enough to realize it. The reason for this is because the recognize that the left is a vehicle for stripping power away from the white majority, and they consider this as a long term objective worthy of the medium term costs. What other possible expanation can there be for the country's richest ethnic group to vote in the same pattern as ghetto dwelling blacks aside from a shared desire to disenfranchise the majority population? Steve Sailer coined the phrase "Coalition of the Fringes" and it perfectly encapsulates why Indian doctors making 400k a year vote similarly to welfare queens on the South Side of Chicago.

In other words, fuck them. If they want to play coalition of the fringes, let them enjoy the circular firing squad of diversity as well. I certainly wouldn't want to have the white man's racist bulletproof glass interfere.

Perhaps a few of them dying may flip some of them republican. If not nothing of value is lost.

[Foolsgo1d]

(12-20-2017 11:48 PM)ColSpanker Wrote:  

Something similar happened in St. Louis when I lived there in the late 80's. There was a huge movement for stores to quit selling package booze in the Hood. The local stores began to restrict the flow of hard liquor.
However, St. Louis was/is surrounded by a semi-circle of middle-class suburbs.
Guess what happened? Bums began to take the buses or just walked over to the stores in the 'burbs where the booze was sold off the shelf. Unprotected. There were countless stories of winos who were apprehended downing malt liquor in the suburban stores.
The campaign came to a sudden halt. Don't know how that happened; I'm guessing some greenbacks slipped to the local city politicians.
I predict the same thing will happen in the city of Brotherly Love when the Asian stores began to close. I'll bet the store owners outside the Philly neighborhoods about to be affected have steel gates on order.

This will happen. Can't wait to see the crime statistics afterwards and the reason why it happened.

[Constitution45]

I was thinking about this recently.

We have high crime rates in the U.K despite our murder rate being very low. However it is safe to say that a lot of areas now are simply lost. Unlike in Sweden and Germany, English ghettos formed back in the 1980s during the race riots. Over time these became solidified during the new labour years, although there was some back and forth with gentrification forming. But this was compensated as provincial towns suburbs started going down hill rapidly, and now they are the new Brixtons and Tottenhams.

The effect of having such areas and criminal sub cultures is very potent. They create a massive drain on law enforcement, hospital, educational services, which in turn leads to demoralisation and bankrupting of the state.

You speak to anybody who works in these services and they will tell you straight up that it is due to the lack of responsibility permeating through the country. I sympathise with the argument that it is due to budget cuts. Although realistically even with a healthy budget, this would eventually be exhausted at some point. Because you can't help people who do not want to help themselves.

[WalterBlack]

(12-20-2017 11:38 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

South Asians? Thanks to extremely selected migration patterns they're the highest earning racial group in the USA. They're also quite traditional minded and family oriented, more so even than your average Evangelicuck Christian. Yet they vote for the party of high taxes, affirmative action, and cultural degeneracy at nearly black levels, despite being on the wrong end of the resulting policies and being smart enough to realize it. The reason for this is because the recognize that the left is a vehicle for stripping power away from the white majority, and they consider this as a long term objective worthy of the medium term costs. What other possible expanation can there be for the country's richest ethnic group to vote in the same pattern as ghetto dwelling blacks aside from a shared desire to disenfranchise the majority population? Steve Sailer coined the phrase "Coalition of the Fringes" and it perfectly encapsulates why Indian doctors making 400k a year vote similarly to welfare queens on the South Side of Chicago.

In other words, fuck them. If they want to play coalition of the fringes, let them enjoy the circular firing squad of diversity as well. I certainly wouldn't want to have the white man's racist bulletproof glass interfere.

Why are you putting all South Asians under the same umbrella? The guys who run the convenience stores are not the same as the democrat supporting H1-B engineering/IT/medical nerds. The rich Indian's kids are spoiled bitches and they are the super democrats. Life is too easy for the co-opt other group's causes like being anti-gun, BLM and LGBT rights.

The convenience store guys are just trying to make a living. They don't give a fuck about liberal shit and are more likely to have a gun behind the counter.

In general Indians don't hate white people and wish to see them lose power - they actually respect them. A lot of Indians direct their racism to other Indians, black people and/or Hispanics.

A lot of my Indian American relatives are very blue collar, they like to drink, fuck around, do drugs, fly the American flag and love shooting.

Indians actually share a lot of traditional Republican values like being self sufficient and not relying on the government. The problem is is that the Republicans emphasise shit like abortion and sucking Israel's dick, which many Indians are indifferent to. Also, the Republican party counts on the support of Evangelical Christians, who are very anti-Hindu, why would an Indian support them?

I work right now with an Indian-American guy who's family is very wealthy, and he lives in a very wealthy area. He's a super liberal and he thinks most Muslims are peaceful. The worst thing is that this guy's background Sindhi and he told me he can't find Sindh on map. I told this clown that his ancestors were forced to leave what is now Pakistan because the Muslims were forcing Hindus to convert. He still doesn't get it.

I can't stand the average Indian-American - I posted my thought in this RVF thread

If the Republican party dropped the religious crap and focused primarily on fiscal policy they would get a lot more Indians voting for them. In the UK a lot of Indians would vote for the left wing labour party because of perceived racism from the conservative party. Nowadays a lot them vote conservative, because the labour party is too busy trying to kiss the arse of Muslims.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(12-20-2017 07:37 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I was just thinking how some places probably have insurance requirements about the glass.

These Asians need to make friends with Big Glass (if there is Big Glass maybe corning or Anderson?) and get some corporate money to fight this.

Or maybe Amazon could use the ghetto to start selling beers via drone? Just make the drone self destruct or shut down if it's off course.

I got lotsa ideas.

Aloha!

The drones would have to be accompanied by combat drones for their safety.

As for the proposal - this is pure SOCIAL JUSTICE BULLSHIT. It comes from the notion that everything everywhere is equal. So of course it's racist to have security glass in stores which are for some strange reason robbed 20 times a year.
By that same logic it would be racist for American soldiers to wear weapons in Iraq. Because that would be Islamophobic and racist. They should be as little armed as taking a stroll around a base in Eastern Germany or Japan.

[MajorStyles]

Bullet-proof glass is racist. Only an SJW could get a high-five for that comment.

This will backfire (pardon the pun). I know Philadelphia very well and have visited the city every year for the past four decades. This will cause business owners to flee the poor neighborhoods like North Phily. And these ghettos will sink even further into a financial abyss - if that's possible. We can expect to see a rise in crime, tattooed hookers, and drug use. And of course, the accusatory finger pointing. It's too bad for the individuals there who seek a better life. But the "crabs in a bucket" theory is very real.

People in the wealthy spots (like Bryn Mawr and Malvern) will continue on as normal, sending their kids to private schools and drinking fine wine. On a positive note, the law should help to boost Republican votes in the state of Pennsylvania.

[El Chinito loco]

(12-20-2017 05:44 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  

If thats what BLM want, great, close every store in the ghetto. Let black people open up their own stores and deal with their own shit.

This has been discussed at length by Thomas Sowell.

Yep I think it would be entirely appropriate to let these neighborhoods police themselves too and make their own local tax laws to fund these "community" efforts. If they want to drive out the non ghettofied population then so be it.

If they want to go the route of complete segregation into a liberal wonderland just like south Chicago then so be it.

However, make it impossible for them to leech off state or federal funds. If they want to accelerate their own demise then they can do it on their own dime.